Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1355

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if youd told me literally any year before FFXV came out that someday the most recent DQ would be stronger than the most recent FF, I would have called you crazy and also questioned why you wasted time telling me that
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Would reallllllllllly love to be able to see my 2nd chance bracket

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Yeah well BotW would get doubled by CT and OoT

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

the most recent DQ would be stronger than the most recent FF,

DQVIII would destroy FFXI

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i'm sure DQXI is stronger than DQVIII. and there's probably SFF involved in that CT match too

Team Rocket Elite posted...

CT straight up got 80% on DQ8:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6115-best-game-ever-day-17-round-2-chrono-trigger-vs-dragon-quest

SFF helped

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Japan fails DQ yet again.

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RE2 is making another move towards that 200 vote BARRIER.

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hey, RE2 actually won the hour by 41 votes.

this might be a match.

Assuming XI=VIII and a constant CT/FFX, what would a 69-31 for BotW mean against FFX? FFX is still a strong game outside of the big 5 (OoT/RBY/CT/FF7/ALttP)

Is there some sort of RE2 rally that's gained traction?

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The zombies are waking up.

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There's a rally on /r/residentevil but it has only +2 upvotes and isn't on the top 50 posts on the sub right now.

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FFX is expected to beat DQ8 with 73.8% (based on 2015 x-stats), so that would predict FFX beats BotW with 57.74% if 8 and 11 are equal.

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Let's go Shepardd!!!

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RE2 lands on the 200 vote barrier!

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I got 2 votes locked and loaded in case Mass Effect needs it.

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ALAKA posted...

I got 2 votes locked and loaded in case Mass Effect needs it.

I will go ask my mom for a ME2 vote if needed

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does ME2 have the night vote/Europe?

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Oh I didn't realize contest was back already. So whats the thoughts on Breath of the Wild? Underperformance or Dragon Quest just stronger then expected?

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LeonhartFour posted...

5 minute X-Stats:

Division 1

Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age 31.47%
Tales of Berseria 14.57%

Wtf happened to Tales? I thought Berseria was one of the better received Tales games?

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I think the best explanation is that Hollow Knight has been gutter trash this whole time right along with FFXV

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Do people still expect Hollow Knight to be a top indie game contender? Because if so, it looks like Bastion might not be so far off from the top (which I'd love to see).

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ME2 with the BIG update

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HaRRicH posted...

Do people still expect Hollow Knight to be a top indie game contender? Because if so, it looks like Bastion might not be so far off from the top (which I'd love to see).

Mind you, it still only just beat Walking Dead, which was Bottom 10 of the 2015 games contest during much better days for that series.

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LamarJackson posted...

Oh I didn't realize contest was back already. So whats the thoughts on Breath of the Wild? Underperformance or Dragon Quest just stronger then expected?

In my honest opinion, Dragon Quest XI has more to offer than Breath of the Wild did, when BoW first came out you only gotten 1/3 of the game and had to pay the other 2/3's of the game. As for Dragon Quest Xi, you get the full game, and a compelling story line.

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Petite-Dryad posted...

In my honest opinion, Dragon Quest XI has more to offer than Breath of the Wild did, when BoW first came out you only gotten 1/3 of the game and had to pay the other 2/3's of the game. As for Dragon Quest Xi, you get the full game, and a compelling story line.

I haven't played botw. what does this mean?

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BotW had two DLCs

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it means absolutely nothing. botw is about as complete of a game as you'll get without the dlc.

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Perhaps they mixed up BotW with the FF7 remake.

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Favorite "5" game poll today:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8081-

This could be interesting to see where Skyrim stands in relation to the previous 2 times we had this poll.
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I'm gonna need Mega Man 5 in future 5-polls so I have something to vote for.

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As someone who hasn't been initially following things too much but decided to dig into the numbers a little bit and listen to the Show for my second chance bracket I can't make sense of this DQ11 number. Dragon Quest has just historically not done that well and if DQ11 was really the series breakout moment that's kind of bizarre to me because as a game it basically does nothing differently than the other ten games besides higher production values. Meanwhile 2018 Character Battle showed the Zelda franchise being at an all-time high. Maybe it's just BotW backlash?

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vote ff5

I think I'm watching DMC5 the most. the biggest struggle I have with Odyssey is thinking about how DMC5 did reasonably well on it. if it can actually hang with some pretty good games, then that's something.

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_SJimW_ posted...

As someone who hasn't been initially following things too much but decided to dig into the numbers a little bit and listen to the Show for my second chance bracket I can't make sense of this DQ11 number. Dragon Quest has just historically not done that well and if DQ11 was really the series breakout moment that's kind of bizarre to me because as a game it basically does nothing differently than the other ten games besides higher production values. Meanwhile 2018 Character Battle showed the Zelda franchise being at an all-time high. Maybe it's just BotW backlash?

Thete havent been too many great JRPGs this gen so it was easy for DQ to fill that niche and become really popular

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Does Skyrim have a bad board vote in PotDs as well?
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Wildspark posted...

Thete havent been too many great JRPGs this gen so it was easy for DQ to fill that niche and become really popular

Anecdotally, I think this is a part of its popularity. I have loved JRPGs for a long time but hadn't jumped into DQ (beyond emulation of really early games). However, DQXI was so well reviewed I checked it out, and it quickly became one of my games of the generation.

Perhaps I'm the only one who experienced this - again, anecdotes count for nothing - but DQXI was a great game at the right time.

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I agree that DQ11 is a beneficiary of circumstance. Xenoblade was the same.

I still don't think it beats 8, but this is a strong performance against what is theoretically a killer game.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Does Skyrim have a bad board vote in PotDs as well?

Looking at the previous versions of this poll, it doesn't seem like that's the case. However, FFVII has been documented to have a bad board vote in PotDs, which supports the fact that its bad early vote isn't caused by anti-votes but from early voters being less likely to have played the game.
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I'm curious can anyone tell how well DQ11 would do against Persona 5 for comparison?

transience posted...

I agree that DQ11 is a beneficiary of circumstance. Xenoblade was the same.

I still don't think it beats 8, but this is a strong performance against what is theoretically a killer game.

I'd be shocked if DQXI doesn't beat DQVIII based on today's performance. 70% on DQVIII would be a terrible result for BotW, when Chrono Cross of all games can do 62% on it.

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DQ11 losing to DQ8 would be massively disappointing for 11. 8 is not at all a strong game.

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I'm not super familiar on the DQ hierarchy. Would it be unusual for DQ11 to be stronger than DQ8?
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4126-northwest-division-round-1-chrono-cross-vs-dragon-quest-viii
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6052-best-game-ever-day-1-dragon-quest-viii-vs-persona-3
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6115-best-game-ever-day-17-round-2-chrono-trigger-vs-dragon-quest

DQ8's claims to fame are failing to break 40% against one of the most divisive games Square has ever released, getting 55% on a game about as strong as Civilization 4, and getting dumpstered by Chrono Cross. I would take 30% on BotW to be a way better result than any of those.

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wolfgod37 posted...

I'm curious can anyone tell how well DQ11 would do against Persona 5 for comparison?

well, for some reference, Persona 5 held BotW to about 65% back in the 2017 GoTY poll. and its likely to be much stronger now (but BotW itself could also be stronger)

Team Rocket Elite posted...

I'm not super familiar on the DQ hierarchy. Would it be unusual for DQ11 to be stronger than DQ8?

DQ11 should be stronger than DQ8, thanks to Smash + a Switch port at the very least.

It's also got favorable circumstances, since traditional turn based JRPGs were still a dime a dozen when 8 came out which made it hard to stand out from the crowd, but were near extinction when 11 came out.

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DQVIII to DQXI are more or less like comparing Persona 4 to Persona 5 (in terms of strength in these contests), probably.

Sharinnegan posted...

well, for some reference, Persona 5 held BotW to about 65% back in the 2017 GoTY poll. and its likely to be much stronger now (but BotW itself could also be stronger)

Yeah, I'd think Persona 5 would do better today than back then.

Is anybody wavering about BotW being a lock to win the contest? Just curious :).

DQXI > DQVIII shouldn't even be a question tbh

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