Poll of the Day > 'Karen' sues Starbucks employee for his 'GoFundMe' handout...

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https://news.yahoo.com/california-woman-refused-wear-face-105828235.html

Do you think she deserved some of his new found $$$ based on his/her altercation?

Lol. She had a chiropractor write her a note.

Old news.

pionear posted...

Do you think she deserved some of his new found $$$ based on his/her altercation?

I don't think anybody deserved money over that.

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DrBoneCrusher posted...

Lol. She had a chiropractor write her a note.

was it you Dr Bone Crusher?

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She's gone from Karen to Plaid.

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Zeus posted...

I don't think anybody deserved money over that.

The money's being treated as tips, mostly. They're giving the guy money because they like how he served his customer. I would agree that he didn't really do anything to earn $100,000, but I'm also in no place to suggest that he doesn't deserve money that people are willingly giving to him.

She, on the other hand, has had no money willingly given to her, meaning she deserves nothing. This suit is a desperate cry for attention and it's kind of hilarious how thoroughly her lawyer is taking her for a ride.

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WhiskeyDisk posted...

She's gone from Karen to Plaid.

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adjl posted...

They're giving the guy money because they like how he served his customer. I would agree that he didn't really do anything to earn $100,000, but I'm also in no place to suggest that he doesn't deserve money that people are willingly giving to him.

This... Theyre tips and the customers believe he deserves it. So, its his. Karen can fuck off, though...
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I've donated to het GoFundMe. Discrimination is bad and the maskless are people too. I thought Starbucks would be past this with their multiple bouts with sensitivity training.

Don't companies have a right to refuse service?

This case won't go anywhere.

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adjl posted...

The money's being treated as tips, mostly. They're giving the guy money because they like how he served his customer. I would agree that he didn't really do anything to earn $100,000, but I'm also in no place to suggest that he doesn't deserve money that people are willingly giving to him.

She, on the other hand, has had no money willingly given to her, meaning she deserves nothing. This suit is a desperate cry for attention and it's kind of hilarious how thoroughly her lawyer is taking her for a ride.

This was basically my stance the other time I saw this come up tbh.

Whether or not he deserves it is immaterial honestly. People decided he was worth giving their money to. It's not my place to tell people what to spend their money on.

They did not, however, give him the money expecting it to go to her. If they wanted her to have money, they would have given her money. Simple.

SeahorseCpt89 posted...

Don't companies have a right to refuse service?

With some caveats. Refusing service on the basis of a disability that can reasonably be accommodated generally doesn't fly, so there might be a case against Starbucks for discrimination there. That's a big "might," though, since there's a very easy case to be made that not being able to wear a mask endangers staff and other customers too much to justify giving her such a non-essential service, plus it doesn't sound like she has a particularly legitimate disability (not to gatekeep disabilities, but generally speaking, a doctor's note should come from somebody with "doctor" in their professional title).

SeahorseCpt89 posted...

This case won't go anywhere.

This, however, is definitely true, because she's not suing Starbucks as a whole. She's suing one barista for following corporate policy. He doesn't have the authority to undermine said policy if he feels it's discriminatory (she could potentially have grounds to sue if he were fired for trying to do so) nor is it his responsibility to make such judgement calls. She's just butthurt that the world likes him better than her and is lashing out by suing the person she blames for all of it.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

They did not, however, give him the money expecting it to go to her. If they wanted her to have money, they would have given her money. Simple.

In the extremely unlikely case that she actually wins this suit for "half of his gofundme earnings," I really hope everyone who donated rescinds their donation so that "half of it" becomes $0, then donates via a new gofundme so he still gets the money and she gets none of it. That would just be hilarious.

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adjl posted...

She's just butthurt that the world likes him better than her and is lashing out by suing the person she blames for all of it.

Well that and she probably thinks it's easy money, let's be real.

ChaosAzeroth posted...

Well that and she probably thinks it's easy money, let's be real.

Her lawyer probably told her it was, and she was desperate enough to find somebody to blame other than herself that she latched onto that as truth.

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Far-Queue posted...

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It is her fault the internet gave him $100k. Surely, Karen deserves something. Maybe he'll buy her a coffee from 7-11.

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^And buy a lotto ticket and hope to win money from that.

But damn, if I got $100K for everytime I encounter rude people at my jobs (like the other server chick who got $80K from GFM), I'll be richer than Gates and Bezos combined.

adjl posted...

This suit is a desperate cry for attention and it's kind of hilarious how thoroughly her lawyer is taking her for a ride.

Her lawyers are exploiting her for money. They know her lawsuit is frivolous but they file it anyway. They're evil bastards.

adjl posted...

With some caveats. Refusing service on the basis of a disability that can reasonably be accommodated generally doesn't fly, so there might be a case against Starbucks for discrimination there. That's a big "might," though, since there's a very easy case to be made that not being able to wear a mask endangers staff and other customers too much to justify giving her such a non-essential service, plus it doesn't sound like she has a particularly legitimate disability (not to gatekeep disabilities, but generally speaking, a doctor's note should come from somebody with "doctor" in their professional title).

Her "doctor" is a chiropractor, i.e. a quack. Chiropractic is pseudoscience. Her discriminatory case also doesn't hold, considering it would have been illegal for the barista to serve her, considering wearing a mask is mandatory in businesses in San Diego County.

That woman is obviously mentally ill. She also shows all the signs of histrionic personality disorder. "Karens" are basically the definition of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder

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Accrovideogames posted...

Her lawyers are exploiting her for money. They know her lawsuit is frivolous but they file it anyway. They're evil bastards.

Most lawyers won't file a lawsuit they know they can't win, unless they know their client has enough money to pay their bills without a settlement; otherwise, they're just throwing away cash. I'm not convinced someone as dumb as this Karen has enough money to meet that requirement.

I think these guys are hoping that Starbucks decides to settle out of court. A lot of big companies are willing to do that, because a settlement is cheaper than paying their own lawyers to fight the case all the way to a trial's conclusion. That being said, I think it's a poor gambit in this case, because there's a solid chance that this case would get dismissed long before a judgement was rendered.

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LinkPizza posted...

This... Theyre tips and the customers believe he deserves it. So, its his. Karen can fuck off, though...

I should get a job as a waiter and make a Gofundme since "they're just tips".
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Revelation34 posted...

I should get a job as a waiter and make a Gofundme since "they're just tips".

Hey, many waiters make over $100,000 in tips every year without having to resort to GoFundMe. On average, waiters make as much as a nurse. They don't even have a college degree and they're making a shit ton of money. Only North America does this.

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Revelation34 posted...

I should get a job as a waiter and make a Gofundme since "they're just tips".

You could. Though, you would still need to get people to donate. Its much easier when someone makes one for you after you go viral for a good reason...
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LinkPizza posted...

You could. Though, you would still need to get people to donate. Its much easier when someone makes one for you after you go viral for a good reason...

I was being sarcastic. They're not tips because those people donating have most likely never been to that Starbucks.
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Revelation34 posted...

I was being sarcastic. They're not tips because those people donating have most likely never been to that Starbucks.

You can still give tips. And I believe thats what they called it. You can give a tip without going somewhere. You normally dont, but you can...
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Revelation34 posted...

They're not tips because those people donating have most likely never been to that Starbucks.

It's money being voluntarily given to thank him for the service he provided. You don't have to receive the service yourself to tip somebody for it, as much as that is the custom.

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adjl posted...

It's money being voluntarily given to thank him for the service he provided. You don't have to receive the service yourself to tip somebody for it, as much as that is the custom.

You have to be physically there to put money in an actual tip jar.
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I give tips without going to the restaurant all the time.

Revelation34 posted...

You have to be physically there to put money in an actual tip jar.

You don't, however, have to physically be there to put money in a tip gofundme. It's remarkable what the current year not being 1963 has done for our ability to give money to people.

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adjl posted...

You don't, however, have to physically be there to put money in a tip gofundme. It's remarkable what the current year not being 1963 has done for our ability to give money to people.

A tip gofundme doesn't exist.
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Not in the corporeal sense, but the corporeal sense hasn't been a requirement for tipping since they invented cards.

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