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pokemon2poker
02/10/20 2:52:07 AM
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Should we be scares?


Let's keep this going folks.

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Crepes
02/10/20 2:53:56 AM
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Wonder how much trolling we are going to get in this iteration of the thread?

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viewmaster_pi
02/10/20 2:56:02 AM
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long live corona virus

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jwlim80
02/10/20 2:56:28 AM
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It'd be hard to keep silenced if it was a wide epidemic. People would be all over social media.

In this case, the symptoms are almost totally flu-like given the nature of the virus, it's easy to pass it off.

Look at how China write the autopsy report. "Viral pneumonia".
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pokemon2poker
02/10/20 2:59:08 AM
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jwlim80 posted...
In this case, the symptoms are almost totally flu-like given the nature of the virus, it's easy to pass it off.
At least until things got really severe. I live pretty close to a hospital. I'd noticed an influx of traffic if things blew up over here.

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pokemon2poker
02/10/20 3:01:59 AM
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I'll admit I went into tinfoil hat fear mode when Kobe died and people started flocking around the Staples Center. This was right around the first two cases in SoCal were reported. Chinatown is pregnant darn close to the Staples Center, and it's likely people living in Chinatown could've had exposure to people who picked up the virus in China. Two weeks have passed and nothing.

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jwlim80
02/10/20 3:04:43 AM
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pokemon2poker posted...
At least until things got really severe. I live pretty close to a hospital. I'd noticed an influx of traffic if things blew up over here.

I have no evidence to back up my theory, of course.

But the idea is that people are stupid as a whole and some things are generally best kept in the dark until the appropiate time to annouce them.
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jwlim80
02/10/20 3:12:48 AM
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pokemon2poker posted...
I'll admit I went into tinfoil hat fear mode when Kobe died and people started flocking around the Staples Center. This was right around the first two cases in SoCal were reported. Chinatown is pregnant darn close to the Staples Center, and it's likely people living in Chinatown could've had exposure to people who picked up the virus in China. Two weeks have passed and nothing.

It's either a scare, or they did a good job containing it.

Either case, good job on keeping the populance cool and not allowing the virus to spread.

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Noraneko_Vel
02/10/20 3:57:59 AM
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Would be weird if it's getting kept secret worldwide. You'd think some would be kept out of loop and sound emergencies.

Well, in Germany all cases are from the same source and infection chain, in US they're not even testing anyone for it regardless from where you came. It's likely just getting ignored like the flu.

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solosnake
02/10/20 4:01:13 AM
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undefined posted...
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/09/chinese-diplomat-coronavirus-gop-senator-112820

interesting piece on politico. first ive heard of this conspiracy and it doesnt help that china is silencing so many people
Actually, I first heard about that conspiracy on here, possibly even in this topic

That was me, and the mods put me on warn for it and deleted the post. Might be why you didnt see it. Not allowed to think for yourself here.

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solosnake
02/10/20 4:31:39 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-10-20-intl-hnk/h_0e0b82878caac23d7a94c504c7d1d374

There are 66 newly confirmed coronavirus cases aboard the Diamond Princess ship docked in Yokohama, according to an announcement just made by the ships captain Stefano Ravera.
That brings the total number of cases on the ship to 136, nearly doubling the previous total of 70 confirmed cases yesterday.

Ravera cautioned that this does not mean that the quarantine is not working.
It was not unexpected, the additional cases, involving individuals exposed prior to the start of the quarantine, he said.

Japanese authorities are still testing hundreds of passengers on board the ship, which has been stuck at the harbor south of the capital Tokyo for almost a week now.
Evidence is increasingly pointing to a full blown outbreak on board the ship, the largest outside of mainland China, where the vast majority of cases have been reported until now.

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Newhopes
02/10/20 5:54:48 AM
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4 more cases found in the UK threat level risen to moderate.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
02/10/20 6:02:01 AM
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Crazy that the US seems to be faring better than other countries. Helps that we're so spread out

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solosnake
02/10/20 6:04:14 AM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Crazy that the US seems to be faring better than other countries. Helps that we're so spread out
yeah, i dont think the average person realizes how densely populated Wuhan is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7fh4qjO3C0

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Crepes
02/10/20 7:15:38 AM
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UK Government have describes the virus as a serious and imminent threat...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51442314

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Newhopes
02/10/20 7:18:28 AM
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UK just passed a bill allowing forced quarantine.

Just the Flu bro.

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Crepes
02/10/20 7:26:36 AM
#18:


Newhopes posted...
UK just passed a bill allowing forced quarantine.

Just the Flu bro.

source?

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solosnake
02/10/20 7:32:12 AM
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These two videos together really hit me hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIpIkpujAG4

https://twitter.com/HimalayaGlobal/status/1225411980090982402

I really hope Chen Qiushi is okay

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Newhopes
02/10/20 7:40:26 AM
#20:


Crepes posted...
source?

UK news.

It's also in the first few paragraphs in the leak you posted lol.
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The Trent
02/10/20 7:42:02 AM
#21:


Scary

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Newhopes
02/10/20 7:53:38 AM
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Researchers from the MRC centre for global infectious disease say the case fatality ratio for Hubei province is 18%.
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Feline_Heart
02/10/20 7:57:55 AM
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I apologize if what Im about to say sounds stupid. So it seems like every couple of years a new deadly virus appears and everyone goes crazy and acts like the world is ending. Weve had mad cow disease, swine flu, Ebola, Zika and now corona virus. But even though everyone starts acting like these diseases are everywhere and you have a high chance of getting infected, it seems like these outbreaks always get contained quckly and everything blows over very fast.

So Im just wondering why everyone gets so hysterical about this stuff every time. It seems like your chances of getting one of these diseases in a first world country is about the same as winning the lottery but everyone still goes crazy anyway

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averagejoel
02/10/20 8:10:46 AM
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China's doing a really good job at keeping this virus contained, and the xenophobia that they're receiving for it is ridiculous

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Newhopes
02/10/20 8:22:25 AM
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New paper that is co authored by Dr Zhang nanshan who was the lead doctor during the SARS outbreak and leading advisor in the current outbreak believes the incubation period of the Coronavirus could be as long as 24 days.
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Crepes
02/10/20 8:25:26 AM
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Feline_Heart posted...
I apologize if what Im about to say sounds stupid. So it seems like every couple of years a new deadly virus appears and everyone goes crazy and acts like the world is ending. Weve had mad cow disease, swine flu, Ebola, Zika and now corona virus. But even though everyone starts acting like these diseases are everywhere and you have a high chance of getting infected, it seems like these outbreaks always get contained quckly and everything blows over very fast.

So Im just wondering why everyone gets so hysterical about this stuff every time. It seems like your chances of getting one of these diseases in a first world country is about the same as winning the lottery but everyone still goes crazy anyway

Because the news and media love it when something like this comes out like this as it means they are going to get more viewers. The longer they can keep it going and the more scared they can make the public the better.

On the flip side thats not to say the quarantine and other things put in place are an overreaction. They are still needed to try and contain the virus.

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jwlim80
02/10/20 8:26:32 AM
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Newhopes posted...
Researchers from the MRC centre for global infectious disease say the case fatality ratio for Hubei province is 18%.

No doubt because of their medical system being in shambles, thanks to their incompetent government.

averagejoel posted...
China's doing a really good job at keeping this virus contained, and the xenophobia that they're receiving for it is ridiculous

Possibly. But that came as a price of letting their own people suffer.

Feline_Heart posted...
So Im just wondering why everyone gets so hysterical about this stuff every time.

It's something that was built into us. Just like how we are all naturally scared of huge predators, snakes and certain insects.

The government freaked out because it might mean a weaker population and military if we let the thing run amok.
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averagejoel
02/10/20 8:28:39 AM
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jwlim80 posted...
Possibly. But that came as a price of letting their own people suffer.
what are you talking about

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Solid Sonic
02/10/20 8:31:44 AM
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I need someone to blame for this.

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Anticyclonic
02/10/20 8:34:31 AM
#30:


Flu infects 180,000 Americans and kills ~10,000 of them this year
Americans:
Wuhan Coronavirus infects about 40,000 globally and kills about 900 globally..most of which are on the other side of the world from Americans
Americans:

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jwlim80
02/10/20 8:36:06 AM
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averagejoel posted...
what are you talking about

Let just say the conditions in Hubei are less than ideal. Evident when you have the death rate in China compared to International death rate.
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Gladius_
02/10/20 8:38:29 AM
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Anticyclonic posted...
Flu infects 180,000 Americans and kills ~10,000 of them this year
Americans:
Wuhan Coronavirus infects about 40,000 globally and kills about 900 globally
Americans:
Actually it has infected closer to 22,000,000 Americans. 180,000 are hospitalized, and over 10,000 dead. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html but yeah just proving your point. Here in the U.S. catching Corona virus? You are over 4 times as likely to die by a lightning strike.
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Crepes
02/10/20 8:39:01 AM
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Doctors Surgery closed due to member of staff having virus. That potentially puts every patient that has visited there at risk...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51447761

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averagejoel
02/10/20 8:39:32 AM
#34:


jwlim80 posted...
Let just say the conditions in Hubei are less than ideal. Evident when you see the death rate in China compared to International death rate.
how long has Flint, Michigan been without safe drinking water again?

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The Trent
02/10/20 8:39:52 AM
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God damn it I am scared

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jwlim80
02/10/20 8:41:10 AM
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averagejoel posted...
how long has Flint, Michigan been without safe drinking water again?

We are talking about official figures of people killed by the virus
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Mistere Man
02/10/20 8:42:50 AM
#37:


averagejoel posted...
how long has Flint, Michigan been without safe drinking water again?
Ever since they got fracked by big business.

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Newhopes
02/10/20 8:43:04 AM
#38:


Anticyclonic posted...
Flu infects 180,000 Americans and kills ~10,000 of them this year
Americans:
Wuhan Coronavirus infects about 40,000 globally and kills about 900 globally
Americans:

Flu infects between 10 to 15 million a year in the us and kills around 10k, if Coronavirus infected the same number you we'll see 200-300 thousand dead at least.
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Anticyclonic
02/10/20 8:47:40 AM
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Gladius_ posted...
Actually it has infected closer to 22,000,000 Americans. 180,000 are hospitalized, and over 10,000 dead. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html but yeah just proving your point. Here in the U.S. catching Corona virus? You are over 4 times as likely to die by a lightning strike.

Thanks for the correction!

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Error1355
02/10/20 8:50:09 AM
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Anticyclonic posted...
Flu infects 180,000 Americans and kills ~10,000 of them this year
Americans:
Wuhan Coronavirus infects about 40,000 globally and kills about 900 globally..most of which are on the other side of the world from Americans
Americans:
Watch out, they will block you for trying to use reasoning.

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Anticyclonic
02/10/20 8:52:07 AM
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Newhopes posted...
Flu infects between 10 to 15 million a year in the us and kills around 10k, if Coronavirus infected the same number you we'll see 200-300 thousand dead at least.

You're extrapolating from too small a data set and you dont have the data to make that claim. A handful of Americans within the US and our healthcare system have been infected and I believe none of them have died yet still. We simply don't know how many Americans would die if 10 million of us got infected, especially once doctors got more experience treating it, etc.

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averagejoel
02/10/20 8:53:32 AM
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jwlim80 posted...
We are talking about official figures of people killed by the virus
posts 27 and 31 both read as deflections to me. was that not the case?

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Newhopes
02/10/20 8:59:19 AM
#43:


Anticyclonic posted...
You're extrapolating from too small a data set and you dont have the data to make that claim. A handful of Americans within the US and our healthcare system have been infected and I believe none of them have died yet still. We simply don't know how many Americans would die if 10 million of us got infected, especially once doctors got more experience treating it, etc.

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ssjevot
02/10/20 9:00:36 AM
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averagejoel posted...
how long has Flint, Michigan been without safe drinking water again?

Is it a requirement for communists to only use whataboutism when people point out how crappy communism is for people? In case you didn't know China's entire supply of water isn't safe to drink.

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The Trent
02/10/20 9:02:05 AM
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because of all the coronavirus in the water?

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averagejoel
02/10/20 9:02:13 AM
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ssjevot posted...
Is it a requirement for communists to only use whataboutism when people point out how crappy communism is for people? In case you didn't know China's entire supply of water isn't safe to drink.
posts 27 and 31 both seemed like whataboutism to me. if that was not the case then I apologize

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ssjevot
02/10/20 9:03:56 AM
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The Trent posted...
because of all the coronavirus in the water?

It's been unsafe to drink for all of modern history due to not being treated. You will get sick. Ignoring that, there are of course also high levels of chemicals, and heavy metals that boiling won't help with, but that will only cause problems in the long run.

Convincing my fiancee she could drink the tap water in Japan was hard to do, after a lifetime of living in Wuhan.

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kingdrake2
02/10/20 9:04:12 AM
#48:


ssjevot posted...
China's entire supply of water isn't safe to drink.


it's like that in other parts of the world, they're not the first ones.
even in vegas the water isn't safe to drink.
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ssjevot
02/10/20 9:07:14 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
it's like that in other parts of the world, they're not the first ones.
even in vegas the water isn't safe to drink.

Right, he just randomly decided to defend China by pointing out one city in the US doesn't have safe drinking water when the entire country of China doesn't have it. He literally knows nothing about China but feels compelled to defend it because their government claims to be communist. If you put some fascists in red clothing he just can't help himself, reality be damned. China manages to have worse income inequality than the US and he doesn't care at all because it's a fashion statement to him, not an actual ideal.

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averagejoel
02/10/20 9:10:40 AM
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ssjevot posted...
Right, he just randomly decided to defend China by pointing out one city in the US doesn't have safe drinking water when the entire country of China doesn't have it. He literally knows nothing about China but feels compelled to defend it because their government claims to be communist. If you put some fascists in red clothing he just can't help himself, reality be damned. China manages to have worse income inequality than the US and he doesn't care at all because it's a fashion statement to him, not an actual ideal.
that's an awful lot of information you managed to glean from what I've said in this topic

I used a whataboutism because I was responding to something that I thought was a whataboutism

I have not defended china here, nor do I feel compelled to

so kindly shut the fuck up

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The Trent
02/10/20 9:11:37 AM
#51:


guys guys
please stop arguing it's stressing out my already heightened sense of terror. guys.

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