Current Events > So after his recent interview, its confirmed Joe Rogan is a Transphobe

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BeantownHero
07/22/20 10:41:54 AM
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https://twitter.com/AlexPattyy/status/1285669830906044416?s=19


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Obstacle2
07/22/20 10:43:32 AM
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if you ever thought Bro Rogaine was a supporter of trans rights then iono what to tell u g

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hockeybub89
07/22/20 10:43:35 AM
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onedarksoul
07/22/20 10:44:00 AM
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We are all alt-right now.

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ASithLord7
07/22/20 10:45:21 AM
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onedarksoul posted...
We are all alt-right now.
Nah just people like you who praise stormtroopers kidnapping citizens for exercising their rights

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hockeybub89
07/22/20 10:46:27 AM
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onedarksoul posted...
We are all alt-right now.
No, just people that hate the LGBT community for having the gall to be born that way

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CADE FOSTER
07/22/20 10:47:40 AM
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imagine paying this shit head 100 mill he should be shunned not paid
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Herodopus
07/22/20 10:48:00 AM
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He's been openly transphobic for years man
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ZeroX91
07/22/20 10:50:23 AM
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Didnt watch that but he is 100% right about male to female trasitioners cheating if they play in womens leagues. Hormones dont change bone and muscle structure. On the flipside Female to Male playing in male leagues is playing on hardmode and that shit is commendable.

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AlephZero
07/22/20 10:51:11 AM
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i'm shocked that an alt right icon is transphobic

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BeantownHero
07/22/20 10:52:12 AM
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Herodopus posted...
He's been openly transphobic for years man

I'll admit, I dont follow his work all that close. He comes across as the dude everyone let's ramble on at house parties because it's at his place

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FreezerDoor
07/22/20 10:54:08 AM
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Herodopus posted...
He's been openly transphobic for years man

This. He has always been against trans women fighting cisgender women.

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Reality_check
07/22/20 10:56:47 AM
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I told you.

rogaine would start funny end and reasonable and gradually get more and more alt right as time passed
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Poop2
07/22/20 10:58:29 AM
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if you actually watched the podcast he really just bashes on children being pushed to go trans.

not adults or even older teens.
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hockeybub89
07/22/20 10:58:32 AM
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ZeroX91 posted...
Didnt watch that but he is 100% right about male to female trasitioners cheating if they play in womens leagues. Hormones dont change bone and muscle structure. On the flipside Female to Male playing in male leagues is playing on hardmode and that shit is commendable.
FTM "Nice man"
MTF "Fuck you don't play sports, you cheating MAN!"

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Romes187
07/22/20 10:59:58 AM
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yeah that ladies theory is basically that young girls are transitioning at a very high rate and this is just a move from cutting or eating disorders to something else.

she said she spoke with over 5000 parents that this has happened to which is p crazy.

Anyway good listen if you actually want to explore it. Otherwise, its a good headline to get angry at without hearing the arguments so you can do that too. Either way I don't really care
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hockeybub89
07/22/20 11:00:48 AM
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Poop2 posted...
if you actually watched the podcast he really just bashes on children being pushed to go trans.

not adults or even older teens.
I guess we should bash pediatrics because sometimes crazy adults push Munchausen by proxy.

Children don't go trans. They simply are, and we shouldn't completely ignore them until they are adults just because some crazy parents want to abuse their non-trans children.

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Cobra1010
07/22/20 11:01:04 AM
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Who is this joe rogan guy and why is he popping up on my internet all of a sudden?

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Poop2
07/22/20 11:03:19 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I guess we should bash pediatrics because sometimes crazy adults push Munchausen by proxy.

Children don't go trans. They simply are, and we shouldn't completely ignore them until they are adults just because some crazy parents want to abuse their non-trans children.

Weird how accepted open hate of LGBT people is, but let's flip the hell out about the "black supremacy" of saying Black Lives Matter.
i dont think being concerned about children changing their sexual organs and taking hormones means you "hate" trans people.
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Herodopus
07/22/20 11:04:49 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
Who is this joe rogan guy and why is he popping up on my internet all of a sudden? Pretty sure i never heard of him until around ayear ago, then im seeing his name like at least once a fortnight
he's the guy from Fear Factor. He went bald and turned into a conspiracy theorist
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josifrees
07/22/20 11:04:53 AM
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if you arent old enough to legally consent to sex you arent old enough to make decisions on transsexuality

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TommyG663513
07/22/20 11:04:54 AM
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Damn this dude has politics that lean pretty hard to the right! Who could have thought the guy from a show where people ate elk penis would have an off putting opinion.

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CADE FOSTER
07/22/20 11:04:56 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
Who is this joe rogan guy and why is he popping up on my internet all of a sudden? Pretty sure i never heard of him until around ayear ago, then im seeing his name like at least once a fortnight

Alt right loon pretending to be a libertarian
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bobbysjoby2
07/22/20 11:05:48 AM
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ZeroX91 posted...
Didnt watch that but he is 100% right about male to female trasitioners cheating if they play in womens leagues. Hormones dont change bone and muscle structure. On the flipside Female to Male playing in male leagues is playing on hardmode and that shit is commendable.

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hockeybub89
07/22/20 11:07:45 AM
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josifrees posted...
if you arent old enough to legally consent to sex you arent old enough to make decisions on transsexuality
Ah so children should simply be ignored by doctors until the age of 18 because they can't make decisions all by themselves. Someone better tell those doctors that work with children to stop their agenda.

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Jagr_68
07/22/20 11:08:57 AM
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AlephZero posted...
i'm shocked that an alt right icon is transphobic

He and his entire MMA conspiracy theorist circle are. It's been long overdue Alt Right Rogaine stopped being a bitch and just admitted his true political ideology.

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BeantownHero
07/22/20 11:09:22 AM
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josifrees posted...
if you arent old enough to legally consent to sex you arent old enough to make decisions on transsexuality

what medical evidence are you basing this on?

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TommyG663513
07/22/20 11:10:03 AM
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Poop2 posted...
i dont think being concerned about children changing their sexual organs and taking hormones means you "hate" trans people.

Yes it does. Why else would you have a problem with it? Why would their decisions have an effect on you?

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hockeybub89
07/22/20 11:10:07 AM
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Poop2 posted...
i dont think being concerned about children changing their sexual organs and taking hormones means you "hate" trans people.
If only it was possible for doctors to be involved in the process of deciding medical care for ailing people. That would save a lot of trouble.

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CruelBuffalo
07/22/20 11:10:27 AM
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Poop2 posted...
i dont think being concerned about children changing their sexual organs and taking hormones means you "hate" trans people.

are you a medical doctor or a psychiatrist?
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ZeroX91
07/22/20 11:10:42 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
FTM "Nice man"
MTF "Fuck you don't play sports, you cheating MAN!"
The hormone injections dont magically make you the other you still have the body structre of a man (ignoring boneshaving in the face) you have a factual advantage over ciswomen, which is why FTM in the sports field is impressive they have to work a helluva lot harder. You know unless you wanna pretend we arent sexually dymorphic but then whats the point of reconstructive surgury?

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Romes187
07/22/20 11:11:18 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
If only it was possible for doctors to be involved in the process of deciding medical care for ailing people. That would save a lot of trouble.

you might find the interview interesting. They discuss these objections as well. You don't even have to agree. It's just an interesting conversation about something I didn't even know was a thing. Unfortunately anything about "trans" stuff is so lame to talk about because everyone is annoying
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hockeybub89
07/22/20 11:12:04 AM
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ZeroX91 posted...
The hoemone injections dont magically make you the other you still have the body structre of a man (ignoring boneshaving in the face) you have a factual advantage over ciswomen, which is why FTM in the sports field is impressive they have to work a helluva lot harder. You know unless you wanna pretend we arent sexually dymorphic but then whats the point of reconstructive surgury?
So everyone can play sports except trans women? They need to choose between playing sports and being women?

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Romes187
07/22/20 11:13:05 AM
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or not
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ZeroX91
07/22/20 11:14:30 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
So everyone can play sports except trans women? They need to choose between playing sports and being women?
Just dont play in the women's leagues, or make a trans league, or a nongendered league, but dont start playing in the WNBA.

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hockeybub89
07/22/20 11:14:35 AM
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Romes187 posted...
Unfortunately anything about "trans" stuff is so lame to talk about because everyone is annoying
Replace trans with a race and suddenly you're making an extremely questionable argument. Weird how socially accepted certain bigotries are. "But the world is so accepting! There is no systemic anything!"

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Romes187
07/22/20 11:16:38 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Replace trans with a race and suddenly you're making an extremely questionable argument. Weird how socially accepted certain bigotries are. "But the world is so accepting! There is no systemic anything!"

Oh easily

Unfortunately anything about "race" stuff is so lame to talk about because everyone is annoying

This is such a strange thing to bring up in this topic. I have to imagine its because you didn't have a response to anything else (like...as in, watch the interview you might find it interesting) so you try to shift the conversation around race, where you can try to label me as a racist maybe?

I dunno, explain your sophistry please
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gunplagirl
07/22/20 11:18:01 AM
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Trans people have been saying for years he's a transphobe but now that a cis person said he's a transphobe it's all good and everyone can finally agree.

Oh, and look at all the transphobes in this topic who don't know a damn thing about transgender people, science, or the process of medical treatment with regards to the age of the patient.

hockeybub89 posted...
Replace trans with a race and suddenly you're making an extremely questionable argument. Weird how socially accepted certain bigotries are. "But the world is so accepting! There is no systemic anything!"
They'll call you racist for comparing being trans to a race but they'll also give a really crappy excuse for why the comparison isn't able to be drawn. And yeah, if they ever answered in depth it would still come down to them not thinking trans people are valid.

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bobbysjoby2
07/22/20 11:18:20 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
So everyone can play sports except trans women? They need to choose between playing sports and being women?
so you're cool with Fallon Fox literally breaking womens faces in underground MMA fights?
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gunplagirl
07/22/20 11:19:03 AM
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Romes187 posted...

Proved my point before I even posted :l

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Herodopus
07/22/20 11:19:22 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Proved my point before I even posted :l
That's what he was trying to do
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COVxy
07/22/20 11:19:38 AM
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Why not actually listen to the experts in these fields, rather than some untrained individual selling a book?

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Romes187
07/22/20 11:19:41 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Proved my point before I even posted :l

I'm sorry I don't understand what question you asked me.

Can you ask again? I would be more than happy to clarify any of my viewpoints for you
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cuttin_in_farm
07/22/20 11:19:58 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Replace trans with a race and suddenly you're making an extremely questionable argument. Weird how socially accepted certain bigotries are. "But the world is so accepting! There is no systemic anything!"

No, hes right. Trans discussion is annoying because everyone is immediately defensive, always dismissive if the point discussed isnt 100% pro-trans no matter the context, and devolves into straw manning.

A kid cant even get a tattoo that they dont regret a year later. Surely kids transitioning isnt so black and white as people think.

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BeantownHero
07/22/20 11:20:49 AM
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COVxy posted...
Why not actually listen to the experts in these fields, rather than some untrained individual selling a book?

people seem to resonate with Rogan and by proxy, the guests he has on his show.

Why that is, is another discussion


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Romes187
07/22/20 11:21:03 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...


No, hes right. Trans discussion is annoying because everyone is immediately defensive, always dismissive if the point discussed isnt 100% pro-trans no matter the context, and devolves into straw manning.

A kid cant even get a tattoo that they dont regret a year later. Surely kids transitioning isnt so black and white as people think.

Man at least someone here can fucking read a post. Thank you
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gunplagirl
07/22/20 11:22:45 AM
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bobbysjoby2 posted...
so you're cool with Fallon Fox literally breaking womens faces in underground MMA fights?
It was the one, and she still ended up losing a match in her career.

And hey

https://tinyurl.com/madafakawryyyyyy
Facial injuries in boxing aren't rare at all

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hockeybub89
07/22/20 11:25:57 AM
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Romes187 posted...
Oh easily

Unfortunately anything about "race" stuff is so lame to talk about because everyone is annoying

This is such a strange thing to bring up in this topic. I have to imagine its because you didn't have a response to anything else (like...as in, watch the interview you might find it interesting) so you try to shift the conversation around race, where you can try to label me as a racist maybe?

I dunno, explain your sophistry please
I'm saying that 95% of accepted opinions that "disagree" with the LGBT population, would be unacceptable if the subject became a race, gender, or even a non-ideological aspect like religion. It is far more socially permitted to make ignorant remarks about "trans" or "gay" stuff. People want to make all kinds of excuses for why it's different than racism, but that's all bullshit.

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AsucaHayashi
07/22/20 11:26:44 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
No, hes right. Trans discussion is annoying because everyone is immediately defensive, always dismissive if the point discussed isnt 100% pro-trans no matter the context, and devolves into straw manning.

A kid cant even get a tattoo that they dont regret a year later. Surely kids transitioning isnt so black and white as people think.

this reminds me of the dave chappelle LGBT car bit. everybody respects the Ts but everybody also resents the Ts for making the trip take much longer xd.

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gunplagirl
07/22/20 11:27:29 AM
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Herodopus posted...
That's what he was trying to do
Indeed

COVxy posted...
Why not actually listen to the experts in these fields, rather than some untrained individual selling a book?
Because they're bigots who are unwilling to listen to anything that might make them have to reevaluate their assumption that they're right.

cuttin_in_farm posted...


No, hes right. Trans discussion is annoying because everyone is immediately defensive, always dismissive if the point discussed isnt 100% pro-trans no matter the context, and devolves into straw manning.

A kid cant even get a tattoo that they dont regret a year later. Surely kids transitioning isnt so black and white as people think.
This comparison just shows you have no idea how much gatekeeping there is for transgender people to receive any medical intervention. Much less how much more there is for minors.

No kid would accidentally end up on hormones, at most they'll spend months (or in places like the UK and Australia, years) waiting for appointments where they have to convince doctors, therapists, and sometimes even a judge that their identity is valid, consistent, and THEN after more waiting they'll get put on puberty blockers whose effects are completely reversible.

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