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alimajor
06/13/20 6:38:39 PM
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Atlantas police chief resigned on Saturday, less than 24 hours after a police officer shot and killed a man at a Wendys drive-through who had run from the police after failing a sobriety check and taking an officers Taser, the authorities said. Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms of Atlanta said that security footage appeared to show that the man, Rayshard Brooks, 27, who is black, had fired the Taser toward the officer, who was chasing him before he was killed
While there may be debate as to whether this was an appropriate use of deadly force, I firmly believe that there is a clear distinction between what you can do and what you should do, Ms. Bottoms

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/06/13/us/atlanta-police-shooting-rayshard-brooks.amp.html

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/13/20 6:39:16 PM
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alimajor
06/13/20 6:40:41 PM
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Ahhh damn it lol
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darkprince45
06/13/20 7:25:19 PM
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Just so I understand, he was passed out drunk at the drive thru behind the wheel. Was given field sobriety tests, he failed. When they went to arrest him, he fought both eventually taking a taser and tried to run, eventually pointing it at officers when he was shot. This was seen by witnesses and camera. Whats the issue here? Theres no way in hell you could ever let someone take your taser and taser you

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KillerKhan420
06/13/20 7:28:48 PM
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Wendy's chicken nuggets are worth it IMO. I wish they brought back their mozzarella chicken sandwich, that was the best, I forgot what sauce they used on it but it was godly.....Wendy's, enter the chicken sandwich wars with that and I'm all yours.

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Roxborough4Ever
06/13/20 7:29:35 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Just so I understand, he was passed out drunk at the drive thru behind the wheel. Was given field sobriety tests, he failed. When they went to arrest him, he fought both eventually taking a taser and tried to run, eventually pointing it at officers when he was shot. This was seen by witnesses and camera. Whats the issue here? Theres no way in hell you could ever let someone take your taser and taser you

BLM, now shut the fuck up and dont question it.

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Houston
06/13/20 7:31:31 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
BLM, now shut the fuck up and dont question it.

What is your avatar from?

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Zikten
06/13/20 7:32:25 PM
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If he was white they still would have taken him in alive after all that.
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SH_expert44
06/13/20 7:33:17 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Just so I understand, he was passed out drunk at the drive thru behind the wheel. Was given field sobriety tests, he failed. When they went to arrest him, he fought both eventually taking a taser and tried to run, eventually pointing it at officers when he was shot. This was seen by witnesses and camera. Whats the issue here? Theres no way in hell you could ever let someone take your taser and taser you
Thats fucked up right? Those are TRAINED cops. They should be able to take a taser attack or 2 without having to resort to violence. At the VERY MOST they should have done a disabling shot, and shot the taser out of his hand.

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creativeme
06/13/20 7:37:42 PM
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Zikten posted...
If he was white they still would have taken him in alive after all that.

no they wouldn't. they still would have shot him. police brutality happens to white people all the time. the media just never brings it up but you can find many stories about unarmed white people being killed by police.

the cop that killed him the mayor wants his badge. shot him 3 times. it's excessive force. like if he shot him in the leg that's one thing but they should have called in backup and got in their car and followed him if they had to. but he was drunk so not like he would have gotten that far on foot.
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creativeme
06/13/20 7:40:31 PM
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SH_expert44 posted...
Thats fucked up right? Those are TRAINED cops. They should be able to take a taser attack or 2 without having to resort to violence. At the VERY MOST they should have done a disabling shot, and shot the taser out of his hand.

they aren't trained enough. they only go through like 500? hours of training with a very little bit being confrontation management or whatever it's called. basically trying to stay calm and stuff. compared to friends that are hairdressers and have to do 1500 hours of training before they get their license.
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darkprince45
06/13/20 7:41:51 PM
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creativeme posted...
they aren't trained enough. they only go through like 500? hours of training with a very little bit being confrontation management or whatever it's called. basically trying to stay calm and stuff. compared to friends that are hairdressers and have to do 1500 hours of training before they get their license.

quit overdoing it. The west coast alone is 1000 of just academy time. Field training being 6 months. It takes over a year and over 2,000 hours in the west coast

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Unit7
06/13/20 7:48:54 PM
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Isnt a taser like that a one and done type of deal? If you miss, your kinda SOL?

He became effectively unarmed in this situation.

But it wouldnt be considered lethal force anyways... which should be the standard for cops using lethal force.
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alimajor
06/13/20 7:49:42 PM
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creativeme posted...
no they wouldn't. they still would have shot him. police brutality happens to white people all the time. the media just never brings it up but you can find many stories about unarmed white people being killed by police.

the cop that killed him the mayor wants his badge. shot him 3 times. it's excessive force. like if he shot him in the leg that's one thing but they should have called in backup and got in their car and followed him if they had to. but he was drunk so not like he would have gotten that far on foot.

I think its hard to say they wouldve or wouldnt have but I do see your point. And thats on white people for those atrocities not getting traction. That poor old white dude got manhandled by the cops in buffalo and you still have a disturbing amount of whites saying it was justified.

Its hard to defend this guy because he shouldnt have started fighting the police and he shouldnt have run away. He was 100% in the wrong for driving drunk and shouldve just surrendered. I still want to see footage from the beginning to see if he was provoked or something to cause him to act out like that.

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darkprince45
06/13/20 7:51:16 PM
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Unit7 posted...
Isnt a taser like that a one and done type of deal? If you miss, your kinda SOL?

He became effectively unarmed in this situation.

But it wouldnt be considered lethal force anyways... which should be the standard for cops using lethal force.

no, my taser for example has 4 shots in the cartridge. Second, you can keep pulling the trigger and endlessly taser someone until the battery runs out. If I point a gun at someone and dont shoot, should I wait until he shoots it? You have no clue what you are talking about

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Doe
06/13/20 7:56:03 PM
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SaradaUchihaXXX
06/13/20 7:57:51 PM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78769232

This one says the guy was unarmed.

OP states he grabbed a taser and used it against the police.

Big huge ass difference...
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darkprince45
06/13/20 7:59:24 PM
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Everything I posted is relevant to the information that is out there. But thank you for the racist post

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UnfairRepresent
06/13/20 8:00:51 PM
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He stole a tazer and used it on a cop?

That seems just justified to me. I am missing something?
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scorpion41
06/13/20 8:00:56 PM
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Doe posted...
darkprinceofkillingblackpeople45

Hes not wrong though. A taser can go from non lethal to lethal real quick in the wrong hands, in this case a fleeing perp. Police arent supposed to let people fire weapons at them.

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darkprince45
06/13/20 8:01:40 PM
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The video is on the news right now. You clearly see the guy using the taser and hitting the cop and he slams into the car from being hit

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ThisGuyAreSick
06/13/20 8:08:42 PM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
This guy was drinking and driving and he stole a cop's taser? I mean, what are the police supposed to do in this situation? Let the guy just run away?


Not kill him
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Zikten
06/13/20 8:09:35 PM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
This guy was drinking and driving and he stole a cop's taser? I mean, what are the police supposed to do in this situation? Let the guy just run away?

Yes actually. You can go pick him up later. You really think the man will stay hidden forever and never be seen again?
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darkprince45
06/13/20 8:10:21 PM
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Zikten posted...
Yes actually. You can go pick him up later. You really think the man will stay hidden forever and never be seen again?
You literally see in the video the cop getting shot by the taser.....

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thebatz
06/13/20 8:11:30 PM
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SH_expert44 posted...
Thats fucked up right? Those are TRAINED cops. They should be able to take a taser attack or 2 without having to resort to violence. At the VERY MOST they should have done a disabling shot, and shot the taser out of his hand.

the world isn't a video game where you can target a weak spot to immobilize an enemy.

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Machete
06/13/20 8:11:53 PM
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ThisGuyAreSick posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78769232

I wonder why a certain someone in that topic was warned

(No I don't. I saw earlier today)

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Zikten
06/13/20 8:12:15 PM
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Still not worth the death penalty. He harmed a cop but was not killing him. The cop killed a person for getting some pain dealt on him. Thats going overboard

Its like shooting someone in the face because they punched you one single time
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Elmer_Glue
06/13/20 8:12:52 PM
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They should have let the dude tase the cop so he could take his actual gun clearly.
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Darkrobotisback
06/13/20 8:13:45 PM
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The moment you break the law and decide to fight with the cops, you deserve whatever happens to you TBH.
I don't care if you were impaired (thus failing to make a proper judgment with the situation at hand) or not. The police have the right to uphold the law to the fullest extent and if you're not willing to comply then you will be subject to the harshest methods of subduing you.

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darkprince45
06/13/20 8:14:25 PM
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Zikten posted...
Still not worth the death penalty. He harmed a cop but was not killing him. The cop killed a person for getting some pain dealt on him. Thats going overboard

Its like shooting someone in the face because they punched you one single time

dude, youre ridiculous. Thats not the same at all. Like youre, really going above and beyond to be in the wrong. He tased a cop running on concrete, he already crashed into the car by luck. He misses on falls on the concrete like hes probably dead right there. Whats to the stop the guy from just sitting and tase the cop for minutes until he just dies????????risk getting getting tased and then he takes his gun??

my brain is exploding

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SH_expert44
06/13/20 8:16:26 PM
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Zikten posted...
Still not worth the death penalty. He harmed a cop but was not killing him. The cop killed a person for getting some pain dealt on him. Thats going overboard

Its like shooting someone in the face because they punched you one single time
Its more like shooting someone in the face because they stole a weapon from you and used it on you.

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Machete
06/13/20 8:17:36 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
A taser

Okay...

scorpion41 posted...
in the wrong hands,

Go on...

scorpion41 posted...
in this case a fleeing perp.

you're getting colder now :/

scorpion41 posted...
Police

There we go. Boom goes the dynamite.

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Tenlaar
06/13/20 8:17:54 PM
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It is unreasonable to expect cops to work under the assumption that somebody who is willing to fight them over a completely rightful arrest, get one of their tasers, and then try to use that taser on them would not also take their gun and use it if the taser is successful. If the tasers are one and done then it's unreasonable to shoot after that, if they can fire multiple times then it's not so unreasonable.
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scorpion41
06/13/20 8:18:30 PM
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Machete posted...
Okay...

Go on...

you're getting colder now :/

There we go. Boom goes the dynamite.

Lol shut the fuck up, you...

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darkprince45
06/13/20 8:19:01 PM
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I like how the OP clearly forgets to relay information thats relevant. so the regular crew can cherry-pick and further their agenda

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darkprince45
06/13/20 8:20:07 PM
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Get it clear, you clearly see him point the taser and shoot the cop. Quit acting like he was shot for sleeping in the drive thru drunk or just running

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DespondentDeity
06/13/20 8:20:30 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Whats to the stop the guy from just sitting and tase the cop for minutes until he just dies?

I mean the cop could stop pursuing him, they had his vehicle, he could have been apprehended later. What it comes down to is the cop killed him because he was humiliated by his own incompetence.

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Machete
06/13/20 8:20:31 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Lol shut the fuck up, you...

I would ask you to make me but I know you look like Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane.

that being said, make me \_()_/

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thebatz
06/13/20 8:21:35 PM
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the guy resisted and managed to grab the officer's taser. what's to stop him from grabbing his firearm after tazing the officer.

straight up judgement call from the police officer to use their gun and i understand why it was done.

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scorpion41
06/13/20 8:22:09 PM
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Machete posted...
I would ask you to make me but I know you look like Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane.

that being said, make me \_()_/

Im not gonna lie...I chuckled a bit.

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SF_Okami
06/13/20 8:25:04 PM
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DespondentDeity posted...
I mean the cop could stop pursuing him, they had his vehicle, he could have been apprehended later. What it comes down to is the cop killed him because he was humiliated by his own incompetence.
I would not want a drunk man running around my neighborhood with a police-grade taser after escaping the cops. Not defending what the cop did, but you cant let him just get away. At that point you are putting the public in danger.

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Machete
06/13/20 8:25:11 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Im not gonna lie...I chuckled a bit.

I've been feeling various kinds of silly these days lol

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Kisai
06/13/20 8:25:26 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
BLM, now shut the fuck up and dont question it.

Zikten posted...
If he was white they still would have taken him in alive after all that.


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TheVipaGTS
06/13/20 8:25:44 PM
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Call me crazy, but unless we're certain the person is a serial killer or something, lets stop shooting people in the back. Ok he fought back and took the tazer, bad idea and i'd be ok with more force used in the scuffle, but after he managed to get away from them and was running...you don't need to shoot him. Chase him down, or get him later. One would assume that after apprehending him they got his information. Even if they didn't they should have his face on their Cameras (assuming they didn't magically "malfunction")....Just let that one go and get him later. You don't need to kill every suspect that gets away.

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darkprince45
06/13/20 8:26:26 PM
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He was shot the second he turned around and shot the taser...

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TheVipaGTS
06/13/20 8:27:16 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
He was shot the second he turned around and shot the taser...
Nice to see you in this topic...noticed you ignored the topic i tagged you in...

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darkprince45
06/13/20 8:27:40 PM
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I dont respond to tags, I aint your bitch

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Doe
06/13/20 8:28:47 PM
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My tags have clearly been well-chosen based on the posts in this thread

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