Poll of the Day > Handcuffed man shot and killed inside Maryland police cruiser

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/handcuffed-man-shot-killed-inside-maryland-police-cruiser-n1124486

The suspect was buckled into the front passenger seat of the vehicle

which Cotterman said is normal for Prince George's County police. The officer then got into the driver's seat.

The man was shot multiple times by the officer's service weapon, the police spokeswoman said.

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I kind of want to know if I know the person. Not only am I from Maryland, but I lived in Bowie, which is in Prince Georges County...
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That is just a straight up execution.

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

That is just a straight up execution.

yeah its almost like they let the officers write the article cause the headline should really be

Maryland cop murders defenseless man

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Dude was apparently under the influence of pcp. I'm sure he was perfectly compliant and docile.

why is it normal for a handcuffed suspect to be in the front seat of a cruiser

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dedbus posted...

Dude was apparently under the influence of pcp. I'm sure he was perfectly compliant and docile.

And that's worth an execution?

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Bulbasaur posted...

why is it normal for a handcuffed suspect to be in the front seat of a cruiser

Well, if he was in the back seat with the physical divider between him and the cop, the cop would have a harder time claiming he "feared for his life" and was thus morally obligated to shoot him.
You're thinking about this through the lens of normal logical and rational thought. You need to look at things from the point of view of the cop.

dedbus posted...

Dude was apparently under the influence of pcp. I'm sure he was perfectly compliant and docile.

arms handcuffed behind his back, buckled into the seat

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Mead posted...

arms handcuffed behind his back, buckled into the seat

Sidereal: Is a cop justified in shooting someone, I presume FROM the drivers seat, if their passenger starts rabidly biting at them

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Didn't you get the memo? A badge to serve and protect doubles as a free pass to murder and terrorize.

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Lokarin posted...

Sidereal: Is a cop justified in shooting someone, I presume FROM the drivers seat, if their passenger starts rabidly biting at them

depends on whether they are rabid zombie style bites, or if its more of a sexy thing

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how are the bootlickers gonna justify this one

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TheWitchMorgana posted...

how are the bootlickers gonna justify this one

Like this, apparently:

dedbus posted...

Dude was apparently under the influence of pcp. I'm sure he was perfectly compliant and docile.

Mead posted...

depends on whether they are rabid zombie style bites, or if its more of a sexy thing

I was assuming zombie...
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The officer feared for his life obviously.

HES COMIN RIGHT FOR ME

quick, sprinkle some crack on him

oh wait, this time it's pcp

Lokarin posted...

Sidereal: Is a cop justified in shooting someone, I presume FROM the drivers seat, if their passenger starts rabidly biting at them

Potentially (though human bites generally aren't lethal enough to jump straight to using lethal force to prevent them), but the passenger in question really shouldn't be in a position where biting the cop is an option.

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

That is just a straight up execution.

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If the dude was on PCP, then that can absolutely warrant lethal force being used, PCP is fuckin' crazy.

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Bulbasaur posted...

If the dude was on PCP, then that can absolutely warrant lethal force being used, PCP is fuckin' crazy.

cop was able to handcuff the guy and buckle him into the car

pcp might make a person crazy but its not a valid reason to just execute them

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If the dude was on PCP, he shouldn't have been in the front seat.

In fact, he shouldn't have been in the front seat regardless.
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Mead posted...

cop was able to handcuff the guy and buckle him into the car

pcp might make a person crazy but its not a valid reason to just execute them. In that position how much of a threat could he have really been? Even amped up on pcp

try and bite off your finger

now try and bite into a carrot

now imagine that the pcp makes the guy think he's biting into a carrot

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Where was the guy shot FROM?

Was it from the driver's seat or was it from outside the car?

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Bulbasaur posted...

try and bite off your finger

now try and bite into a carrot

now imagine that the pcp makes the guy think he's biting into a carrot

why was the cop even feeding the suspect carrots in the first place

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Yeah police are great

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There's no way to really defend this. Buckled up and cuffed behind his back. Even if he's trying to bite the officer, the officer should've been easily able to exit out his door and have the guy locked in there.

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just wow

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFUvmZWf4hI

Mead posted...

why was the cop even feeding the suspect carrots in the first place

So he wouldn't get hungry on the way to jail...
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One less pcp user is hard to get upset about.

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That's disturbing, wolfy. Drug abuse is an addiction, not a criminal act worth rendering a death sentence. And even then, we have laws in place that limit the ability of law enforcement personnel to render such judgment at their discretion.

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This is why we need more body cams.

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well until bodycams are a mandatory thing, events like this one will always be speculation

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RCtheWSBC posted...

That's disturbing, wolfy. Drug abuse is an addiction, not a criminal act worth rendering a death sentence. And even then, we have laws in place that limit the ability of law enforcement personnel to render such judgment at their discretion.

Shrug, I consider killing someone more humane then sending them to prison personally. I don't put my own personal opinions on others though. Doesn't change how I feel.

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wolfy42 posted...

Shrug, I consider killing someone more humane then sending them to prison personally.

What a...truly odd sense of morality. Fucking gross.

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Hello, Wendys?

Yes I would like a Double quarter pounder of attention with a side of edge and one frostee please

"When officers located the driver, they smelled PCP"

So the only evidence that the guy was on PCP was that they claimed they smelled it?

Riiiiiight...

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Just like how cops are constantly smelling marijuana to justify a vehicle search

with noses like that why do they even need drug sniffing dogs

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RCtheWSBC posted...

What a...truly odd sense of morality. Fucking gross.

I consider it gross to lock people up and force them to exist in a little cell with nothing or almost nothing to do for long periods of time, especially people who have done almost nothing wrong, or just used drugs etc.

Killing someone isn't a good thing of course, I'm not advocating it. But prison is like torture, which I consider worse then killing (quickly).

If given a choice personally between 1 year in jail/prison, or death, I would take death every time, and would have throughout my entire life.

While I realize not everyone feels that way, and therefore I don't go around killing people lol, that does not affect how I feel about a situation where a person either was going to jail for a long period of time, or was killed.

I despise the survival instinct that causes humans (and animals for that matter) to live even when life is torturous at that point. Life should be a positive experience, and if your going to prevent someone from having a positive life (or possibility of it) for any significant length of time, the option should be given to opt out instead.

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PG Police fuckin suuuuuuuck. This ain't nothing new.

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America_Dude posted...

Im enjoying how everyone is completely ignoring that he was immediately taken off duty and within 24 hours arrested on every charge possible. This guy is a scum bag but theyre not protecting him in the slightest.

At the time I read the article, he was only placed on administrative leave. They didn't even name the officer or the victim.

It's since been updated to include both:

Prince George's County Police Chief Hank Stawinski said during a news conference that he asked his special investigations response team to file multiple charges, including a second-degree murder count, against Cpl. Michael Owen, Jr., a 10-year veteran of the force.

Owen was also charged with voluntary and involuntary manslaughter, first-degree assault and use of a firearm in the commission of a crime of violence, according to a news release. He was arrested on Tuesday, department spokeswoman Jennifer Donelan said. The victim was identified as William Howard Green, 43, of Washington, D.C.

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America_Dude posted...

Im enjoying how everyone is completely ignoring that he was immediately taken off duty and within 24 hours arrested on every charge possible. This guy is a scum bag but theyre not protecting him in the slightest.

and people in the topic are STILL defending him lmao

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wolfy42 posted...

I consider it gross to lock people up and force them to exist in a little cell with nothing or almost nothing to do for long periods of time, especially people who have done almost nothing wrong, or just used drugs etc.

Killing someone isn't a good thing of course, I'm not advocating it. But prison is like torture, which I consider worse then killing (quickly).

If given a choice personally between 1 year in jail/prison, or death, I would take death every time, and would have throughout my entire life.

While I realize not everyone feels that way, and therefore I don't go around killing people lol, that does not affect how I feel about a situation where a person either was going to jail for a long period of time, or was killed.

I despise the survival instinct that causes humans (and animals for that matter) to live even when life is torturous at that point. Life should be a positive experience, and if your going to prevent someone from having a positive life (or possibility of it) for any significant length of time, the option should be given to opt out instead.

Honestly prison should be rehabilitation instead of torture.

Imagine if we put them in a military style boot camp and gave them education, pride, purpose, talents, trained them to be useful for society.

Instead we torture them into emotionless horrors then release them back into the public.

"There are no circumstances under which this outcome is acceptable, Stawinski said. You have my assurance that all our methods and practices will be examined as this investigation proceeds.

Always putting civilians in the backseat, behind the safety divider would be a good fucking place to start. Regardless of why they're in the vehicle. Criminals or someone just being given a ride to the nearest gas station. They should all be in the back and separated from the officer.

Putting a detainee, especially someone that you suspect to be under the influence of something like PCP, is just asking for trouble. But maybe that was this officer's goal?


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wolfy42 posted...

I consider it gross to lock people up and force them to exist in a little cell with nothing or almost nothing to do for long periods of time, especially people who have done almost nothing wrong, or just used drugs etc.

Killing someone isn't a good thing of course, I'm not advocating it. But prison is like torture, which I consider worse then killing (quickly).

If given a choice personally between 1 year in jail/prison, or death, I would take death every time, and would have throughout my entire life.

While I realize not everyone feels that way, and therefore I don't go around killing people lol, that does not affect how I feel about a situation where a person either was going to jail for a long period of time, or was killed.

I despise the survival instinct that causes humans (and animals for that matter) to live even when life is torturous at that point. Life should be a positive experience, and if your going to prevent someone from having a positive life (or possibility of it) for any significant length of time, the option should be given to opt out instead.

*tags user as "absolute nutbar"*

America_Dude posted...

Im enjoying how everyone is completely ignoring that he was immediately taken off duty and within 24 hours arrested on every charge possible. This guy is a scum bag but theyre not protecting him in the slightest.

We'll have to see if he's actually convicted, and what kind of sentence he gets.
Plenty of criminal shootings by cops seem (and should be) slam dunk cases, only to mysteriously fail to convict.

I do think it's getting slowly better though. This dude might actually get convicted. 5 years ago, I'd find it more likely he wouldn't be.

America_Dude posted...

The fact the police basically tossed him to the wolves is a good thing (as you said, theyre getting better.)

well see what the DA says at the end of this

everyone has the right to defend themselves against harm but there are way to many cases of officers fearing for their life and just killing people who often arent even armed

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hard to feel bad for police, they lock up innocent ppl and destroy lives and abuse power