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Doom_Art
02/14/20 11:26:16 PM
#403:


jwlim80 posted...
Does anyone is of the opinion that we should left the virus to run it's natural course and let it becomes a seasonal thing ? Since it's not very leathal ? Sound out if you agree.
There's a middle ground between doing nothing and collapsing into hysterics

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jwlim80
02/14/20 11:29:08 PM
#404:


Doom_Art posted...
There's a middle ground between doing nothing and collapsing into hysterics

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8005931/British-scientist-leading-coronavirus-fight-says-forecasts-400-000-UK-deaths.html

'I would much prefer to be accused of overreacting than under reacting. This virus is the one which probably concerns me the most out of everything I've worked on.'
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Doom_Art
02/14/20 11:44:40 PM
#406:


Iunno how that dailymail link changes what I said

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jwlim80
02/14/20 11:52:58 PM
#407:


Doom_Art posted...
Iunno how that dailymail link changes what I said

I believe it fits the defination of "middle ground" in my personal opinion.
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solosnake
02/15/20 1:25:10 AM
#408:


A #coronavirus quarantine craze in China is taking a new form. Construction workers in Huanggang are barricading buildings and stores, so nobody can escape.

https://twitter.com/ckloop9/status/1228488933027106816

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jwlim80
02/15/20 1:37:44 AM
#409:


Japanese man who visited Hawaii confirmed with coronavirus

https://apnews.com/cdb62cde6faf4302de1a269f6dd4a2ce
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Crepes
02/15/20 5:31:01 AM
#410:


Forst death in Europe. 80 year old Chinese tourist.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51514837

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jwlim80
02/15/20 6:11:26 AM
#411:


What's it like to get COVID-19 in China and what sort of support you'll expect to get :-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8004615/amp/Student-Wuhan-reveals-like-coronavirus.html

Very much what can be expected in a overwhelmed system. You get to a hospital, waited hours and tolerate pains to see the doctor. The doctors there can't really do much except to give you some pills.

You then go home, take those pills, roll into bed and pray for the best. If you survive, good. If not, too bad.
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Jx1010
02/15/20 7:35:11 AM
#412:


is it true this affects asian people more than other people?
I been hearing people ask why it doesnt affect others as much.
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Foppe
02/15/20 7:37:57 AM
#413:


Jx1010 posted...
is it true this affects asian people more than other people?
I been hearing people ask why it doesnt affect others as much.
Because of a thing called quarantine.

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PostCrisisJ2
02/15/20 7:43:46 AM
#414:


Jx1010 posted...
is it true this affects asian people more than other people?
I been hearing people ask why it doesnt affect others as much.

...The majority of people in China, where the outbreak started, are Asian.

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Doom_Art
02/15/20 7:58:55 AM
#415:


Jx1010 posted...
is it true this affects asian people more than other people?
I been hearing people ask why it doesnt affect others as much.
Ive heard some folks say it's because of a genetic thing but literally no major news org has repeated that so Iunno how much there is to that.

More likely why it appears to affect people in Asia more is

A) The virus attacks the lungs and respiratory system
B) Smoking among adults is way more common in Asia
C) Cities there are more smoggy
D) Hospital overcrowding/quarantine panic

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21WIVES_CHILL
02/15/20 9:07:36 AM
#416:


I feel like the majority of people in China just went to the hospital to get tested to ensure they dont have the virus even though they showed no symptoms, but eventually got infected with those other people in the hospital.
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MrZetsubou
02/15/20 10:19:05 AM
#417:


21WIVES_CHILL posted...
I feel like the majority of people in China just went to the hospital to get tested to ensure they dont have the virus even though they showed no symptoms, but eventually got infected with those other people in the hospital.

Yup, a large number of infections likely started in a hospital coz China is super overpopulated

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Jx1010
02/15/20 10:28:28 AM
#418:


Can we trust the info we are getting from the govt... since they been saying they dont want people to panic?
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Doom_Art
02/15/20 10:34:26 AM
#419:


Jx1010 posted...
Can we trust the info we are getting from the govt... since they been saying they dont want people to panic?
I mean at this point it's between govt figures and random unverified twitter stuff

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Jx1010
02/15/20 10:36:28 AM
#420:


Chinese woman harassed because of coronavirus

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MrZetsubou
02/15/20 10:50:56 AM
#421:


hope they get infected by corona for real and die from it

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Trelve
02/15/20 10:54:16 AM
#422:


8 of the 9 patients with Coronavirus in the UK have been discharged as they've recovered.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51514628
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The Trent
02/15/20 10:54:36 AM
#423:


Trelve posted...
8 of the 9 patients with Coronavirus in the UK have been discharged as they've recovered.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51514628

but what about the 1
fucking scary

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RobertDoback
02/15/20 11:05:49 AM
#424:


The Trent posted...
but what about the 1
fucking scary


You're like the class clown that no one laughs at yet you keep begging for attention; you're the kid making weird noises and then looking around to see if anyone's laughing.

Is something wrong with you? Legitimate question.


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The Trent
02/15/20 11:06:43 AM
#425:


we all float down here buddy

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RobertDoback
02/15/20 11:11:49 AM
#426:


The Trent posted...
we all float down here buddy

Yeeeeeaah, something's gotta be off. Assuming you were 13 when you created your account, no way a 30 year old man behaves like this without an underlying mental issue. At least I hope that's the case. Otherwise, that's pretty pathetic.

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The Trent
02/15/20 11:13:05 AM
#427:


sorry man, maybe we can still be friends even though you're grossly offended and terribly upset

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RobertDoback
02/15/20 11:17:03 AM
#428:


The Trent posted...
sorry man, maybe we can still be friends even though you're grossly offended and terribly upset

Typical troll response.

I'm derailing the topic at this point so I'll just throw you on that ignore list now.

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The Trent
02/15/20 11:42:01 AM
#429:


wait a minute...is he upset because i'm not scared enough? i'm confused now

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solosnake
02/15/20 1:12:55 PM
#430:


In 2014, a researcher accidentally contaminated a vial of a fairly harmless bird flu with a far deadlier strain. The deadlier bird flu was then shipped across the country to a lab that didnt have authorization to handle such a dangerous virus, where it was used for research on chickens.

The mistake was discovered only when the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) conducted an extensive investigation in the aftermath of a different mistake the potential exposure of 75 federal employees to live anthrax, after a lab that was supposed to inactivate the anthrax samples accidentally prepared activated ones.

The CDCs Select Agents and Toxins program requires that theft, loss, release causing an occupational exposure, or release outside of primary biocontainment barriers of agents on its watchlist be immediately reported. Between 2005 and 2012, the agency got 1,059 release reports an average of an incident every few days. Here are a few examples:

  • In 2008, a sterilization device malfunctioned and unexpectedly opened, exposing a nearby unvaccinated worker to undisclosed pathogens.
  • In 2009, a new high-security bio research facility, rated to handle Ebola, smallpox, and other dangerous pathogens, had its decontamination showers fail. The pressurized chamber kept losing pressure and the door back into the lab kept bursting open while the scientists leaned against it to try to keep it closed. Building engineers were eventually called to handle the chemical showers manually.
  • In 2011, a worker at a lab that studied dangerous strains of bird flu found herself unable to shower after a construction contractor accidentally shut off the water. She removed her protective equipment and left without taking a decontaminating shower. (She was escorted to another building and showered there, but pathogens could have been released in the meantime.)
Now, the vast majority of these mistakes never infect anyone. And while 1,059 is an eye-popping number of accidents, it actually reflects a fairly low rate of accidents working in a controlled biological agents lab is safe compared to many occupations, like trucking or fishing.

But a trucking or fishing accident will, at worst, kill a few dozen people, while a pandemic pathogen accident could potentially kill a few million. Considering the stakes and worst-case scenarios involved, its hard to look at those numbers and conclude that our precautions against disaster are sufficient.

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jwlim80
02/15/20 1:21:31 PM
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kingdrake2
02/15/20 3:30:11 PM
#432:


jwlim80 posted...
No surprise. They still have not learnt anything.


they'll learn it eventually even if took a 1000 repeats or more.
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Gladius_
02/15/20 4:04:03 PM
#433:


Jx1010 posted...
I dont have fear of dying of coronavirus, what Im concerned about is my family members and loved ones catching this. Unlike you, I care about other people and loved ones, even my parents.
Odd accusation considering I have stated I care about the rest of humanity, wished Muaythai well, have told people not to panic but to always be safe, helped people with their fears but cautioned that while it's unlikely they have the virus they should still see a doctor if nervous even if it's to calm their own fears, and have posted numerously that deaths are tragic. Telling people when they say "Should I be scared of it killing me" that it's very low odds that they will be effected is not the equivalent of someone saying "Yeah lol at the sick people man." which I have never once done in this thread.

There have been people who have mocked the sick, people who have mocked the dying, but not once have I done this. I have also cautioned that too much fear prevents people (such as doctors) from being able to acquire medical equipment they need is dangerous. Not something someone says if they don't care about other people. I would caution against baseless accusations.

Not to mention I posted about how we as a species will adapt (encouraging words) you're the one who made it about you.

Jx1010 posted... We?
Theres no we adapt if we are part of the ones that dont make it before the whole species does.

And then when I explained (followed by other users who backed me up) that the "we" was a "general we" you went on to say..

Jx1010 posted... The thing is, people say its not a big deal and its not the end of the world, not gonna end humanity. The world ends when you die, not when all humans die.

To which I responded that I was thinking of us as a whole. Humanity. While you were fixated on the individual. "The world ends when you die. Not when all humans die." Odd. I'm talking about others as a whole "Humanity." You speak of yourself and people as an individual but accuse me of not caring. It's silly.

Gladius_ posted... In the end like any new virus outbreak that comes out and begins circulating we as a species will adapt. It's that simple. As long as they're expedient with a vaccine we'll hopefully save as many lives as we can.

A quote by me. "Save as many lives as we can." totally don't care about anyone! /Sarcasm

So if you're done with your fixation on trying to make me look like a bad guy for not panicking can we move on?
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solosnake
02/15/20 6:01:38 PM
#434:


"Garbage Incinerator" Sent to #Wuhan( to support the fight with #COVID2019)! This report (http://bit.ly/2wdErFU) says. However, the Chinese characters on the square cabin read "Trash and Animal Carcass Processing Cabin", which make me wonder: what else they are "processing"?

https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1228815181611962368

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kingdrake2
02/15/20 6:05:57 PM
#435:


solosnake posted...
what else they are "processing"?


could be those dogs they killed.
they recently had some rounds with those.
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Noraneko_Vel
02/15/20 6:34:51 PM
#436:


yeah there's a baseless rumor that they're killing pets to prevent spread of corona. Even tho no one ever gave evidence animals can carry and infect with it

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solosnake
02/15/20 6:36:44 PM
#437:


Noraneko_Vel posted...
yeah there's a baseless rumor that they're killing pets to prevent spread of corona.
There are numerous videos showing them beating dogs to death with clubs. Im not sure why you always choose to defend the CCP

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Awesome
02/15/20 6:39:06 PM
#438:


https://twitter.com/paulmozur/status/1228751784111271936

stop fearmongering! This is nothing


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Gladius_
02/15/20 6:40:15 PM
#439:


Noraneko_Vel posted...
yeah there's a baseless rumor that they're killing pets to prevent spread of corona. Even tho no one ever gave evidence animals can carry and infect with it
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pokemon2poker
02/15/20 7:02:02 PM
#440:


Anyone have the link to the virus tracking map?

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Superlinkbro
02/15/20 7:08:13 PM
#441:


I saw a video of a dog getting beat because people in China still believe it is being spread by animals. Now I'm really depressed.

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Superlinkbro
02/15/20 7:13:31 PM
#443:


mrgoatthief posted...
Wtf that's not good at all
It was pretty bad. I immediately clicked off when the first hit was struck.

It was mostly my fault for looking at it, I have a bad habbit of clicking on random videos sometimes without reading the description. There wasn't really much of a warning though it just looked like any other tweet.

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solosnake
02/15/20 7:57:43 PM
#444:


https://twitter.com/Daniel12705565/status/1228845089805475840

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solosnake
02/15/20 7:58:35 PM
#445:


White House doesn't trust China's #coronavirus numbers, does "not have high confidence in the information coming out of China". China has been reluctant to accept help from CDC and has suppressed alarming information from scientists on COVID19 outbreak.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/15/heres-why-the-white-house-doesnt-trust-chinas-coronavirus-numbers.html

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21WIVES_CHILL
02/15/20 8:00:49 PM
#446:


This is stupid. Are they just gonna kill every animal in wuhan now? Next they'll just start killing people.
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solosnake
02/15/20 8:02:41 PM
#447:


Amazing. This is how you do your grocery "shopping" in an era of #COVID2019

https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1228817073889009664

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MuayThai85
02/15/20 8:04:41 PM
#448:


21WIVES_CHILL posted...
This is stupid. Are they just gonna kill every animal in wuhan now? Next they'll just start killing people.

Well, this is the same country that decided to eradicate all birds because some ate the grain which lead to locust destroying all the groups and one of the biggest famines in world history.

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jwlim80
02/15/20 8:10:17 PM
#449:


21WIVES_CHILL posted...
Next they'll just start killing people.

And how are they not practising this now by applying Darwinism in their concentration quarantine facilities ?

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kingdrake2
02/15/20 8:35:12 PM
#450:


21WIVES_CHILL posted...
Next they'll just start killing people.


they'll start doing that eventually. they already culled pets.
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Gladius_
02/15/20 10:39:51 PM
#451:


Superlinkbro posted...
I saw a video of a dog getting beat because people in China still believe it is being spread by animals. Now I'm really depressed.
Those people are insane. Killing animals is doing nothing to stop the spread of the virus. Animals that probably can't even catch the virus in the first place.
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Noraneko_Vel
02/15/20 11:12:45 PM
#452:


Gladius_ posted...
Killing animals is doing nothing to stop the spread of the virus

IIRC some "expert" said pet animals can spread corona with zero evidence.
Result was visible right away, people started posting news of orders to get rid of pets in some Chinese places and a few days later there were videos of some group beating people's dogs to death with a stick.

Note that none of this officially went public outside of China afaik. Just these random tweets people here post. WHO strongly rejects the theory.

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