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Delirious_Beard
08/13/20 10:05:54 PM
#51:


LightningAce11 posted...
It's a weird thing, because people always say to debate racists, but if you say they should be re educated, taught why their beliefs are wrong and learn to be better, you get accusations of "wrongthink".

it's almost like they're wildly disingenuous concern trolling or something

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Zeeak4444
08/13/20 10:07:59 PM
#52:


Numenor posted...
How about you let their HR department handle any complaints customers of that man have, instead of poking your nose into something that doesn't involve you at all?

This Cancel Culture which has developed is dangerous and antithetical to American society and tradition. It is solely meant to silence any thoughts/expressions/voices which do not agree with the complainer. People are allowed to debate, have different views, and yes... even be racist to others. That is what Freedom of Speech protects.

Dislike what they said.... respond to them directly. Call them out on their timeline. Challenge their beliefs with yours. You have no proof they act in any racist/unprofessional way when at work. If that surfaces at their place of employment it is thier employer who needs to deal with it, not you.

I love how little you know about our society and traditions.

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Pseudomenon
08/13/20 10:15:04 PM
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I always get the impression that the people who speak out against this the most have some skeletons in their social media closets and they know this could happen to them.


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RebelElite791
08/13/20 11:17:51 PM
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The people upset about this are telling on themselves

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teepan95
08/13/20 11:45:44 PM
#55:


Ya did good TC
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muchdran
08/13/20 11:48:47 PM
#56:


What did this person say? Fuck get to the point
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SomeLikeItHoth
08/13/20 11:52:06 PM
#57:


You did the right thing. Aboriginal people shouldnt be treated that way. Keep us updated tc.

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Axiom
08/13/20 11:58:46 PM
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Put racists on blast. All of them. They want to broadcast their dumbass beliefs to the public then by all means help them. Broadcast it everywhere
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DontHateMe
08/14/20 12:10:18 AM
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I did this to a kid who was doing real estate. He has no idea it was me, guess whos walking dogs through apps now? Lmao.

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TheOtherMike
08/14/20 12:10:29 AM
#62:


Objectively fair, next, and if you disagree you're wrong.
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EvolutionUber
08/14/20 1:54:02 AM
#63:


The company got back to with the general we are so disappointed in the behaviour we have sent your message and screenshots to management. Deepest apologies etc etc. They did say theyd send a follow up email in a few days with more information. I hope they stick to it.


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VandorLee
08/14/20 2:01:33 AM
#64:


As long as its fair game to send your employer anything youve ever posted online.

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Guide
08/14/20 7:31:01 AM
#65:


VandorLee posted...
As long as its fair game to send your employer anything youve ever posted online.

As it should be.

I'm troubled with the implication that you've posted shit so bad that you deserve to be fired. Was it racist?

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shnangyboos
08/14/20 7:35:50 AM
#66:


Guide posted...
As it should be.

I'm troubled with the implication that you've posted shit so bad that you deserve to be fired. Was it racist?


Racism Detective is on the case!

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MacadamianNut3
08/14/20 7:36:45 AM
#67:


It's really not that hard to not be a shithead online or at least not do it with your personal info plastered right next to the shitposting

So super fair next. My favorite instances of this are on random shared articles on LinkedIn where the only detective work you have to do is click on a name, but most of the people I'm connected to either directly or through other people tend to not have brain damage so it's not a common occurrence

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CyricZ
08/14/20 7:48:09 AM
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Is it taught in schools these days that what you post online is forever, something that you own, and something that can be used against you?

If not, it absolutely should be.

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R1masher
08/14/20 7:50:07 AM
#69:


Is they canceled yet?

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Jiggy101011
08/14/20 7:51:20 AM
#70:


CyricZ posted...
Is it taught in schools these days that what you post online is forever, something that you own, and something that can be used against you?

If not, it absolutely should be.

Parents should be teaching that

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BigB0ss13
08/14/20 7:52:03 AM
#71:


Numenor posted...
Destroying a person's livelihood is a really dick thing to do. Shame them on whatever media platform you want, but going after their job crosses a line.


All them Karens and racists we've seen in the media should've kept their job then and have shitty people represent their company which would lose a lot of business if these Karens/racists kept their job. OP, don't worry you did the right thing. I would also spread this anywhere like reddit, twitter, facebook, etc Name and shame ALL racists.
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Irony
08/14/20 7:52:34 AM
#72:


Numenor posted...
Destroying a person's livelihood is a really dick thing to do. Shame them on whatever media platform you want, but going after their job crosses a line.
Stop being a racist sympathizer

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SmidgeIsntBack
08/14/20 7:53:46 AM
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"In a racist society, it is not enough to be non-racist, we must be anti-racist.

Angela Davis

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Tenlaar
08/14/20 7:56:14 AM
#74:


You did the right thing TC, people who have bigoted views like that should not potentially be in a position of power over the people they hold those bigoted views against, and that goes doubly in the case of disabled people who are often incapable of fully advocating for themselves.
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KiwiTerraRizing
08/14/20 7:56:49 AM
#75:


TC did the right thing. Fuck that guy, he posted in an openly accessible forum.

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toyota
08/14/20 7:58:15 AM
#76:


EvolutionUber posted...
The company got back to with the general we are so disappointed in the behaviour we have sent your message and screenshots to management. Deepest apologies etc etc. They did say theyd send a follow up email in a few days with more information. I hope they stick to it.

Nice. Id like to see what they say

But for real. why do people post dumb shit on stuff like facebook with accounts associated with their IRL selves and IRL jobs. You are supposed to do stuff like that behind screen names and shit.

Yeah yeah i get the whole what i do out of work shouldnt affect my job. Sorry but it kind of does these days when its on such public forums and shit gets recorded and documented so easily. Its not the pre internet age where you could get away with doing silly crap because no one recorded it and shit wasnt on such public display. You wanna say racist shit. Do it in the privacy of your own home with selected indivduals who wont rat you out. Want to act like a Karen in public? Wear a fucking mask to hide your identity before acting a fool.

Like shit man, times have changed, adapt your asshole behaviors with it if you wanna continue on doing it.

Its like that thing Will Smith said about how racism has always been around, its just now being recorded.

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Cookie Bag
08/14/20 8:09:54 AM
#77:


Numenor posted...
It is solely meant to silence any thoughts/expressions/voices which do not agree with the complainer.
ITP: "FUCKING REEE I CAN'T BE A PIECE OF **** RACIST WITHOUT PEOPLE TELLING ON ME"

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Esrac
08/14/20 9:18:43 AM
#78:


A few thoughts.

1. Non-anonymous social media was a mistake.

2. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

3. No one likes moralizing busy-bodies and wannabe inquisitors.
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Tenlaar
08/14/20 9:21:46 AM
#79:


Esrac posted...
1. Non-anonymous social media was a mistake.
I completely disagree, the mistake was allowing people to start out by feeling like they have some right to anonymity on the internet.
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3PiesAndAFork
08/14/20 9:27:37 AM
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Not being able to punch people over the internet was a mistake. Think of how few trolls there would be.

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Guide
08/14/20 9:36:38 AM
#81:


Esrac posted...
3. No one likes moralizing busy-bodies and wannabe inquisitors.

Cancel culture wouldn't exist if this were the case. I absolutely love racism being punished.

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Esrac
08/14/20 9:48:19 AM
#82:


Tenlaar posted...
I completely disagree, the mistake was allowing people to start out by feeling like they have some right to anonymity on the internet.

Then start posting here with your full, legal name, if you don't think you should have a right to anonymity.

Guide posted...
Cancel culture wouldn't exist if this were the case. I absolutely love racism being punished.

Cancel culture is almost universally reviled because the people who engage in it are so petty and vindictive. Yeah, maybe the guy said something racist, but if you're going to go out of your way to try to destroy his life, youre just a bad person.
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Guide
08/14/20 9:57:36 AM
#83:


Esrac posted...
Then start posting here with your full, legal name, if you don't think you should have a right to anonymity.

Cancel culture is almost universally reviled because the people who engage in it are so petty and vindictive. Yeah, maybe the guy said something racist, but if you're going to go out of your way to try to destroy his life, youre just a bad person.

"Almost universally" in your bubble, maybe, but the (unfortunately slight) majority of people don't want racists around, working with or for them. Feel free to prove this wrong.

You can't ever win by defending racism, man. Although I'm not surprised that you're trying to.

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Bio1590
08/14/20 10:14:00 AM
#84:


Esrac posted...
A few thoughts.

1. Non-anonymous social media was a mistake.

2. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

3. No one likes moralizing busy-bodies and wannabe inquisitors.

*looks at tag*


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Esrac
08/14/20 10:22:33 AM
#85:


Guide posted...
"Almost universally" in your bubble, maybe, but the (unfortunately slight) majority of people don't want racists around, working with or for them. Feel free to prove this wrong.

You can't ever win by defending racism, man. Although I'm not surprised that you're trying to.

You know what, I can concede on this one. There really isn't any viable position to defend someone who is as dumb as this guy. Can't even give him a pass for off-color humor. I can't even feel bad for him if he gets reprimanded or fired.

Speaking of petty and vindictive, you can't help but add a snide little remark at the end there, can you?
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Esrac
08/14/20 10:23:11 AM
#86:


Bio1590 posted...
*looks at tag*


Oh. No one has ever mentioned having me tagged before. Whats mine say?
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Guide
08/14/20 10:26:45 AM
#87:


Esrac posted...
You know what, I can concede on this one. There really isn't any viable position to defend someone who is as dumb as this guy. Can't even give him a pass for off-color humor. I can't even feel bad for him if he gets reprimanded or fired.

Speaking of petty and vindictive, you can't help but add a snide little remark at the end there, can you?

Hey, it's your reputation and posting history. The attempted defense of a racist is consistent with what you do on this board.

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Rexdragon125
08/14/20 10:33:21 AM
#88:


So why should intolerance be tolerated? Why is believing people of different skin color are subhuman a valid opinion?
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TommyG663513
08/14/20 10:41:57 AM
#90:


Bishop9800 posted...
no you haven't

Not far enough if anything

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Esrac
08/14/20 10:55:38 AM
#91:


Guide posted...
Hey, it's your reputation and posting history. The attempted defense of a racist is consistent with what you do on this board.

I'll take a moment to be honest with you here, because I'm feeling a little morose today. Unless its about video games I like, maybe half of my posts here are sincere. If that. Or maybe you could say I'll post in half-truths.

I spent years on this site posting genuine, honest opinions in the Politics, Religion, WoT, etc boards. But eventually I stopped caring about that, because arguing on a dying message board is a dumb waste of time, because it never influences anyone, and I only still post here out of familiarity and boredom.

So, now I usually post whatever I think might be most entertaining to me at the time. I usually put very little actual thought into my posts and generally I barely even remember what I'd said a few days before, without looking it up. So, I don't really keep track of whatever reputation I have here.
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joe40001
08/14/20 11:00:24 AM
#92:


Was he acting as a representative of the company while saying these things?

If no, then no you shouldn't try to get people fired for wrongthink.

And let's be honest, you didn't do this because you were worried about his effectiveness as an employee, you did this because he said something you found offensive and you wanted to use the internet to punish him

If he's fired, in 1 week you will move on and for months he might still be hugely struggling because of your actions.

But I bet you still feel justified in the assumption that a single post on social media is representative of the entire breadth of his character as a human.

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Guide
08/14/20 11:01:13 AM
#93:


Esrac posted...
I'll take a moment to be honest with you here, because I'm feeling a little morose today. Unless its about video games I like, maybe half of my posts here are sincere. If that. Or maybe you could say I'll post in half-truths.

I spent years on this site posting genuine, honest opinions in the Politics, Religion, WoT, etc boards. But eventually I stopped caring about that, because arguing on a dying message board is a dumb waste of time, because it never influences anyone, and I only still post here out of familiarity and boredom.

So, now I usually post whatever I think might be most entertaining to me at the time. I usually put very little actual thought into my posts and generally I barely even remember what I'd said a few days before, without looking it up. So, I don't really keep track of whatever reputation I have here.

This is some pretty direct and earnest stuff. I perhaps should ease up, then. But know that, like, your defenses involving this sort of "political thing" have consistently been for bigotry, and for people who remember things, that builds up. It's not like I'm keeping a spreadsheet, I think someone here actually is, but people remember things. I screencap the really bad stuff. You're not in any screencaps.

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joe40001
08/14/20 11:03:05 AM
#94:


KiwiTerraRizing posted...
TC did the right thing. Fuck that guy, he posted in an openly accessible forum.

So it's not that the guy thinks those things, but that he posted it in an open forum.

I thought we work from the mindset of "fuck all bigots" so surely even if he just whispered it to himself he should get fired, yes?

Or are you defending bigotry?

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Guide
08/14/20 11:05:49 AM
#95:


joe40001 posted...
So it's not that the guy thinks those things, but that he posted it in an open forum.

I thought we work from the mindset of "fuck all bigots" so surely even if he just whispered it to himself he should get fired, yes?

Or are you defending bigotry?

I honestly can't tell what point you're trying to make.

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Tenlaar
08/14/20 11:07:01 AM
#96:


Esrac posted...
So, now I usually post whatever I think might be most entertaining to me at the time. I usually put very little actual thought into my posts and generally I barely even remember what I'd said a few days before, without looking it up. So, I don't really keep track of whatever reputation I have here.
You're trying to use "I just intentionally post offensive things to troll people for the lulz" like it is some kind of defense rather than just an admission of being a shit person.
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MacadamianNut3
08/14/20 11:07:16 AM
#97:


I think he's trying to do a thought crime gotcha, but in the way that a stupid person would go about it

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Lysandear
08/14/20 11:07:41 AM
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@Esrac what is the point of coming here for years and taking soft/passive racist stances, only to occasionally say that you dont seriously think those things? what's the point? it's fun pretending to be racist?
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joe40001
08/14/20 11:18:44 AM
#99:


Guide posted...
I honestly can't tell what point you're trying to make.

My point is that I don't think it logically tracks to say "he deserves it because he posted it on facebook". Because none of what is apparently upsetting about it is derived from where were he said it but presumably that he believes it in the first place.

The logic for cancel bullies seems to be
"I hear something you say that offends me"
"I infer from that that you are a bigot"
"I enjoy punishing bigots"
"I can morally excuse myself for enjoying punishing bigots, because I place their perceived identity as a bigot as more important to me than the rest of their humanity"
"I use what you said to get you punished"

So if the inference is that they are a bigot, the medium or method for which their bigotness is uncovered should be irrelevant, yes? Whether it's a private DM to a friend or a twitter post, if you can infer from what they say they are a bigot, then punishing them is always fine, right?

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