Current Events > Texas church closes after priest dies, members get COVID-19

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-texas-death-church-priest-reopen

A Texas church canceled Mass services just days after reopening after a priest died and several members of his religious order tested positive for the coronavirus.
Holy Ghost Catholic Church in Houston reopened its doors on May 2, as the Lone Star State began loosening its stay-at-home orders.
But on May 14, the parish canceled all services after Father Donnell Kirchner died. Five members of the congregation tested positive for COVID-19, church officials said Monday.

Sigh

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As a non-Christian, Holy Ghost is such a funny name for a church. Anyway, uh, thats sad but unsurprising.

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I'm very angry

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My church is still closed and doing online services and online tithing and such

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Rest in peace, priest.

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CableZL posted...

A Texas church canceled Mass services just days after reopening after a priest died and several members of his religious order tested positive for the coronavirus.

jesus fucking christ

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What makes me sad is that I actively try to be a good Christian, and these situations always put me in that, "well what did you expect you idiots" frame of mind. Even if you want to open up, it is still wise for the time being to avoid crowds. Churches are crowded, god will understand that you want to be alive to praise his name instead dead.

Worship. From. Home.

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@Cocytus this is real close to us. My parents took me to that church 20+ years ago. The restaurant in front if it has amazing food. I buy there weekly.

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Oh yeah, I did hear about this briefly on the news.

CleanerIGotThis posted...

As a non-Christian, Holy Ghost is such a funny name for a church

Jesus you know nothing about Christianity do you?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Jesus you know nothing about Christianity do you?

Jesus knows more about Christianity than you ever will.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Jesus you know nothing about Christianity do you?

thats not a bad thing

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LeperMessiahXX posted...

What makes me sad is that I actively try to be a good Christian, and these situations always put me in that, "well what did you expect you idiots" frame of mind. Even if you want to open up, it is still wise for the time being to avoid crowds. Churches are crowded, god will understand that you want to be alive to praise his name instead dead.

Worship. From. Home.

It really shows which churches are more of a business than a place of worship.

You arent as guilted to tithe if you are at home.

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Who cares about getting COVID-19, to be honest. I want to get it just to lower the death rate even further and calm the hysteria.

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E32005 posted...

thats not a bad thing

Kinda is when 1-2 billion people believe it and many countries use it in how they define laws, schools and who we go to war with .
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abaddon41_80 posted...

Who cares about getting COVID-19, to be honest. I want to get it just to lower the death rate even further and calm the hysteria.

I'd be careful what you wish for. We have people here in the 20-39 age range with no pre-existing conditions who died from it.

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abaddon41_80 posted...

Who cares about getting COVID-19, to be honest. I want to get it just to lower the death rate even further and calm the hysteria.

The problem with this line of thinking is that you can be asymptomatic and still pass it on to people more at risk even if you do survive it. This isn't about you individually. It's about the community as a whole.

And yeah, there have been a lot of young people who have died from it as well. Not to mention we're now getting reports of a few kids dying from conditions that are possibly linked to COVID-19.

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Sadly most people still wont care and will continue to gather in groups.

21WIVES_CHILL posted...

Sadly most people still wont care and will continue to gather in groups.

This is the dumbest thing you can do right now. As more data and study results are coming out they're finding that surface contamination is very inefficient for spreading the virus and a low % of the cases come from this - the majority involve gathering around other people 1 meter or closer for an extended period of time.

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ToadallyAwesome posted...

It really shows which churches are more of a business than a place of worship.

You arent as guilted to tithe if you are at home.

Indeed. My church shut down before the state even asked them to, and even now it's only open to a few people and they must wear masks. I get why people shit on religious types, this virus has shown me that there are too many stupid church leaders and followers that deserve ridicule, but I hope they remember that not all are terrible.

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Mass is how long, an hour? Its going to be a disaster when restaurants and bars open.
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OgesMC posted...

Mass is how long, an hour? Its going to be a disaster when restaurants and bars open.

Black church service is known to commonly go on for 4 - 6 hours. That's one of the reasons I stopped wanting to go as a kid.

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CableZL posted...

Black church service is known to commonly go on for 4 - 6 hours. That's one of the reasons I stopped wanting to go as a kid.

I learned this the hard way the first time I went to church with my black wife.

I also stopped going, but mainly because everyone there gave us dirty looks. I probably would've stopped going for the length anyway though.

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A few religious people get together once, COVID outbreak ensues, deaths occur, story is pushed through media

Thousands of people gather in grocery stores by the day/week, outbreaks do not occur

its amazing how propaganda defeated by 10 seconds of logical thinking still gets readily accepted by the vast majority of people

VVALLBOUNCE posted...

A few religious people get together once, COVID outbreak ensues, deaths occur, story is pushed through media

Thousands of people gather in grocery stores by the day/week, outbreaks do not occur

its amazing how propaganda defeated by 10 seconds of logical thinking still gets readily accepted by the vast majority of people

Grocery stores are typically requiring people to wear masks and many of them are at least trying to implement social distancing by having people stand 6 feet apart in checkout lines.

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VVALLBOUNCE posted...

A few religious people get together once, COVID outbreak ensues, deaths occur, story is pushed through media

Thousands of people gather in grocery stores by the day/week, outbreaks do not occur

its amazing how propaganda defeated by 10 seconds of logical thinking still gets readily accepted by the vast majority of people

People in grocery stores typically aren't passing around a plate of money and shaking hands with everyone around them

And that was only like 3 seconds of logical thinking

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littlebro07 posted...

People in grocery stores typically aren't passing around a plate of money and shaking hands with everyone around them

And that was only like 3 seconds of logical thinking

That too, lol. Not hard to think this through, really.

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VVALLBOUNCE posted...

A few religious people get together once, COVID outbreak ensues, deaths occur, story is pushed through media

Thousands of people gather in grocery stores by the day/week, outbreaks do not occur

its amazing how propaganda defeated by 10 seconds of logical thinking still gets readily accepted by the vast majority of people

Whose alt
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CableZL posted...

Black church service is known to commonly go on for 4 - 6 hours. That's one of the reasons I stopped wanting to go as a kid.

why is there a black church? I mean I understand they had to have their own churches because Karen and Donald wouldnt allow them to go to regular churches.

but judging from the posts here they even changed the rite? Like, 6 hour services, etc

ya see if these kind of get together outbreaks occurred at wal marts en masse like they seem to magically occur with every small religious gathering or every lockdown-defying worker, youd have walmarts closing left and right every day and that means significant profit loss for a massive corporation as well as civil unrest..

so that cant happen

E32005 posted...

jesus fucking christ

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There have been more than enough examples of this that have happened in the past few months that I'm past the point of feeling sorry for them. They have literally seen this exact same thing happen to other churches and went "nah God will protect us". It sucks that this happened and i'm sorry for anyone that they may have given the virus to but that's about it.

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VVALLBOUNCE posted...

ya see if these kind of get together outbreaks occurred at wal marts en masse like they seem to magically occur with every small religious gathering or every lockdown-defying worker, youd have walmarts closing left and right every day and that means significant profit loss for a massive corporation as well as civil unrest..

so that cant happen

This has already been explained to you in another topic. Grocery stores are requiring people to wear masks as well as have people stand 6 feet apart in checkout lines. Also, people aren't typically handing things like collection plates to each other at grocery stores, nor are people at grocery stores in close proximity to each other for extended periods of time like they would be in church.

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VVALLBOUNCE posted...

A few religious people get together once, COVID outbreak ensues, deaths occur, story is pushed through media

Thousands of people gather in grocery stores by the day/week, outbreaks do not occur

its amazing how propaganda defeated by 10 seconds of logical thinking still gets readily accepted by the vast majority of people

Have you been to a church? Walking around a well ventilated store while following social distancing rules isn't the same as sitting in a single spot in an enclosed room continuously breathing the same air for an hour. Also some older churches aren't as well ventilated as newer ones. Catching this virus isn't just about exposure, but length of exposure.

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@Christian_RULES

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Got to improvise
https://youtu.be/GoVhoSRXDR0

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CapnMuffin posted...

Got to improvise
https://youtu.be/GoVhoSRXDR0

Seriously, I love this guy. He has a mask on and is shooting people with a squirt gun, in any other time he would be the crazy priest lol. People aren't going to stop going to religious events, priests like him who find inventive, if silly, ways to keep people safe is a welcome sight over packed churches.

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REMercsChamp posted...

I'd be careful what you wish for. We have people here in the 20-39 age range with no pre-existing conditions who died from it.

The death rate for people under 50 with no pre-existing conditions is essentially zero. Even including pre-existing conditions, the chance of dying if you are infected with COVID-19 for people under 50 is less than half of a percent.

Those numbers are using the total confirmed cases as the denominator, too. At this point, every expert in the world agrees the denominator is at least 10 times higher than the confirmed cases.


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abaddon41_80 posted...

The death rate for people under 50 with no pre-existing conditions is essentially zero. Even including pre-existing conditions, the chance of dying if you are infected with COVID-19 for people under 50 is less than half of a percent.

Those numbers are using the total confirmed cases as the denominator, too. At this point, every expert in the world agrees the denominator is at least 10 times higher than the confirmed cases.

Again, you're looking at it solely as if you don't have a risk of spreading it to other people who are more at risk.

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The_Bitcoin posted...

why is there a black church? I mean I understand they had to have their own churches because Karen and Donald wouldnt allow them to go to regular churches.

but judging from the posts here they even changed the rite? Like, 6 hour services, etc

Yes, you can typically go to any church/school/etc. now, but churches and schools that historically allowed black people to attend are the ones that are now considered "Black churches" and "Historically Black Colleges and Universities."

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The_Bitcoin posted...

why is there a black church? I mean I understand they had to have their own churches because Karen and Donald wouldnt allow them to go to regular churches.

but judging from the posts here they even changed the rite? Like, 6 hour services, etc

C'mon, historical context, you should have some from school. They've existed since the days of segregation, and church wasn't just for rites, but literally for helping and supporting your neighbor and community.

Shit like that exists in the midwest too, there are places where the church is also the community center, and has the only concert hall or full basketball court or whatever.

Fuckin' grape juice and cheese crackers while some weirdo plays electric guitar

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abaddon41_80 posted...

The death rate for people under 50 with no pre-existing conditions is essentially zero. Even including pre-existing conditions, the chance of dying if you are infected with COVID-19 for people under 50 is less than half of a percent.

Those numbers are using the total confirmed cases as the denominator, too. At this point, every expert in the world agrees the denominator is at least 10 times higher than the confirmed cases.

And death is only one of many outcomes. Did you know it's being discovered asymptomatic patients have had damage to their lungs from this? People without any symptoms have lung damage, now imagine catching it and having a hard time with it but still surviving. That's can produce long term health problems. You also could give it to someone high risk and they could die. Being high risk doesn't mean they are on their death bed. Being over 50 doesn't mean their life starts having less value. There are also tons of people who have underlying conditions that they are unaware of. My cousin has an atrial fibrillation and apparently he's had it for at least 10 years before being diagnosed, that is considered an underlying condition. It's not a big deal all things considered, but it is something that puts him at a greater risk. It's not as black and white as you make it sound.

I guess they're really putting the ghost in Holy Ghost

ayy lmao

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shockthemonkey posted...

Its sad how many preventable deaths there have been from people who think the virus cant kill them if they dont believe in it.

I saw some sidewalk chalk writing in front of a church that said "faith is bigger than fear". A nice maxim, but one that leads to this type of situation. It's not fear - it's prudence. Learn the difference.

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CableZL posted...

Again, you're looking at it solely as if you don't have a risk of spreading it to other people who are more at risk.

The total death rate; including elderly and those with pre-existing conditions; is very likely under 0.5%. If you take the averages of all of the antibody studies and estimates for how many people have been infected, the death rate is around 0.1%.

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Not really. From my original post, "Even including pre-existing conditions, the chance of dying if you are infected with COVID-19 for people under 50 is less than half of a percent."

Sewage posted...

And death is only one of many outcomes. Did you know it's being discovered asymptomatic patients have had damage to their lungs from this? People without any symptoms have lung damage, now imagine catching it and having a hard time with it but still surviving. That's can produce long term health problems. You also could give it to someone high risk and they could die. Being high risk doesn't mean they are on their death bed. Being over 50 doesn't mean their life starts having less value. There are also tons of people who have underlying conditions that they are unaware of. My cousin has an atrial fibrillation and apparently he's had it for at least 10 years before being diagnosed, that is considered an underlying condition. It's not a big deal all things considered, but it is something that puts him at a greater risk. It's not as black and white as you make it sound.

No one has any idea if COVID-19 can produce long-term health problems right now, because is has been around for less than a year.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Kinda is when 1-2 billion people believe it and many countries use it in how they define laws, schools and who we go to war with .

americas laws are not based on the bible

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Very stupid people

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