Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 305: Where's the beef? With the police.

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Jakyl25
06/16/20 12:56:14 PM
#401:


Corrik7 posted...

I doubt he takes Texas.

I will say one of the things that makes voting for Biden a little easier for me is that he isn't going to be a 2 term president. I mean, I am not saying if he did a good job term 1 I would be against him term 2. But, I am saying that as far as undoing beneficial republican policies and his age definitely precluding him from a 2nd term, makes it easier to swallow if he does go after policies I think are good.


Do you think Dems can take the Senate, or have you not done that analysis
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Corrik7
06/16/20 12:56:45 PM
#402:


Jakyl25 posted...
Do you think Dems can take the Senate, or have you not done that analysis
I don't know what is up for grabs.

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Xeybozn
06/16/20 1:03:23 PM
#403:


SmartMuffin posted...
If the election was today, Biden would win Texas.

Trump would only win the very deep south, Wyoming, and maybe the Dakotas.

Biden is beating Trump, but he's nowhere near pulling off a Nixon/McGovern or Reagan/Mondale type map. There enough states farther right than Texas that Trump could lose Texas plus every state bluer and still win 20 states.

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DoomTheGyarados
06/16/20 1:07:52 PM
#404:


I will say it was a very bold strategy by Donald Trump to get people on the left to vote for Biden by doubling down on being literally evil.

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Wanglicious
06/16/20 1:08:12 PM
#405:


Corrik7 posted...
It is less of a border war and a Chinese landgrab if it goes to actual war, which it won't. They will ceasefire in a few weeks or so, in my estimate.

hopefully, yeah.
if this was by itself in a vacuum it'd probably end there but if this situation builds on itself at the same time as NK/SK are having their biannual spat on the DMZ and at the same time the West is busy with itself, it's worrisome as there's a limited check.

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UshiromiyaEva
06/16/20 1:09:33 PM
#406:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
I will say it was a very bold strategy by Donald Trump to get people on the left to vote for Biden by doubling down on being literally evil.

The church stunt is what clinched it for me.

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Wanglicious
06/16/20 1:10:20 PM
#407:


Corrik7 posted...


But two Indian security officials familiar with latest developments told The Associated Press that soldiers from the two sides engaged in fistfights and stone-throwing, which led to the casualties. Both said that no shots were fired by either side. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in keeping with government regulations.

....huh.
20+ dead, 43+ dead/injured by... stone chucking and fisticuffs?
they've either got some of the best stone throwers in the world or something ain't right here.

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Corrik7
06/16/20 1:10:48 PM
#408:


Wanglicious posted...
hopefully, yeah.
if this was by itself in a vacuum it'd probably end there but if this situation builds on itself at the same time as NK/SK are having their biannual spat on the DMZ and at the same time the West is busy with itself, it's worrisome as there's a limited check.
Well, they could view now as the president having too divided of a populace to be able to act. Which, if they deemed that, they would probably seize Hong Kong in completeness, Taiwan, and parts of India.

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Corrik7
06/16/20 1:11:44 PM
#409:


Wanglicious posted...
....huh.
20+ dead, 43+ dead/injured by... stone chucking and fisticuffs?
they've either got some of the best stone throwers in the world or something ain't right here.
That article said only 3 injured or dead Indians in it. To be fair, but it was from 30 minutes ago.

Plus, if I remember Alexander right, India might have an army of monkeys trained to throw stones at invaders also. Lol.

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Wanglicious
06/16/20 1:14:56 PM
#410:


they've already effectively gotten Hong Kong with the political takeover, that also "coincidentally" happened at the same time as we've been protesting. we already said that if they complete the takeover to the final step, we won't acknowledge it separately for tax purposes and the UK said they'd take in 3 mil HK refugees. closest pressure we could do under the circumstances.

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Peace___Frog
06/16/20 1:25:59 PM
#411:


Corrik7 posted...
the poor are more likely to commit crime
This is the funniest thing I've read in years

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TheRock1525
06/16/20 1:28:12 PM
#412:


SmartMuffin posted...
plenty of time for him to dig an even deeper hole

which seems more likely than digging his way out
"No, no, dig up, stupid!"

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UshiromiyaEva
06/16/20 1:30:01 PM
#413:


What a pathetic attempt to garner favor with that executive order, lol.

Also good job surrounding yourself with old white cops for it.

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UshiromiyaEva
06/16/20 1:53:52 PM
#414:


https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1271788985275355137?s=19

Curious that he waited until right after he retired and confirmed his pension.

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SmartMuffin
06/16/20 1:55:00 PM
#415:


Hes probably trying to join some sort of trendy country club or something.

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Peace___Frog
06/16/20 1:56:45 PM
#416:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Curious that he waited until right after he retired and confirmed his pension.
Gotta make sure you're on a solid financial footing before attracting the attention of the alt right masses

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Jakyl25
06/16/20 2:38:27 PM
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Dark Young Link
06/16/20 2:42:14 PM
#418:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1272942500630626304?s=21


Just sitting here waiting for Trump and the right to comment about this.

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Xeybozn
06/16/20 2:43:50 PM
#419:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1272942500630626304?s=21

But how do we know for sure that this guy isn't really a deep-cover Antifa agent who spent years infiltrating the Boogaloo movement just to make them look bad? Just to be safe, we should focus more on eliminating the BLM movement.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/16/20 3:04:09 PM
#420:


if jakyl doesn't somehow integrate "boogaloo" into the next topic title i'll be disappointed

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TotallyNotMI
06/16/20 3:05:50 PM
#421:


I only have 11 posts on page 8. I feel like that's a new record.

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MoogleKupo141
06/16/20 3:08:55 PM
#422:


fuck why did racists have to ruin breakin 2

I think I need to alter part of my steam profile so i dont appear associated with them
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ChaosTonyV4
06/16/20 4:29:54 PM
#423:


Wanglicious posted...
....huh.
20+ dead, 43+ dead/injured by... stone chucking and fisticuffs?
they've either got some of the best stone throwers in the world or something ain't right here.

Oh ok, so youre still capable of being skeptical of things


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MoogleKupo141
06/16/20 4:37:54 PM
#424:


Wanglicious posted...


....huh.
20+ dead, 43+ dead/injured by... stone chucking and fisticuffs?
they've either got some of the best stone throwers in the world or something ain't right here.


if one person can kill one person with a stone I dont see why a bunch of people cant kill a bunch of other people with a bunch of stones
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changmas
06/16/20 5:04:39 PM
#425:


https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1272701798957166593?s=21

Well? who will you call?

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UshiromiyaEva
06/16/20 5:07:07 PM
#426:


changmas posted...
https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/1272701798957166593?s=21

Well? who will you call?

This is made significantly better by him starting it with "I keep asking a simple question".

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MoogleKupo141
06/16/20 5:10:51 PM
#427:


Autonomous Spaghetti Block Party is the name of my Neutral Milk Hotel cover band
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KamikazePotato
06/16/20 5:13:28 PM
#428:


Oh my god the tweet was a direct quote, not a parody summary

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The Mana Sword
06/16/20 5:18:05 PM
#429:


knees weak, big block party spaghetti

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SmartMuffin
06/16/20 5:46:32 PM
#430:


Been thinking about this a bit, and coming to the conclusion that banning chokeholds is probably the only policy proposal to come out of all of this that I agree with and think will actually help in the long run.

I'm not sure it will reduce deaths by police, but it will reduce social unrest, because chokehold deaths inspire a lot more cop-hatred than shooting deaths do. For a wide variety of reasons, but mainly centered around the fact that a decision to shoot a gun is a split-second one that in most cases happens once, while a chokehold death is a continuous decision to apply deadly force without pause over a period of several minutes.

There may have been a moment during the whole encounter in which George Floyd represented a physical threat to the officer such that possibly-lethal violence was necessary. But by "minute two of being choked" that moment clearly did not exist anymore. He was clearly incapacitated at that point, such that the decision to continue to apply possibly-lethal violence definitely looks like an intentional act of callous disregard for human life, regardless of what was actually going through the officer's mind (which I still suspect was probably not "I really hope this guy dies underneath me right now")

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Palbatross
06/16/20 5:57:11 PM
#431:


Wanglicious posted...
....huh.
20+ dead, 43+ dead/injured by... stone chucking and fisticuffs?
they've either got some of the best stone throwers in the world or something ain't right here.

My suspicion is that "stone chucking and fisticuffs" is a line being pushed by both sides to allow a deescalation of the situation while saving face and avoiding blame on the international stage.

Which I hope happens, because this is probably the most terrifying thing I've read this year.

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Jakyl25
06/16/20 6:18:21 PM
#432:


SmartMuffin posted...
regardless of what was actually going through the officer's mind (which I still suspect was probably not "I really hope this guy dies underneath me right now")


Good thing thats not what hes being charged with
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Jakyl25
06/16/20 6:19:35 PM
#433:


Well, on some level, bullets are just crafted stones, and guns just produce a chemical reaction to aid in chucking them, right???
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LordoftheMorons
06/16/20 6:23:47 PM
#434:


Polling averages:

https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1272894207959728132?s=21

FL is the tipping point state based on those.

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GildedFool
06/16/20 6:25:04 PM
#435:


Jakyl25 posted...
Well, on some level, bullets are just crafted stones, and guns just produce a chemical reaction to aid in chucking them, right???
There are many Indian cricket players specifically noted for their explosive throwing action.

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UshiromiyaEva
06/16/20 6:59:32 PM
#436:


SmartMuffin posted...
Been thinking about this a bit, and coming to the conclusion that banning chokeholds is probably the only policy proposal to come out of all of this that I agree with and think will actually help in the long run.

Chokeholds were already banned in his county to begin with, it's a pointless EO.

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Jakyl25
06/16/20 7:09:18 PM
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Mr Lasastryke
06/16/20 7:14:51 PM
#438:


it's not just any scientists, it's scientists trump dealt with

because they were infused with trump's godliness they suddenly developed an aids vaccine

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Xeybozn
06/16/20 7:35:47 PM
#439:


Why would Trump ever mention an AIDS vaccine as a good thing? Doesn't he know his supporters hate vaccines and love AIDS?
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GildedFool
06/16/20 7:43:49 PM
#440:


I mean, that's just ignorance.

"AIDS was bad and now it's okay so they must have invented a vaccine. I know scientists that cure disease, so they must have invented it."

That's just him literally not knowing anything about the things he talks about.

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Jakyl25
06/16/20 8:01:27 PM
#441:


Someone should ask him if hes gotten the AIDS vaccine
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SmartMuffin
06/16/20 8:10:21 PM
#442:


He probably just watched that one episode of South Park.

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Jakyl25
06/16/20 8:16:32 PM
#443:


Even that wasnt a vaccine! That was a cure!
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Suprak the Stud
06/16/20 8:38:56 PM
#444:


FL is the tipping point state based on those.

I'll take "A sentence I literally never want to hear" for $2000, please.

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Corrik7
06/16/20 11:28:42 PM
#445:


https://www.cnbctv18.com/politics/india-china-tensions-live-updates-ladakh-galwan-valley-news-pla-indian-army-
doklam-daulat-beg-oldi-pangong-lake-global-times-rajnath-singh-india-china-war-india-china-news-6146261.htm

Furious hand-to-hand fighting raged across the Galwan river valley for over eight hours on Monday night, as Peoples Liberation Army assault teams armed with iron rods as well as batons wrapped in barbed wire hunted down and slaughtered troops of the 16 Bihar Regiment, News18 cited a senior government official familiar with the debriefing of survivors at hospitals in Leh as saying.
The savage combat, with few parallels in the history of modern armies, is confirmed to have claimed the lives of at least 23 Indian soldiers, including 16 Bihars commanding officer, Colonel Santosh Babu, many because of protracted exposure to sub-zero temperatures the Indian Army said late on Tuesday, the report added.
Even unarmed men who fled into the hillsides were hunted down and killed, the report quoted an officer as saying. The dead include men who jumped into the Galwan river in a desperate effort to escape, it added.
Government sources say at least another two dozen soldiers are battling life-threatening injuries, and over 110 have needed treatment, the News18 report said. The toll will likely go up, the report quoted a military officer with knowledge of the issue as saying.

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Jakyl25
06/17/20 12:21:40 AM
#446:


I agree that this is scary but we dont need to get involved
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Corrik7
06/17/20 12:22:25 AM
#447:


The reason you are seeing hand to hand fighting and stone throwing is apparently they have a clause if a gun is fired it is a declaration of war.

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Jakyl25
06/17/20 12:23:18 AM
#448:


Well that just breeds creativity
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LordoftheMorons
06/17/20 7:47:25 AM
#449:


https://twitter.com/ne0liberal/status/1273189117661270017

Maybe he's just a really big fan of Sam Waterson...!

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The Mana Sword
06/17/20 7:53:16 AM
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