Current Events > What would reduce incels

(+) Yeah! (+)

Schools should have a class just for young men that teaches them how to:
Groom
Build muscle
Talk to the opposite sex
Be manly
Determine if a girl is into you
How to kiss her, when to go in
What to do when she rejects you

I guarantee you, it will make incels extinct.

Thanks, this definitely worked in cwcville

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Thanks, this definitely worked in cwcville

Idk what that means

Therapy.

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abolition of cities

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TheMikh posted...

abolition of cities

Huh

We could just teach them to not be shitty human beings who blame not being able to get laid on everyone but themselves.

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Sex workers, AKA prostitutes.

That eliminates the not getting sex part. Every other solution you guys are suggesting isnt a guarantee of anything.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Therapy.

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So what would the girls class be like?

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Sex workers, AKA prostitutes.

That eliminates the not getting sex part. Every other solution you guys are suggesting isnt a guarantee of anything.

You realize when they have sex they're not just cured of having a terrible perspective right? That's just what they believe

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Be attractive

Don't be ugly

Follow those two rules and you'll have sex at least once

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Stay away from red pilled message boards lol

Lost_All_Senses posted...

You realize when they have sex they're not just cured of having a terrible perspective right? That's just what they believe

Sure, but some will because they will no longer be celibate, which influences their views. This thread is about reduction, isnt it? Plus, we have not tried this solution yet. We (i.e. taxpayers via government subsidies) already fund all kinds of individuals and groups claiming a wide range of needs.

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imagine if someone ran for president with a platform of guaranteed sex for every citizen >_>
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Sure, but some will because they will no longer be celibate, which influences their views. This thread is about reduction, isnt it? Plus, we have not tried this solution yet. We (i.e. taxpayers via government subsidies) already fund all kinds of individuals and groups claiming a wide range of needs.

Do you just mean to legalize prostitution or to write them a prescription for a prostitute?

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ScazarMeltex posted...

We could just teach them to not be shitty human beings who blame not being able to get laid on everyone but themselves.

Well, yeah, but probably not, like... Directly, right? I think you have to catch them earlier

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Nothing

This problem is only going to get worse

State issued girlfriends.

The chemical castration of all males.

Oh, wait, we're looking for good solutions? Sorry, those aren't really my specialty, but hey, that's Hollywood baby!

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darkphoenix181 posted...

Schools should have a class just for young men that teaches them how to:
Groom
Build muscle
Talk to the opposite sex
Be manly
Determine if a girl is into you
How to kiss her, when to go in
What to do when she rejects you

I guarantee you, it will make incels extinct.

Faux-alpha culture doesn't help the situation.

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Therapy, and some form of community that isn't other incels.

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ScazarMeltex posted...

We could just teach them to not be shitty human beings who blame not being able to get laid on everyone but themselves.

Other people choose whether or not to sleep with you lol.
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B-Factor posted...

Other people choose whether or not to sleep with you lol.

Yes, that choice is made based on the qualities of the potential mate.

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ScazarMeltex posted...

We could just teach them to not be shitty human beings who blame not being able to get laid on everyone but themselves.

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

Sure, but some will because they will no longer be celibate, which influences their views. This thread is about reduction, isnt it? Plus, we have not tried this solution yet. We (i.e. taxpayers via government subsidies) already fund all kinds of individuals and groups claiming a wide range of needs.

Dude... You're then emphasizing to incels that women are only there to be walking fleshlights.
This is only going to cause them to be more misogynistic

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Seriously though, there should be earlier classes on communication. Clearly, if incels are a big enough problem to warrant a fucking counter-terrorist measure, then enough people aren't figuring it out on their own and need help.

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Lock them up in the same room as a RadFem.

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Classes can only do so much.

The part of the conversation people dont want to have is societys accountability for these people. A lot of the times, people are incredibly harsh and unforgiving towards those who struggle socially. This ostracization and exclusion is going to naturally lead the recipients to become antagonistic to whatever they perceive to be the dominant social cultures.

Obviously, theres a point of no return where society stops being directly responsible and a much more powerful form of intervention is needed, and there are some people whose problems are so deep that theyd turn out bad regardless, but generally speaking, before it reaches that point, we create these monsters. And the ones we dont create, we push away and make vulnerable to being propagandized by these monsters.

Education can help some people with general life skills, but its not going to fix the larger culture problems that accommodate the creation of outsiders and undesirables.

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This is some incel logic tbh.

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just have voluntary euthanasia

thebatz posted...

Dude... You're then emphasizing to incels that women are only there to be walking fleshlights.
This is only going to cause them to be more misogynistic

What?!

There are women who hope to have sex with clients, male or female, because it literally is their job. There are men who put sex up on a pedestal and it causes them stress that leads to depression, suicidal and, yes, sometimes violent thoughts against others because they can not get sex on their own. Im saying remove that factor. Employ the prostitutes so they can get steady, safe pay, while also demystifying the whole sex aspect for incels. You can add in counseling and other classes for personal improvement, if you think thatll help.

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

thebatz posted...

Dude... You're then emphasizing to incels that women are only there to be walking fleshlights.
This is only going to cause them to be more misogynistic

What?!

There are women who hope to have sex with clients, male or female, because it literally is their job. There are men who put sex up on a pedestal and it causes them stress that leads to depression, suicidal and, yes, sometimes violent thoughts against others because they can not get sex on their own. Im saying remove that factor. Employ the prostitutes so they can get steady, safe pay, while also demystifying the whole sex aspect for incels. You can add in counseling and other classes for personal improvement, if you think thatll help.

If you legitimately think that's a good idea, I hope you never, ever have authority over anyone or anything.
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Incel's believe that paying for sex does not count. A woman needs to want to have sex with them.

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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

What?!

There are women who hope to have sex with clients, male or female, because it literally is their job. There are men who put sex up on a pedestal and it causes them stress that leads to depression, suicidal and, yes, sometimes violent thoughts against others because they can not get sex on their own. Im saying remove that factor. Employ the prostitutes so they can get steady, safe pay, while also demystifying the whole sex aspect for incels. You can add in counseling and other classes for personal improvement, if you think thatll help.

your solution is completely warped.
the thread title is how to reduce incel behavior as a means of helping them.
this is far from it and only adds to objectifying women like they already believe.

only an incel would think this is a good idea.


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A catastrophic event that would wipe out most of the population and set back the human race to the medieval ages where incels did not make it pass puberty because technology and social benefits are not there to support them.

Teaching them that the 10/10 perfect ideal woman is nonexistent, that they need to ditch the fantasy that a woman's job is to dote on them, and love them no matter what. You know, common sense stuff. Best place to start.

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Just legalizing hookers will fix most of them

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Prostitution is effectively legal and everywhere in Japan and incels are a much larger percent here than in the US. I am not sure it's a problem that needs fixing to be honest. The problem in the US is violence in general. Incels are just one of many groups it comes from.

Not everyone can or should be considered sexually attractive. It's not a realistic goal to have. Women no longer needing to enter into a relationship with someone they aren't attracted to for financial security isn't a bad thing. It's sad that watching women who are forced to do this from developing countries is a hit TV show now.

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Suchomimus posted...

Just legalizing hookers will fix most of them

Only it won't. Incels believe paying for sex does not count.

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A lot of you guys talk about incels but it seems so divorce from reality, like you are all inventing these cartoon strawmen incels and then argue about how they would behave in a fictional world.

It's as simple as this: With culture telling you to be very careful when respecting women's boundaries you have a lot of unassertive people who go a long long long time without relationships and physical/emotional intimacy. The main problem is the lack of emotional intimacy, but lack of human connection at all is part. These people basically have what amounts to "Chronic loneliness syndrome" and the side effects of this are: Depression, Bitterness, and increased isolation.

Yes guys in these demographics are people that society should have help/an answer for. And we largely don't. But that's kinda where this whole conversation ends, because mocking them, or conflating them with only their worst elements, or just talking over hypothetical about them doesn't really do anything. IMO

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itll happen on its own

newer generation of parents are going to be totally aware of what goes on on shit like 4chan and shitty subreddits, not to mention online gaming communities like on xbox live or psn or competitive PC games

i predict a lot of kids who will be born / raised now are going to have it much stricter when it comes to their parents monitoring and telling them whats okay and whats not okay to be going on / participating in

itll take 20 or so years but once it starts to happen itll fix itself relatively quickly
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real answer: reducing mental health stigma and getting people accessible and affordable therapy, and changing cultural/social norms that enable shaming of people based on how much sex they have (or don't have). not having physical touch is actually biologically problematic, and creating situations where you add emotional damage on top of that is what causes some of the problems we have now.

these would actually help fix the problem.

Legalize prostitution. Have the government hand out coupons to incels to get free fucks. The whores get a rebate from uncle sam.

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thebatz posted...

your solution is completely warped.
the thread title is how to reduce incel behavior as a means of helping them.
this is far from it and only adds to objectifying women like they already believe.

only an incel would think this is a good idea.

Fuck off with that nonsense. We already use taxes for a bajillion different reasons that most people can never agree on. At least this solution would actually help out everyone involved. On top of that, this would be voluntary for both sides. You honestly think sex workers would turn down the offer?

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So many people saying legalize prostitution and ignoring that Japan has more incels than America. What a massive misunderstanding (though I am in favor of legalized prostitution, but the idea it helps incels is laughable).

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ssjevot posted...

It's sad that watching women who are forced to do this from developing countries is a hit TV show now

Wat

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Balrog0 posted...

Wat

There is a popular show called 90 day finace. Many of the people are incel men and women from impoverished countries. The women are forced to put up with shit and pretend to be attracted to them to try to get a better life. Though it doesn't always work out. Recently there was a woman from the Philippines and everything I have seen of it is just awful. I feel so bad for her to be in such a situation she even had to resort to that.

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I mean wouldnt it become an issue that at some point they would feel like the only affection would come from having to pay for it?

the best bet is therapy. Usually it comes down to depression I would imagine.

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