Poll of the Day > How did Trump get away with rigging not one, but two presidential elections?

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This is going to live on for the rest of our lives. A moment for the history books.

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a little thing called corruption

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

hey guys my phone is fully charged. 62% battery!!!

lol

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62% of the way through the super bowl!!! the 49ers are SB champs!!!!!

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Never happened is why. Big media made up a story and it fell apart. Now can we get back to more important things like games again?

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DPsx7 posted...

Never happened is why. Big media made up a story and it fell apart. Now can we get back to more important things like games again?

What story?

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Trump rigged the election by actually campaigning in the rust belt.

He has nothing to do with the current rigging.

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Yellow posted...

He has nothing to do with the current rigging.

so it wasnt him that blocked aid to war torn ukraine while making the request to announce an investigation into his political opponent?

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Mead posted...

so it wasnt him that blocked aid to war torn ukraine while making the request to announce an investigation into his political opponent?

That is most likely true and illegal, but not rigging an election.

Rigging an election is gerrymandering and voter fraud.

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Yellow posted...

That is most likely true and illegal, but not rigging an election.

Its abusing power and taking advantage of an ally to damage an assumed opponent in the election. I call that rigging.

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GOP already saying that they will expunge Trump if they take back the House.

Thats nonsense to regain power.

2020 is literally the fight for the soul of the country.

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Mead posted...

Its abusing power and taking advantage of an ally to damage an assumed opponent in the election. I call that rigging.

I don't because the end result was just more verbal ammo for Trump. It's pretty irrelevant how he obtained that information as far as interfering with an election goes.

Am I helping him rig the election by reposting what he said on Twitter? (If I would actually do that)

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Yellow posted...

It's pretty irrelevant how he obtained that information as far as interfering with an election goes.

No.

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Mead posted...

No.

Yeah no. Outside of threats or doxing, you can say literally anything about your opponent and that's not rigging an election.

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Yellow posted...

Rigging an election is gerrymandering and voter fraud.

Even gerrymandering doesn't really rise to rigging an election, considering that gerrymandering is a complex entirely legal process (unless you're doing it on the basis of race or religion) whereas voter fraud is flat-out illegal.

HornedLion posted...

GOP already saying that they will expunge Trump if they take back the House.

Thats nonsense to regain power.

2020 is literally the fight for the soul of the country.

Nonsense is having the impeachment happen in the first place.

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Yellow posted...

Yeah no. Outside of threats or doxing, you can say literally anything about your opponent and that's not rigging an election.

Trump wasnt just saying something though

he was illegally blocking congress approved aid in exchange for a favor to influence the 2020 election. Thats a fact.

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Gerrymandering is a way to bypass direct democracy any way you want to slice it. It's controlled by either the DNC or the RNC, both just rig it in their favor as hard as possible whenever they have control.

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Mead posted...

Trump wasnt just saying something though

he was illegally blocking congress approved aid in exchange for a favor to influence the 2020 election. Thats a fact.

Yeah, and that end result was dirt on his opponent. That "favor" is pretty important. I'm glad that Biden got exposed tbh.

If Trump threatened Kim Jong Un with a nuke until Kim gave him evidence that Joe was a child molester, so he could go rail on him on the campaign trail, that would not be rigging an election, because he's just gaining information. If Trump asked him for "assistance" actually committing voter fraud, that would. Big difference.

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There's no proof that trump ever blocked aid though. He just asked the dude to look into something but he never made it a condition of receiving aid. this is a narrative painted by the democrats probably because they didn't want Biden investigated honestly

Also OP has gone off the deep end I think

It's the Democrats that are trying to make it two in a row, finding an even more undesirable candidate to run against Trump in 2016, and doubling down with bad candidates plus their pointless "impeachment" circus this time.

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Mead posted...

Its abusing power and taking advantage of an ally to damage an assumed opponent in the election. I call that rigging.

Yeah because nobody has EVER dug up dirt on an opponent. Get outta here with that. Just another fantasy drummed up by those butthurt about the election. It's been 3 years, let it go.

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OhhhJa posted...

Also OP has gone off the deep end I think

hes been there as long as I can remember

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Trump so baed he tried to rig the election so Clinton would win and failed #orangemango

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Yellow posted...

Gerrymandering is a way to bypass direct democracy any way you want to slice it. It's controlled by either the DNC or the RNC, both just rig it in their favor as hard as possible whenever they have control.

Technically the existence of congress and the senate is a way to bypass direct democracy =p

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

hes been there as long as I can remember

That's true

Waaah I didn't get the result I want!

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wwinterj25 posted...

Waaah I didn't get the result I want!

Better get some thigh high boots and a shovel come Nov. They are gonna cry.

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Based Lizzie. Too bad she won't win.
I bet she gets like 80% of the Vote in Massachusetts.

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Judgmenl posted...

Too bad she won't win.

you dont know who will win so stfu and stop trying to be a really shitty fortune teller

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How many of you all that think the impeachment was a joke actually watched it? I mean more than 15 minutes.

He held aid from a foreign official to help influence an election. That's foreign interference in our national election. That's abuse of power. It is also all for personal gain and his personal agenda.
Did I mention all of this was proven and trump has admitted to it?
This isn't just politics. It's what some of us expected putting a business man in office.
We need to swallow our pride and think about others now. Bring back the balance and respect to this country.

Some people are really under playing this scenario, but it really opened up how breakable our government is and it is scary. We're gonna look pretty short sighted in the history books.

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Nobody on here actually watched the Impeachment. I'm probably the only one who spent any real time watching it, and I missed a lot of it because of work.

I used to think someone like Chuck Schumer was a joke (because Youtube told me so) but his closing remarks on the Impeachment trial were well spoken. The Republicans need to stop protecting their Emperor because they're afraid of losing their "traditional values".

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Judgmenl posted...

The Republicans need to stop protecting their Emperor because they're afraid of losing their "traditional values".

Especially where Trump is extremely unqualified to be representing "traditional values," what with the serial philandering, multiple marriages, bold-faced lying, and long history of borderline fraud. About the only thing he had to do to convince his base that he was the champion of their traditional values was say that he didn't approve of abortion (despite having had one or two done in the past, IIRC), and that was enough to make everyone pretend the emperor wasn't naked.

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pedro45 posted...

How many of you all that think the impeachment was a joke actually watched it? I mean more than 15 minutes.

He held aid from a foreign official to help influence an election. That's foreign interference in our national election. That's abuse of power. It is also all for personal gain and his personal agenda.
Did I mention all of this was proven and trump has admitted to it?
This isn't just politics. It's what some of us expected putting a business man in office.
We need to swallow our pride and think about others now. Bring back the balance and respect to this country.

Some people are really under playing this scenario, but it really opened up how breakable our government is and it is scary. We're gonna look pretty short sighted in the history books.

No no. We had problems that needed a businessman to solve. 'Thinking about others' is bullcrap. That's what led to this participation award snowflake mentality and now we have THAT problem to fix.

As far as getting dirt on an opponent, everyone does it. It's only an issue because the haters wanted to try attacking him again. It ended just the way it was supposed to (and expected).

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adjl posted...

Especially where Trump is extremely unqualified to be representing "traditional values," what with the serial philandering, multiple marriages, bold-faced lying, and long history of borderline fraud. About the only thing he had to do to convince his base that he was the champion of their traditional values was say that he didn't approve of abortion (despite having had one or two done in the past, IIRC), and that was enough to make everyone pretend the emperor wasn't naked.

He's a guy with a job. If you only want to elect a saint to the position then you'll be waiting a long time.

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Judgmenl posted...

Nobody on here actually watched the Impeachment. I'm probably the only one who spent any real time watching it, and I missed a lot of it because of work.

I did...definitely not all of it, but I got a few hours in, especially towards the end of certain segments. PBS covered it live pretty well for me.

DPsx7 posted...

No no. We had problems that needed a businessman to solve. 'Thinking about others' is bullcrap. That's what led to this participation award snowflake mentality and now we have THAT problem to fix.

As far as getting dirt on an opponent, everyone does it. It's only an issue because the haters wanted to try attacking him again. It ended just the way it was supposed to (and expected).

No, thinking about others led to civil rights and more legislation demanding equality. That stuff is being reversed by backwards minded people.
Maybe you aren't affected and don't see it, so you don't care, but some of us care even when it doesn't directly affect us. We all don't thrive if we all are just being greedy and looking out for ourselves.
Diversity has always led to great things.
People are always gonna try to get an edge, you're correct. There are wrong ways of doing it though. He did it wrong, pretty much admitted it and yet didn't take responsibility for it. That is not someone to follow example, or right at all. Everyone doing it is a terrible reasoning and justification.

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Judgmenl posted...

Nobody on here actually watched the Impeachment. I'm probably the only one who spent any real time watching it

omg dude why do you say stupid shit like this

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pedro45 posted...

No, thinking about others led to civil rights and more legislation demanding equality. That stuff is being reversed by backwards minded people.
Maybe you aren't affected and don't see it, so you don't care, but some of us care even when it doesn't directly affect us. We all don't thrive if we all are just being greedy and looking out for ourselves.
Diversity has always led to great things.
People are always gonna try to get an edge, you're correct. There are wrong ways of doing it though. He did it wrong, pretty much admitted it and yet didn't take responsibility for it. That is not someone to follow example, or right at all. Everyone doing it is a terrible reasoning and justification.

That stuff is long out of date. We're diverse and equal enough yet people aren't happy with that. No they demand more and more just for being different somehow, and that's why people are regretting giving them an inch. Racism isn't anywhere near the problem the media makes it to be, no social problems are. Everyone is just automatically offended because it gets them a few bucks and 15 minutes of fame. That women's thing they did was meant for a cash grab. Then karma settled in and the men are afraid of hiring or interacting with them for fear of false accusations. Oops, oh well.

Everyone is free to do and act as they please at home. Nobody cares at that point. As soon as you run out making silly demands then it causes trouble. If it doesn't affect you, why bother getting involved? Being 'woke' or a white knight is just another way of trying to buy favors for their own gain. I mind my own business and haven't been offended over anything. Even better is when someone decides they have an issue and instead of taking responsibility they blame Trump or caucasians. This isn't how things work...


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It's because people think we're good that we're not. There's still rampant racism and prejudice. People then get away with it cause others think it's not a big problem. The fact we're still discussing it proves it's still a problem.
Yes, there's a minority that complains for the wrong reason, but there's also a very silent group afraid to raise a voice. Actually, that's kinda most people, no matter who they are.
I work with a mediocre employee who is middle eastern. I hear complaints about his race, accent, his English but rarely his work ethic. It really shows people's true colors when they start complaining.
It's so commonplace you probably don't notice it.

Think about how many times you hear "she's pretty for a (race) girl)". Rarely do people even mean to say it, but it's still so engrained in us.

Label it however you want, but some of us can be selfless without being selfish. We get involved when it's necessary cause we have a heart. We don't need to get cancer or be shot to care about people who have. Empathy is the word

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No there really isn't. What's going on is people interpret things as racist to be offended, not because it's actually racist, sexist, whatever. The most mundane things are misread these days. The reason it's discussed is because the 'offended' are getting carried away and the nationalists are going too far to fight back. That's why I said people need to worry about themselves and stop dragging this out.

Yeah, but so what? A harmless comment or joke. It's not like they're thrashing the guy if he's doing good work. Why is a "she's pretty" comment deemed offensive? This is exactly my point. Finding problems where one doesn't exist. Not that long ago people were happy as they were, we need that back.

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Maybe your people were happy, but not all people.

It's offensive cause you're literally saying that the girl is only pretty for her race but not others. Have you ever dated outside your race? It's obvious when you hear it for yourself. There's a difference between "she is so hot!" and "she is so hot for an Asian girl!".

I guess the better question, could you ever open your mind to this or are you pretty set in stone everyone can walk around and do whatever as equally as you, no matter the time, the area, the clothes or whatever?

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They're making themselves miserable. And I've said this before that if you're so easily offended then you deserve it. Not everything is an attack.

That's not what it means. Perfect example of misreading for profit. Instead of taking the compliment suddenly it's not good enough unless you're #1 in the room. Once the guys learn you criticize everything, it's that attitude where you find yourself not getting attention at all. Somehow that becomes 'racist' too.

I don't think people rationalize what their behavior will lead to. It goes back and forth, on and on. It gets old. It never used to be like this until social media.

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DPsx7 posted...

Finding problems where one doesn't exist.

do you really not see the irony there?

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Citation needed.

Mead posted...

do you really not see the irony there?

You've been making up problems since the election. Trump isn't a problem. Social issues are not. Basically this has all been about ratings, what can the media hype next? It caused the pres to be a scapegoat for everyone who won't accept responsibility for their mistakes. The future is in trouble because of the snowflake mentality.

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So...I don't go on social media, nor do I stick to just one news source. How am I coming across all these made up problems that have sources and cause discussion?

You're not the world. Just cause you're fine, doesn't mean everyone else is.
If you're doing well, then appreciate it. Sounds like your life is pretty privalaged and you may take it for granted. Not everyone is that way though.

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HornedLion posted...

GOP already saying that they will expunge Trump if they take back the House.

Thats nonsense to regain power.

I heard that they are going to expunge the official record of Trump being impeached. That way he has a clean record.
That is petty and stupid, then again so is the whole impeached forever nonsense.