Poll of the Day > So 'simp' is definitely a word only used by incels, right?

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Ive only heard incels use it

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I hereby use the word simp

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yep. if youre not a total asshole to women they call you a simp. its a dumb buzzword incels use and will die out soon as will their bloodlines unless they can stop blaming everyone but themselves for their shortcomings

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I've seen women use it saying they're a simp for a hot guy

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PyroBlade1985 posted...

No.

it really is.

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The irony of this topic is probably only lost on Melo.

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FinDoms use it too

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Uh.... You just used it in your topic title.....

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Doesn't simp mean dumbass? Why would only incels use that word?

I've heard it used by normal people. But I think it's usually use more as a joke...
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No I've heard plenty of people use it and none of them were incels.

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CaptainStrong posted...

Doesn't simp mean dumbass? Why would only incels use that word?

I heard it was the new word for cuck or something...
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Zeus posted...

The irony of this topic is probably only lost on Melo.

it's totally lost on me. explain?

I_Always_Die posted...

yep. if youre not a total asshole to women they call you a simp. its a dumb buzzword incels use and will die out soon as will their bloodlines unless they can stop blaming everyone but themselves for their shortcomings

so dumb lmao

Lokarin posted...

FinDoms use it too

what's that?

LinkPizza posted...

I heard it was the new word for cuck or something...

more like a guy who treats women like people tbh

Jen0125 posted...

I've seen women use it saying they're a simp for a hot guy

lol

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Virgins have to fight back somehow

It's basically the new 'white knight'.

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I really want to know what @zeus meant with that post

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Pretty much, yes.

Just a new version of their same old "white knight", "cuck", "soyboy", etc. insult.

Damn trumpanzees need to get new material instead of rebranding the same old shit.
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I feel so out of touch with incel culture

I actually feel bad about it because I'd be a great role model for how to not fuck women while not being a total psychopath

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It's some weird social media shill word. I have only seen it used by e-shills.

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Simp is an "old is new" phrase. I thought it was kind of funny at first. Now, like everything the internet gets a hold of, it's been run into the ground.

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MrMelodramatic posted...

what's that?

Financial Dominants... a subset of FemDoms, here's a video about them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGqCGD4uqVE

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On a slightly related note, here's a video on the sort of people who use OnlyFans

https://youtu.be/djMojvschs0

If you're too lazy to watch through it, the main takeaway is that there are a lot of lonely, lonely dudes out there

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Incels were the last people to do it. I'm pretty sure it was made by Twitter women at first, that is where the term came from. A way of insulting fans of pretty girls.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

I really want to know what @zeus meant with that post

Because "incel" is also an insult whose usage is attributed to a fringe group (SJWs) and in both cases it's often simply used to describe individuals those groups dislike rather than strictly going by the definition. The only difference, ironically enough, is that "simp" has an applicable meaning (and is an improvement over "cuck") whereas "incel" is generally misapplied (and, on a more basic level, doesn't exist because all celibacy is voluntary)

Also you already know tagging me doesn't work because I have mentions turned off, as was previously discussed.

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Zeus posted...

Because "incel" is also an insult whose usage is attributed to a fringe group (SJWs)

oh cool, youre just making shit up



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OP...this is for you (got so much flammage for this)

The Hierarchy of buzzwords in relation to being "men" (subject to change)

4) Alpha
3) Chad
2) Normie
1) Beta
0) Incel
-1) Soiboi
-2) Cuck
-3) Simp

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4) Alphas are higher than Chads, otherwise it wouldn't be "Alpha" in it's meaning

Alpha's have the 3 B's working for them:
a) Brains - good intelligence, good manners, good confidence and a good soul (re: not be a douchebag about any it) = SMART AF 10/10.
b) Body - good shape, good health, and good strength, eat well, "my body's a temple" type = FIT AF 10/10.
c) Bank - good life prospects, makes at least 6 figures, owns house, zero debt, able supporter for a potential mate. = WEALTHY AF 10/10.

One MUST rank high on all 3 Bs in order to be an alpha. Getting a girls' attention is already effortless, since you'll already have her attention when you walk into the room.

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3) Chads can only carry ONE of these B aspects to 10/10, but cannot for the rest. They can be rich, but are ugly and a bit of a douche, like a middle-age, overweight lawyer. Or Sexy AF, but broke and dumb; like an unemployed construction work who can't find work, but at least he has abs. Smart, but homely and struggling; like a college kid working at Wal-Mart to pay tuition and rent; a work in progress, but his ambition in the long game will pay off.

As well failing at a "B" doesn't mean going from one extreme to the other, it's just that one "B" you're good at is your only redeeming quality. That's why when the Incels laugh at the Chads, it's because they only have (ie) "good looks going for them", and the girl will ignore the Incel and get with the Chad. Little do the girls know the Chad fails at the other two "B" aspects, and she'll be stuck in single motherhood because the Chad is a broke ass bitch with no mindful honor to care for their child.....

Being a Chad is a harder sell toward the ladies than it is for Alphas, because they have to push their one "B" quality front and center at all times. And due to the vapidness of modern girls anyways, that's all it takes.

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2) Normies are those who see themselves outside this surface level hierarchy game, as they don't care about how the game is played as they feel centered and at peace with their strengths and shortcomings. However, it's a razor-thin edge to stand on, as vanity always plays it's part within the psyche, when focusing on their own strengths often find themselves subject to ranking one of their three Bs. Often time showing confidence in one B lands them in Chad status anyways....but then again, you thought they weren't playing this game in the first place?

However girls do like men with confidence and self-esteem, and generally that places them in the "fuckable" catergory.

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1) Betas have varying degrees yet to be fleshed out. But mainly it's a struggle for these people to get 10/10 on any one of the 3 "Bs", if at all. Like Normies, but with less self-esteem working for them. However to their credit they still "punch within their weight-class" so to speak, so landing a girl within their lifetime is not impossible as long as they stick to the traditional and conventional means of getting with a girl.

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0) Incels rank with "zero" because despite their inability to get with a girl at all, they still believe in traditional methods for garnering a girl's attention. Unlike the lower rankings below, Incels won't debase themselves to get with a girl. Even if prostitution is the answer, they believe they are still entitled to an answer when asking a girl for the time. Except, beyond that, they have no definable qualities to retain a girl's attention no matter their own ranking. So forever, Incels are stuck in purgatory, constantly in a state of mental unraveling.

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As we get into negative rankings, the reoccuring theme is that these "men" sacrifice parts of themselves in desperate attempts to get with a girl.

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-1) Soiboi's pretend to be men, which is a start, but as opposed to being the best they could be, they start to compromise too much of themselves in order to get with women. They'll adopt ridiculous identity politics and other SJW lost causes in order to make themselves appealing for other sexes. Take the myth of the "male feminist" for example, those who are willing to sacrifice their male psyche in order to identify with women better...which amounts to "maybe she let me see her boob if I tell her I read Margret Atwood and march in pro-choice rallies?"....

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-2) Cucks... Like Soibois, we start seeing men compromise more than their gender politics. The fact that in order to keep the relationship alive, or exist at all is at the expense of allowing their female partner to fuck other men, most times right in front of you. Even though the word "cuck" comes from "cuckolding", the meaning has transcended to more than just the sexual acts, but the basic premise that you're willing to hold back and never do anything for yourself in a relationship where only the other partner could benefit. Regardless of how pathetic that relationship dynamic is, at least you can say they have one....unlike...

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-3) Simps.... whereas Soibois and Cucks are about sacrificing their souls to get into relationships with women, a Simp goes further and starts giving up on material possessions and/or money for the mere privilege of breathing the same air as a girl within her personal space. And the girl would not reciprocate because she knows she has him wrapped around her finger. Even in webcam sites, (either Twitch or Chaturbate) they blindly throw money at a girl, thinking she is his virtual girlfriend and they will defend e-thottery as if it's a way of life for both of them.


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i dont really know what it means. is it a man who is emotionally vulnerable and doesnt treat women poorly?

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I have literally never seen anyone try and draw a line between incel and SJW before now lmao

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Simp might be the first nerdy internet word that is actually apt.

Soiboi is overused tripe to describe any dude who isn't a muscle bound jock, which ironically enough, is probably 90% of the guys on the internet that use it.

I assume it's mostly used by fat fucks who think being an obese orc is more "manly" than being skinny with little muscle, which is pretty ironic given women typically prefer the later.

Cuck is short for cuckold, which is a guy that unintentionally raises another guy's child. I think porn did some culture stuff to it, to where enjoying seeing your girl get plowed by another dude makes you a cuck.

Still, men like this are almost non-existent, so this is a stupid and overused word and has practically lost all meaning.

'Chad' and 'Alpha' are extremely arbitrary and I see people call people Chad's that I would never consider Chad-like, same with Alpha.

My definition of a Chad is that extremely confident jock dude who is almost always muscular and good looking, is typically dumber than a box of rocks, who is naturally good with women. A guy who is clever that is good at talking to women doesn't even fall under my definition of Chad, because it's too try hard and not natural enough.

Basically, a Chad should embody "cave man game" or " big dick energy" to where he basically barely says anything and most just puts his hands all over girls and they just eat it up.

A Chad isn't even necessarily the archtypical guy who is "best" with women. A guy who is more try hard, with more money and intelligence, who plays the social game better will almost always get better results than a Chad, long term.

Simp however, is short for simpleton or fool and is used to insult men that worship and chase women that openly don't value them and treat them like garbage or openly and unapologetically use them.

'White Knighting' isn't Simping, white knighting is defending women, which depending on the context, is completely appropriate. Simping is you giving chicks money or insane amounts of attention when they have done little to nothing to earn it.

And guys like this, are absolutely real, and absolutely pathetic and deserve to be mocked. Guys who send girls on Twitch thousands of dollars for showing cleavage or quite literally some of the most pathetic men on the planet and the fuck up the sexual market place for everyone else.

That's the most extreme form of simping, but kissing some half naked chicks ass on her Instagram is the next worst thing. Mostly because it's pointless. It makes these girls further unobtainable and a pain in the ass for anyone who might be able to date her, and these girls don't take any of the man kissing her ass even remotely seriously. For her, it's just ego boosting validation.

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Zeus posted...

Because "incel" is also an insult whose usage is attributed to a fringe group (SJWs) and in both cases it's often simply used to describe individuals those groups dislike rather than strictly going by the definition. The only difference, ironically enough, is that "simp" has an applicable meaning (and is an improvement over "cuck") whereas "incel" is generally misapplied (and, on a more basic level, doesn't exist because all celibacy is voluntary)

Often times those that label with "Incel" are from those who deflect their own responsibility as well.

Case in point:

An Incel doesn't want to be an Incel, they want to date and build relationships like anyone else. The only problem is (as I've said above) they have no definable qualities to invest themselves. However, at times it's not from a lack of trying... Say the Incel goes out into the world and learn what he needs to get with a girl. The girl says she "likes a confident man, who like french poetry, and long walks on the beach and skydives on the weekend."

So the Incel goes out into the world, and learns about various beaches, french poetry, and skydiving. Comes back to the girl and she's already pregnant from a Chad that had none of those qualities at all. And the Incel gets put off for trying to figure why he was lied to.

...now multiply those instances by a hundred, and the Incel gets jaded to the point he earns his moniker. To the point he shoots up a school, or crashes a van into a Starbucks.

And all the girls go, "liek omg, what a psycho! He's an INCEL"... when the real truth is, it's the girls fault all along for sending mixed messages, leading him on, ...not only lying to the Incel, but to herself being sweet normal girl when in truth she's a sycophantic "thot" twisting up men's minds until they snap, while she goes of into the sunset until the hubris of single-motherhood chains her down.


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LinkPizza posted...

I heard it was the new word for cuck or something...

It isn't. Simp is the new term for white knight.
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Zeus posted...

Because "incel" is also an insult whose usage is attributed to a fringe group (SJWs)

no it isnt lmao

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MajesticFerret posted...

'White Knighting' isn't Simping, white knighting is defending women, which depending on the context, is completely appropriate. Simping is you giving chicks money or insane amounts of attention when they have done little to nothing to earn it.

White Knighting isn't a category like Simps or Cucks, it's just an action without proper context to any particular label.

Here's the difference:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sean-bean-stabbed-in-london-bar-fight/

Sean Bean....successfully actor, ruggedly handsome....He's an Alpha, and white-knighted to defend a girl from being abused, and he got stabbed for it...

..compared to...

....no nevermind, I'm not going to sully my youtube algorithm finding a video of a Simp white-knighting and defending some dime-a-dozen thot on Twitch....


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Joker_X_II posted...

White Knighting isn't a category like Simps or Cucks, it's just an action without proper context to any particular label.

Here's the difference:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sean-bean-stabbed-in-london-bar-fight/

Sean Bean....successfully actor, ruggedly handsome....He's an Alpha, and white-knighted to defend a girl from being abused, and he got stabbed for it...

..compared to...

....no nevermind, I'm not going to sully my youtube algorithm finding a video of a Simp white-knighting and defending some dime-a-dozen thot on Twitch....

See, this is why a lot of internet slang words are dumb, because people make up arbitrary definitions.

White Knighting means just that...being a white knight.

What is a white knight? In fairy tale tropes, a white knight is the good knight that saves the damsel in distress from the evil Black Knight.

As a white knight, you saving a woman like she is a damsel in distress from a bad man is white Knighting.

White Knight is the perfect example of a word that doesn't inherently have bad meaning that salty little internet nerds use to try to demean men.

Universally white Knighting women can certainly be bad, but white Knighting women when they actually need it and it's called for is not bad at all.

Saving a woman from a bar fight is white Knighting. Defending a woman in a Instagram comment section when some guy says something misogynistic is also white Knighting. One feat of white Knighting was more called for than the other, this why white knight has been used as an insult.

There is never a context where simping is good. Simping by it's very nature is bad.

Simping, at its core, are essentially men who fall in love with new wave sex workers. E-thoting is the new wave of sex work. Women have figured out it's more profitable to highly sexualize themselves and as long as the platform is large enough, there's enough pathetic men out there (aka the simps) to give them money for essential nothing. Stripping and actual prostitution are for 2nd and 3rd world women who don't have that marketing priviledge to a large enough volume of pathetic 1st world country men.

If anything, the analogy still isn't even quite apt, because a guy at least stands a maybe 1% chance of getting a hooker to fall for him if his sex is that good or he's that hot or charismatic and it's a direct exchange of value.

The simp stands absolutely 0% chance and is laying often large sums of money for something that is of lesser value than what every man regardless of outcome has for free (porn).

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emagdnE posted...

Damn trumpanzees need to get new material instead of rebranding the same old shit.

Speaking of lost irony

Simp is not an incel word, it's black slang that's been in use for over 25+ years, other folks have just started using it recently. It's just means a queef huffing, hovering type dude that puts women on a pedestal.


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CaptainStrong posted...

Doesn't simp mean dumbass? Why would only incels use that word?

While it's not official, technically "simping" means when a man acts subservient to a women who they like but the women in question offers nothing in return.

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that sounds like any ordinary relationship with a basic thot.

> complains about the use of the word simp

> calls everyone who does it an incel which is equally as cringy

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captainjeff87 posted...

> complains about the use of the word simp

> calls everyone who does it an incel which is equally as cringy

who tf tries to greentext on gamefaqs in 2020?

incels are a real thing though. like eliot rodgers types. they arent necessarily all murderous psychopaths like he was but they definitely share a dangerous mentality that women owe them sexual favors despite the fact that they have awful social skills.

like find an incel subreddit and read that shit for 15 minutes. theyre real and theyre nuts.

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A simp refers to the type of person who gives money to e-girls or just generally fawns all over them as godesses. It is often used jokingly to refer to anyone being nice to a girl.

using words like incel as a general insult is honestly just as bad .

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No, "normie" is.

Depends on how it's used. There are definitely people who go to pathetic lengths to try and get the attention of someone clearly not interested.

The term definitely gets misused a lot though. Incels also tend to direct a lot of the anger towards the women in the situation, which is stupid.

Is Sir Mix-A-Lot an incel? I have it on good authority that a lot of simps won't like Baby Got Back.

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Fuckers complain about people calling other simps, but still call everyone an incel lmao. Like that wasn't a lame insult months ago

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Can't we just stop call each other things and just try to go back to being nice to eachother instead?

Nothing is going to be solved by continuing calling eachother names.
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Nah I don't think so, seen it thrown around a lot.

The problem is, like with a lot of words, it's started being thrown around way too much and often for no actually reason.

I've seen it thrown out there if someone is just not being an asshole/being nice to someone. I've seen it used a lot in cases where someone is being an asshole and another person counters it with actual points. Either instead of coming up with counter arguments, they just reply with simp. Or a bunch of randos who haven't made any points in the whole argument/discussion just start piling in with simp.

I know language evolves, but sometimes words get to a point that I just roll my eyes at them tbh because they devolve into generic insults people use when they don't have anything else to say or as lazy leverage.