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solosnake
02/12/20 12:03:26 PM
#202:


GregShmedley posted...
Do we have proof that warm weather impacts transmission yet?
Trump said so, so it must be true

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solosnake
02/12/20 12:07:04 PM
#203:


Early Tuesday morning, health officials in Hong Kong partially evacuated residents from an apartment block over fears the coronavirus may have been transmitted via the building's pipes.
Two residents living on different floors of a high-rise tower called Hong Mei House, in northwestern Hong Kong's Tsing Yi, had been infected with coronavirus, health officials said.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/asia/hong-kong-coronavirus-pipes-intl-hnk/index.html

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Jx1010
02/12/20 12:20:28 PM
#204:


Any chance this whole situation will affect the economy in the US?
Given everything is made in china, even pharmaceuticals.
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Jx1010
02/12/20 12:38:59 PM
#206:


GregShmedley posted...
That's my biggest worry of all. Only time will tell at this point.

The numbers being released are lowering by the day. If that is a legitimate trend, then things may be looking positive. But it's also China. So back to the original point--only time will tell.
What numbers?
Since when are the numbers coming from china legit?
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CrimsonStrider
02/12/20 1:27:25 PM
#207:


I'm currently in China, in a district of Xi'an. I'm a US citizen.

Xi'an is comprised of a several districts and it's a fairly large are with a dense and modern city center. The districts are disjointed mini cities that enjoy a fairly modern lifestyle but with strong rural surrounding and a mix between rural type Chinese and more urban ones.

Right now we have about 110 confirmed cases and no reported deaths. This province borders Hubei province which is where Wuhan is.

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kingdrake2
02/12/20 1:31:21 PM
#208:


solosnake posted...
health officials in Hong Kong partially evacuated residents from an apartment block over fears the coronavirus may have been transmitted via the building's pipes.


damn.... didn't think it could go as far as airborne (long distance).
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Noraneko_Vel
02/12/20 1:33:34 PM
#209:


kingdrake2 posted...
damn.... didn't think it could go as far as airborne (long distance).

modified pipes, so it's afaik still potentially a droplet infection

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ssjevot
02/12/20 1:47:48 PM
#210:


CrimsonStrider posted...
I'm currently in China, in a district of Xi'an. I'm a US citizen.

Xi'an is comprised of a several districts and it's a fairly large are with a dense and modern city center. The districts are disjointed mini cities that enjoy a fairly modern lifestyle but with strong rural surrounding and a mix between rural type Chinese and more urban ones.

Right now we have about 110 confirmed cases and no reported deaths. This province borders Hubei province which is where Wuhan is.

edit: Accidentally hit post, I'll finish in a second post

As someone who took the $1000 evacuation flight, get out now on a regular flight. Go to South Korea, Japan, Indonesia, wherever is close and wait it out there. You don't want to fly all the way back to the US, sit in a room for two weeks, and then fly back later. Waste of time and money. Even worse there could be no evacuation flight and then you just have to sit in your apartment for who knows how long.

The virus itself isn't scary to me, but the shittyness of having now gone over a month without being able to go where I want sucks.

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CrimsonStrider
02/12/20 1:56:02 PM
#211:


We've been in a semi lockdown for about 3 weeks now, but as if Monday they've stepped it up. Each family must register with their building's management for a pass that let's one person from each household out to buy food once every 2 days. Supposedly for 2 hours but I imagine my building will be lax with that.

Almost everything is shutdown. Supermarket, KFC, some other food services, pharmacies, hospitals are open.

You need to show your Chinese ID when entering the supermarket. I tried on Monday but they wouldn't let me in, since as an expat we don't have ID. I asked if my passport was ok and they said yes at first, then no when I said I was American. Heh. I made a stink about that and told them to sort it out with the local Gov't. I'll go tomorrow.

People aren't panicking here but they're on edge. People angrily arguing with the dude handling passes.

Apparently they've quarantined areas, so I can't go to downtown Xi'an and my coworkers can't come visit me etc.

I live with a good view of the main street and have seen emergency vehicles go by dozens of times these past weeks. One hint that numbers aren't accurate, because my district is far from downtown and small.

Things to consider regarding China that I've seen confirmed many times.

When someone is sick with preexisting conditions and they die, from a flu for instance, their cause of death is written as the pre existing condition. That's why China technically has a low flu mortality rate. It's also a loophole regarding the current virus.

There's also the thought that provincial governments are worried about backlash and aren't properly reporting deaths.

I've seen leaked videos of medical workers making these comments.

Wuhan only gets 2000 test kits a day. So they cannot confirm more than 2k a day. This number may have changed by now. But other countries have mentioned producing test kits isn't easy.

They've mentioned small hospitals often have 1 to 2 deaths a day. Some hospitals have turned their ER room into a temporary morgue because the crematoriums are at full capacity.

Originally one crematorium was handling all the bodies and were told to go from 4h a day to 24. Estimates at 220 bodies a day. I've heard that now there are at least four running 24h, but this morning I heard people mention there are 49 crematoriums working overtime atm.

The hospital they built is actually basically a triage. People are getting cross infected there, no hot water, toilets outside, no medicine. Basically a giant quarantine ward.

Some of the wards have no medicine and family members must provide medication but cannot enter facilities. Nobody is allowed to leave facilities.

There are people, out of fear, barricading suspected infected individuals into their home. Neighbors send food by lowering things from windows.
At least one child died because the family was quarantined.

I saw a video of a woman falling out of a window. Not sure why.

Videos of people beating people from Wuhan, or infected people, or people without masks bloody.

People are praising China, but the truth is, they're panicking. They can only do this much because they don't care about human rights. That's good and bad. Maybe this outbreak is so bad that this is the only way to deal with it. But they shouldn't be praised for it.

They're taking every jab they can at the US.
They've put bounties on people from Wuhan.
Some local governments are encouraging people in postal service to seize medical supplies (masks). I've heard others have lost their package. We'll see if my masks make it.
They've known of this virus since early Dec.
They're hiding so much info from the public.
The fucking videos and propaganda piss me off. Videos of people in quarantine wards dancing and doing kung fu. One comment I read was Looking at this makes me wish I was quarantined too (their comment section is moderated and also propaganda)

Meanwhile lots of heartbreaking leaked videos that are abundant on YouTube but never see the light of day here.

My friend's grandma had a stroke and died alone in the hospital because everyone was worried about becoming infected.

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kingdrake2
02/12/20 2:00:22 PM
#212:


CrimsonStrider posted...
My friend's grandma had a stroke and died alone


damn. that really sucks (it's the worse fate anyone could live with).
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CrimsonStrider
02/12/20 2:05:35 PM
#213:


With all that said, there's also this to consider.

While the death toll is undeniably higher, some conservative estimates saying 20 to 30k based on crematorium math, that also means total infected case is probably much higher. It also means it's very likely a vast majority of people have a mild case that doesn't require hospitalization.

Current estimates are that 15 percent or so require ICU and of that 15 percent maybe 6 percent are fatal cases (I keep seeing that number change). High risk group seems to be older individuals, smokers, and people with high blood pressure. Being male might also he a risk factor.

People are worried about a potentially long incubation period, up to 24days. We'll see what they say about that over the next few days.

Aerosolized infection is a concern and is likely.

They're trying to figure out how someone 10
floors below an infected individuals became infected. Worried about it traveling via pipes.

@ssjevot

My family wants me to, but I wanna see what happens. I'm pretty zhai, heh. I brought my power rack from the gym to my apartment on my grocery day and I bought some nice inline skates right before the lockdown. So I skate in the parking lot, workout, cook, or play games. Really my life hasn't changed much.

I have pets. I also want to be here in case anyone I care about needs help. I wish I could help in general. I think at the bare minimum if the situation degrades here I can be a citizen journalist of sorts.

From watching all the Wuhan videos... I keep thinking this must be what the beginning of the cultural revolution felt like.
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ssjevot
02/12/20 2:11:18 PM
#214:


I was in Wuhan until last week. It's not nearly as bad as people seem to want it to be. It's just very boring. It's nothing like the cultural revolution. Shit people were eating other people for nothing but political reasons at that time (as in not due to famine, even when food wasn't scarce they did it in some places).

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CrimsonStrider
02/12/20 2:16:45 PM
#215:


@ssjevot

I understand what you mean. Of course, watching leaked videos presents it's own bias. It's hard to say what it's like without being in the midst of it. As mentioned things seem normal here too, but I can't exactly walk around freely either.

Before you left Wuhan, did they already have some system implemented to restrict people leaving their designated areas?
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Newhopes
02/12/20 2:17:47 PM
#216:


London first case.
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ssjevot
02/12/20 2:19:37 PM
#217:


CrimsonStrider posted...
@ssjevot

I understand what you mean. Of course, watching leaked videos presents it's own bias. It's hard to say what it's like without being in the midst of it. As mentioned things seem normal here too, but I can't exactly walk around freely either.

Before you left Wuhan, did they already have some system implemented to restrict people leaving their designated areas?

Yeah, because we were downtown, only one person a day could leave, and you also needed permission to drive. It was super boring. They also had communist propaganda blaring outside. I took a video of it but it's kind of hard to hear. I can't say I ever saw or heard anything actually interesting. I was mainly playing DQ11 on Switch.

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CrimsonStrider
02/12/20 2:24:11 PM
#218:


Gotcha, hope you and your SO remain safe and healthy.
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solosnake
02/12/20 5:37:09 PM
#219:


Top CDC official says US should prepare for coronavirus 'to take a foothold'

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/12/cdc-prepares-for-coronavirus-to-take-a-foothold-in-the-us.html

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glitteringfairy
02/12/20 5:39:09 PM
#220:


solosnake posted...
Top CDC official says US should prepare for coronavirus 'to take a foothold'

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/12/cdc-prepares-for-coronavirus-to-take-a-foothold-in-the-us.html
Preparing is fine. Always prepare for worse case scenarios so your not caught off guard. This is like life lesson 101

Whats wrong with preparing?

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kingdrake2
02/12/20 6:38:11 PM
#221:


solosnake posted...
Top CDC official says US should prepare for coronavirus 'to take a foothold'


the US is the next target for the infection GAWD DAMNIT.
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RIPVyseCity
02/12/20 6:43:52 PM
#222:


solosnake posted...
Trump said so, so it must be true
That's right
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Newhopes
02/12/20 6:51:43 PM
#223:


Jesus christ.

Hubei 14840 new cases 242 deaths.
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solosnake
02/12/20 6:53:33 PM
#224:


Newhopes posted...
Jesus christ.

Hubei 14840 new cases 242 deaths.
yeah, its shown no signs of slowing down sadly, i think thats why CDC is telling us to prepare for it now

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Newhopes
02/12/20 6:58:02 PM
#226:


All i can think is WHO is at ground zero and they can't hide the numbers anymore.
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solosnake
02/12/20 7:06:17 PM
#227:


Los Angeles county is telling more than 1000 people to self-quarantine after recent travel to China. More than 1,000 people have been assigned a public health nurse and asked to self-isolate and not to go to work or school for 14 days.

https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1227741654167302154

kind of fucked up that over 1,000 people are allowed to self isolate, while our friend @ssjevot is locked up

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ssjevot
02/12/20 7:17:47 PM
#228:


Everyone at quarantine in Japan was there voluntarily. Also our quarantine here is such a badly run shit show that our WeChat group is collectively making decisions on what we should do. This is in response to a second confirmed case at the other base. It's likely that person was infected at quarantine, which isn't a surprise when they encourage us not to wear masks and to do group activities together. It's unreal how little they care despite requiring us to be here.

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jwlim80
02/12/20 7:37:23 PM
#229:


Newhopes posted...
Jesus christ.

Hubei 14840 new cases 242 deaths.

Is that suppose to be surprising when I mentioned time and again that Hubei's medical system is essentially in a state of collapse ?
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Jx1010
02/12/20 7:43:33 PM
#230:


solosnake posted...
Los Angeles county is telling more than 1000 people to self-quarantine after recent travel to China. More than 1,000 people have been assigned a public health nurse and asked to self-isolate and not to go to work or school for 14 days.

https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1227741654167302154

kind of fucked up that over 1,000 people are allowed to self isolate, while our friend @ssjevot is locked up
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02/12/20 8:03:38 PM
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pokemon2poker
02/12/20 8:10:09 PM
#233:


I'm feeling better today physically, but I'm in LA so I'm starting to feel like The Trent.

Just wondering, where's everyone from?

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kingdrake2
02/12/20 8:12:02 PM
#234:


pokemon2poker posted...
Just wondering, where's everyone from?


Portland, OR

which is why we freaked out about the washington case.
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Jx1010
02/12/20 8:12:35 PM
#235:


pokemon2poker posted...
I'm feeling better today physically, but I'm in LA so I'm starting to feel like The Trent.

Just wondering, where's everyone from?
NY and so far no cases yet.
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pokemon2poker
02/12/20 8:25:32 PM
#236:


kingdrake2 posted...
Portland, OR

which is why we freaked out about the washington case.
You're sandwiched between WA and CA. Good luck. I'm concerned. I've loaded up on gallons of water, and canned goods. Might get more.

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solosnake
02/12/20 8:38:09 PM
#237:


Deceased Idaho man is being tested for possible #coronavirus. Testing is underway on a 71-year-old Boise man who died last week after a trip to China, and officials are trying to determine whether he may have contracted the highly-infectious coronavirus during his trip. (KTVB7)

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solosnake
02/12/20 9:55:55 PM
#238:


14th case of #coronavirus confirmed in the U.S. CDC reported, the patient in San Diego is a person who was evacuated from Wuhan, China and is one of the passengers who arrived on a Department of State-chartered flight from Wuhan to Marine Corps Air Station in San Diego. (NBC)

https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1227783525367152640


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Jx1010
02/12/20 10:06:50 PM
#240:


News:
Some dude gets caught with a bunch of dead birds in his luggage at the airport lol

https://www.khou.com/mobile/article/news/dulles-cbp-seizes-dead-birds-from-passenger-bag/285-ab887e01-0616-4d94-b9a2-2e33859896f9

cmon like he chose the best time to do this
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solosnake
02/12/20 11:15:15 PM
#241:


US military prepping for coronavirus pandemic

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/02/13/us-military-prepping-for-coronavirus-pandemic/

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kingdrake2
02/12/20 11:39:11 PM
#242:


solosnake posted...
US military prepping for coronavirus pandemic


i'm probably going to stock up on canned goods just in case even if the thing doesn't pan out (always handy to have it in severe storms).
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solosnake
02/13/20 12:14:50 AM
#243:


U.S. MARINE CORPS DISEASE CONTAINMENT PREPAREDNESS PLANNING GUIDANCE FOR 2019 NOVEL CORONAVIRUS

https://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/Messages-Display/Article/2081806/us-marine-corps-disease-containment- preparedness-planning-guidance-for-2019-nov/#.XkS9hv4uavs.twitter

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Tired-Insomniac
02/13/20 12:20:48 AM
#244:


Haven't been following all the news at all, I know there was a badass hospital built in like a week, there's a cruise ship full of sick people, etc.

Oh also I'm like 25 minutes away from the facility where they're keeping a bunch of quarantined people in Nebraska

It was nice knowing you guys

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Jx1010
02/13/20 12:27:04 AM
#245:


Tired-Insomniac posted...
Haven't been following all the news at all, I know there was a badass hospital built in like a week, there's a cruise ship full of sick people, etc.

Oh also I'm like 25 minutes away from the facility where they're keeping a bunch of quarantined people in Nebraska

It was nice knowing you guys
Its not a hospital, its a quarantine area.

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solosnake
02/13/20 12:27:26 AM
#246:




3.D.1.J. Become familiar with authority to declare a public health emergency, restrict movement, quarantine and isolate. Coordinate with Federal, State, local, and military treatment facilities and public health emergency officials outlined in Section 3 of reference B.

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RIPVyseCity
02/13/20 12:31:16 AM
#247:


solosnake posted...
U.S. MARINE CORPS DISEASE CONTAINMENT PREPAREDNESS PLANNING GUIDANCE FOR 2019 NOVEL CORONAVIRUS

https://www.marines.mil/News/Messages/Messages-Display/Article/2081806/us-marine-corps-disease-containment- preparedness-planning-guidance-for-2019-nov/#.XkS9hv4uavs.twitter

Summarize it in one word
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Newhopes
02/13/20 1:43:12 AM
#248:


Son loi a village in northern Vietnam has been locked down for 20 days.
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Lonestar2000
02/13/20 3:14:49 AM
#249:


https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccine-san-diego/509-e18e37f6-347c-4b08-ad33-910968abb04f

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Crepes
02/13/20 3:36:06 AM
#250:


Newhopes posted...
Jesus christ.

Hubei 14840 new cases 242 deaths.

theyve changed the way they diagnose the virus.

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Noraneko_Vel
02/13/20 3:38:42 AM
#251:


"We have an algorithm which we designed, and we put the DNA sequence into our algorithm and came up with the vaccine in that short amount of time," said Dr. Smith.

Uh yeah, suuuure you did

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