Poll of the Day > John Boyega (Star Wars Finn) 'non-white actors 'pushed to the side' by Disney.'

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ForteEXE3850 09/03/20 1:26:57 PM #1:	https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54009780 "What I would say to Disney is do not bring out a black character, market them to be much more important in the franchise than they are and then have them pushed to the side," he told GQ. "It's not good. I'll say it straight up." --- Mwahahahaha. <cite>ForteEXE3850 posted [p:944162263] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54009780 "What I would say to Disney is do not bring out a black character, market them to be much more important in the franchise than they are and then have them pushed to the side," he told GQ. "It's not good. I'll say it straight up."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blu 09/03/20 1:28:21 PM #2:	He's waiting to now to say something. <cite>blu posted [p:944162330] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>He's waiting to now to say something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 09/03/20 1:34:48 PM #3:	Ironic, considering how many accused Disney of going "SJW." But placing this on some sort of subtle racism by Disney is silly. Virtually everyone agree's Finn's character STARTED as interesting/had promise. But then Rian Johnson absolutely ruined his character, as he ruined everything in TLJ. There wasn't a lot left to salvage by the time RoS came out. So, he can join the club. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:944162608] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Ironic, considering how many accused Disney of going "SJW." But placing this on some sort of subtle racism by Disney is silly. Virtually everyone agree's Finn's character STARTED as interesting/had promise. But then Rian Johnson absolutely ruined his character, as he ruined everything in TLJ. There wasn't a lot left to salvage by the time RoS came out. So, he can join the club. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
aHappySacka 09/03/20 1:37:11 PM #4:	They can't make minority characters important or else it will offend the Chinese market. --- You are now blinking and breathing manually. https://imgur.com/91NC0Cb <cite>aHappySacka posted [p:944162708] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>They can't make minority characters important or else it will offend the Chinese market. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 09/03/20 1:38:09 PM #5:	This dude might be the biggest victim in Hollywood. --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:944162741] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>This dude might be the biggest victim in Hollywood. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veemon_X 09/03/20 1:50:27 PM #6:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... Ironic, considering how many accused Disney of going "SJW." But placing this on some sort of subtle racism by Disney is silly. Virtually everyone agree's Finn's character STARTED as interesting/had promise. But then Rian Johnson absolutely ruined his character, as he ruined everything in TLJ. There wasn't a lot left to salvage by the time RoS came out. So, he can join the club. I wonder if his most notable role will remain an underutilized Star Wars character. --- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/darwins-subterranean-world /201902/why-are-there-so-many-jerks-in-the-world <cite>Veemon_X posted [p:944163300] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>Ironic, considering how many accused Disney of going "SJW." But placing this on some sort of subtle racism by Disney is silly. Virtually everyone agree's Finn's character STARTED as interesting/had promise. But then Rian Johnson absolutely ruined his character, as he ruined everything in TLJ. There wasn't a lot left to salvage by the time RoS came out. So, he can join the club.</quote> I wonder if his most notable role will remain an underutilized Star Wars character. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 09/03/20 1:53:39 PM #7:	He was only there to appeal to sjws in the 1st place, he should probably look up what token characters are --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:944163429] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>He was only there to appeal to sjws in the 1st place, he should probably look up what token characters are </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/03/20 2:03:58 PM #8:	aHappySacka posted... They can't make minority characters important or else it will offend the Chinese market. Came in to specifically say this. People have pointed out in the past that Disney's entire mindset has always been "Progressive - but not too progressive", because at the end of the day they don't give a single shit about social issues as much as they do selling tickets, merch, and theme park admissions. They push what they think will sell, no more, no less. The Chinese hate black people, and they hated Finn as a character. Most of Hollywood has spent the last 10 years pandering more and more to the Chinese market because there is SO MUCH money to be made there. The math is pretty damned easy to do. That being said... CyborgSage00x0 posted... Virtually everyone agrees Finn's character STARTED as interesting/had promise. But then Rian Johnson absolutely ruined his character, as he ruined everything in TLJ. There wasn't a lot left to salvage by the time RoS came out. I'd also agree with this. Rian Johnson burned that entire fucking house down. I'd almost be willing to assume that maybe Disney said something to Rian Johnson about minimizing Finn's role to appease the Chinese market, but Johnson DID give him a pretty big presence in the movie. It just happens to be in a terrible side-plot that prety much everyone hates. Though ironically, the sheer superfluous nature of pretty much the entirety of the Finn/Rose storyline (there is literally no point to anything they do and they accomplish absolutely nothing of value or substance whatsoever- their entire storyline is just time-killing filler) means it could have been easily sliced out of the film, and replaced with something else. So maybe Disney should have cut their parts out of the film entirely, then replaced them with extra scenes filmed entirely for the Chinese audience with Chinese actors (like they did with some MCU stuff). If they'd done that, the film might not have tanked catastrophically hard in China (which it did), and the end result might have made for a better film in general (though Finn/Rose is far from the only problem with that movie). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:944163880] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote><cite>aHappySacka posted...</cite> <quote>They can't make minority characters important or else it will offend the Chinese market.</quote> Came in to specifically say this. People have pointed out in the past that Disney's entire mindset has always been "Progressive - but not too progressive", because at the end of the day they don't give a single shit about social issues as much as they do selling tickets, merch, and theme park admissions. They push what they think will sell, no more, no less. The Chinese hate black people, and they hated Finn as a character. Most of Hollywood has spent the last 10 years pandering more and more to the Chinese market because there is SO MUCH money to be made there. The math is pretty damned easy to do. That being said... <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>Virtually everyone agrees Finn's character STARTED as interesting/had promise. But then Rian Johnson absolutely ruined his character, as he ruined everything in TLJ. There wasn't a lot left to salvage by the time RoS came out.</quote> I'd also agree with this. Rian Johnson burned that entire fucking house down. I'd almost be willing to assume that maybe Disney said something to Rian Johnson about minimizing Finn's role to appease the Chinese market, but Johnson DID give him a pretty big presence in the movie. It just happens to be in a terrible side-plot that prety much everyone hates. Though ironically, the sheer superfluous nature of pretty much the entirety of the Finn/Rose storyline (there is literally no point to anything they do and they accomplish absolutely nothing of value or substance whatsoever- their entire storyline is just time-killing filler) means it could have been easily sliced out of the film, and replaced with something else. So maybe Disney should have cut their parts out of the film entirely, then replaced them with extra scenes filmed entirely for the Chinese audience with Chinese actors (like they did with some MCU stuff). If they'd done that, the film might not have tanked catastrophically hard in China (which it did), and the end result might have made for a better film in general (though Finn/Rose is far from the only problem with that movie).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Archgoat 09/03/20 2:14:09 PM #9:	I feel like I am the only one that thinks that The Last Jedi is best of film of the 3. I agree that some of the story choices were questionable, but as an entertaining film and the set pieces, I enjoyed it more than the other 2. Overall the trilogy as a whole was pretty bad though. <cite>Archgoat posted [p:944164329] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>I feel like I am the only one that thinks that The Last Jedi is best of film of the 3. I agree that some of the story choices were questionable, but as an entertaining film and the set pieces, I enjoyed it more than the other 2. Overall the trilogy as a whole was pretty bad though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 09/03/20 2:29:35 PM #11:	Of course, they didn't want part 8 and 9 to be any good --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:944165019] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Of course, they didn't want part 8 and 9 to be any good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 09/03/20 2:33:31 PM #12:	Muscles posted... He was only there to appeal to sjws in the 1st place, he should probably look up what token characters are people like you literally think any character who isn't white is there to 'appeal to sjw's', ok? people like you say it about comics, movies and especially games. it gets tiring. please just shut the fuck up already, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:944165224] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>He was only there to appeal to sjws in the 1st place, he should probably look up what token characters are</quote>people like you literally think any character who isn't white is there to 'appeal to sjw's', ok? people like you say it about comics, movies and especially games. it gets tiring. please just shut the fuck up already, ok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 09/03/20 2:43:37 PM #13:	Aculo posted... people like you literally think any character who isn't white is there to 'appeal to sjw's', ok? people like you say it about comics, movies and especially games. it gets tiring. please just shut the fuck up already, ok? Uhh I think you have me confused for someone else, I generally don't go around saying every minority is a token role, just a few times where they are, such as this time --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:944165713] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Aculo posted... </cite> <quote>people like you literally think any character who isn't white is there to 'appeal to sjw's', ok? people like you say it about comics, movies and especially games. it gets tiring. please just shut the fuck up already, ok?</quote>Uhh I think you have me confused for someone else, I generally don't go around saying every minority is a token role, just a few times where they are, such as this time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 09/03/20 2:47:27 PM #14:	Muscles posted... Uhh I think you have me confused for someone else, I generally don't go around saying every minority is a token role, just a few times where they are, such as this time you're the guy who posts basic ass posts all the time. i know exactly who you are, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:944165896] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Uhh I think you have me confused for someone else, I generally don't go around saying every minority is a token role, just a few times where they are, such as this time</quote>you're the guy who posts basic ass posts all the time. i know exactly who you are, ok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 09/03/20 2:48:36 PM #15:	Then when is the last time I accused someone of just being a token character? --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:944165942] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Then when is the last time I accused someone of just being a token character? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/03/20 2:48:56 PM #16:	It sucks because in the force awakens his character was actually pretty cool and interesting, and the guy is a good and charismatic actor its not like they reduced his characters importance and complexity and it somehow improved subsequent films either --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:944165960] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>It sucks because in the force awakens his character was actually pretty cool and interesting, and the guy is a good and charismatic actor its not like they reduced his characters importance and complexity and it somehow improved subsequent films either </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/03/20 2:54:12 PM #17:	How about instead Disney not make SW movies if they're going to sideline the characters people actually care about and create some new ones that people hate? ParanoidObsessive posted... The Chinese hate black people, and they hated Finn as a character. Most of Hollywood has spent the last 10 years pandering more and more to the Chinese market because there is SO MUCH money to be made there. The math is pretty damned easy to do. Most people hated Finn as a character. He was a lousy character. Although, to be fair, he was also played by a lousy actor. (And if they really wanted to go for diversity -- and totally piss off the Chinese market -- they could have shipped Finn with Poe, which is what it almost felt like they were building to at times.) ParanoidObsessive posted... Though ironically, the sheer superfluous nature of pretty much the entirety of the Finn/Rose storyline (there is literally no point to anything they do and they accomplish absolutely nothing of value or substance whatsoever- their entire storyline is just time-killing filler) means it could have been easily sliced out of the film, and replaced with something else. So maybe Disney should have cut their parts out of the film entirely, then replaced them with extra scenes filmed entirely for the Chinese audience with Chinese actors (like they did with some MCU stuff). If they'd done that, the film might not have tanked catastrophically hard in China (which it did), and the end result might have made for a better film in general (though Finn/Rose is far from the only problem with that movie). It would have been a much better movie without it. Archgoat posted... I feel like I am the only one that thinks that The Last Jedi is best of film of the 3. I agree that some of the story choices were questionable, but as an entertaining film and the set pieces, I enjoyed it more than the other 2. Overall the trilogy as a whole was pretty bad though. Only seen TFA and TLJ so far (the last movie wasn't on D+ for whatever reason every time I had previously checked), but TLJ was worlds better than the soulless, focus-grouped TFA. blu posted... He's waiting to now to say something. Because he was worried about how it might impact him when he still had a career there. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:944166206] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>How about instead Disney not make SW movies if they're going to sideline the characters people actually care about and create some new ones that people hate? ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>The Chinese hate black people, and they hated Finn as a character. Most of Hollywood has spent the last 10 years pandering more and more to the Chinese market because there is SO MUCH money to be made there. The math is pretty damned easy to do.</quote> Most people hated Finn as a character. He was a lousy character. Although, to be fair, he was also played by a lousy actor. (And if they really wanted to go for diversity -- and totally piss off the Chinese market -- they could have shipped Finn with Poe, which is what it almost felt like they were building to at times.) ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>Though ironically, the sheer superfluous nature of pretty much the entirety of the Finn/Rose storyline (there is literally no point to anything they do and they accomplish absolutely nothing of value or substance whatsoever- their entire storyline is just time-killing filler) means it could have been easily sliced out of the film, and replaced with something else. So maybe Disney should have cut their parts out of the film entirely, then replaced them with extra scenes filmed entirely for the Chinese audience with Chinese actors (like they did with some MCU stuff). If they'd done that, the film might not have tanked catastrophically hard in China (which it did), and the end result might have made for a better film in general (though Finn/Rose is far from the only problem with that movie).</quote> It would have been a much better movie without it. Archgoat posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like I am the only one that thinks that The Last Jedi is best of film of the 3. I agree that some of the story choices were questionable, but as an entertaining film and the set pieces, I enjoyed it more than the other 2. Overall the trilogy as a whole was pretty bad though.</quote> Only seen TFA and TLJ so far (the last movie wasn't on D+ for whatever reason every time I had previously checked), but TLJ was worlds better than the soulless, focus-grouped TFA. blu posted... </cite> <quote>He's waiting to now to say something.</quote> Because he was worried about how it might impact him when he still had a career there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 09/03/20 3:53:15 PM #18:	Its like he doesnt want to have a job. --- I promise that if the game stinks I will make a topic about how I hate it and you can all laugh at me - Mead on Fallout 76 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:944168776] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Its like he doesnt want to have a job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/03/20 4:21:39 PM #19:	Smarkil posted... Its like he doesnt want to have a job. I mean after they handled his character, fuck any studios that wouldnt want to work with him just because he was honest when interviewed --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:944170029] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Smarkil posted... </cite> <quote>Its like he doesnt want to have a job.</quote> I mean after they handled his character, fuck any studios that wouldnt want to work with him just because he was honest when interviewed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 09/03/20 4:35:16 PM #20:	aHappySacka posted... They can't make minority characters important or else it will offend the Chinese market. This. Finn isn't even on the poster for Episode VII in China. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq <cite>Zareth posted [p:944170563] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>aHappySacka posted... </cite> <quote>They can't make minority characters important or else it will offend the Chinese market.</quote>This. Finn isn't even on the poster for Episode VII in China. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fierce_Deity_08 09/03/20 5:39:28 PM #21:	Finn was one of my favorite new characters (Besides BB-8 of course. I mean, who really can compare to a cute robot?). He was the first one I got an action figure of. --- Official Fierce Deity in my own mind. GT: OnikaraStar, PSN: Onikara, NNID: OnikaraStar <cite>Fierce_Deity_08 posted [p:944173197] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Finn was one of my favorite new characters (Besides BB-8 of course. I mean, who really can compare to a cute robot?). He was the first one I got an action figure of. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 09/03/20 6:05:34 PM #22:	At least Finn got a lot of shiptease --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:944174265] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>At least Finn got a lot of shiptease </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 09/03/20 6:32:42 PM #23:	Zeus posted... Most people hated Finn as a character. He was a lousy character. Although, to be fair, he was also played by a lousy actor. again with the absolute worst take in the topic lol --- me when anyone replies to my posts: https://youtu.be/d1YBv2mWll0 <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:944175325] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote> Most people hated Finn as a character. He was a lousy character. Although, to be fair, he was also played by a lousy actor.</quote>again with the absolute worst take in the topic lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 09/03/20 6:43:34 PM #24:	ParanoidObsessive posted... The Chinese hate black people, and they hated Finn as a character. Most of Hollywood has spent the last 10 years pandering more and more to the Chinese market because there is SO MUCH money to be made there. The math is pretty damned easy to do. Worth noting that they also hate Star Wars and every SW film has been a trashfire in the Chinese box office --- https://imgur.com/mmESgwx <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:944175775] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>The Chinese hate black people, and they hated Finn as a character. Most of Hollywood has spent the last 10 years pandering more and more to the Chinese market because there is SO MUCH money to be made there. The math is pretty damned easy to do.</quote>Worth noting that they also hate Star Wars and every SW film has been a trashfire in the Chinese box office </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/03/20 6:51:39 PM #25:	So they probably loved Black Panther --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:944176112] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>So they probably loved Black Panther </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dedbus 09/03/20 6:53:30 PM #26:	market them to be much more important in the franchise than they are and then have them pushed to the side, So literally everyone including the main character lol. Even Luke fucking skywalker. Hahaha. <cite>dedbus posted [p:944176183] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>market them to be much more important in the franchise than they are and then have them pushed to the side, So literally everyone including the main character lol. Even Luke fucking skywalker. Hahaha. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 09/03/20 6:54:35 PM #27:	As someone who mostly liked TLJ, Finn is one thing that the movie undoubtedly fucked And then RoS pissed on his grave --- https://imgur.com/mmESgwx <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:944176229] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>As someone who mostly liked TLJ, Finn is one thing that the movie undoubtedly fucked And then RoS pissed on his grave </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/03/20 6:56:13 PM #28:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... Ironic, considering how many accused Disney of going "SJW." Well they decided to go with women representation as the lead jedi instead, thats still within the realm of sjw. Even if Boyega is whiney I was disappointed they didnt have him play the main lead. I was expecting some grand story about how a storm trooper rebelled and became an amazing jedi but nope... --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:944176293] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>Ironic, considering how many accused Disney of going "SJW."</quote>Well they decided to go with women representation as the lead jedi instead, thats still within the realm of sjw. Even if Boyega is whiney I was disappointed they didnt have him play the main lead. I was expecting some grand story about how a storm trooper rebelled and became an amazing jedi but nope... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/03/20 7:05:17 PM #29:	How is China a big market when piracy is so rampant there? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:944176668] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>How is China a big market when piracy is so rampant there?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 09/03/20 7:09:26 PM #30:	he's right --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:944176827] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>he's right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/03/20 7:12:13 PM #31:	deoxxys posted... Well they decided to go with women representation as the lead jedi instead, thats still within the realm of sjw. just casting a woman in a lead role is really enough to set off your SJW alarms? Thats pretty pathetic dude --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:944176951] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite> <quote>Well they decided to go with women representation as the lead jedi instead, thats still within the realm of sjw.</quote> just casting a woman in a lead role is really enough to set off your SJW alarms? Thats pretty pathetic dude </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/03/20 7:32:29 PM #32:	DirtBasedSoap posted... again with the absolute worst take in the topic lol lol, DBS thinks people actually liked Finn!!! ROFLMAO!!!!! And then talks about other people having terrible takes! This is too much! HA! deoxxys posted... I was expecting some grand story about how a storm trooper rebelled and became an amazing jedi but nope... idk, the problem there is that even Finn's background as a storm trooper sucked. Given the only action he saw as a storm trooper, he seemed like he was being set up as a comic relief character. That and storm trooper to jedi would have been a bit of a jump anyway. Granted, given how awful TFA was, I guess anything would have been an improvement. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:944177741] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>DirtBasedSoap posted... </cite> <quote>again with the absolute worst take in the topic lol</quote> lol, DBS thinks people actually liked Finn!!! ROFLMAO!!!!! And then talks about other people having terrible takes! This is too much! HA! deoxxys posted... </cite> <quote>I was expecting some grand story about how a storm trooper rebelled and became an amazing jedi but nope...</quote> idk, the problem there is that even Finn's background as a storm trooper sucked. Given the only action he saw as a storm trooper, he seemed like he was being set up as a comic relief character. That and storm trooper to jedi would have been a bit of a jump anyway. Granted, given how awful TFA was, I guess anything would have been an improvement. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 09/03/20 7:34:01 PM #33:	people liked finn, yes. what are you basing this finn hate off of? because even in communities that shit all over the ST, i never see finn hate. mostly disappointment that his character was wasted but he definitely is not 'hated'. --- me when anyone replies to my posts: https://youtu.be/d1YBv2mWll0 <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:944177805] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>people liked finn, yes. what are you basing this finn hate off of? because even in communities that shit all over the ST, i never see finn hate. mostly disappointment that his character was wasted but he definitely is not 'hated'. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/03/20 7:39:22 PM #34:	Mead posted... just casting a woman in a lead role is really enough to set off your SJW alarms? Thats pretty pathetic dude I didnt say that I even had sjw alarms to begin with But I thought having a lead female jedi was a big deal among sjws. You sure are an aggressive one, I do nothing but try to get along with you but yet you always are trying to start fights @Mead --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:944177997] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>just casting a woman in a lead role is really enough to set off your SJW alarms? Thats pretty pathetic dude</quote>I didnt say that I even had sjw alarms to begin with But I thought having a lead female jedi was a big deal among sjws. You sure are an aggressive one, I do nothing but try to get along with you but yet you always are trying to start fights @Mead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/03/20 7:56:28 PM #35:	deoxxys posted... You sure are an aggressive one, I do nothing but try to get along with you but yet you always are trying to start fights youre right I can be too quick to pass judgement and get up in arms sometimes and I need to work on that my bad sorry --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:944178661] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite> <quote>You sure are an aggressive one, I do nothing but try to get along with you but yet you always are trying to start fights</quote> youre right I can be too quick to pass judgement and get up in arms sometimes and I need to work on that my bad sorry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/03/20 7:57:23 PM #36:	DirtBasedSoap posted... people liked finn, yes. what are you basing this finn hate off of? because even in communities that shit all over the ST, i never see finn hate. Aka "I talked to a few people who liked Finn so I believe people actually liked Finn." DirtBasedSoap posted... mostly disappointment that his character was wasted but he definitely is not 'hated'. When every bit of the character is wasted, what's left to like? deoxxys posted... But I thought having a lead female jedi was a big deal among sjws. tbh, I remember there being a lot of buzz that this was some feminist victory. Honestly, given that they sidelined Luke, the lead was going to be scrutinized regardless. deoxxys posted... You sure are an aggressive one, I do nothing but try to get along with you but yet you always are trying to start fights @ Mead tbh, I think he's somehow got even more toxic since blocking me, which I didn't think was possible. All the same, I'm happier for having zero interaction with him. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:944178691] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>DirtBasedSoap posted... </cite> <quote>people liked finn, yes. what are you basing this finn hate off of? because even in communities that shit all over the ST, i never see finn hate.</quote> Aka "I talked to a few people who liked Finn so I believe people actually liked Finn." DirtBasedSoap posted... </cite> <quote>mostly disappointment that his character was wasted but he definitely is not 'hated'.</quote> When every bit of the character is wasted, what's left to like? deoxxys posted... </cite> <quote>But I thought having a lead female jedi was a big deal among sjws.</quote> tbh, I remember there being a lot of buzz that this was some feminist victory. Honestly, given that they sidelined Luke, the lead was going to be scrutinized regardless. deoxxys posted... </cite> <quote>You sure are an aggressive one, I do nothing but try to get along with you but yet you always are trying to start fights @ Mead</quote> tbh, I think he's somehow got even more toxic since blocking me, which I didn't think was possible. All the same, I'm happier for having zero interaction with him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/03/20 8:01:45 PM #37:	Mead posted... youre right I can be too quick to pass judgement and get up in arms sometimes and I need to work on that my bad sorry Wow, I appreciate that, thanks. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:944178849] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>youre right I can be too quick to pass judgement and get up in arms sometimes and I need to work on that my bad sorry</quote>Wow, I appreciate that, thanks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 09/03/20 8:02:31 PM #38:	Finn should get a solo series --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:944178883] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Finn should get a solo series </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Abibde 09/03/20 9:34:05 PM #39:	Revelation34 posted... How is China a big market when piracy is so rampant there? Figures from The Economist: Chinese box office in 2005: $275M Chinese box office in 2019: $10B And that's taking piracy into account. The U.S. box office has been struggling for a while and gradually shrinking, whilst the Chinese box office has been exploding. So, yes, Hollywood is pandering to the Communists. :-P --- -- I Abibde / Samuraiter Laughing at Game FAQs since 2002. <cite>I_Abibde posted [p:944182466] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>How is China a big market when piracy is so rampant there?</quote> Figures from The Economist: Chinese box office in 2005: $275M Chinese box office in 2019: $10B And that's taking piracy into account. The U.S. box office has been struggling for a while and gradually shrinking, whilst the Chinese box office has been exploding. So, yes, Hollywood is pandering to the Communists. :-P </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 09/03/20 11:01:17 PM #40:	The best way to minimize piracy is ease of access. We saw this with how piracy plunged after streaming services and game downloads became more ubiquitous. As China gets easier access to western films, you can expect them to pirate them less. --- https://imgur.com/mmESgwx <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:944185373] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>The best way to minimize piracy is ease of access. We saw this with how piracy plunged after streaming services and game downloads became more ubiquitous. As China gets easier access to western films, you can expect them to pirate them less. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/03/20 11:02:41 PM #41:	Blightzkrieg posted... The best way to minimize piracy is ease of access. We saw this with how piracy plunged after streaming services and game downloads became more ubiquitous. As China gets easier access to western films, you can expect them to pirate them less. Bootlegging is huge in China though. All the websites are run by triads too. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:944185419] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Blightzkrieg posted...</cite> <quote>The best way to minimize piracy is ease of access. We saw this with how piracy plunged after streaming services and game downloads became more ubiquitous. As China gets easier access to western films, you can expect them to pirate them less. </quote> Bootlegging is huge in China though. All the websites are run by triads too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 09/03/20 11:05:09 PM #42:	Okay. My point still stands --- https://imgur.com/mmESgwx <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:944185490] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Okay. My point still stands </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/04/20 2:43:50 AM #43:	Blightzkrieg posted... Okay. My point still stands No. My point is they would have to take out organized crime syndicates in order for it to be completely viable in China. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:944190785] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Blightzkrieg posted...</cite> <quote>Okay. My point still stands </quote> No. My point is they would have to take out organized crime syndicates in order for it to be completely viable in China.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 09/04/20 2:52:35 AM #44:	Revelation34 posted... No. My point is they would have to take out organized crime syndicates in order for it to be completely viable in China. By making things crime syndicates sell easily available legally you take away all their power, stopping the war on drugs would also cripple the drug cartels --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:944190931] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>No. My point is they would have to take out organized crime syndicates in order for it to be completely viable in China.</quote>By making things crime syndicates sell easily available legally you take away all their power, stopping the war on drugs would also cripple the drug cartels </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 09/04/20 4:10:34 AM #45:	ParanoidObsessive posted... I'd almost be willing to assume that maybe Disney said something to Rian Johnson about minimizing Finn's role to appease the Chinese market, but Johnson DID give him a pretty big presence in the movie. It just happens to be in a terrible side-plot that prety much everyone hates. I initially thought thought, but it doesn't make sense considering how much hype and willingness to give Finn the spotlight in TFA. If they were that afraid a black actor in a prominent role would tank them, they wouldn't have even started him off strong from the get-go. And considering they introduced Rose, a Vietnamese American (which the Chinese would be indifferent to at best, fucking hate at worst) actress in TLJ, the idea that they were pulling on the strings in this casting regard for the Chinese falls flat. Rian just being trash pretty much explains everything. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:944192143] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>I'd almost be willing to assume that maybe Disney said something to Rian Johnson about minimizing Finn's role to appease the Chinese market, but Johnson DID give him a pretty big presence in the movie. It just happens to be in a terrible side-plot that prety much everyone hates.</quote>I initially thought thought, but it doesn't make sense considering how much hype and willingness to give Finn the spotlight in TFA. If they were that afraid a black actor in a prominent role would tank them, they wouldn't have even started him off strong from the get-go. And considering they introduced Rose, a Vietnamese American (which the Chinese would be indifferent to at best, fucking hate at worst) actress in TLJ, the idea that they were pulling on the strings in this casting regard for the Chinese falls flat. Rian just being trash pretty much explains everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 09/04/20 4:12:05 AM #46:	Muscles posted... By making things crime syndicates sell easily available legally you take away all their power, stopping the war on drugs would also cripple the drug cartels This is why that one Mexican politician who wanted to legalize a lot of drugs was assassinated. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq <cite>Zareth posted [p:944192163] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>By making things crime syndicates sell easily available legally you take away all their power, stopping the war on drugs would also cripple the drug cartels</quote>This is why that one Mexican politician who wanted to legalize a lot of drugs was assassinated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 09/04/20 8:01:19 AM #47:	Revelation34 posted... No. My point is they would have to take out organized crime syndicates in order for it to be completely viable in China. Are they gonna hold people at gunpoint and force them to download Star Wars? This doesn't have anything to do with what I said. --- https://imgur.com/mmESgwx <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:944195435] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>No. My point is they would have to take out organized crime syndicates in order for it to be completely viable in China.</quote>Are they gonna hold people at gunpoint and force them to download Star Wars? This doesn't have anything to do with what I said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 09/04/20 10:05:44 AM #48:	Krow_Incarnate posted... This dude might be the biggest victim in Hollywood. Definitely. Hilarious this guy says this unironically after being the biggest star pushed to the forefront for this trilogy despite being a mediocre actor <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:944198551] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Krow_Incarnate posted... </cite> <quote>This dude might be the biggest victim in Hollywood.</quote> Definitely. Hilarious this guy says this unironically after being the biggest star pushed to the forefront for this trilogy despite being a mediocre actor </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 09/04/20 11:52:11 AM #49:	Revelation34 posted... No. My point is they would have to take out organized crime syndicates in order for it to be completely viable in China. wouldnt reducing a major method of income of a criminal organization be a pretty big step in that direction? --- The Betrayer <cite>Mead posted [p:944202009] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>No. My point is they would have to take out organized crime syndicates in order for it to be completely viable in China.</quote> wouldnt reducing a major method of income of a criminal organization be a pretty big step in that direction? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/04/20 1:17:16 PM #51:	Mead posted... wouldnt reducing a major method of income of a criminal organization be a pretty big step in that direction? It won't get reduced. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:944205208] in John Boyeg... [t:78951485]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted...</cite> <quote> wouldnt reducing a major method of income of a criminal organization be a pretty big step in that direction? </quote> It won't get reduced.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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