Board 8 > Your First Thought 10: "game series with most inconsistent strength"

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ZenOfThunder 05/30/20 6:23:15 PM #1:	start dropping suggestions for future topics, put them in spoilers though so we don't get people thinking too early, this is supposed to be kneejerk reactions i am trying to do 3 threads for characters then 3 for games to put some kind of rhythm into this topic series Previous results: 1) Strongest non-Noble Niner: Zelda (Tifa, Squall, Bowser) 2) Weakest Noble Niner: Sonic (Crono, Sephiroth, Mega Man) 3) Fodder Line: Vyse (Isaac, Pac-Man, Revolver Ocelot) 4) Strongest Western Franchise: Witcher (Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls, Fallout) 5) Strongest Indie: Shovel Knight, Undertale (Hollow Knight, Cuphead, Stardew Valley) 6) Biggest GotD2 Snub: Pokemon Go (Skyward Sword, Smash 4, Mario 3D World) 7) TJF/"The Jug Factor": Tifa (Morrigan Aensland, Tina Armstrong, Jill Valentine) 8) Strongest Pokemon not in a Contest: Blastoise (Bulbasaur, Charmander, Greninja) 9) Most unpredictable character: Kefka (Alucard, Donkey Kong, Magus) --- (\|\| ' ' \|\|) Best. Female. Villain. Quote. Ever: . /\|_\|\ https://bit.ly/BfvqE [azuarc] <cite>ZenOfThunder posted [p:939950610] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>start dropping suggestions for future topics, put them in spoilers though so we don't get people thinking too early, this is supposed to be kneejerk reactions i am trying to do 3 threads for characters then 3 for games to put some kind of rhythm into this topic series Previous results: 1) Strongest non-Noble Niner: Zelda (Tifa, Squall, Bowser) 2) Weakest Noble Niner: Sonic (Crono, Sephiroth, Mega Man) 3) Fodder Line: Vyse (Isaac, Pac-Man, Revolver Ocelot) 4) Strongest Western Franchise: Witcher (Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls, Fallout) 5) Strongest Indie: Shovel Knight, Undertale (Hollow Knight, Cuphead, Stardew Valley) 6) Biggest GotD2 Snub: Pokemon Go (Skyward Sword, Smash 4, Mario 3D World) 7) TJF/"The Jug Factor": Tifa (Morrigan Aensland, Tina Armstrong, Jill Valentine) 8) Strongest Pokemon not in a Contest: Blastoise (Bulbasaur, Charmander, Greninja) 9) Most unpredictable character: Kefka (Alucard, Donkey Kong, Magus) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nameless2000 05/30/20 6:27:10 PM #2:	Inconsistent from game to game? I thought of Final Fantasy. --- n2k <cite>Nameless2000 posted [p:939950757] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Inconsistent from game to game? I thought of Final Fantasy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Janus5k 05/30/20 6:29:31 PM #3:	GTA Which isn't really a good answer since it's consistently a choker but I suppose the level of choke varies a lot --- As a guru, only azuarc truly knew what it meant to Reach for the Moon. <cite>Janus5k posted [p:939950837] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>GTA Which isn't really a good answer since it's consistently a choker but I suppose the level of choke varies a lot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
swirIdude 05/30/20 6:30:32 PM #4:	Final Fantasy, I guess? --- Azuarc is my favorite arc of the Game of the Decade 2020 anime. <cite>swirIdude posted [p:939950877] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy, I guess? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CasanovaZelos 05/30/20 6:30:46 PM #5:	GTA, though I'm not sure if that's backed up in any way? --- Film essays and reviews: https://www.youtube.com/c/foolfantastic Board 8's Top 250 Games 2016 Edition: https://casanovazelos.wordpress.com/2016/04/26/b8top250/ <cite>CasanovaZelos posted [p:939950887] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>GTA, though I'm not sure if that's backed up in any way? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drakeryn 05/30/20 6:30:53 PM #6:	my first thought was "Mass Effect because people hate the ending" not a good answer but it's what I thought of --- another place and time, without a great divide, and we could be flying deadly high <cite>Drakeryn posted [p:939950897] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>my first thought was "Mass Effect because people hate the ending" not a good answer but it's what I thought of</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 05/30/20 6:33:18 PM #7:	Pokemon --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:939951008] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Pokemon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lolo_Guru 05/30/20 6:33:56 PM #8:	Pokemon --- Lolo <cite>Lolo_Guru posted [p:939951038] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Pokemon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 05/30/20 6:34:14 PM #9:	Final Fantasy --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh Advokaiser <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:939951052] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hylianknight3 05/30/20 6:34:34 PM #10:	First thought was Pokmon. --- The azuarc of the contest universe is long, but it bends toward Guruship. <cite>hylianknight3 posted [p:939951072] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>First thought was Pokmon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jesse_Custer 05/30/20 6:35:18 PM #11:	Final Fantasy <cite>Jesse_Custer posted [p:939951105] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheArkOfTurus 05/30/20 6:36:47 PM #12:	Chrono, but I was mostly thinking of characters. Basically I'm always thinking of Magus, I guess? --- Our eyes were removed Because azuarc won the Guru. <cite>TheArkOfTurus posted [p:939951164] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Chrono, but I was mostly thinking of characters. Basically I'm always thinking of Magus, I guess? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BetrayedTangy 05/30/20 6:47:04 PM #13:	Pokemon --- Congrats azuarc! You crushed it in the GotD2 Guru challenge! <cite>BetrayedTangy posted [p:939951599] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Pokemon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xuxon 05/30/20 6:47:46 PM #14:	Halo. This time I really have no idea why. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif <cite>Xuxon posted [p:939951619] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Halo. This time I really have no idea why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kamekguy 05/30/20 7:04:38 PM #15:	Metal Gear came to mind first Like, Hell, just the fluctuation between contests for Metal Gear Solid 4 on its own is wild enough. Toss in that series decaying over the past five years and I don't think I could tell you with confidence that any numbered MGS game could beat something within its projected strength range. --- Mario Vs Cloud 2002: A Video Retrospective - https://youtu.be/1dx4t6H_K9Y Full Channel Available Here!: https://www.youtube.com/c/designingfor <cite>Kamekguy posted [p:939952273] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Metal Gear came to mind first Like, Hell, just the fluctuation between contests for Metal Gear Solid 4 on its own is wild enough. Toss in that series decaying over the past five years and I don't think I could tell you with confidence that any numbered MGS game could beat something within its projected strength range. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Haste_2 05/30/20 7:06:23 PM #16:	Mario came to mind first. Then again, this is assuming New Super Mario Bros. games count as part of the regular series, but they probably don't? Final Fantasy came to my mind next. FFVII is probably worth 85% on FFXV, so this choice makes more sense. --- Congrats to azuarc for winning the Guru challenge! <cite>Haste_2 posted [p:939952337] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Mario came to mind first. Then again, this is assuming New Super Mario Bros. games count as part of the regular series, but they probably don't? Final Fantasy came to my mind next. FFVII is probably worth 85% on FFXV, so this choice makes more sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WavedFan 05/30/20 7:14:47 PM #17:	Final Fantasy <cite>WavedFan posted [p:939952695] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yesmar_ 05/30/20 7:18:08 PM #18:	Halo --- Congrats on Advokaiser for winning the 2018 Guru Contest! Yesmar <cite>Yesmar_ posted [p:939952833] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Halo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 05/30/20 7:19:35 PM #19:	Nothing jumped to mind immediately, but then I figured Final Fantasy --- Come, azuarc, as you were As I want you to be <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:939952900] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Nothing jumped to mind immediately, but then I figured Final Fantasy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 05/30/20 7:32:11 PM #20:	Resident Evil --- It was Raccoon City's last chance and my last chance... My last escape. https://imgur.com/LAzHE1a - https://imgur.com/a/dwC3Dfu <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:939953474] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Resident Evil </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 05/30/20 7:33:50 PM #21:	I guess it depends on what you mean by "inconsistent." Do you mean in terms of each game being wildly different in terms of strength, or the series having wild fluctuations in strength from contest to contest? My thought was the latter, in which case, it's Halo. --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:939953538] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>I guess it depends on what you mean by "inconsistent." Do you mean in terms of each game being wildly different in terms of strength, or the series having wild fluctuations in strength from contest to contest? My thought was the latter, in which case, it's Halo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_SecretSquirrel 05/30/20 7:40:04 PM #22:	Grand Theft Auto --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! This line reserved for the true greatone, azuarc, winner of Game of the Decade! <cite>_SecretSquirrel posted [p:939953819] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Grand Theft Auto </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 05/30/20 7:51:00 PM #23:	Final Fantasy --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:939954248] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shonen_Bat 05/30/20 8:02:24 PM #24:	My first thought was Skyrim, which isn't a series. >_> The first actual series that came to mind was Kirby, but I'm not at all sure why. --- Hello again. <cite>Shonen_Bat posted [p:939954740] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>My first thought was Skyrim, which isn't a series. >_> The first actual series that came to mind was Kirby, but I'm not at all sure why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TotallyNotMI 05/30/20 8:12:52 PM #25:	Chrono Trigger --- I'm not sure who this MI guy is but he sounds sexy. <cite>TotallyNotMI posted [p:939955170] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Chrono Trigger </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ranticoot 05/30/20 8:39:21 PM #26:	Sonic I took into account both games themselves and the characters. Probably not the real answer though! --- Born to lose, live to win! Congratulations to azuarc on winning the Game of the Decade Guru Contest! <cite>Ranticoot posted [p:939956262] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Sonic I took into account both games themselves and the characters. Probably not the real answer though! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
th3l3fty 05/30/20 8:57:07 PM #27:	...Elder Scrolls --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -transience I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris <cite>th3l3fty posted [p:939956977] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>...Elder Scrolls</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UF8 05/30/20 9:24:14 PM #28:	phoenix wright <cite>UF8 posted [p:939958073] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>phoenix wright </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero 05/30/20 9:47:55 PM #29:	Final Fantasy --- MZero, to the extreme I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru! <cite>MZero posted [p:939958988] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoElfboy 05/30/20 9:55:02 PM #30:	Pokemon. Its strength both varies greatly from game to game, and from contest to contest. --- The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.com An unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion <cite>NeoElfboy posted [p:939959259] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Pokemon. Its strength both varies greatly from game to game, and from contest to contest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bryans7 05/30/20 9:56:28 PM #31:	Final Fantasy --- https://imgur.com/g8JFMhA <cite>bryans7 posted [p:939959334] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 05/30/20 10:13:26 PM #32:	Fallout --- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:939960065] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Fallout </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LiquidOshawott 05/30/20 10:19:22 PM #33:	Mario Now here me out, It ranges from world killer to choke artist. Tons of people pick the Mario games to do well and in some cases they appear indirectly strong and yet, they still get disappointing results. You wouldnt expect inconsistency from arguably the third strongest NNer --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VI <cite>LiquidOshawott posted [p:939960309] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Mario Now here me out, It ranges from world killer to choke artist. Tons of people pick the Mario games to do well and in some cases they appear indirectly strong and yet, they still get disappointing results. You wouldnt expect inconsistency from arguably the third strongest NNer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_SecretSquirrel 05/30/20 10:22:24 PM #34:	LiquidOshawott posted... Mario Now here me out, It ranges from world killer to choke artist. Tons of people pick the Mario games to do well and in some cases they appear indirectly strong and yet, they still get disappointing results. You wouldnt expect inconsistency from arguably the third strongest NNer Not going to lie, this is why I never really feared Odyssey vs. Smash. Odyssey came out, and Mario turns around and nearly loses to Samus twice. How the hell was this game supposed to topple EVERYONE IS HERE? --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! This line reserved for the true greatone, azuarc, winner of Game of the Decade! <cite>_SecretSquirrel posted [p:939960426] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>LiquidOshawott posted... </cite> <quote>Mario Now here me out, It ranges from world killer to choke artist. Tons of people pick the Mario games to do well and in some cases they appear indirectly strong and yet, they still get disappointing results. You wouldnt expect inconsistency from arguably the third strongest NNer</quote>Not going to lie, this is why I never really feared Odyssey vs. Smash. Odyssey came out, and Mario turns around and nearly loses to Samus twice. How the hell was this game supposed to topple EVERYONE IS HERE? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji 05/30/20 10:24:51 PM #35:	Metal Gear Solid --- Menji+ https://imgur.com/F5UEyUw \| https://imgur.com/pPZsSZU Congrats to azuarc! [ https://myanimelist.net/profile/Menjii ] <cite>Menji posted [p:939960519] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Metal Gear Solid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 05/30/20 10:39:50 PM #36:	LiquidOshawott posted... Mario Now here me out, It ranges from world killer to choke artist. Tons of people pick the Mario games to do well and in some cases they appear indirectly strong and yet, they still get disappointing results. You wouldnt expect inconsistency from arguably the third strongest NNer I mean, it's all pretty easily explainable and understandable which ones are strong and which ones aren't. It's not shocking to see that Sunshine and New Super Mario Bros. aren't strong. this sounds like someone who got Halo 3/Mario Sunshine wrong...! --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:939961108] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>LiquidOshawott posted... </cite> <quote>Mario Now here me out, It ranges from world killer to choke artist. Tons of people pick the Mario games to do well and in some cases they appear indirectly strong and yet, they still get disappointing results. You wouldnt expect inconsistency from arguably the third strongest NNer</quote> I mean, it's all pretty easily explainable and understandable which ones are strong and which ones aren't. It's not shocking to see that Sunshine and New Super Mario Bros. aren't strong. this sounds like someone who got Halo 3/Mario Sunshine wrong...! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LiquidOshawott 05/30/20 11:21:56 PM #37:	I think I actually got that one right, was thinking more Galaxy 2/Mass Effect. Edit: wait, I checked, I did lol. But I got Halo 1 > Sunshine so I didnt completely fall flat --- I live on, THROUGH THIS SEASHELL! VI <cite>LiquidOshawott posted [p:939962928] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>I think I actually got that one right, was thinking more Galaxy 2/Mass Effect. Edit: wait, I checked, I did lol. But I got Halo 1 > Sunshine so I didnt completely fall flat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LOLIAmAnAlt 05/30/20 11:23:25 PM #38:	Castlevania But thats because I just came from the Castlevania topic. --- lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll <cite>LOLIAmAnAlt posted [p:939962996] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Castlevania But thats because I just came from the Castlevania topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evillordexdeath 05/30/20 11:24:50 PM #39:	Final Fantasy Based on the assumption that we mean inconsistent strength between individual games. --- I'm playing every game from GotD 2020! Games Completed: 3/129 Currently Playing: Mass Effect <cite>Evillordexdeath posted [p:939963062] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy Based on the assumption that we mean inconsistent strength between individual games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mega Mana 05/30/20 11:25:55 PM #40:	Final Fantasy was first thought --- "In my headcanon, some staffer saw Trump pull out his phone and start typing so they just Terry Tate Office Linebacker'd him out of his shoes." - FFD <cite>Mega Mana posted [p:939963105] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy was first thought </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tgs2 05/30/20 11:29:18 PM #41:	Mario. I also thought of GTA, but they have actually been consistent. They just keep getting upset by relative unknowns. <cite>tgs2 posted [p:939963231] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Mario. I also thought of GTA, but they have actually been consistent. They just keep getting upset by relative unknowns. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Utility Man 05/30/20 11:37:56 PM #42:	Final Fantasy --- 1st Year OMG Link Always Wins. 2nd Year OMG FF7 Always Wins. 3rd Year OMG Link Always Wins. 2101st Year OMG CATS Always Wins. <cite>The Utility Man posted [p:939963584] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Final Fantasy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_SecretSquirrel 05/30/20 11:39:31 PM #43:	I was thinking this was "game series performing different from season to season", if only because every long running series has entrants of different strength. --- Agent Triple Zero at your service! This line reserved for the true greatone, azuarc, winner of Game of the Decade! <cite>_SecretSquirrel posted [p:939963659] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>I was thinking this was "game series performing different from season to season", if only because every long running series has entrants of different strength. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan 05/30/20 11:41:43 PM #44:	Donkey Kong --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! <cite>Seanchan posted [p:939963746] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>Donkey Kong </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightning Strikes 05/31/20 9:42:06 AM #45:	The thing with Mario is, if you stick to the core Super Mario series, even the duds we have seen are not that weak. NSMBWii and Sunshine both finished in the top half of the xstats for GotD1, and NSMBWii actually looked alright. So not that inconsistent. I think the only Super Mario game (not counting Run lols) weaker than Sunshine is NSMB2, which we have never seen outside of series polls! So I actually think Super Mario is quite consistent. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh Advokaiser <cite>Lightning Strikes posted [p:939977198] in Your First... [t:78733033]...</cite> <quote>The thing with Mario is, if you stick to the core Super Mario series, even the duds we have seen are not that weak. NSMBWii and Sunshine both finished in the top half of the xstats for GotD1, and NSMBWii actually looked alright. So not that inconsistent. I think the only Super Mario game (not counting Run lols) weaker than Sunshine is NSMB2, which we have never seen outside of series polls! So I actually think Super Mario is quite consistent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > Your First Thought 10: "game series with most inconsistent strength"