Board 8 > Jojo Mafia Topic 6: Stone Ocean

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Corrik can you explain your actions please. Have you actually done anything?

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changmas posted...

1. Damion - scum bomb layer
2. Lea - Joshu Higashikata, TOWN Yasuho Detector
3. Plum- Doc?
4. Ben- unclaimed
5. Han- vanilla with a stand
6. Death - Pocoloco, TOWN Vanilla
7. Abacus - TOWN Cop (unnamed flavor)
8. Sultan- unclaimed but scanned clean?
9. Corrik - Noriaki Kakyoin - TOWN Possessor (redirector)
10. Chang - Joseph Joestar, TOWN Predictor
11. Bolt: REO Speedwagon, Town Vanilla

I believe this is every claim so far, although I might be missing a couple

Edited in Damion, Han, and my own info
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Based on that, Ben still looks the best lynch right now, being the only unclaimed other than Sultan

Also, for funsies, I am Bruno Bucciarati. I have sticky fingers.

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By the way if day ends for whatever reason just refer back to whatever plan was finalized. I want to see if we can do something a bit more complicated but if we accidentally hammer and nothing's finalized just ignore everything since the original plan

Corrik can you redirect Chang tonight?

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Leanansidhe posted...

A few games back there was a roleblocker that couldn't stop factional kills, we're sure Chang can right?

masterplum posted...

Yeah Chang. Can you confirm you stop kills

My role text says I can prevent someone from using a night action. I don't see any reason why that wouldn't prevent a factional kill carried out by whoever I roleblock. I can ask the mod to confirm that if we really need me to, though.

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There's a low but nonzero chance corrik and Chang are still scum. Let's see if we can have corrik redirect Chang to bolt/ben

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masterplum posted...

Corrik can you redirect Chang tonight?

Plum do you just not read anything I post?

fire_bolt posted...

Chang only has more role blocks if he correctly predicted the lynch, and he predicted Death would get lynched today IIRC. We can't rely on that to stop a faction kill. We've got doc saves and cop scans and that is it. You all know the drill, this is straight forward Follow The Cop.

changmas posted...

My role text says I can prevent someone from using a night action. I don't see any reason why that wouldn't prevent a factional kill carried out by whoever I roleblock. I can ask the mod to confirm that if we really need me to, though.

Chang, can you confirm for us you will or will not be able to RB someone tonight?
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fire_bolt posted...

Plum do you just not read anything I post?

Chang, can you confirm for us you will or will not be able to RB someone tonight?

I predicted a Death lynch today, so I cannot roleblock anyone. If Corrik redirects me, he will simply redirect my prediction for tomorrow's lynch to whomever he targets.

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Oh yeah I'm Johnathan joestar, vanilla. I've never had a reason to claim

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And I have no stand. Which I made too clear on day 1 when I defended Red's claim >.>

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Damnit Ben, why do you have to be so believeable. You've got me doubting the whole game again.

*goes to look over the list of claims*
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Watching Fantasia right now myself. Dont do anything weird now
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fire_bolt posted...

Damnit Ben, why do you have to be so believeable. You've got me doubting the whole game again.

*goes to look over the list of claims*

Press f to doubt
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Yeah I still think bolt is the play today.

But I want to corrik to redirect Chang in case

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##vote: Firebolt

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masterplum posted...

Yeah I still think bolt is the play today.

But I want to corrik to redirect Chang in case

I won't be redirecting Chang

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Lea - Joshu Higashikata, TOWN Yasuho Detector [Scanned clean I think?]
Plum- Doc? [I have 100% faith in this claim]
Abacus - TOWN Cop (unnamed flavor) [Has not actually returned a scum result yet? Could be super long gaming us]
Corrik - Noriaki Kakyoin - TOWN Possessor (redirector) [Was roleblocked and a nightkill still happened]
Chang - Joseph Joestar, TOWN Predictor [Playing too cleanly to be scum. I am 100% confident Chang is town]

Ben- Johnathan Joestar, Vanilla
Death - Pocoloco, TOWN Vanilla [Scanned clean IIRC, if we can trust the cop claim]
Bolt: REO Speedwagon, Town Vanilla
Sultan- unclaimed but scanned clean?

Does anyone else feel like that might be too many power roles for town? But specific flavor detector and Tracker is definitely not enough Investigate roles for town. I don't actually doubt Abacus, I'm just trying to feel out options. I'm about 95% sure Ben is our last scum and he's just good enough at the game he's got me doubting myself.

@ViolentAbacus I'm sorry to be an issue but would you mind posting a list of exactly who you scanned on which nights again?
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fire_bolt posted...

Abacus - TOWN Cop (unnamed flavor) [Has not actually returned a scum result yet? Could be super long gaming us]

He scanned Damion three nights ago.

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Though if I was scum I would have totally tried some cheeky thing to confirm myself early day 1 with this whole stand system.

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Letting Lea wait 12 days to lose as scum is particularly a swell idea to me.

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changmas posted...

He scanned Damion three nights ago.

Right, I remember now. Ok, back to being confident in my read of the game. Lynch Ben, win today folks. I think every other single player except Ben and myself checks out either through direct action or highly believeable claim.
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changmas posted...

He scanned Damion three nights ago.

That.

But from what I remember:

Death - it failed
IGCD - He died immediately afterwards
Damion
Sultan
Death again (mainly because of Corrik)

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Also, named my flavor above:

Also, for funsies, I am Bruno Bucciarati. I have sticky fingers.

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Lea has yet to be scanned.

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Wait, so Lea's not been scanned actually? Neat. All things considered I've come around to believing her claim (since she claimed Yashou DETECTOR well before IGCD revealed flavor) but her alignment could still be up in the air. Damn. I still think Ben is the right play today.
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As of yet no. I've put it off because she was the first vote on two Scum - and voted with every one of them. Went with Sultan over her because he always voted against the group. Then went Death because Corrik and other people kept coming around to him.

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fire_bolt posted...

Wait, so Lea's not been scanned actually? Neat. All things considered I've come around to believing her claim (since she claimed Yashou DETECTOR well before IGCD revealed flavor) but her alignment could still be up in the air. Damn. I still think Ben is the right play today.

I don't know why. Her claim is terrible. She got trapped onto Red's lynch day 1. I said if Sceptile is scum Lea likely is with him.

The only thing in Lea's benefit is that I think she would throw in the towel if scum (though I did berate her for it last time she did).

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Votals
[4] - Ben - (Lea), (Bolt), Bolt, Lea, Chang, Abacus
[2] - Bolt - Sultan, (Lea), (Chang), Corrik
[0] - Lea - (Bolt)
[0] - Corrik - (Lea), (Chang), (Lea), (Bolt)

Day ends in 29 hours, 30 minutes
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##Unvote
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Didn't realize it was that close. I'm fine with hammering on Ben but I want this settled comfortably in case I'm wrong.
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BTW, I don't think Changmas and Abacus are actually newbies. Something they said yesterday tipped me off to that.

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They are alts who didnt want to play under their actual name.

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Eh? I am most definitely new - and not an alt. But you can believe what you like!

What was it that we said?

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Leanansidhe posted...

They're probably both scum

I kind of wish I were scum. I feel like I would have done a lot better/learned quicker in the beginning. It seems more fun, as well.

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Corrik7 posted...

BTW, I don't think Changmas and Abacus are actually newbies. Something they said yesterday tipped me off to that.

I think you're just underestimating how much we could learn after playing this game for a full two weeks. You've accused me of this like 3 times already.

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Corrik7 posted...

They are alts who didnt want to play under their actual name.

Those are some *really* old alts then, with a ton of karma to back them up. Both are considerably older than my current main account. Chang *might* be an alt that sees a lot of mileage but with Abacus the math checks out for that to be a main
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Leanansidhe posted...

Also nice to play with Bolt again

I'm glad somebody thinks so. I know I rub some people the wrong way around here and have a mercurial attitude to boot. Unfortunately I'm probably going to bail again until I forget why I don't play here once more
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Wait a minute.

What if Lea is actually some kind of scum lyncher role? Like I had in the last game. In this case, Yasuho would actually be her lynch target. Maybe she gains an extra shot by killing him and she's holding onto it. Or GASP, a double vote?

That would also explain why scum exploded IGCD over everyone else

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fire_bolt posted...

Those are some *really* old alts then, with a ton of karma to back them up. Both are considerably older than my current main account. Chang *might* be an alt that sees a lot of mileage but with Abacus the math checks out for that to be a main

for what it's worth, this is an alt made after I closed my original account here, which I had when I was like 13 years old (see below, I even made my own wiki page lmao). I don't think I logged on to gamefaqs once between like...2015 and 2018 though, which is why the Karma isn't all that high.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/espio4000
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Espio4000

You can even find me on the guru contest prediction leaderboards in 2008 and 2010 under "espio" and in 2013 as "hannyabal" (i got 15th!).

I'm not lying about never having played forum mafia, though.


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changmas posted...

I think you're just underestimating how much we could learn after playing this game for a full two weeks. You've accused me of this like 3 times already.

Abacus I believe said he understood the framer role and was dictating his approach on the game with the understanding of how rare it was... that's an impossible statement to make as a newbie.

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Leanansidhe posted...

I think you are both fantastic additions and I hope you play more games! This one is a little bit of a lopsided curbstomp, but I like your energy. Also nice to play with Bolt again

I appreciate that! I know I pretty much f-d up in the beginning, but have actually picked up on a ton! Still god awful at reading people though. I actually like playing with Bolt a lot - though he can get heated.

Also, I figured they killed IGCD because he was the only confirmed townie - makes it harder for townies to trust each other.

About the accounts, I have an alt named "Xirsca" that's actually older than this account for a few months. But almost never post on it.

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Corrik7 posted...

Abacus I believe said he understood the framer role and was dictating his approach on the game with the understanding of how rare it was... that's an impossible statement to make as a newbie.

framer is a relatively common town of salem role. it doesn't take a genius to apply that logical leap to forum mafia and realize why it would be more rare.

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Corrik7 posted...

Abacus I believe said he understood the framer role and was dictating his approach on the game with the understanding of how rare it was... that's an impossible statement to make as a newbie.

That was because people had previously talked about how rare it was in this game.

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Corrik redirect Chang plz

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masterplum posted...

Corrik redirect Chang plz

no

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