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07/25/20 8:34:16 PM
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I'll start us off with Cernd from BG2, who's probably the worst playable character in the game, and joins later than the other druid, who's much better than him.

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07/25/20 8:35:48 PM
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Umaro
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07/25/20 8:36:48 PM
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Two thirds of the characters in Chrono Cross

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07/25/20 8:47:49 PM
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Ideally posted...
Two thirds of the characters in Chrono Cross


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cyko
07/25/20 8:54:48 PM
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Neko the cat from Suikoden IV.

and all of the other worthless cats from Suikoden IV.

Also, Freya, Amarant and Quina from Final Fantasy IX

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VengefulKaelee
07/25/20 8:56:47 PM
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Three quarters of the characters in FFVI

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Jesse_Custer
07/25/20 8:57:01 PM
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Edward from FFIV
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Whiskey_Nick
07/25/20 8:58:59 PM
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Kimahri

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VengefulKaelee
07/25/20 9:00:14 PM
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Some slightly more serious answers:

Miranda from ME2
Mission Vao from KOTOR1
GO-T0 from KOTOR2 (though he is an awesome character)

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kateee
07/25/20 9:02:35 PM
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Togepi
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07/25/20 9:03:01 PM
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07/25/20 9:50:32 PM
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Shinjiro and Koromaru (sorry but it's true)
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ZenOfThunder
07/25/20 9:52:19 PM
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Kimarhi

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WazzupGenius00
07/25/20 9:53:05 PM
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Prince of Cannock, the OG useless party member

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Mr Crispy
07/25/20 9:54:09 PM
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jogurt from shining force
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07/25/20 9:54:52 PM
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Steel Massimo

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BetrayedTangy
07/25/20 10:10:05 PM
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Sharla from Xenoblade

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skullbone
07/25/20 10:13:51 PM
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BetrayedTangy posted...
Sharla from Xenoblade

literally wut

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hombad46
07/25/20 10:15:32 PM
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Donald and Goofy

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TheRock1525
07/25/20 10:17:19 PM
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The vast majority of Fire Emblem characters.

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Heroic Bigpun
07/25/20 10:18:19 PM
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Cait sith

The spear asshole in tales of legendia

Max in Tales of Eternia


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BetrayedTangy
07/25/20 10:19:22 PM
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skullbone posted...
literally wut

Her AI sucks and isn't useful or fun enough to use as the party lead.

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Leonhart4
07/25/20 10:20:06 PM
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VengefulKaelee posted...
Some slightly more serious answers:

Miranda from ME2
Mission Vao from KOTOR1
GO-T0 from KOTOR2 (though he is an awesome character)

Miranda is actually really valuable on Insanity runs!

First thought was Kimahri. Secretly good answer is Vincent in FFVII.

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scarletspeed7
07/25/20 10:22:06 PM
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Player characters.

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xp1337
07/25/20 10:24:37 PM
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AI Controlled Tails in Genesis-era Sonic.

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swirIdude
07/25/20 10:24:45 PM
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All party members in Paper Mario: The Origami King

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LiquidOshawott
07/25/20 10:24:48 PM
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Mr Crispy posted...
jogurt from shining force

this is my first thought always

Adam in that game is pretty bad too

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scarletspeed7
07/25/20 10:25:41 PM
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The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party

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Johnbobb
07/25/20 10:25:48 PM
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most Pokemon

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Haste_2
07/25/20 10:28:23 PM
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Ruby from Lunar: Eternal Blue

Why are you asking, TC?

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CaptainOfCrush
07/25/20 10:29:01 PM
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It's been 13 years since I played FFX, and I thought Kimahri was pretty viable at first, but IIRC, he was left in the dust by midgame. Like yeah, he's a traditional answer to a question like this, but I didn't think he was useless from start to finish.

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Leonhart4
07/25/20 10:31:38 PM
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CaptainOfCrush posted...
It's been 13 years since I played FFX, and I thought Kimahri was pretty viable at first, but IIRC, he was left in the dust by midgame. Like yeah, he's a traditional answer to a question like this, but I didn't think he was useless from start to finish.

Kimahri gets left in the dust because he doesn't excel in anything in particular. By making him a jack of all trades, he truly became a master of none, so there's no real reason to keep using him because there will be someone who can do it better than him and his Overdrive isn't all that special.

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UF8
07/25/20 11:47:05 PM
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pokey
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hombad46
07/25/20 11:51:23 PM
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Martin's Solrock

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SugarFlakes
07/26/20 12:17:01 AM
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Fiona in Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn. Its like she was designed to die.
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HanOfTheNekos
07/26/20 12:26:05 AM
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Roz'etta Schtone

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Panthera
07/26/20 12:31:28 AM
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Every Fire Emblem character that joins late in the game with shitty bases. Most "shitty bases, high growths" units in general really

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pyresword
07/26/20 1:06:33 AM
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Mitsuru unless you really like using Marin Karin
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Raka_Putra
07/26/20 1:13:17 AM
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Boudica, Angra Mainyuu, and Jekyll/Hyde from FGO.

Fiona from RD is a good answer.

Say'ri from Awakening is also a contender. She joins late with middling stats and basically no Support options.

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Lucavi000
07/26/20 1:27:53 AM
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everyone who isnt the main character in every game youve ever played.

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Steiner
07/26/20 1:30:59 AM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Kimahri gets left in the dust because he doesn't excel in anything in particular. By making him a jack of all trades, he truly became a master of none, so there's no real reason to keep using him because there will be someone who can do it better than him and his Overdrive isn't all that special.

also because the ffx battle system, throughout the story content, focuses on attacking an enemy weakness - and each enemy is basically designed to be killed by one of the party members, and that is never kimahri as he has no specialty

cyko posted...
Also, Freya, Amarant and Quina from Final Fantasy IX

this is just flat untrue

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Shonen_Bat
07/26/20 1:51:03 AM
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came here to say Adam from Shining Force

at least they don't try to pretend Jogurt is a usable character

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07/26/20 1:54:53 AM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party

Wow, really? This is a tragesty

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SythaWarrior
07/26/20 2:43:57 AM
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Nah Kimahri is fine for a little bit. He tends to fill the same void as Auron does (Having Piercing weapons)

The issue with Kimahri. Is his personal grid is tiny and he will have to go into someone else's grid to increase his stats. The reason why this sucks is that he has to go into the starting part of their grid. Often having to go thru like 3-4 blanks to get to the start of their grid. The starting parts of the grid are very low stated too. Like the end of the grid will have a bunch of +3/+4 stats. The start of the grid is going to be full of +1s and some +2s. He'll just naturally fall behind because of stats and it's not like he has amazing base stats like Wakka or Auron do.

I completely disagree with a few of the posts so far.
Freya/Amarant/Quina. I think those are 3 of the strongest party members in FF9. Quina might be the strongest character in that game.
Mission Vao I don't think is even the worst character in KotOR1. HK-47 as cool as he is exists. HK-47 requires you have to build your main character certain ways or he is completely unuseable. He's kinda locked to the 2nd weakest weapon type (Rifles), He only gets like 5 Feats which is the lowest in the game. Like even T3-M4 has better damage potential than HK and he's the utility droid.

100% agree with Fiona from Radiant Dawn. There is like almost no salvaging her.

This is actually a hard question. Bunch of Late 90s/Early 00s games have a ton of these characters but I can't think of too many


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Leonhart4
07/26/20 2:51:48 AM
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Well, I guess it depends whether you consider the question as "never useful" or "useless overall." Someone like Meliadoul in FFT has some useful skills but Orlandu will probably already be able to do them by the time she joins, so she's basically redundant.

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blasster
07/26/20 3:49:18 AM
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Yea, game like Suikoden and Chrono Cross nay have like 40+ recruitable party members, but you prob not gonna use most of them after recruiting them.

Focusing on quantity is a mistake.

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Cavedweller2000
07/26/20 4:12:16 AM
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Menji posted...
Amarant
Came in to say this

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LiquidOshawott
07/26/20 7:21:37 AM
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You can make Kimahri go through Rikkus tree before you get her, so theres that at least (but her overdrives are just way better)

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Palbatross
07/26/20 8:14:44 AM
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Of all the Suikoden games, I think Suikoden III and its skill system did the best job of (mostly) avoiding redundant characters.

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