Poll of the Day > Should BLM change their name?

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People get mad about people responding with ALM or asking if only black lives matter, etc. So would changing the name to something more obvious help the cause?

It just seems like there is a lot of confusion around the name (for boomers mostly) and the confusion holds us back. Wouldn't it be easier to just change it to something everyone can understand so theres no more BLM/ALM fights and we can get to the real issue instead of arguing about names?

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I will bet $1000 to anyone that if BLM changed their name to ALM, the people whining about the name BLM would STILL not approve of the cause.

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Muscles posted...

So would changing the name to something more obvious help the cause?

Nope. People who cry about it now will always cry about it no matter what. Still the argument is stupid anyway as not all lives matter regardless of race.

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Muscles posted...

It just seems like there is a lot of confusion around the name (for boomers mostly) and the confusion holds us back.

it sounds like you're saying you're a boomer, ok?

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Ohh shit you caught me, I'm a boomer and I've been hiding it

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While all lives matter, black lives have been disproportionately threatened, abused, killed and incarcerated. Are white, latino,Asian etc people being abused/arrested etc as well? Sure. Is there racism against pretty much everyone of any color even white people? Sure, but it's not even close to the level the african american citizens have faced (Although I would say it's pretty bad against the Latino community recently as well).

BLM is fine, because right now that is where the focus needs to be. We need to fix the justice system, the police force etc to ensure everyone is protected, and not persecuted in this country (I include latino americans as well in there and even asian americans were persecuted recently due to the virus). While there are other battles to fight, right now the battle is to ensure our dark skinned brothers and sisters are treated fairly and do not have to live in fear. If you believe ALL LIVES MATTER, good for you, then you ALSO believe Black Lives Matter and should get onboard with the current focus to end the extreme unbalanced justice system we have in this country.

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Yes, but only because BLM is the abbreviated version of Black Mages. So every time I see BLM thats where my mind goes.

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HornedLion posted...

Yes, but only because BLM is the abbreviated version of Black Mages. So every time I see BLM thats where my mind goes.

4 BLM in FF1 was my favorite party tbh.

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wolfy42 posted...

While all lives matter

They don't.

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wwinterj25 posted...

They don't.

IF your talking about bad people, murderers, rapists, selfish people who care only about themselves and make the world a worse place to live in, I can see your point, but I still think their lives should matter to us, or else we take the chance of becoming as bad as them.

We must care about others, even if they do not care about us in return. It's especially hard to do for people who have wronged you or those you love, but our prison system is a great example of how important it is to care about people who have done bad things. Just because someone does something bad does not mean everyone should ignore what happens to them. Torture is not a good thing ever, and if good people turn their back on bad people because they "Deserve what they get" then bad people will be the ones in charge of them, and who knows the level of cruelty that will ensue.

Every person matters, or should. I personally believe we all end up living each others lives, so the suffering of others, will eventually be yours as well. Treat every person the way you would want to be treat (or if possible the way they would want to be treated) and hopefully the good will outweigh the bad in the end.

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wolfy42 posted...

IF your talking about bad people, murderers, rapists, selfish people who care only about themselves and make the world a worse place to live in, I can see your point, but I still think their lives should matter to us, or else we take the chance of becoming as bad as them.

I don't agree. Wanting a child molester dead doesn't make me as bad a child molester for example. Scum of this earth like those deserve no life and I certainly won't say their lives matter.


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Muscles posted...

People get mad

nothing is gonna change that

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wolfy42 posted...

4 BLM in FF1 was my favorite party tbh.

Pretty sure folks would do that in FFXI too. Called a Mana Burn party or some shit like that.

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faramir77 posted...

I will bet $1000 to anyone that if BLM changed their name to ALM, the people whining about the name BLM would STILL not approve of the cause.

for sure they would find some other excuse. they would never be ok with it, no matter what the name was

Or people can read a history book or if ALM started protesting police brutality for all victims

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The criticism I've hear is not about the name, it's about black people not acting like thier lives matter. Why should other people care more about their lives than they do?

JOExHIGASHI posted...

or if ALM started protesting police brutality for all victims

I would support that. Adress the issue without making it about race. Cops can be out of line toward anyone. Black people aren't special.

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Muscles posted...

People get mad about people responding with ALM or asking if only black lives matter, etc. So would changing the name to something more obvious help the cause?

It just seems like there is a lot of confusion around the name (for boomers mostly) and the confusion holds us back. Wouldn't it be easier to just change it to something everyone can understand so theres no more BLM/ALM fights and we can get to the real issue instead of arguing about names?

People who say all lives matter would come up with some other way to attack them.

They don't have an issue with the name, they have an issue with people wanting rights.

Can't go changing the name of a protest movement just because other people brutally missed the point

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No, BLM is a name people know. Also it's not really good optics. It kinda proves the point of the trolls.

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wwinterj25 posted...

I don't agree. Wanting a child molester dead doesn't make me as bad a child molester for example. Scum of this earth like those deserve no life and I certainly won't say their lives matter.

I certainly don't think the current practice of letting em out of jail after only a small amount of time and "trusting" them to not do it again is the right approach, but I would like a more humane way of dealing with the situation. I have not done a study on child molesters, I honestly hate that they exist at all. I get that there are pedophiles and they can't do anything about the way they feel etc, but, they CAN not actually molest children. It's horrid/disgusting/disturbing and just sad that people are that selfish.

But even so, I still would either A: kill them outright or B: set up a community that is guarded and kept them away from the rest of society where they can live the rest of their lives (But still work etc and have fairly normal lives).

I guess real castration could also be a solution if it was voluntary, but I don't think Chemical castration is permanent (so if they stop taking meds etc they could do it again.

While I do say all lives matter, I don't leave out the solution of actually ending a life that is just plain negative and can't be redeemed. I DO believe in the death penalty in extreme cases, just only if the crime is proven without any doubt and there is no way for that person to live a good/productive life without endangering others.

But that is actually my point, at least to me, killing someone in some situations is a kindness and if you don't have good people overseeing such instances, a person can instead end up locked up, tortured etc for decades. There are evil people, I know that, but I think torture, even of evil people is wrong. At worse we should end a life that is just negative and will just be full of suffering, we should not extend that suffering, even if we really want to because of their actions.

But I respect if you do not feel the same way.

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I said it in another topic; Black Lives Also Matter, BLAM.

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If they started using a different name people would just take it as evidence that BLM was a black supremacist group all along.

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Zareth posted...

I said it in another topic; Black Lives Also Matter, BLAM.

Whoa black Betty

Pam blam

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Blightzkrieg posted...

If they started using a different name people would just take it as evidence that BLM was a black supremacist group all along.

And they won't change it because it is one.
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faramir77 posted...

I will bet $1000 to anyone that if BLM changed their name to ALM, the people whining about the name BLM would STILL not approve of the cause.

If they started to care about ALL police brutality besides just changing the name, more people would care. However, even fixing the name would help improve their image.

wolfy42 posted...

While all lives matter, black lives have been disproportionately threatened, abused, killed and incarcerated.

...which is wrongly suggesting that there's any reason to expect incarceration rates to be equal, in addition to making broad suppositions regarding threats, abuse, and deaths.

wolfy42 posted...

Are white, latino,Asian etc people being abused/arrested etc as well? Sure.

You complain about disproportionate arrests, but Asians are underrepresented in prisons despite also being a minority. What's your explanation there? And what's your solution, to put more Asians in prison on principle?

Asians make up 5.9% of the US's population yet only 1.5% of the prison population. That's massive difference.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219
https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp

SpaceBear_ posted...

Can't go changing the name of a protest movement just because other people brutally missed the point

Once you pick terrible branding, you have to see it through to the bitter end!

Zareth posted...

I said it in another topic; Black Lives Also Matter, BLAM.

Which would be an improvement in most senses.

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I still think the key issue here isn't racial. The cops need to held accountable for what they do, regardless of who it is to.

Saying "the cops illegally harass black people the most" doesn't mean we should try and get them to diversify their illegal harassment, it means we need to make sure they can't illegally harass people period.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

And they won't change it because it is one.

Remember when you got fucking humiliated in that topic about Arbery lmao

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Remember when you got fucking humiliated in that topic about Arbery lmao

No, I remember people insisting their first guess was bang on despite a lawyer having point out common sense to them in their fog of rage.
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all lives dont matter do you think the people protesting care about kids dying of starvation all over the country and world

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ArvTheGreat posted...

all lives dont matter do you think the people protesting care about kids dying of starvation all over the country and world

They should call it "My Life Matters" and admit it's personal fear.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

No, I remember people insisting their first guess was bang on despite a lawyer having point out common sense to them in their fog of rage.

Got warned in the third post of the topic, it was like watching a pro sniper cleanly shoot himself in the head

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Got warned in the third post of the topic, it was like watching a pro sniper cleanly shoot himself in the head

I was modded for the first post in a different topic because a mod can't keep their opinions separate from reality.
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Oh nice it was a double headshot I didnt even know that was possible

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Oh nice it was a double headshot I didnt even know that was possible

No, just a single moderation. A childish flame like the shit you're pulling now. No argument, just venting feeling without semantic content.
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wolfy42 posted...

While all lives matter, black lives have been disproportionately threatened, abused, killed and incarcerated. Are white, latino,Asian etc people being abused/arrested etc as well? Sure. Is there racism against pretty much everyone of any color even white people? Sure, but it's not even close to the level the african american citizens have faced (Although I would say it's pretty bad against the Latino community recently as well).

BLM is fine, because right now that is where the focus needs to be. We need to fix the justice system, the police force etc to ensure everyone is protected, and not persecuted in this country (I include latino americans as well in there and even asian americans were persecuted recently due to the virus). While there are other battles to fight, right now the battle is to ensure our dark skinned brothers and sisters are treated fairly and do not have to live in fear. If you believe ALL LIVES MATTER, good for you, then you ALSO believe Black Lives Matter and should get onboard with the current focus to end the extreme unbalanced justice system we have in this country.

To claim it is only Black people who die from police violence is irresponsible, IMO. Last year, for example, more unarmed white people died at the hands of police than black. While it is true that black people represent 13% of the population and that the deaths are disproportionate it isn't largely so. Even so, incarceration rates are not equal and disregarding race, males are disproportionately incarcerated vs females. You could almost re-brad to 'male lives matter'.

The movement should be focusing on police violence in general - but because of the racist overtones of the movement it has turned into nothing more than a modern-day lynch mob IMO. There is no clear goal or metric to determine any success - just angry people who are trying to inflict as much pain against people they feel deserve it.

wolfy42 posted...

But even so, I still would either A: kill them outright or B: set up a community that is guarded and kept them away from the rest of society where they can live the rest of their lives (But still work etc and have fairly normal lives).

Option A sounds appealing but option B doesn't. I'd go with option C and make them suffer for the rest of their lives.


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Blightzkrieg posted...

If they started using a different name people would just take it as evidence that BLM was a black supremacist group all along.

that's why he made this topic, muscles has a history, ok?

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Zeus posted...

wolfy42 posted...
Are white, latino,Asian etc people being abused/arrested etc as well? Sure.

You complain about disproportionate arrests, but Asians are underrepresented in prisons despite also being a minority. What's your explanation there? And what's your solution, to put more Asians in prison on principle?

Asians make up 5.9% of the US's population yet only 1.5% of the prison population. That's massive difference.

Asian's are not targeted, at least not nearly as much as hispanics and african americans. The numbers for asians are pretty close over all to the numbers for white americans as far as pop total to prison pop.

The numbers for African americans, Latino's and Native americans are waaay larger though.

Are you suggesting that those races are just more prone to commiting crimes?

We know that is not true, many times white americans commit the same exact crime and get away scot free, and that isn't even taking into account the income/money etc to pay for lawyers that can get you off most charged (first few years we actually worked in criminal law and the diff between a public defender, and us, was HUGE....but we cost alot of money (And we didn't even charge a ton compared to most attorneys...we (at that time) didn't have an office etc, and my wife had been a public defender until recently (death penalty defense in Riverside County in fact).

Just being able to afford a private attorney even a cheap one can be the difference between probation and a few years in jail. Meanwhile you have TONS of minorities in jail for minor drug charges (multiple possession charges etc).

Even without racist cops it's an unfair system, and I don't think many people are denying at this point that some cops are racist.

So yes, I do expect a fairly even percentage of incarcerations based on population percentage and incarceration percentage. African Americans make up only 13% of our population but 40% (the largest of any race) of our prison population. It blows away everyone else and is a larger percentage than white people by a few percent even though there are more than 5x as many white people in this country. There is no way that is fair, there is no way that is right, and it's disgusting that it has been allowed to go on for so long.

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wwinterj25 posted...

Option A sounds appealing but option B doesn't. I'd go with option C and make them suffer for the rest of their lives.

I get it and I respect your opinion. I absolutely HATE the effect child molesters have had on our society, the fact that they have abused kids is bad enough, but the fact the fear they have created in parents (justifiable) and the neccesary distance other adults must have with kids is horrid as well. That was not the case when I was a kid (even though there was child molesters back then....heck probably more), but the fear had not spread yet.

I just don't believe in torture at least when I have a cool head and am not raging against a specific injustice etc. I feel if we start torturing and causing long term suffering etc, then the monsters have won, because we became monsters as well. That being said, many people probably think I am a monster myself because I believe in the death penalty and think some people are better of not existing.

I am willing to see other peoples view points at least and accept them. I can certain see why someone would believe child molesters should suffer and pay, both as justice and as a deterrent to prevent other molesters from committing such horrible crimes.

There is no easy solution, but I do strongly feel that locking someone up for decades in the sort of prisons we have, is just plain wrong.

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wolfy42 posted...

Asian's are not targeted, at least not nearly as much as hispanics and african americans.

Asians aren't commiting as much crime, despite their sizeable history in the US of being discriminated against. It's like in the modern day we're treated by our actions.

wolfy42 posted...

Are you suggesting that those races are just more prone to commiting crimes?

I'd say hispanic and black communities are more prone to being communal and covering each other's asses creating a shield and a supportive environment for criminals. A lack of willingness to rat out criminal neighbours and family members breeds crime and makes people more bitter and resentful when they are caught out by the police. It gets worse when someone who feels entitled to commit crime unquestioned resists arrest and the community sees their own having to be manhandled.

Let's be clear, I'm speaking about cultural trends surrounding races, not inherent racial tendencies. I'm blaming a subculture, not any race.

wolfy42 posted...

We know that is not true, many times white americans commit the same exact crime and get away scot free

The "exact same crime" isn't exactly the same though. It's the same charge, but people act differently when caught. The smoother they're able to be sent through the legal system, the less pissed off with the criminal the Judge will be. If you call the legal system racist when you're caught, the judge will be a lot more impatient than if you just go along with proceedings.

wolfy42 posted...

and that isn't even taking into account the income/money etc to pay for lawyers that can get you off most charged

Sorry, I didn't know only white and asian people could handle money.

wolfy42 posted...

Meanwhile you have TONS of minorities in jail for minor drug charges (multiple possession charges etc).

If you have repeated offenses for anything you're going to get slapped about by the legal system, no matter who your lawyer is.

wolfy42 posted...

So yes, I do expect a fairly even percentage of incarcerations based on population percentage and incarceration percentage. African Americans make up only 13% of our population but 40% (the largest of any race) of our prison population.

That's the same everywhere, so unless your argument is that the whole world is racist, it's not an argument for equal treatment.
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While there is usually a larger % of dark skinned people in prison in other countries (like England for instance) it's never even slightly close to the huge difference in the US. Here it's 5x or more, in most other countries it's usually 2x or less. Most of those countries realize they actually have a problem because it's a larger amount as well and are working on it.

And yes, there is still a HUGE disparity between wealth based on race, which is a huge factor as well. A white criminal is very likely to either have the money for a better attorney or have family that does. That is often not the case for minorities. Which is obviously not fair.

Repeated offenses which have been commited by white people and ignored or given warnings (IE drugs), but which can send non-white people to jail/prison for years....is not fair, and I have personally seen that when I was younger (sadly over 20 years ago....and it's still going on). Heck, I knew one guy (a friend of a friend) who freaking Dealt drugs and still didn't go to jail after being caught more than once, which is crazy.

As for acting differently, damn straight. If you know people who are similar to you (in this case same skin color) have been targeted by police and you grow up in schools where they never come and talk to you etc, and you have friends and family who have been arrested by them, or persecuted by them (searched for no reason etc), and you literally have grown up fearing them, your gonna act differently.

IF you instead go to a nice, safe, mostly white school where cops show up and talk to kids throughout the years, tell them to "stay off drugs" and follow the laws etc, and your family and friends all talk about how cops are heroes and protect them......yeah, your gonna act differently if you do something illegal and are dealing with them. Duh.

It's not fair, plain and simple, and it should be.

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wolfy42 posted...

While there is usually a larger % of dark skinned people in prison in other countries (like England for instance) it's never even slightly close to the huge difference in the US. Here it's 5x or more, in most other countries it's usually 2x or less.

In the UK 3% are black, yet 12% of the prison population is black. We also have groups linking all minorities together to offset the black population's significant overrepresentation so it looks like whitey being racist rather than some races just doing worse.

wolfy42 posted...

A white criminal is very likely to either have the money for a better attorney or have family that does.

lolno.

wolfy42 posted...

Repeated offenses which have been commited by white people and ignored or given warnings (IE drugs), but which can send non-white people to jail/prison for years....is not fair, and I have personally seen that when I was younger (sadly over 20 years ago....and it's still going on). Heck, I knew one guy (a friend of a friend) who freaking Dealt drugs and still didn't go to jail after being caught more than once, which is crazy.

Anecdotal evidence isn't particularly useful, particularly when you don't know how they're communicating with the police. Like I said earlier, if you're beligerent with the police, you get the book thrown at you.

wolfy42 posted...

As for acting differently, damn straight. If you know people who are similar to you (in this case same skin color) have been targeted by police and you grow up in schools where they never come and talk to you etc, and you have friends and family who have been arrested by them, or persecuted by them (searched for no reason etc), and you literally have grown up fearing them, your gonna act differently.

Chicken/Egg.

You're still dealing with authorities and as such you can't act up and expect to be treated the same. There's no excuse that allows you to act worse with the police but expect matching treatment. They decide your fate so you have to be as pleasant and cooperative as possible or you're going to be marked as yet another beligerent.

wolfy42 posted...

IF you instead go to a nice, safe, mostly white school where cops show up and talk to kids throughout the years, tell them to "stay off drugs" and follow the laws etc, and your family and friends all talk about how cops are heroes and protect them......yeah, your gonna act differently if you do something illegal and are dealing with them. Duh.

And if the people aren't being difficult with you, you're more willing to talk to them as it seems like they might actually listen to you. The police aren't going to do a visibility campaign in an area where their presence is seen as a threat. If the area says "fuck off police", they're going to keep their distance unless necessary as they're not going to get any positive reception by trying.

Also why do you think it's a good thing for the police to come in to schools and lecture students? To me it's just a polite way of saying "we're fucking watching you", it's not a positive experience. You only talk about cops as heroes if you personally know them or if they help people you know, most people I know refer to the police as just a background entity, a mild nuisance to be ignored.

wolfy42 posted...

It's not fair, plain and simple, and it should be.

It's definitely fair, it's like for like. You don't get postive communication from the police when your area doesn't give it. If the air is hostile then everybody's on their toes, you can't expect the police to be the ones to hand out the olive branch, and if the attempt at peace is shot down, you can't expect them to keep trying to bridge the gap.

If you live in a shitty area then you have to expect the cops to be shitty with you, they're not going to be buddy-buddy with you if the whole neighbourhood is anti-cop because repeated drugs offenders got arrested.
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The slogan is spot on, the problem is about what they hide and what they don't hide.

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Kinda sad people do not know what BLM stands for in this day and age.

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No, it's a pointless change and it's far too late. It's a movement. It's not like someone just get to decide to change it and that's how it is.

Would have cleared a lot of meaningless resistance based on semantics though if the word "too" was simply added to the end of it years back when it began.

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saying only one thing implies that is the only one that matters.

if someone asks if they are smart and hot, and you say they are smart, thats the same as saying that aren't hot.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Nope. People who cry about it now will always cry about it no matter what.

Pretty much. Everyone that wants to understand already understands (or can have it explained/learn for themselves very easily). The people raising a stink about the strict semantics of the name aren't people who genuinely can't understand, but rather people who don't want to understand. Fix the semantics, and they'll find something else to nitpick because they don't have the balls to openly admit that they oppose the movement.

The name isn't perfect, no, but that's simply the nature of the beast when you're dealing with movements that grow wthout any kind of cohesive leadership. English is full of words and names whose meaning doesn't perfectly align with their literal morphological interpretation. Everyone manages nonetheless, so one more isn't going to make a significant difference one way or the other.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

saying only one thing implies that is the only one that matters.

Does "save the rainforest" imply that no other biomes should be preserved? Does "save the whales" imply that no other animal should be preserved? Does "end breast cancer" imply that no other cancers need to be ended? Does "I'd like a cheeseburger" imply that mcnuggets don't matter?

Saying only one thing implies that that thing is the only one currently being discussed. Nothing more. If you want to introduce other things into the discussion that you feel are relevant, go for it, but do so by drawing on context to demonstrate that relevance and build the discussion, not by shutting down discussion by saying "other stuff also matters stop being so close-minded" and ignoring everything else they have to say.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

you can't expect the police to be the ones to hand out the olive branch,

Their job is literally to "keep the peace." They have a professional responsibility to do exactly that. Yes, you can expect them to be the ones to offer the olive branch, because if they don't, they aren't doing their job and should be fired. That's just basic professionalism.

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faramir77 posted...

I will bet $1000 to anyone that if BLM changed their name to ALM, the people whining about the name BLM would STILL not approve of the cause.

You'd be wrong.

Some of the ALM people would whine yes, but I REFUSE to accept "All lives matter!" as offensive. The idea that ALM is somehow unacceptable is completely ridiculous, especially since while the statistics are horribly scewed this isn't the kind of thing that only happens one way. And it's true, you don't see a huge uproar when it's someone who isn't black this happens to, not on this level.

The problem I have with the name BLM is that it assumes racism even in cases where there is none. Yes, it's a huge problem. No, it's not some huge institutionalized problem like it actually was in decades past.

That brings me to the Blue Lives Matter thing. I will not accept or endorse the demonization of all police officers. MOST police offers are good people serving their communities. The racists and corrupt cops are the rarity, and not the other way around. Bribes and such are far more rampant in some other countries too.

Then there's the stupidity of "defund the police." Yes, let's let gang overlords and racist militias step in and control the country. That's such a good idea. (Sarcasm of course)

Also, I have a major problem with the fact statistics ignore how many of the people that died were actually criminals. That matters a ton. Sometimes there will be an armed criminal that gets shot and the news will report it as a "police shooting." That's egregiously stupid to turn an armed criminal into a martyr. It's cases like George Floyd that are a real tragedy, and the tragedy of criminals that get shot/killed is that they went that way in their lives, not that the police shot when they refused to surrender.

That anarchists have so successfully taken over the narrative is tragic, and a disservice to George Floyd and others who it should be about. And the fact that people on social media disrespect ALL police, and treat them as subhuman, is backwards prejudice. Ironic considering that's what they are allegedly protesting.

Please note, I speak only of the anarchists screaming "defund the police" and the people that spread incessant memes and hate about all the police, and people who act like this is exclusively a black problem.

Basically, the name BLM is incredibly unfortunate. Changing it at this time isn't realistic. Challenging the demonization of saying all lives matter is somehow wrong is fine, in my opinion.

So if not marching in lock step with anarchists and people who promote prejudice against all police is "not approving the cause" then you'd be right, but that isn't what BLM is about even if shameful people have tried to hijack it.

adjl posted...

Does "save the rainforest" imply that no other biomes should be preserved? Does "save the whales" imply that no other animal should be preserved? Does "end breast cancer" imply that no other cancers need to be ended? Does "I'd like a cheeseburger" imply that mcnuggets don't matter?

Kinda depends on the circumstance. Taking a specific problem that applies to multiple groups all grouped up, and only talking about saving one, does somewhat imply not saving others. If the rainforests are burning down and so is a flatlands area right next to it, from the same fire, but only like 35% of the flatlands is burning while 90% of the rainforest is, the thing should probably be like "fight the fires" or maybe specifically address whatever is causing said fires.

In some ways separating our cancer research is not really ideal since it keeps them focused on improving symptoms instead of finding a complete way to reverse cancer itself, which would generally work on almost all types of cancers. I really think medicine suffers from over specialization where a lot of specialists really dont know how similar stuff is happening to other systems in the body and knowing about those things would massively improve their ability to handle illness.

This issue with BLM is different though as I've mentioned because solving police brutality has zero to do with racism or fixing racism. It should be impossible for police to cover for each other and look for their own that break the law. Solving police brutality would naturally also solve police brutality being overly targeted on black people.

Focusing it on racism WILL derail it, especially since as you mentioned, it doesn't have cohesive leadership. There will be people in the movement that care more about incarceration, people that care more about intercity funding, people that want reperations for various government related racism things and the movement will become less and less unified until eventually either they get some token gesture from the government like a public denouncement and murder sentence being made about the cops or some radical insane people will ruin the BLM movement and normal rational people won't want to associate with it anymore.

In the first case, the movement will be decentralized enough that it'll lose some steam because of the consession but not be satisfied because so many people in the movement want so many different things and it'll just derail faster.

Look at how many movements and riots have focused on this in the past, and look how it's still a huge issue despite all those. If you want to actually solve the issue, you need to do better than they have before.

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When has ALM ever protested police brutality whether the victim was black or another race?

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