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LordoftheMorons
02/03/20 10:12:40 PM
#302:


https://twitter.com/rene5311/status/1224517456506576896

What a great system!

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Ashethan
02/03/20 10:13:49 PM
#303:


Corrik7 posted...
Republicans are the party of democracy. Democrats are the ones trying to rob the people of their properly elected president via congressional proceedings.

Not Democratically elected though! He lost the popular vote, and won the frankly stupid electoral college.

Unlike Nixon, of course. Who won the popular vote by a huge majority. He got like 60% of the popular vote! And he was less crooked than Trump is!

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ChaosTonyV4
02/03/20 10:15:34 PM
#304:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/rene5311/status/1224517456506576896

What a great system!

Why would they leave before the next rounds?

Related:

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LordoftheMorons
02/03/20 10:16:22 PM
#305:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Why would they leave before the next rounds?
Iunno, other shit to do and if it weren't for the miscount their votes would have been locked in?

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Reg
02/03/20 10:17:32 PM
#306:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/rene5311/status/1224517456506576896

What a great system!
Have I missed something, or does literally anybody here think that the caucus system isn't total bullshit?

(Like, yes, I agree that this is egregiously bad, but I'm pretty sure you're also super preaching to the choir here)
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LordoftheMorons
02/03/20 10:18:53 PM
#307:


Reg posted...
Have I missed something, or does literally anybody here think that the caucus system isn't total bullshit?
Nah I don't think anyone in the topic is defending them, I just thought that was a particularly egregious example of what sort of dumb stuff they can result in

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SgtSphynx
02/03/20 10:21:54 PM
#308:


https://twitter.com/MarkSalter55/status/1224530836260868097


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Corrik7
02/03/20 10:26:46 PM
#309:


Biden has to of done bad or Bernie has won for the media and Democratic party to try and wait to most of America is asleep to finally release numbers.

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LordoftheMorons
02/03/20 10:31:44 PM
#310:


I mean, it takes however long it takes to get the results in. If it's close they can't responsibly call it without most of the data.

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xp1337
02/03/20 10:32:24 PM
#311:


it took them a day last cycle

and it took them even longer for the republicans in 2012

when it's close it takes longer. you only get winners declared fast if they won clear and away and we all knew this was gonna be close

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Corrik7
02/03/20 10:34:08 PM
#312:


Funny how they keep saying 87% of the precincts were reported before 10pm in 2016 and 0% now and yinz are acting like it is normal. CNN is going off about it over and over.

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LordoftheMorons
02/03/20 10:38:08 PM
#313:


There were three candidates in 2016 who were even semi-viable. Here there are five such candidates, many hovering around the 15% threshold for viability (and thus for having to realign). It makes total sense that it's taking longer.

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xp1337
02/03/20 10:44:47 PM
#314:


giving way too much credit to o'malley there lol

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Corrik7
02/03/20 10:46:29 PM
#315:


Just reported that the turnout is similar to 2016.

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LordoftheMorons
02/03/20 10:48:20 PM
#316:


Apparently he got one state level delegate...!

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Corrik7
02/03/20 10:51:16 PM
#317:


CNN is just straight shitting on the Democratic party responsible for reporting haha. They just said a caucus leader just tweeted out his results because the app they made doesn't work and they had him on hold for over an hour to try and report his numbers.

Lol.

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Suprak the Stud
02/03/20 10:59:00 PM
#318:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Iunno, other shit to do and if it weren't for the miscount their votes would have been locked in?

After candidates become viable, they aren't supposed to become "non-viable" so a lot of people leave at that point. But then you have stuff like this happen.

Caucuses are so dumb and weird and why can't Iowa just vote like normal non-crazy people?

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Suprak the Stud
02/03/20 11:01:11 PM
#319:


Corrik7 posted...
CNN is just straight shitting on the Democratic party responsible for reporting haha. They just said a caucus leader just tweeted out his results because the app they made doesn't work and they had him on hold for over an hour to try and report his numbers.

Lol.

Yeah the people over at 538 are guessing it has something to do with some stupid smartphone app that is BRAND NEW and WE DEFINITELY TESTED IT AND AREN'T JUST WINGING IT WE SWEAR.

What a great way to start off the 2020 election cycle!

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FFDragon
02/03/20 11:01:38 PM
#320:


Because this is the one time Iowa matters in the slightest

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Corrik7
02/03/20 11:02:53 PM
#321:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Yeah the people over at 538 are guessing it has something to do with some stupid smartphone app that is BRAND NEW and WE DEFINITELY TESTED IT AND AREN'T JUST WINGING IT WE SWEAR.

What a great way to start off the 2020 election cycle!
Well, the app doesn't work cuz they can't log in. So they are supposed to phone in the results, but they are just keeping everyone on hold. Boiler room emergency meeting with campaigns to explain the issue. Buttgieg's campaign says they have 78% of the results just by having people call them in to their campaign after they were done.

MSNBC is shitting on the Democratic party there now also. As is some campaigns.

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Corrik7
02/03/20 11:03:22 PM
#322:


Telling you, Biden did bad or Bernie won. So they will dump this in the middle of the night or during the Trump acquittal.

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Suprak the Stud
02/03/20 11:07:29 PM
#323:


Never attribute to malice what can as easily be explained by incompetence.

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Corrik7
02/03/20 11:08:54 PM
#324:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Never attribute to malice what can as easily be explained by incompetence.
Never underestimate the Democrats willingness to fuck over Bernie however possible.

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CaptainOfCrush
02/03/20 11:09:51 PM
#325:


From my personal experience four years ago, the Nevada Caucasus weren't nearly this big a shitshow (still would much rather have a primary).

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xp1337
02/03/20 11:10:12 PM
#326:


If there's any justice in this world Iowa will not only be forced to drop caucuses but they will also be sent to the back of the primary calendar line.

there is no justice

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iiaattgg
02/03/20 11:10:16 PM
#327:


this is a total embarrassment!

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xp1337
02/03/20 11:12:40 PM
#328:


Also, if Buttigieg ends up winning this then Biden is the real winner no matter how pathetically he's doing.

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FFDragon
02/03/20 11:13:55 PM
#329:


https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1224541817863053313

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metroid composite
02/03/20 11:13:56 PM
#330:


Corrik7 posted...
Telling you, Biden did bad or Bernie won.
I mean, those are both likely, but for anyone following this race as the results came in, neither of these would be a surprise.

Right now on the New York Times with the numbers they do have, Sanders is in first, and Biden is in 5th behind Klobuchar.

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xp1337
02/03/20 11:14:47 PM
#331:


metroid composite posted...


Right now on the New York Times with the numbers they do have, Sanders is in first, and Biden is in 5th behind Klobuchar.
now that would be a spicy result but no way it holds

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Maniac64
02/03/20 11:19:23 PM
#332:


The local news stations are also confused and annoyed by everything.

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red13n
02/03/20 11:22:14 PM
#333:


Clearly the results are hacked and have Tulsi with like 80% of the vote.

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xp1337
02/03/20 11:22:16 PM
#334:


If you think about it, the Des Moines Register poll being cancelled because of a ridiculous sounding human error was actually the most accurate poll.

that's how you earn that a+ rating

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Corrik7
02/03/20 11:25:06 PM
#335:


Klobuchars voice sounds like she is either sick or she did a hefty amount of drugs back in the day.

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red13n
02/03/20 11:25:35 PM
#336:


Also easy take away from this: Caucuses are dumb and Iowa should get out of the stone age.

(Also we shouldn't let them go first).

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FFDragon
02/03/20 11:27:45 PM
#337:


guys

guys

we're missing the deep state reality of all this

Iowa broke this year so it reverts back to 2016

it's STILL her turn

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Ashethan
02/03/20 11:28:09 PM
#338:


Iowa Caucus results are in: With 53% of the vote, the candidate that wins all the delgates is: Warren. Bailey Warren, that is.

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xp1337
02/03/20 11:29:38 PM
#339:


FFDragon posted...
guys

guys

we're missing the deep state reality of all this

Iowa broke this year so it reverts back to 2016

it's STILL her turn
wait a second

at the heart of all this is an app right

that's app's name? Pokemon GO to the polls

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xp1337
02/03/20 11:29:57 PM
#340:


Ashethan posted...
Iowa Caucus results are in: With 53% of the vote, the candidate that wins all the delgates is: Warren. Bailey Warren, that is.
hell yes

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Corrik7
02/03/20 11:30:17 PM
#341:


FFDragon posted...
guys

guys

we're missing the deep state reality of all this

Iowa broke this year so it reverts back to 2016

it's STILL her turn
System did run smoother when Hillary was the one being propped up.

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Suprak the Stud
02/03/20 11:34:26 PM
#342:


Maniac64 posted...
The local news stations are also confused and annoyed by everything.

All these lazy reporters are because they want to go home and are annoyed they have to stay late to do their job. Its going to be non-stop complaining tomorrow about this.

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LordoftheMorons
02/03/20 11:40:06 PM
#343:


Iowa Democratic Party statement:

https://twitter.com/DavidWright_7/status/1224550364256575488

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metroid composite
02/03/20 11:41:17 PM
#344:


xp1337 posted...
now that would be a spicy result but no way it holds
I'm not so sure.

Bernie in first is not shocking--he was leading in polls as people's first choice (although it's definitely not guaranteed; Elizabeth Warren was on top for second place polling, and for 1st+2nd place choices).

Early anecdotal results are definitely pointing to Warren and Buttigeig doing well, they're picking up a lot of 2nd choice voters from people whose candidate was declared non-viable.

Early results point to Biden seriously underperforming, not winning groups he should like old people who spend winter in Florida.

So at this point I'd be really surprised if Biden finished above 4th.

5th would be a shocker sure, but Klobuchar has been surging in Iowa polling, she's the senator from the state literally next door (Minnesota is directly north of Iowa) and constantly talks about how she's from the midwest. Like...she's been polling in the 11%-15% range in Iowa, which is right about where she is in the results right now (13% in first round, 11% after people adjust for non-viable candidates). She's on track for a double digit finish.

Would still be a shocker if Biden was barely double digits.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/03/20 11:44:58 PM
#345:


FFDragon posted...
guys

guys

we're missing the deep state reality of all this

Iowa broke this year so it reverts back to 2016

it's STILL her turn

oh shit

they say they don't know who owns the app

it's her

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Suprak the Stud
02/03/20 11:45:11 PM
#346:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Iowa Democratic Party statement:

https://twitter.com/DavidWright_7/status/1224550364256575488

oh boy

Buckle in everyone.

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xp1337
02/03/20 11:49:27 PM
#347:


metroid composite posted...
I'm not so sure
It's 5th specifically that I'm doubting! 4th would make sense. My prediction earlier in the topic put him in 3rd (and I only didn't put him 4th because I wanted to believe in Buttigieg's drop) and I think that may still be in play if like... one of the anecdotes folds but yeah it's specifically Biden losing to Klobuchar that I think would be a spicy result.

That's like the one result for Biden where I'm not sure a Buttigieg win would net in his favor. I mean, odds are it still probably does but it'd give me some real pause.

But if you get Sanders at #1 and Biden at #5 then oh boy. Though really I think Iowa's impact was going to be weakened by the Impeachment Trial wrapping up on Wednesday to eat up the news cycle and this whole disaster isn't helping either.

Sanders (or Warren for argument's sake) had to win Iowa (and honestly probably sweep the first 3) anyway but if you couple it with an atrocious Biden result things start to get a bit interesting.

LordoftheMorons posted...
Iowa Democratic Party statement:
they're giving the florida democratic party a run for sheer incompetence

need to treat this like a failed state and send like UN and DNC observers next time

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LordoftheMorons
02/03/20 11:49:43 PM
#348:


https://twitter.com/Timodc/status/1224554353207328768

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Not_an_Owl
02/03/20 11:50:32 PM
#349:


Not related to Iowa specifically, but "fun":

https://twitter.com/andizeisler/status/1224428177641984001

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FFDragon
02/04/20 12:07:18 AM
#350:


Real talk, if there was ONE TIME for a "Trump clowns the Dems on Twitter" this is it.

I'm actually a little let down.

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FFDragon
02/04/20 12:09:33 AM
#351:


Also

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1224558756354306048

lmao what a shitshow

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