Poll of the Day > Visual representation of wealth inequality

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https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/?fbclid=IwAR3RTNt6OVmcrzYKjqOPzaYB0bpQPH_8hUtmeGjJ4rTWj6uhLCd1hOzC6pE

un fucking real

we live in a dystopia

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Is this the thing where you scroll forever?

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Does this mean I'm entitled to Jeff Bezos's money?

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Is this the thing where you scroll forever?

Yes.

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Too long didn't scroll.
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Revelation34 posted...

Too long didn't scroll.

its stupidly long, I do not blame you.

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Im gonna print this out at the library

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Mead posted...

Im gonna print this out at the library

it still will be shorter than a cvs receipt

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I was thinking the other day, even though I can make $2 million bells per week in Animal Crossing, that's nothing compared to what Jeff Bezos makes in an hour.

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It's not much of a dystopia when you can fritter your money away on stupid shit to entertain yourself. It's just a neat representation of how mishandled taxation is.
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Maybe he just works that hard

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Maybe he just works that hard

yeah, he probably does work 150 billion times harder than me

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so what?
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Amuseum posted...

so what?

lol

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

un fucking real

Unreal is right, considering that the whole thing involves countless fundamental misunderstandings. The most basic misunderstanding is that most of Jeff Bezo's "wealth" is in Amazon stock, which could tank overnight if stock prices tumbled and therefore lacks the same meaning as cold hard cash. It's one of many reasons why the obsession over others' wealth is all but meaningless unless it involves tangible assets as opposed to something like company stock.

The question then becomes should a founder and CEO of a company own a majority stake in the company he founded and runs today? Or is he magically beholden to turn over his stake in the company -- thus causing him to lose control over said company -- to the general public who did nothing to build that company other than buy products from it?

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ohhhh Zeus

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zeus didnt know how net worth works until today

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TheWitchMorgana posted...

zeus didnt know how net worth works until today

Ive noticed a lot conservatives dont really understand economics as well as they think they do

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well sure, the only way they can justify to themselves that one guy should have a hundred billion dollars is by pretending he actually doesnt

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TheWitchMorgana posted...

well sure, the only way they can justify to themselves that one guy should have a hundred billion dollars is by pretending he actually doesnt

hey, maybe if you vote like a billionaire youll magically end up as one some day!

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why don't you start your own 2nd hand bookstore and turn it into a quarter billion corporation like Bezos? but no you can only complain.
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Amuseum posted...

why don't you start your own 2nd hand bookstore and turn it into a quarter billion corporation like Bezos? but no you can only complain.

lol

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Amuseum posted...

why don't you start your own 2nd hand bookstore and turn it into a quarter billion corporation like Bezos? but no you can only complain.

sure thing, let me know when you get that finished and share your pointers with us

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ah yes the "i'll just sit here complain while others do the work for me. wah why can't i get rich just sitting and complaining to a dead forum?"
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Amuseum posted...

ah yes the "i'll just sit here complain while others do the work for me. wah why can't i get rich just sitting and complaining to a dead forum?"

go lick some boots somewhere else. you clearly dont understand what is going on in here lol

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Amuseum posted...

ah yes the "i'll just sit here complain while others do the work for me. wah why can't i get rich just sitting and complaining to a dead forum?"

youre the one posting on a dead forum instead of raking in billions, what are you waiting for? get on it

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

yeah, he probably does work 150 billion times harder than me

Articles like this really put the laziness of your average American into perspective

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that's interesting but doesn't seem to be properly to scale. he's using a scale of 1 pixel = $500,000, so you should be able to get the number of pixels by multiplying the number of millions by 2. but then he makes a $50M shape 223 pixels wide which is over double the size it should be.

also using squares makes the relative size of the shapes way off. volume is irrelevant only width matters.

still, it does give a good indication of the difference between tens of millions and hundreds of billions. (and he did get the right width for Bezos at 278k pixels.)

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the difference between a million and a billion is truly astounding

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And this is how we know that corporations are running the country.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

the difference between a million and a billion is truly astounding

It's about a thousand.
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k nm, analyzing it more, it does make sense, and volume is relevant. he's using a scale of 1x1 pixel = $1000. maximum height shapes are 500px tall, which makes a full height column of pixels $500,000, but not everything is full height.

he got the million box slightly too big, 33.62x33.62 instead of 31.62x31.62 (sqrt of 1000 for 1000 $1000 pixels)

the billion box is exactly right at 2000x500 = 1M pixels x $1000 = $1B

bezos is exactly right at 278000x500x$1000 = $139B

etc.

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Sahuagin posted...

bezos is exactly right at 278000x500x$1000 = $139B

scary

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We need more trickle down economics, give these super rich people more money so we get a part of it!

What we need to do is go under their money and start jumping up in the air and hitting it with our heads so we gets coins

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I love it.

Amuseum posted...

so what?

Because some people die from lack of basic healthcare and a lot go bankrupt from it, we wage wars and it's silly to assume morality is the reason.

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Zeus posted...

to the general public who did nothing to build that company other than buy products from it?

So you don't think buying products from a company contributes to that company build up? How would you say a company is built up then?

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The problem with the super rich is their money is sequestered... they aren't buying a trillion dollars worth of consumer items which fuel the economy.

If Jeff Bezos would order 10 billion Audis, that would legitimately fix things

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Lokarin posted...

The problem with the super rich is their money is sequestered... they aren't buying a trillion dollars worth of consumer items which fuel the economy.

If Jeff Bezos would order 10 billion Audis, that would legitimately fix things

I think the operation of Amazon is more productive for society than a fleet of cars.

If the money wasn't sequestered in Amazon, it wouldn't be operating as well as it does.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

I think the operation of Amazon is more productive for society than a fleet of cars.

If the money wasn't sequestered in Amazon, it wouldn't be operating as well as it does.

By 10 billion Audis I didn't mean a fleet of cars... I was talking about useless consumer goods and the industry behind their construction and coulda been pretty much anything, like 100billion Big Macs or something

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Lokarin posted...

By 10 billion Audis I didn't mean a fleet of cars... I was talking about useless consumer goods and the industry behind their construction and coulda been pretty much anything, like 100billion Big Macs or something

Yeah, and the purchasing of big macs isn't any more useful than Amazon buying more fleet trucks or expanding their budget brand.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Yeah, and the purchasing of big macs isn't any more useful than Amazon buying more fleet trucks or expanding their budget brand.

you're really not getting what I'm saying.., maybe.

I'm saying if he bought things it would help the economy.

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Is there one that shows this on a worldwide scale?

Yes, Bezos is incredibly rich compared to any average American, but the average American (if you make over $30k/yr) is still vastly more wealthy than 99% of the world.

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DocDelicious posted...

more wealthy than 99% of the world.

I wonder if the stats only count people over the age of 18, since children typically have near 0 net worth even in wealthy nations.

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Hard work, boring safe decisions, and disregard for enjoying life...very little luck other than being born not in America and not in poverty, will get you into the 1% - 0.1%.

How much wealth the actual richest people have is insane. People shouldnt be that powerful and set up other to be in that much power for extended periods of history. But also, you dont want to cap the innovation they help create. Its a difficult problem...theres no real reward for their innovations other than power and respect.

blu posted...

Hard work, boring safe decisions, and disregard for enjoying life...very little luck other than being born not in America and not in poverty, will get you into the 1% - 0.1%.

How much wealth the actual richest people have is insane. People shouldnt be that powerful and set up other to be in that much power for extended periods of history. But also, you dont want to cap the innovation they help create. Its a difficult problem...theres no real reward for their innovations other than power and respect.

Arguably at a certain point the power and respect they earn holds far more worth than the additional wealth that doesn't serve any kind of purpose.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

its stupidly long, I do not blame you.

I was interested in everything they had to say. If only they had an alternate version, set up like a proper article, without all that side scrolling forever to get to the next couple of sentences. I got bored and backed out once they got to the stuff about trillions. I knew then that it was going to go on for a very long time.

I understand the purpose of the scrolling. Helps to really get across the idea of that much wealth for the people who have a hard time with the concept. But at some point there needs to be a "Ok... I fucking get it. Just show me the rest of what you have to say" link to a proper article.


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The issue isn't so much socialism or capitalism; it's the fact that our resources, our collective output, are being siphoned (stolen). Everything in our society is a data structure of inputs and outputs, and the way it's being run is horrific. [Cult of materialism]

Blaming the opposition from each side, from behind the curtain, has been an extremely effective method of brainwash and maintaining control for hundreds/thousands of years.

This goes back to ancient history. We pretty much live on a slave planet. If people were aware (awake) of what they've been doing to us and how much of our potential is deliberately held back, we would unite like never before.

DBS will probably call me a QAnon nut now, because that's what he does even though all I did was mention it in one post.

It's easier to point fingers at people instead of confronting what's hidden from us. But I believe humanity is good, when not deceived by the illusion that everything needs to be a fight for survival.

Blightzkrieg posted...

Arguably at a certain point the power and respect they earn holds far more worth than the additional wealth that doesn't serve any kind of purpose.

Pretty much. There's absolutely no tangible increase in quality of life going between having $20 billion and $21 billion. When you get up to that scale of wealth, you're making more money purely for the sake of making more money, not because additional money serves them any sort of purpose.

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