Poll of the Day > Have you guys listened to Taylor Swift's new album yet?

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JigsawTDC
07/24/20 7:11:42 PM
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I think this might be my favorite album of hers! Even if she's not typically your style, this might be one to give a shot. It's largely produced by one of the members of The National and features a guest appearance by Bon Iver.
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Krazy_Kirby
07/24/20 7:15:04 PM
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no interest
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Clench281
07/24/20 7:21:16 PM
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Yeah. It's not my style but I enjoy

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DDirtyDastard
07/24/20 7:49:42 PM
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Nope. Never will. There isn't enough soy in the world that could get me to listen to that estrogen overload.
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dancer62
07/24/20 7:58:43 PM
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Who?

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SpeedDemon20
07/24/20 8:01:46 PM
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I ordered it. I have to wait until I get home to listen.

dancer62 posted...
Who?
Taylor Swift. She won Artist of the Decade.

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PK_Spam
07/24/20 8:23:29 PM
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Does she have a Kanye diss track?

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Revelation34
07/24/20 9:20:16 PM
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Is there a song about Russell Greer on it?
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OniRonin
07/24/20 9:32:17 PM
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DDirtyDastard posted...
Nope. Never will. There isn't enough soy in the world that could get me to listen to that estrogen overload.
folks is it gay to listen to women sing

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FatalAccident
07/24/20 10:01:52 PM
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Need 2 download

Kanyes got an album out too guys

edit: guess not, its been delayed?

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Muscles
07/24/20 10:07:17 PM
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I'm not a masochist so no

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Sarcasthma
07/24/20 10:07:51 PM
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Muscles posted...
I'm not a masochist so no
omg dude epic burn lol

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Muscles
07/24/20 10:09:31 PM
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I wasn't intending it to be a burn or joke, I'm serious

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DDirtyDastard
07/24/20 10:35:27 PM
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OniRonin posted...
folks is it gay to listen to women sing

There's plenty of talented female musicians/singers that actually make good art. This chick ain't one of them. Not by a long shot.
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FatalAccident
07/24/20 10:45:33 PM
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DDirtyDastard posted...
There's plenty of talented female musicians/singers that actually make good art. This chick ain't one of them. Not by a long shot.
Always makes me cringe when people rag on popular musicians for not being good or real artists.

I mean really

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OniRonin
07/24/20 11:03:12 PM
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DDirtyDastard posted...
There's plenty of talented female musicians/singers that actually make good art. This chick ain't one of them. Not by a long shot.
hmm idk. listening to girls singing seems like a female trait to me

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JigsawTDC
07/24/20 11:16:33 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Does she have a Kanye diss track?

I don't think there's a direct diss on this one, but I think doing a collab with Bon Iver (who Kanye has worked with) and releasing this on the eve of when Kanye said *his* new album was coming out (it's been pushed back now) was very purposeful and kinda like a meta-diss.

Mad Woman could be interpreted to be about Kim and Kanye, but I think it's more likely about Scooter Braun and Scott Borchetta.
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Blue Bomber 99
07/24/20 11:18:21 PM
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Too much drama, boys and non sense.
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PK_Spam
07/24/20 11:37:53 PM
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JigsawTDC posted...
I don't think there's a direct diss on this one, but I think doing a collab with Bon Iver (who Kanye has worked with) and releasing this on the eve of when Kanye said *his* new album was coming out (it's been pushed back now) was very purposeful and kinda like a meta-diss.

Mad Woman could be interpreted to be about Kim and Kanye, but I think it's more likely about Scooter Braun and Scott Borchetta.
Wow! I dont know who any of those people are!

I dont know SHIT about culturally relevant music (outside of Drake SUCKING). I should listen to this new album. And BTS, I guess.

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Krazy_Kirby
07/25/20 5:33:00 AM
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FatalAccident posted...

Always makes me cringe when people rag on popular musicians for not being good or real artists.

I mean really


popular =/= good
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ParanoidObsessive
07/25/20 5:43:49 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
popular =/= good

Popular =/= automatically not good, either.

And in spite of what hipsters believe, "obscure as fuck" =/= good either.

There's definitely a tendency to dismiss any popular performer as being crap though, even when they're not. Whether you like her music or not (and no one is saying you have to), she's a more skilled musician and singer than pretty much anyone posting on PotD at the moment.

The reasons most people dislike her have very little to do with her actual music, and more to do with her as a person.
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kind9
07/25/20 5:54:35 AM
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I think she's pretty hot, but I don't care for her musics. I barely like country music, and she has put too much pop into it for my liking.

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Sarcasthma
07/25/20 5:59:24 AM
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Muscles posted...
I wasn't intending it to be a burn or joke, I'm serious
omg lol keep going keep going

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FatalAccident
07/25/20 6:01:53 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
popular =/= good
ignoring the fact that most of you dopes only hate on popular artists because they're popular

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kind9
07/25/20 6:29:54 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
ignoring the fact that most of you dopes only hate on popular artists because they're popular
To be fair popular mainstream artists tend to be foisted into that position and then their music is played in every department store and grocery store in the country. They're not generally known for their artistry. Like the Kardashians they're popular for being popular. At least that sure is how it seems.

But I've heard modern mainstream pop songs that I actually liked because they were upbeat and catchy, so I won't say it's all bad.

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Blightzkrieg
07/25/20 9:00:28 AM
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kind9 posted...
I think she's pretty hot, but I don't care for her musics. I barely like country music, and she has put too much pop into it for my liking.
Taylor Swift hasn't been country for like a decade at least

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Lokarin
07/25/20 9:02:19 AM
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I'm typically out of the loop, but I have at least heard of Taylor Swift even though I haven't heard any of her music...

> The National and features a guest appearance by Bon Iver.

But I don't know who those are

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Far-Queue
07/25/20 9:18:55 AM
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I heard she did a song with The National, whom I enjoy. I'll definitely check out that song, at some point. Maybe the rest.

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blu
07/25/20 9:28:07 AM
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Shes hot. Her music is good. She has a good personality. Shes great.
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kind9
07/25/20 10:04:43 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Taylor Swift hasn't been country for like a decade at least
Was she ever really country? I always considered her a pop musician, but her earlier music at least had country influences. Maybe I'm just talking out my ass since I never listened to her.

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kukukupo
07/25/20 10:10:55 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
no interest

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Blightzkrieg
07/25/20 10:26:34 AM
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kind9 posted...
Was she ever really country? I always considered her a pop musician, but her earlier music at least had country influences. Maybe I'm just talking out my ass since I never listened to her.
She never sang about trucks or murdering her husband so no, she was never really country. I'm just saying none of her music in ten years has even had a passing resemblance.

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kind9
07/25/20 10:54:46 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
She never sang about trucks or murdering her husband so no
I don't think that is the defining characteristic of country music, but ok.

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Muscles
07/25/20 3:24:58 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Popular =/= automatically not good, either.

And in spite of what hipsters believe, "obscure as fuck" =/= good either.

There's definitely a tendency to dismiss any popular performer as being crap though, even when they're not. Whether you like her music or not (and no one is saying you have to), she's a more skilled musician and singer than pretty much anyone posting on PotD at the moment.

The reasons most people dislike her have very little to do with her actual music, and more to do with her as a person.
Ok, let's judge musicians by their artistic merit and leave popularity out of it, she sucks, there was huge bands like the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Michael Jackson, etc. that are all popular because they were good and had some originality. Today's pop music is trash though because they've taken the art out of it

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DirtBasedSoap
07/25/20 3:27:54 PM
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Muscles posted...
Ok, let's judge musicians by their artistic merit and leave popularity out of it, she sucks, there was huge bands like the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Michael Jackson, etc. that are all popular because they were good and had some originality. Today's pop music is trash though because they've taken the art out of it


pop music in the 70s sucked too dude

you might be the most generic person of all time

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Muscles
07/25/20 3:29:34 PM
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You really think bands like Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin suck?

If you have no taste you can just say that

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DirtBasedSoap
07/25/20 3:29:53 PM
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Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are not 70s pop music

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Muscles
07/25/20 3:32:51 PM
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I was talking about popularity, you don't have to be pop music to be popular

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DirtBasedSoap
07/25/20 3:33:22 PM
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Im so conflicted on zeppelin though

like yeah, jimmy page is amazing but also he and David Bowie tag-teamed 14 year olds all the time so that kinda taints it for me

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DirtBasedSoap
07/25/20 3:34:11 PM
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Muscles posted...
I was talking about popularity, you don't have to be pop music to be popular
okay but thats not what pop music means

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OhhhJa
07/25/20 3:35:07 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Popular =/= automatically not good, either.

And in spite of what hipsters believe, "obscure as fuck" =/= good either.

There's definitely a tendency to dismiss any popular performer as being crap though, even when they're not. Whether you like her music or not (and no one is saying you have to), she's a more skilled musician and singer than pretty much anyone posting on PotD at the moment.

The reasons most people dislike her have very little to do with her actual music, and more to do with her as a person.
I agree with you but a large part of why she and other pop musicians are propelled into fame is because they're highly attractive. Take Taylor swift and add 100 lbs and she'd be a nobody. You have to have extraordinary talent like Adele to be famous and not look like a model. But even then, Adele wasn't that unattractive either while a little on the heavy side
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Muscles
07/25/20 3:41:04 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
Im so conflicted on zeppelin though

like yeah, jimmy page is amazing but also he and David Bowie tag-teamed 14 year olds all the time so that kinda taints it for me
You can separate the art from the artist and enjoy the music while also not supporting the artist

DirtBasedSoap posted...
okay but thats not what pop music means
Pop music is a genre, and doesn't necessarily have to be the most popular thing around, did I imply otherwise?

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DirtBasedSoap
07/25/20 3:44:11 PM
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Muscles posted...
did I imply otherwise?
yeah, when you tried to use Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin as examples of how much better pop music was back then when they werent pop at all back then

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DirtBasedSoap
07/25/20 3:45:29 PM
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Muscles
07/25/20 3:47:30 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
yeah, when you tried to use Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin as examples of how much better pop music was back then when they werent pop at all back then
That comparison was simply talented artists that were also really popular to show you can be popular and good, not specifically the genre of pop music

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DirtBasedSoap
07/25/20 3:48:09 PM
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okay well youre mixing up definitions

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OhhhJa
07/25/20 3:48:21 PM
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Muscles posted...
You can separate the art from the artist and enjoy the music while also not supporting the artist
This is somewhat intellectually dishonest though. Understanding the artist behind the art is important too. You can enjoy music without knowing the artist but I'd argue you're missing an important component of the piece as a whole. Art is culturally significant and therefore disregarding the cultural origin and background of the artist is to miss an integral part of the art itself
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Revelation34
07/25/20 3:55:56 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
Im so conflicted on zeppelin though

like yeah, jimmy page is amazing but also he and David Bowie tag-teamed 14 year olds all the time so that kinda taints it for me


Who gives a shit? That's has nothing to do with the music. Separate the art from the artist.
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Muscles
07/25/20 3:56:24 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
okay well youre mixing up definitions
What should I have said instead of popular? Because Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are huge culturally

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OhhhJa
07/25/20 3:58:10 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Who gives a shit? That's has nothing to do with the music. Separate the art from the artist.
This is lazy though and you have to draw the line somewhere. For instance, you don't want to disregard the artists views if they are, for instance, a neo nazi and fund white supremacist organizations because then you are also funding them by association
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