Poll of the Day > Have you guys listened to Taylor Swift's new album yet?

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Revelation34 07/26/20 3:46:49 PM #101:	JigsawTDC posted... Not at all. As I said, I love Funkadelic (got to see George Clinton play Maggot Brain live once!!), King Crimson, Pink Floyd, a lot of math rock and mathcore, and even some classical music, particularly for their virtuosity (as well as other elements). I like a lot of metal for its combination of virtuosity, production, and aesthetics. I can recognize the virtuosity of someone like Yngwie Malmsteen while still finding his music insufferable. I think this all is largely irrelevant to your initial point though. You can recognize virtuosity in music while finding "artistic merit" in other works as well. Is that rock performed by math teachers? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:942613487] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>JigsawTDC posted...</cite> <quote> Not at all. As I said, I love Funkadelic (got to see George Clinton play Maggot Brain live once!!), King Crimson, Pink Floyd, a lot of math rock and mathcore, and even some classical music, particularly for their virtuosity (as well as other elements). I like a lot of metal for its combination of virtuosity, production, and aesthetics. I can recognize the virtuosity of someone like Yngwie Malmsteen while still finding his music insufferable. I think this all is largely irrelevant to your initial point though. You can recognize virtuosity in music while finding "artistic merit" in other works as well. </quote> Is that rock performed by math teachers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 07/26/20 3:48:00 PM #102:	Revelation34 posted... Is that rock performed by math teachers? its music with really unusual time signatures --- Every man with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:942613522] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>Is that rock performed by math teachers?</quote>its music with really unusual time signatures </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 07/26/20 3:57:54 PM #103:	DirtBasedSoap posted... okay, way to miss the point. what Im saying is that complexion/simplicity is subjective when it comes to music and isnt inherently good or bad That's why I keep bringing up points to agree with that, Blink 182 is simple but I love them, AC/DC is simple but I love them, Weezer is simple but I love them, there isn't anything wrong with liking simple artists, like 95% of artists of all genres (outside of classical/orchestral) aren't that complex, including most of what I listen to We should judge personal preference on a different scale from proficiency but a lot of people just like to insert favorite artist is the greatest It's like if your favorite player was CP3 so you said he was the greatest --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:942613866] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>DirtBasedSoap posted... </cite> <quote>okay, way to miss the point. what Im saying is that complexion/simplicity is subjective when it comes to music and isnt inherently good or bad</quote>That's why I keep bringing up points to agree with that, Blink 182 is simple but I love them, AC/DC is simple but I love them, Weezer is simple but I love them, there isn't anything wrong with liking simple artists, like 95% of artists of all genres (outside of classical/orchestral) aren't that complex, including most of what I listen to We should judge personal preference on a different scale from proficiency but a lot of people just like to insert favorite artist is the greatest It's like if your favorite player was CP3 so you said he was the greatest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 07/26/20 4:02:53 PM #104:	no one is saying that Taylor Swift is the greatest though --- Every man with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:942614042] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>no one is saying that Taylor Swift is the greatest though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JigsawTDC 07/26/20 4:10:10 PM #105:	Muscles posted... That's why I keep bringing up points to agree with that, Blink 182 is simple but I love them, AC/DC is simple but I love them, Weezer is simple but I love them, there isn't anything wrong with liking simple artists, like 95% of artists of all genres (outside of classical/orchestral) aren't that complex, including most of what I listen to We should judge personal preference on a different scale from proficiency but a lot of people just like to insert favorite artist is the greatest Why should everyone go by your personal metrics in defining what they view as great? One person can think Taylor Swift is the greatest, another can think Beethoven is the greatest. Neither is wrong, it's just that those two people find greatness in different things. Technical proficiency in musicianship isn't the only thing that can qualify a musician as great. <cite>JigsawTDC posted [p:942614333] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>That's why I keep bringing up points to agree with that, Blink 182 is simple but I love them, AC/DC is simple but I love them, Weezer is simple but I love them, there isn't anything wrong with liking simple artists, like 95% of artists of all genres (outside of classical/orchestral) aren't that complex, including most of what I listen to We should judge personal preference on a different scale from proficiency but a lot of people just like to insert favorite artist is the greatest</quote> Why should everyone go by your personal metrics in defining what they view as great? One person can think Taylor Swift is the greatest, another can think Beethoven is the greatest. Neither is wrong, it's just that those two people find greatness in different things. Technical proficiency in musicianship isn't the only thing that can qualify a musician as great. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I_Always_Die 07/26/20 4:14:55 PM #106:	good point. why do people saying Led Zeppelin is the greatest when Mozart and Beethoven were way more technically skilled? its like they know nothing about music! @Muscles --- 2x Reddit Platinum recipient 4x Reddit Gold recipient <cite>I_Always_Die posted [p:942614494] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>good point. why do people saying Led Zeppelin is the greatest when Mozart and Beethoven were way more technically skilled? its like they know nothing about music! @Muscles </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 07/26/20 4:22:19 PM #107:	I_Always_Die posted... good point. why do people saying Led Zeppelin is the greatest when Mozart and Beethoven were way more technically skilled? its like they know nothing about music! @Muscles I have repeatedly said that classical is the best most skilled genre, but I guess you got me Led Zeppelin is still in the elite tier, they were all virtuosos --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:942614741] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>I_Always_Die posted... </cite> <quote>good point. why do people saying Led Zeppelin is the greatest when Mozart and Beethoven were way more technically skilled? its like they know nothing about music! @Muscles</quote>I have repeatedly said that classical is the best most skilled genre, but I guess you got me Led Zeppelin is still in the elite tier, they were all virtuosos </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 07/26/20 4:30:35 PM #108:	Muscles posted... Led Zeppelin is still in the elite tier, they were all virtuosos they stole the blues from poor black people but I guess you dont really have a point other than guuuuuyyyysss Led Zeppelin is good and Taylor Swift suuuuucks --- Every man with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:942614965] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Led Zeppelin is still in the elite tier, they were all virtuosos</quote>they stole the blues from poor black people but I guess you dont really have a point other than guuuuuyyyysss Led Zeppelin is good and Taylor Swift suuuuucks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 07/26/20 4:40:56 PM #109:	Led zeppelin actually really weren't that great of players. Not even compared to their contemporaries. A lot of their contemporaries mocked them <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:942615273] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>Led zeppelin actually really weren't that great of players. Not even compared to their contemporaries. A lot of their contemporaries mocked them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 07/26/20 4:42:24 PM #110:	OhhhJa posted... Led zeppelin actually really weren't that great of players. Not even compared to their contemporaries. A lot of their contemporaries mocked them idk man... that band really fucking rocked. I have that O2 Arena show from like 2009 and they still kill it as old men. --- Every man with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:942615315] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Led zeppelin actually really weren't that great of players. Not even compared to their contemporaries. A lot of their contemporaries mocked them</quote>idk man... that band really fucking rocked. I have that O2 Arena show from like 2009 and they still kill it as old men. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 07/26/20 4:43:51 PM #111:	Modern music taste is so trash, that's why Led Zeppelin doesn't make any more albums --- https://imgtc.com/i/sIhpHts.jpg <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:942615375] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>Modern music taste is so trash, that's why Led Zeppelin doesn't make any more albums </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 07/26/20 4:44:10 PM #112:	DirtBasedSoap posted... idk man... that band really fucking rocked. I have that O2 Arena show from like 2009 and they still kill it as old men. They were definitely very competent players but I don't know if I'd call them virtuosos. There were plenty of dudes around then that could play circles around Bonham and especially page <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:942615388] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>DirtBasedSoap posted... </cite> <quote>idk man... that band really fucking rocked. I have that O2 Arena show from like 2009 and they still kill it as old men.</quote>They were definitely very competent players but I don't know if I'd call them virtuosos. There were plenty of dudes around then that could play circles around Bonham and especially page </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 07/26/20 4:45:23 PM #113:	name someone who could play circles around page i dont think hes the best of all time but hes definitely among the greatest im talking live performances, not studio shit page could shred like a motherfucker by himself and did often --- Every man with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:942615430] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>name someone who could play circles around page i dont think hes the best of all time but hes definitely among the greatest im talking live performances, not studio shit page could shred like a motherfucker by himself and did often </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 07/26/20 4:48:57 PM #114:	DirtBasedSoap posted... name someone who could play circles around page i dont think hes the best of all time but hes definitely among the greatest im talking live performances, not studio shit page could shred like a motherfucker by himself and did often I mean... pretty much any of the jazz fusion/prog guitarists around the late 60s and early 70s (except for maybe lifeson who was pretty overrated). They were all extremely skilled and could shred for days Page is also known for being sloppy <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:942615547] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>DirtBasedSoap posted... </cite> <quote>name someone who could play circles around page i dont think hes the best of all time but hes definitely among the greatest im talking live performances, not studio shit page could shred like a motherfucker by himself and did often</quote>I mean... pretty much any of the jazz fusion/prog guitarists around the late 60s and early 70s (except for maybe lifeson who was pretty overrated). They were all extremely skilled and could shred for days Page is also known for being sloppy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 07/26/20 4:53:05 PM #115:	give me an example though OhhhJa posted... being sloppy thats kind of a blues guitarist thing though. its more about the feel than hitting every not perfectly every time. Most of their solos are improv in pentatonic scales and that kinda lends itself to sounding sloppy --- Every man with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:942615695] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>give me an example though OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>being sloppy</quote>thats kind of a blues guitarist thing though. its more about the feel than hitting every not perfectly every time. Most of their solos are improv in pentatonic scales and that kinda lends itself to sounding sloppy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 07/26/20 5:02:21 PM #116:	Robert Fripp, Steve Howe, John Goodsall, both Beck and Clapton, Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:942616020] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>Robert Fripp, Steve Howe, John Goodsall, both Beck and Clapton, Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 07/26/20 5:03:10 PM #117:	OhhhJa posted... Beck and Clapton, Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan Hendrix is the best, the rest are at about equal skill level. None of them could play circles around page. --- Every man with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:942616050] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Beck and Clapton, Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan</quote>Hendrix is the best, the rest are at about equal skill level. None of them could play circles around page. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JigsawTDC 07/26/20 5:19:36 PM #118:	god this thread went in the completely wrong direction. I wanted to talk about Taylor Swift's new album, not who the best guitar player from a few decades ago was lol <cite>JigsawTDC posted [p:942616624] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>god this thread went in the completely wrong direction. I wanted to talk about Taylor Swift's new album, not who the best guitar player from a few decades ago was lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 07/26/20 5:22:52 PM #119:	Tom morello --- Every man with a microphone thinks he can tell you what he loves the most <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:942616748] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>Tom morello </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KJ StErOiDs 07/26/20 5:26:46 PM #120:	I've never really listened to Taylor Swift, but since you deem this an improvement over her previous albums I'll check out some songs - maybe the ones Clench mentioned on the first page. --- A plethora of DKC-related fanart to numb your mind: http://kjsteroids.deviantart.com <cite>KJ StErOiDs posted [p:942616892] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>I've never really listened to Taylor Swift, but since you deem this an improvement over her previous albums I'll check out some songs - maybe the ones Clench mentioned on the first page. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JigsawTDC 07/26/20 5:46:24 PM #121:	KJ StErOiDs posted... I've never really listened to Taylor Swift, but since you deem this an improvement over her previous albums I'll check out some songs - maybe the ones Clench mentioned on the first page. If you're only going to check out a few songs, I'd also Mirrorball to the list Clench gave! <cite>JigsawTDC posted [p:942617590] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>KJ StErOiDs posted... </cite> <quote>I've never really listened to Taylor Swift, but since you deem this an improvement over her previous albums I'll check out some songs - maybe the ones Clench mentioned on the first page.</quote> If you're only going to check out a few songs, I'd also Mirrorball to the list Clench gave! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroofDark 07/26/20 6:40:38 PM #122:	I listened to about half of it so far, it's decent but I'm not digging it that much. Tbh I got into it solely b/c of Aaron Dessner's involvement, since I'm a fan of The National, and he sure knows how to produce sad songs. --- Life's no fun if you take it seriously. <cite>HeroofDark posted [p:942619490] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>I listened to about half of it so far, it's decent but I'm not digging it that much. Tbh I got into it solely b/c of Aaron Dessner's involvement, since I'm a fan of The National, and he sure knows how to produce sad songs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KJ StErOiDs 07/26/20 7:09:38 PM #123:	Well instead of the flashy pop sound I was expecting, these songs had a softer, down-to-earth sound that reminded me more of Paula Cole. They're not songs I'd listen to regularly but they're not bad. Exile is my favorite of the songs. --- A plethora of DKC-related fanart to numb your mind: http://kjsteroids.deviantart.com <cite>KJ StErOiDs posted [p:942620419] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>Well instead of the flashy pop sound I was expecting, these songs had a softer, down-to-earth sound that reminded me more of Paula Cole. They're not songs I'd listen to regularly but they're not bad. Exile is my favorite of the songs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 07/26/20 8:26:33 PM #124:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Whether you like her music or not (and no one is saying you have to), she's a more skilled musician and singer than pretty much anyone posting on PotD at the moment. Anyone is free to judge a celebrity despite said celebrity been better then said person at what they do because said celebrity has not only put themselves in the public eye but they try and sell you on what they decided to do with their life. I don't listen to Taylor Swift and won't bother with this album but if some folk think she's shit then that's perfectly fine. Just as it's fine for you to complain about people who are better than you at what they do. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:942622988] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>Whether you like her music or not (and no one is saying you have to), she's a more skilled musician and singer than pretty much anyone posting on PotD at the moment.</quote> Anyone is free to judge a celebrity despite said celebrity been better then said person at what they do because said celebrity has not only put themselves in the public eye but they try and sell you on what they decided to do with their life. I don't listen to Taylor Swift and won't bother with this album but if some folk think she's shit then that's perfectly fine. Just as it's fine for you to complain about people who are better than you at what they do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Em_gai 07/26/20 9:16:03 PM #125:	This made me sad. I used to count down days to her albums. didnt even know she had a new one. <cite>Em_gai posted [p:942624803] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>This made me sad. I used to count down days to her albums. didnt even know she had a new one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JigsawTDC 07/30/20 2:02:08 AM #126:	Em_gai posted... This made me sad. I used to count down days to her albums. didnt even know she had a new one. I mean, to be fair, I think this one was dropped within 24 hours of its announcement. <cite>JigsawTDC posted [p:942763841] in Have you g... [t:78869484]...</cite> <quote>Em_gai posted... </cite> <quote>This made me sad. I used to count down days to her albums. didnt even know she had a new one.</quote> I mean, to be fair, I think this one was dropped within 24 hours of its announcement. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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