Poll of the Day > Why aren't the people who protested lockdowns protesting the curfews?

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GanonsSpirit
06/03/20 4:55:50 PM
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Seems like the same idea.
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HornedLion
06/03/20 4:59:21 PM
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I thought the same. Probably because theyre the most partisan motherfuckers on the planet, and so they dont see the curfew as infringing on their rights. The same way they didnt see the Patriot Act as infringing on their rights.

TL; DR: Theyre dumb.

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Hop103
06/03/20 5:00:26 PM
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The curfews keeps rioting away from small towns.
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ForteEXE3850
06/03/20 5:01:05 PM
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You don't know that they aren't.

The real answer through is people are generally ends justify the means and do not judge actions equally, they only care about getting their desired result.
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FrozenBananas
06/03/20 5:04:45 PM
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a better question:

why are the people who protested lockdowns now saying why are people protesting police brutality?! I thought there was a pandemic! As if they ever cared about the pandemic in the first place?

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Veedrock-
06/03/20 5:05:39 PM
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Because a lockdown affects all hours of the day and a curfew doesn't?

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DirtBasedSoap
06/03/20 5:08:01 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
Because a lockdown affects all hours of the day and a curfew doesn't?
I was at least able to get food after 5pm during the lockdown

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ForteEXE3850
06/03/20 5:08:21 PM
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FrozenBananas posted...
why are the people who protested lockdowns now saying why are people protesting?! I thought there was a pandemic! As if they ever cared about the pandemic in the first place?

You don't know the groups of people saying there shouldn't be protests because of the pandemic are the same people who protested the lock downs.
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Lokarin
06/03/20 5:41:21 PM
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Cops accidentally pepper sprayed and handcuffed a Senator...

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-02-20/h_e3f8c09c0fb417ca3626ad0e8208f535

OOOOPS

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papercup
06/03/20 5:46:26 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Cops accidentally pepper sprayed and handcuffed a Senator...

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-02-20/h_e3f8c09c0fb417ca3626ad0e8208f535

OOOOPS

That wasn't an accident.

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Hop103
06/03/20 5:51:23 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Cops accidentally pepper sprayed and handcuffed a Senator...

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-02-20/h_e3f8c09c0fb417ca3626ad0e8208f535

OOOOPS


They're going to get sued for that.
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Zeus
06/03/20 5:53:19 PM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
Seems like the same idea.

What?

HornedLion posted...
I thought the same. Probably because theyre the most partisan motherfuckers on the planet, and so they dont see the curfew as infringing on their rights. The same way they didnt see the Patriot Act as infringing on their rights.

What?

Veedrock- posted...
Because a lockdown affects all hours of the day and a curfew doesn't?

Among other problems with this false comparison.

Lokarin posted...
Cops accidentally pepper sprayed and handcuffed a Senator...

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-02-20/h_e3f8c09c0fb417ca3626ad0e8208f535

OOOOPS

State senator. Pretty massive distinction between a senator (which refers to the US senate) and a state senator. I don't fault you for not knowing this because even a lot of Americans don't know the fucking difference despite voting on state senators

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_legislature_(United_States)

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Lokarin
06/03/20 5:53:47 PM
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Zeus posted...
State senator. Pretty massive distinction between a senator (which refers to the US senate) and a state senator. I don't fault you for not knowing this because even a lot of Americans don't know the f***ing difference despite voting on state senators

Neat

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Muscles
06/03/20 7:02:52 PM
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I'm angry about the lockdown, police brutality, riots hurting small businesses/innocent individuals, and curfews

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BeerOnTap
06/03/20 7:16:34 PM
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Because the lockdowns were destroying their business and livelihoods, whereas the curfews can help protect them from being burned to the ground.

Why arent the people who shamed the anti lockdown gatherings and called them COVIDIOTS willing to call out the current protests/riots/looting for gathering in huge crowds and not using masks?
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HornedLion
06/03/20 9:36:04 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
Why arent the people who shamed the anti lockdown gatherings and called them COVIDIOTS willing to call out the current protests/riots/looting for gathering in huge crowds and not using masks?

They were idiots for not using masks just like those who are protesting now who dont where masks. Are you upset that the topic has been Peaceful protestors are getting gassed, shot with rubber bullets, and being victimized by police brutality(the thing theyre protesting instead of Some of these protestors arent wearing mask!?


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ssj4supervegeta
06/03/20 9:43:52 PM
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Muscles posted...
I'm angry about the lockdown, police brutality, riots hurting small businesses/innocent individuals, and curfews
no no. you are only allowed 1 set of opinions. If you follow any 1 opinion differing from my own. you're not only on the opposite side as me. you're also subject to whatever set of beliefs i associate with that side.

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ninja_lootz
06/03/20 11:39:31 PM
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Because they don't want to get the shit kicked out of them by mobs yelling "Shoot all the white people!"

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papercup
06/03/20 11:44:54 PM
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ninja_lootz posted...
Because they don't want to get the shit kicked out of them by mobs yelling "Shoot all the white people!"

who the fuck is saying that?

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BlackScythe0
06/03/20 11:46:59 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Cops accidentally pepper sprayed and handcuffed a Senator...

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-06-02-20/h_e3f8c09c0fb417ca3626ad0e8208f535

OOOOPS

Accidentally? Like they care about rule of law with some of the most open brutal assaults on citizens we've seen in the nations history recently.
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DrYuya
06/04/20 3:11:41 AM
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HornedLion posted...
Are you upset that the topic has been Peaceful protestors are getting gassed, shot with rubber bullets, and being victimized by police brutality(the thing theyre protesting instead of Some of these protestors arent wearing mask!?

Yes, I'm pretty upset about that actually. Been whined at constantly by crazies that I'm going to KILL multiple grandmothers who are somehow wandering about during a super pandemic not protecting themselves. So far not even a full percent of the population is even likely to die this year though but me going out freely to keep from going insane in the house with two kids is NOT okay.

An even smaller % of police brutality situations (the kind that the news jumps on that never even tell a complete story) happen...and it's okay to bust out with the dumbass signs and cocktails and gather in mass to burn down other people's property though because reasons.

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Xfma100
06/04/20 3:49:16 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
whereas the curfews can help protect them from being burned to the ground.

How does that stop riots, looting, and fires that happen outside of curfew hours though?

Not to mention that in some states citizens aren't allowed on the outside portion of their property during curfew hours. Which is ridiculous.
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Krow_Incarnate
06/04/20 4:20:15 AM
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Because the country's in the process of opening up again?

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DrYuya
06/04/20 4:36:59 AM
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DrYuya posted...
Yes, I'm pretty upset about that actually. Been whined at constantly by crazies that I'm going to KILL multiple grandmothers who are somehow wandering about during a super pandemic not protecting themselves. So far not even a full percent of the population is even likely to die this year though but me going out freely to keep from going insane in the house with two kids is NOT okay.

An even smaller % of police brutality situations (the kind that the news jumps on that never even tell a complete story) happen...and it's okay to bust out with the dumbass signs and molotav cocktails and gather in mass to burn down other people's property though because reasons.


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BeerOnTap
06/04/20 8:12:12 AM
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HornedLion posted...
They were idiots for not using masks just like those who are protesting now who dont where masks. Are you upset that the topic has been Peaceful protestors are getting gassed, shot with rubber bullets, and being victimized by police brutality(the thing theyre protesting instead of Some of these protestors arent wearing mask!?

The topic has been rioters and looters burn and loot random businesses and destroy random property. Which is sad that those who want to peacefully protest have had their movement hijacked by jerks.
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LinkPizza
06/04/20 8:51:31 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
Because the lockdowns were destroying their business and livelihoods, whereas the curfews can help protect them from being burned to the ground.

I think this is the main reason...

BeerOnTap posted...
Why arent the people who shamed the anti lockdown gatherings and called them COVIDIOTS willing to call out the current protests/riots/looting for gathering in huge crowds and not using masks?

I was also wondering this. Though, I have seen some protest pictures where some people were wearing them, so IDK...
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Nichtcrawler X
06/04/20 9:08:31 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...


Why arent the people who shamed the anti lockdown gatherings and called them COVIDIOTS willing to call out the current protests/riots/looting for gathering in huge crowds and not using masks?

Here, at the very least the protest on the Dam was and was handled about as poorly as it could have been without actually escalating the situation. Every protest I have seen footage of here since then, had people standing/sitting in formation while maintaining the 1.5m distancing ordnance.

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adjl
06/04/20 10:22:41 AM
#29:


BeerOnTap posted...
Why arent the people who shamed the anti lockdown gatherings and called them COVIDIOTS willing to call out the current protests/riots/looting for gathering in huge crowds and not using masks?

Because protesting police brutality is a more justifiable reason to neglect distancing measures than protesting not being able to go golfing or get a haircut. Gathering in large crowds and not wearing a mask is still a bad idea, and I'm always glad when I see pictures of protests that are more responsibly distanced and where people have masks on, but these gatherings are in an effort to solve an actual problem, not just because people are being whiny entitled babies.

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Mead
06/04/20 10:27:01 AM
#30:


Theyre scared of a certain demographic

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papercup
06/04/20 10:55:48 AM
#31:


https://i.redd.it/lkz56h4kvs251.jpg

This is why people laughed at the lockdown protests, and why thousands and thousands all across the country are protesting now.

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EvilMegas
06/04/20 10:58:16 AM
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Member when the nation buckled to people wanting haircuts and chipotle but stood firm against killing people for no reason?

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ninja_lootz
06/04/20 2:13:18 PM
#33:


papercup posted...
https://i.redd.it/lkz56h4kvs251.jpg

This is why people laughed at the lockdown protests, and why thousands and thousands all across the country are protesting now.
You guys called these people terrorists: https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1582099/michigan.jpg

Then called these people peaceful protesters: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZiGFEAWAAAFUHw?format=jpg&name=large

Hey look, I can do it too.

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Zareth
06/04/20 4:48:38 PM
#34:


I see you avoided posting pictures of the armed people standing outside government buildings demanding that lock-downs end, as well as pictures of BLM protesters being tear gassed and pepper sprayed by the police.

Hey look, I can pick and choose images to suit my narrative too.

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Veedrock-
06/04/20 5:05:27 PM
#35:


Zareth posted...
Hey look, I can pick and choose images to suit my narrative too.
That was his point >_>

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Zareth
06/04/20 5:07:18 PM
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It's a fucking shit point.

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ninja_lootz
06/04/20 5:12:36 PM
#38:


Zareth posted...
I see you avoided posting pictures of the armed people standing outside government buildings demanding that lock-downs end, as well as pictures of BLM protesters being tear gassed and pepper sprayed by the police.

Hey look, I can pick and choose images to suit my narrative too.
Maybe if they had guns then they wouldn't have gotten pepper sprayed.

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GanonsSpirit
06/04/20 5:17:47 PM
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ninja_lootz posted...
Maybe if they had guns then they wouldn't have gotten pepper sprayed.

You're right. They probably would have been shot instead.
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Veedrock-
06/04/20 5:20:44 PM
#40:


Zareth posted...
It's a fucking shit point.
Then why were you trying to make the same one back at him?

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ninja_lootz
06/04/20 5:32:39 PM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
You're right. They probably would have been shot instead.
No, because if you shoot at people that have guns they have a tendency to shoot back.

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Monopoman
06/04/20 5:40:09 PM
#43:


EvilMegas posted...
Member when the nation buckled to people wanting haircuts and chipotle but stood firm against killing people for no reason?

/QFT

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Veedrock-
06/04/20 6:30:30 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
Member when the nation buckled to people wanting haircuts and chipotle but stood firm against killing people for no reason?
Pretending you're right (you're not), you're completely ignoring the time table. Michigan, which had armed protestors in the capital building on May 1st, is only lifting some restrictions starting June 8th, over a month later. You call that "buckled." Now expand the perimeter to the 30+ states that still won't allow non-essential businesses and your observation isn't flawed, it's fabrication.

Now because an embedded systemic problem wasn't fixed in 5 days, the country doesn't care and is standing with it. Smh.

ninja_lootz posted...
No, because if you shoot at people that have guns they have a tendency to shoot back.
Exactly, it's mutually assured destruction. Cops aren't looking for a war, and they sure as shit don't want a fair fight. Cops aren't going to shoot at armed protestors because they don't want to get shot back at, none of them are going to put their life on the line like that.

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WhiskeyDisk
06/04/20 6:39:09 PM
#45:


FrozenBananas posted...
a better question:

why are the people who protested lockdowns now saying why are people protesting police brutality?! I thought there was a pandemic! As if they ever cared about the pandemic in the first place?

You do know that works both ways right? The same people that were crying about social distancing and masks during the lockdowns protests are the same people congregating in large numbers and throwing bricks through storefront windows now without a shred of self awareness.

It's all partisan performance art.

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EvilMegas
06/04/20 9:08:00 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
Pretending you're right (you're not), you're completely ignoring the time table. Michigan, which had armed protestors in the capital building on May 1st, is only lifting some restrictions starting June 8th, over a month later. You call that "buckled." Now expand the perimeter to the 30+ states that still won't allow non-essential businesses and your observation isn't flawed, it's fabrication.

Now because an embedded systemic problem wasn't fixed in 5 days, the country doesn't care and is standing with it. Smh.
I guess you missed the part where the president pressured states by siding with the protesters.

And I guess this is the first time blacks have ever protested against police brutality in your eyes?

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Monopoman
06/04/20 10:23:39 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
I guess you missed the part where the president pressured states by siding with the protesters.

And I guess this is the first time blacks have ever protested against police brutality in your eyes?

Yep, Trump was really urging states to re-open and he was talking about re-opening shortly after we went into the stay home thing. Trumps number two concern after how good he looks is the economy, the worse things are economically when the voting for President actually starts the more people will be voting for someone else.

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Gaawa_chan
06/04/20 10:37:14 PM
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Because they lied about why they were upset.

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adjl
06/05/20 12:04:21 AM
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ninja_lootz posted...
No, because if you shoot at people that have guns they have a tendency to shoot back.

And that's a really great way to end up with an absolute massacre. Enough protesters show up with guns to eliminate the arms advantage SWAT teams have (which is already considerable and not about to be changed by a couple handguns)? The National Guard rolls in tanks and the military shows up to quell what can now be called an armed insurrection. Protesters - peaceful or otherwise - are slaughtered by the thousands, and the government can justify it because they were shooting at police.

ninja_lootz posted...
You guys called these people terrorists: https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/1582099/michigan.jpg

No, "terrorists" was exclusively used for those that threatened violence, particularly the ones who staged an armed invasion of the state capitol building (and were completely unharmed and not actually charged with anything because apparently an armed terrorist threat is less objectionable than peacefully protesting). The peaceful lockdown protesters were just idiots.

ninja_lootz posted...
Then called these people peaceful protesters: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZiGFEAWAAAFUHw?format=jpg&name=large

No, those are rioters. Nobody's objecting to them being dealt with like rioters. The objection is to the violent response to people who are protesting peacefully. There are countless videos and accounts out there of people being shot with rubber bullets or tear gas who are very obviously doing nothing wrong. Riots are chaotic situations, certainly, and it can be difficult to differentiate between troublemakers and those that are acting peacefully, but there is no defense for shooting deliberately at people lying on the ground, or that are carrying an injured friend to safety, or that are simply taking a video from their doorstep (all of which have been documented occurrences).

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ninja_lootz
06/05/20 1:01:39 AM
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adjl posted...
And that's a really great way to end up with an absolute massacre. Enough protesters show up with guns to eliminate the arms advantage SWAT teams have (which is already considerable and not about to be changed by a couple handguns)? The National Guard rolls in tanks and the military shows up to quell what can now be called an armed insurrection. Protesters - peaceful or otherwise - are slaughtered by the thousands, and the government can justify it because they were shooting at police.

No, "terrorists" was exclusively used for those that threatened violence, particularly the ones who staged an armed invasion of the state capitol building (and were completely unharmed and not actually charged with anything because apparently an armed terrorist threat is less objectionable than peacefully protesting). The peaceful lockdown protesters were just idiots.

No, those are rioters. Nobody's objecting to them being dealt with like rioters. The objection is to the violent response to people who are protesting peacefully. There are countless videos and accounts out there of people being shot with rubber bullets or tear gas who are very obviously doing nothing wrong. Riots are chaotic situations, certainly, and it can be difficult to differentiate between troublemakers and those that are acting peacefully, but there is no defense for shooting deliberately at people lying on the ground, or that are carrying an injured friend to safety, or that are simply taking a video from their doorstep (all of which have been documented occurrences).
Yeah, no.

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Monopoman
06/05/20 1:12:22 AM
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adjl posted...
And that's a really great way to end up with an absolute massacre. Enough protesters show up with guns to eliminate the arms advantage SWAT teams have (which is already considerable and not about to be changed by a couple handguns)? The National Guard rolls in tanks and the military shows up to quell what can now be called an armed insurrection. Protesters - peaceful or otherwise - are slaughtered by the thousands, and the government can justify it because they were shooting at police.

No, "terrorists" was exclusively used for those that threatened violence, particularly the ones who staged an armed invasion of the state capitol building (and were completely unharmed and not actually charged with anything because apparently an armed terrorist threat is less objectionable than peacefully protesting). The peaceful lockdown protesters were just idiots.

No, those are rioters. Nobody's objecting to them being dealt with like rioters. The objection is to the violent response to people who are protesting peacefully. There are countless videos and accounts out there of people being shot with rubber bullets or tear gas who are very obviously doing nothing wrong. Riots are chaotic situations, certainly, and it can be difficult to differentiate between troublemakers and those that are acting peacefully, but there is no defense for shooting deliberately at people lying on the ground, or that are carrying an injured friend to safety, or that are simply taking a video from their doorstep (all of which have been documented occurrences).

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WhiskeyDisk
06/05/20 1:13:32 AM
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adjl posted...
And that's a really great way to end up with an absolute massacre. Enough protesters show up with guns to eliminate the arms advantage SWAT teams have (which is already considerable and not about to be changed by a couple handguns)? The National Guard rolls in tanks and the military shows up to quell what can now be called an armed insurrection. Protesters - peaceful or otherwise - are slaughtered by the thousands, and the government can justify it because they were shooting at police.

No, "terrorists" was exclusively used for those that threatened violence, particularly the ones who staged an armed invasion of the state capitol building (and were completely unharmed and not actually charged with anything because apparently an armed terrorist threat is less objectionable than peacefully protesting). The peaceful lockdown protesters were just idiots.

No, those are rioters. Nobody's objecting to them being dealt with like rioters. The objection is to the violent response to people who are protesting peacefully. There are countless videos and accounts out there of people being shot with rubber bullets or tear gas who are very obviously doing nothing wrong. Riots are chaotic situations, certainly, and it can be difficult to differentiate between troublemakers and those that are acting peacefully, but there is no defense for shooting deliberately at people lying on the ground, or that are carrying an injured friend to safety, or that are simply taking a video from their doorstep (all of which have been documented occurrences).

You might want to read up on "Ruby Ridge".

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Zeus
06/05/20 1:28:24 AM
#53:


HornedLion posted...
They were idiots for not using masks just like those who are protesting now who dont where masks

>Calls people idiots
>Doesn't know "wear" from "where"

HornedLion posted...
Are you upset that the topic has been Peaceful protestors are getting gassed, shot with rubber bullets, and being victimized by police brutality(the thing theyre protesting instead of

They're not peaceful protestors.


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