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Doe 05/06/20 6:26:46 PM #1: |
A growing cottage industry of what some managers call tattleware now caters to company leaders wanting some way to peer over workers shoulders and confirm their productivity. Several time-tracking and employee-monitoring companies, including ActivTrak, Hubstaff, Time Doctor and Teramind, told The Washington Post they have seen their customer base and revenue soar since the pandemic pushed many companies remote. They are also developing a facial-recognition feature that could display a workers real-world emotion on their virtual avatars face; a beta version of the feature currently works only if the person smiles. In a Pragli office, workers virtual avatars are lined up in a grid and viewable at all times. But another start-up, Sneek, takes that idea even further, uploading pictures of workers faces taken through their webcam as often as every minute for their colleagues to easily see. There are some signs that all of this tech-enabled social monitoring is hitting a wall. The video-chat service Zoom recently removed an attention tracking setting, which alerted a call host when a participant was focused elsewhere, following public outcry about how invasive and creepy the feature seemed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/30/work-from-home-surveillance/ Jesus. Christ. I no longer have any interest in joining the work force. Put my first year of business undergrad in the shredder. Sorry for all that shit I talked NEETs --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_SilverX 05/06/20 6:29:03 PM #2: |
They can keep that essential shit.
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Questionmarktarius 05/06/20 6:31:35 PM #3: |
Yeah... "corrupted driver" would happen pretty quickly.
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Ultima Dragon 05/06/20 6:33:10 PM #5: |
Bet that won't go away once people return to the office.
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Balrog0 05/06/20 6:33:21 PM #6: |
What can I do to stop this
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Jiek_Fafn 05/06/20 6:34:20 PM #7: |
An always on spy camera in my own home? Fuck that.
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Darmik 05/06/20 6:34:22 PM #8: |
All of these apps and features sound awful. Damn.
If people get the work done why bother with this shit. If anything it sounds like the managers aren't busy if they notice an employee leave their chair for a moment. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 05/06/20 6:36:28 PM #9: |
Darmik posted...
All of these apps and features sound awful. Damn.Yeah this is insanely invasive and probably lowers morale enough to be counterproductive to what theyre ostensibly trying to fix there are much better ways to determine if people are getting their work done --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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REMercsChamp 05/06/20 6:36:55 PM #10: |
As we move to the new normal and everything becomes virtual we will absolutely need these kinds of apps. Start getting used to it guys.
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Axiom 05/06/20 6:49:40 PM #11: |
Any company that uses this deserves to go under
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Pepys Monster 05/06/20 6:50:16 PM #12: |
Axiom posted...
Any company that uses this deserves to go underDon't forget companies that buy toilet seats specifically designed to be uncomfortable to increase productivity. --- GOML ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zanzenburger 05/06/20 6:53:50 PM #13: |
This system is ripe for abuse and sexual harassment issues. At an old university I worked for, a campus security guy got fired for watching college girls through the security cameras in the dorm's public lounges, and performing "inappropriate acts" in his office (as was stated in his termination memo).
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E32005 05/06/20 6:54:08 PM #14: |
Axiom posted...
Any company that uses this deserves to go underthis Pepys Monster posted... Don't forget companies that buy toilet seats specifically designed to be uncomfortable to increase productivity.Satan, Inc. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 05/06/20 6:56:45 PM #15: |
>turn off your webcam, break if necessary
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ThunderTrain 05/06/20 6:58:02 PM #16: |
Companies are pissed people can do the same amount of work in 3 hours rather than 8 hours
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Blue_Dream87 05/06/20 7:00:43 PM #17: |
Balrog0 posted...
What can I do to stop this Unionize --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 05/06/20 7:01:53 PM #18: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
>turn off your webcam, break if necessary>lose job --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Squall28 05/06/20 7:02:54 PM #19: |
I don't know why some managers get so bent out of shape about keeping "utilized" all the time. If you finish all your work, there should be no problems instead, they assign you the most pointless shit. You know what, I think I will spend 8 hours to do this 1 hour job. Thanks.
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Antifar 05/06/20 7:08:31 PM #20: |
I don't like this one bit.
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Rika_Furude 05/06/20 7:15:38 PM #21: |
Bad managers. Why hire someone you have no trust in? If you think someone isnt working then their productivity and KPIs will demonstrate that without hovering over their shoulder
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lilORANG 05/06/20 7:16:16 PM #22: |
My manager at subway used to monitor us from home using her webcam. Sucked.
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Smashingpmkns 05/06/20 7:17:42 PM #23: |
To think around this time last year we were seeing articles about Japan proving that micromanaging is detrimental to productivity and shit lmao
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NinjaWarrior455 05/06/20 7:21:55 PM #24: |
Fuck companies and managers that do this.
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masticatingman 05/06/20 7:23:57 PM #25: |
Squall28 posted...
I don't know why some managers get so bent out of shape about keeping "utilized" all the time. If you finish all your work, there should be no problems instead, they assign you the most pointless shit. You know what, I think I will spend 8 hours to do this 1 hour job. Thanks.For purely salaried workers this is true but hourly workers do need to actually make use of their billable hours. --- Fervent appearing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 05/06/20 7:25:43 PM #26: |
This is why you don't compromise with capitalists. They will take everything from you if its profitable, or even just feasible. You should instead take as much as you can from them.
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Hexenherz 05/06/20 7:28:50 PM #27: |
They can't legally install this shit on your personal computer if you're remote connecting through a VPN, can they? :\
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Rika_Furude 05/06/20 7:30:29 PM #28: |
Hexenherz posted...
They can't legally install this shit on your personal computer if you're remote connecting through a VPN, can they? :\If youre using your own device you probably signed an agreement saying they can install certain apps on your computer as required by the business. Whether they have the capability to do so without your knowledge is a different matter but its definitely possible If youre using a work device they can install whatever they want because its theirs --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 05/06/20 7:35:58 PM #29: |
This is some dystopian bullshit
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Rika_Furude 05/06/20 7:37:17 PM #30: |
Blue_Inigo posted...
This is some dystopian bullshitI always warned this was going to happen but nobody believed me --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkBuster22904 05/06/20 7:39:15 PM #31: |
Doe posted...
They are also developing a facial-recognition feature that could display a workers real-world emotion on their virtual avatars face; a beta version of the feature currently works only if the person smiles.No squidward, you wouldnt want to have a talk with... human resources, now would you? --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joenage 05/06/20 7:40:33 PM #32: |
Ive noticed an increased amount of similar stuff happening in my company since the lockdown. We have a meeting at 8:45 (our normal start time is 9) under the pretence that no one has any problems with their work but more than likely its to make sure everyone actually has work to do. Then another one at 5 where everyone has to confirm what work they actually did
And in the last week we found out a few people have been accused of high traffic usage on our work VPN (with the implication they are streaming video all day). Its getting pretty 1984 tbh --- Joenage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 05/06/20 7:41:58 PM #33: |
Cool I finally get a work laptop.
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Gamerguymass 05/06/20 7:43:56 PM #34: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
>turn off your webcam, break if necessary Turning it off does nothing as they could most likely just turn it back on. The solution is cover it by tapping a piece of paper over the cam. Then since they will probably be listening in through the microphone just have music blaring next to the computer if you ever leave the room. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Omega Hunter 05/06/20 7:44:04 PM #35: |
Jesus Christ just put a post-it or tape over your web camera when not in use. Problem solved.
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berlyman101 05/06/20 7:44:53 PM #36: |
if they aren't doing this already they will when it's easier or cheaper. they'll dress it up as much as they can like the marketers did Werth social media.
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AzureAnihilator 05/06/20 7:47:23 PM #37: |
What a bunch of hot garbage. It is the trademark of a crap boss to fuss over whether an employee is sitting at a desk for 8 hours a day rather than focus on results.
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Ultima Dragon 05/06/20 8:42:02 PM #38: |
Omega Hunter posted...
Jesus Christ just put a post-it or tape over your web camera when not in use. Problem solved. Why do you think this would be an acceptable solution? It's like if you have to swipe in and out at work. Swipe in when you get there, swipe out and back in from break, swipe out when you leave. They have to make sure you're not coming in late, leaving early, or taking too much time for your breaks. That's a rule. At no point do you get to say "I'm not going to swipe in, forcing me to comply with this is unacceptable." They'll tell you find a new place to work, which you might be able to do.. for now. If (who am I kidding, when) this becomes standard and is enforced in a lot of places, then what? Just don't work? --- "We know things can move faster than the speed of light because liberal tears are on the ground before something offensive even happens" - Coffeebeanz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 05/06/20 9:47:07 PM #39: |
Ultima Dragon posted...
At no point do you get to say "I'm not going to swipe in, forcing me to comply with this is unacceptable." They'll tell you find a new place to work, which you might be able to do.. for now. IIf you aren't actively looking for employment elsewhere as soon as this policy is announced, you should start fairly soon. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 05/06/20 9:50:10 PM #40: |
I'm pretty sure most research has shown that micromanagement actually decreases productivity.
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Darmik 05/06/20 9:54:26 PM #41: |
The best way to avoid it is to probably close the laptop and connect it to a monitor. Doesn't help screen monitoring r bosses who demand the camera on though.
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Questionmarktarius 05/07/20 9:54:49 AM #42: |
Seems like a decent reason to take the "no pants" WFH joke very seriously.
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ScazarMeltex 05/07/20 9:57:39 AM #43: |
This will only continue if the workers tolerate it. Unionizing or striking in the face of this will end it.
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voldothegr8 05/07/20 10:01:27 AM #44: |
And this folks is why unions are a must. The pros far outweigh the cons.
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gloBal enemy 05/07/20 10:01:55 AM #45: |
Wow thats crazy. Although we do get called out now in team meetings for not turning video on.
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Disengaged 05/07/20 10:02:59 AM #46: |
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Peeonidas 05/07/20 10:03:54 AM #47: |
TheGoldenEel posted...
there are much better ways to determine if people are getting their work doneIt's not to ensure that work gets done it's to convey to workers how hard the bosses own them --- This is Farta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 05/07/20 10:04:06 AM #48: |
Thankfully all I have to do is clock-in remotely, sit in on two conference calls a week, and fill in a log sheet and Im done. 98% of my work week is spent kicking back and enjoying life.
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Solar_Crimson 05/07/20 11:17:28 AM #49: |
Disengaged posted...
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DevsBro 05/07/20 11:26:23 AM #50: |
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