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KamikazePotato 06/01/20 8:46:02 PM #1: |
Inspired by a conversation on The Show about a potential Best Story contest, I decided to host a nomination topic maybe expecting 25 or so participants, but Board 8 really came out and showed their enthusiasm for the idea. 52 participants submitted a list of their Top 10 favorite stories, supporting 200 individual games across all submissions, producing a final list that personally speaking has a wide variety of games with excellent stories from all sorts of different genres, systems, and decades.
1. How was the list decided? I initially weighted the voting for each Top 10 list in a +10, +9...+2, +1 way, but later changed the weighting to be more like +10, +9, +8.5...+5, +4. This helped out games that were on multiple lists but necessarily high on peoples lists, and ended up feeling much more fair. Furthermore, I limited the final list to games with three or more supporters, as just two ardent supporters getting a game onto a list representative of all of Board 8 felt iffy. This only snubbed a few games, and that ones that were snubbed will be mentioned. 2. Why a Top 60? Looking at how the submissions ended up, it just felt right. Any less snubbed some big names, any more and the points-per-game started to get really low. 3. The games at the beginning of the list dont seem to have many points. The list ended up very top-heavy. I honestly could have made this a Top 30 and it would have made just as much sense, but decided to err on the side of including a lot of games, because why not? More fun that way. Before we start, heres some fun facts! 1. Out of the 200 individual games supported across all lists, 106 were only supported by one person. Our tastes ended up being surprisingly varied! Of those 106 games, 10 received a single +4 vote (the lowest possible vote after points were weighted) from a single person. 2. Special note goes to Her Story, which received three +4 votes and nothing else. Not nearly enough to make the final list based on points, but hey, making that many lists is still praiseworthy. 3. Eight games received a single +10 vote and nothing else. They may not be the most popular kid in class, but theyre already found someone who loves them. They were: Bastion Bomberman 64: The Second Attack! Lenna's Inception Night in the Woods Phantasy Star 2 Terranigma The Beginner's Guide The Longest Journey 4. Three games were featured in two submissions and would have barely made the final list if I hadnt implemented the at least three supporters rule. Sorry, but thems the breaks! They were: Deus Ex Sonic Adventure 2 80 Days Special mention goes to Deus Ex, which received two +10 votes and nothing else. That...doesnt surprise me. 5. For a long time, the overall #1 spot was a tie between two games. I was disappointed when one of them ended up running away with it. 6. The Top 20 will all get banners and writeups. Ill post some more fun facts throughout the topic if I think of some more. Without further ado, lets begin. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Great_Paul 06/01/20 8:47:57 PM #2: |
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Leonhart4 06/01/20 8:48:15 PM #3: |
Wow, and here I thought no one appreciated Bomberman 64 like I do
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Hbthebattle 06/01/20 8:48:23 PM #4: |
Here we go!
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Hbthebattle 06/01/20 8:49:11 PM #5: |
Also, surprised only one person put NitW on a list. It seems pretty beloved here
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XIII_rocks 06/01/20 8:49:50 PM #6: |
Great! Tag
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KamikazePotato 06/01/20 8:50:22 PM #7: |
Hbthebattle posted...
Also, surprised only one person put NitW on a list. It seems pretty beloved hereIt definitely surprised me. Then again, a lot about this list surprised me. Leonhart4 posted... Wow, and here I thought no one appreciated Bomberman 64 like I doThe Second Attack rocks. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xiahou Shake 06/01/20 8:51:26 PM #8: |
Woot woot, tag!
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Mac Arrowny 06/01/20 8:53:34 PM #9: |
Deus Ex definitely would've belonged. Probably would've voted for it in a top 20.
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MetalmindStats 06/01/20 8:55:20 PM #10: |
KamikazePotato posted...
Night in the WoodsWell, I can already see this list won't be going well for me. I already wasn't expecting much, but now I'm going to guess that two of my ten choices making the list is a suitable over/under point. --- "I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people who do." azuarc won the 2020 Guru Contest because he avoided picking rashly. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 06/01/20 8:56:31 PM #11: |
Who my Deus Ex brother
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Shonen_Bat 06/01/20 8:56:31 PM #12: |
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Terranigma definitely would've been on my list if I remembered it --- Hello again. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Drakeryn 06/01/20 8:56:31 PM #13: |
Night in the Woods was a last-second cut for me, I really like it but it was tough to pare things down to just ten.
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ZenOfThunder 06/01/20 8:57:10 PM #14: |
can't wait to see how high up heavy rain placed
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pezzicle 06/01/20 8:57:27 PM #15: |
Shonen_Bat posted...
TagThat was my last cut --- Tribe Time! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gall 06/01/20 9:00:45 PM #16: |
Guessing Bastion got LFFd by Transistor for the most part.
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Mega Mana 06/01/20 9:07:50 PM #17: |
Hoping my #2 makes the list, but I've got a gut feeling it's one of the 106.
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KamikazePotato 06/01/20 9:09:25 PM #19: |
Surprise 61st entrant! 60 just looked better in the topic title.
60 (tie). SOMA https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/735003-soma 18 Points 3 Submissions 60 (tie). Super Paper Mario https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/wii/933012-super-paper-mario 18 Points 3 Submissions 58 (tie). Gyakutan Kenji 2 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/605817-gyakuten-kenji-2 18.5 Points 3 Supporters 58 (tie). Yakuza 0 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/816306-yakuza-0 18.5 Points 3 Supporters There were more than a few ties, especially in the lower ranks. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pezzicle 06/01/20 9:09:29 PM #20: |
I'm actually really surprised that someone else didn't vote for Deus ex
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Hbthebattle 06/01/20 9:10:00 PM #21: |
Huh, so AA games that werent T&T DID make the list after all.
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Leonhart4 06/01/20 9:11:23 PM #22: |
Wow, Super Paper Mario. I hope that's not the only Mario game on the list...!
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Anagram 06/01/20 9:11:35 PM #23: |
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hylianknight3 06/01/20 9:15:07 PM #24: |
I had Super Paper Mario on my list forever. I ended up bumping it at the last minute.
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Raka_Putra 06/01/20 9:15:49 PM #25: |
My body is l@dy.
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KamikazePotato 06/01/20 9:16:54 PM #26: |
56 (tie). Outer Wilds
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/235023-outer-wilds 19.5 Points 3 Supporters 56 (tie). Gone Home https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/690564-gone-home 19.5 Points 3 Supporters 53 (tie). Vagrant Story https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps/914326-vagrant-story 20.5 Points 3 Supporters 53 (tie). Doki Doki Literature Club https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/222637-doki-doki-literature-club 20.5 Points 3 Supporters --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gall 06/01/20 9:19:16 PM #27: |
I recently replayed Super Paper Mario. It's even weirder than I remembered.
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Raka_Putra 06/01/20 9:19:34 PM #28: |
A shame I haven't finished Y0, it might get my vote if the story ends well.
I did vote for Gyakuten Kenji 2 at +1 though, glad it made the Top 60 cut. I really like how each case had its place in the bigger picture. --- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 06/01/20 9:19:44 PM #29: |
Actually, last one was a 3-way tie!
53 (tie). Dark Souls https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps3/606312-dark-souls 20.5 Points 3 Supporters --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 06/01/20 9:20:03 PM #30: |
I wanted to like Vagrant Story but man that battle system is awful
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FFDragon 06/01/20 9:22:08 PM #31: |
KamikazePotato posted...
53 (tie). Vagrant Story Oh man, that last minute change of mine paid off. (Mass Effect 2 got cut for it, sorry Leon.) I am also one of the three Her Story votes. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 06/01/20 9:22:50 PM #32: |
Ah DDLC is also here.
It's definitely chock-full of memorable moments, concepts, and characters, though the story itself is relatively short to the rest of the list so far. --- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 06/01/20 9:23:43 PM #33: |
Tag.
Super Paper Mario nice. I didn't vote for it but I do love that game's story. --- I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mega Mana 06/01/20 9:25:01 PM #34: |
DDLC and Gone Home were among my initial list, and almost gave a +1 or +2 to DDLC when I was deciding between my last few cuts.
Correction: When I say 'initial list,' I actually mean the forty-ish games I wrote down to choose from. --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 06/01/20 9:26:20 PM #35: |
FFDragon posted...
Oh man, that last minute change of mine paid off. (Mass Effect 2 got cut for it, sorry Leon.) It's all right. I didn't vote for ME2 either! --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZenOfThunder 06/01/20 9:26:25 PM #36: |
i'm happy people remember Super Paper Mario, yeah it's not TTYD but people act like Paper Mario completely died after TTYD and that Super had no redeeming qualities at all. It's legit not that bad
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Mega Mana 06/01/20 9:27:16 PM #37: |
ZenOfThunder posted...
i'm happy people remember Super Paper Mario, yeah it's not TTYD but people act like Paper Mario completely died after TTYD and that Super had no redeeming qualities at all. It's legit not that bad Agreed! --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 06/01/20 9:27:55 PM #38: |
No, I like Super Paper Mario. I just never would've considered it out of all the Mario RPG-esque games.
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Mac Arrowny 06/01/20 9:28:12 PM #39: |
oh ya go vagrant story
was Drakeryn the third VS voter? Surprised I've actually played 8 of the first 9 games (all but Soma) Leonhart4 posted... I wanted to like Vagrant Story but man that battle system is awful why talking about battle system this story topic --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 06/01/20 9:28:13 PM #40: |
I enjoyed Super Paper Mario a lot and was always surprised that people were so down on it.
I'll probably blow through the Bottom 20 tonight. I gave no patience when posting lists like these. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 06/01/20 9:28:44 PM #41: |
Mac Arrowny posted...
was Drakeryn the third VS voter?Yes. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 06/01/20 9:28:53 PM #42: |
Mac Arrowny posted...
oh ya go vagrant story It's why I didn't get to experience the story --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZenOfThunder 06/01/20 9:29:24 PM #43: |
KP you should post the entire top 60 right now in one post, banners be damned
here i'll post #1 for you to speed things along:
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KamikazePotato 06/01/20 9:29:52 PM #44: |
ZenOfThunder posted...
1. Deadly PremonitionIf only. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Exodecai 06/01/20 9:30:16 PM #45: |
*tags* I'm interested to see the final list
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pyresword 06/01/20 9:30:55 PM #46: |
I do actually think Super Paper Mario is the strongest Mario RPG story by a fair margin, from the ones I've played at least. (Notably(?) does not include Super Mario RPG)
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hylianknight3 06/01/20 9:31:24 PM #47: |
Super Paper Mario is a great game, and the story is probably the very best thing about it.
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TheArkOfTurus 06/01/20 9:32:10 PM #48: |
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Shonen_Bat 06/01/20 9:33:40 PM #49: |
Hey, Super Paper Mario and DDLC. I wasn't too sure about either one making the cut but I'm glad they both did.
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KamikazePotato 06/01/20 9:35:09 PM #50: |
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KamikazePotato 06/01/20 9:35:11 PM #51: |
52. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/xbox/556553-star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic 21 Points 4 Supporters 49 (tie). Tales of the Abyss https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/929343-tales-of-the-abyss 21.5 Points 3 Supporters 49 (tie). The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/n64/197770-the-legend-of-zelda-majoras-mask 21.5 Points 4 Supporters 49 (tie). Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/925589-phoenix-wright-ace-attorney 21.5 Points 3 Supporters --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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