Board 8 > Eff 2019 Mafia: Topic 8 - And I Oop

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Grumpy cat died in 2019. Interesting. Didn't realize that.

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Corrik7 posted...

Why exactly is the most popular meme of 2019 not a positive thing and why would you assume sultan is town based on the result.

I'm 99% sure Grumpy Cat died last year

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So let's town clear sultan for the result and town clear Mzero for that now unless they are scum together and married themselves not at Mylo which is dumb.

So we got possible scum as Han, Ben, Puns, Sbell, Death (unlikely).

Han and Ben can't be scum together and one is absolutely scum.

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MI cannot be scum but can be Indy.

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If Greta Thunberg is positive, wouldn't impeached trump be too lol

No I get that impeached trump is a negative thing for Trump in particular, so it's different.


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benjamin3740 posted...

If Greta Thunberg is positive, wouldn't impeached trump be too lol

No I get that impeached trump is a negative thing for Trump in particular, so it's different.

He wasn't scanned that. He sayd he is that off a safe list obviously.

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If he is scum.

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We know a safe list exists cuz blade claimed off of it and the negative was that they flamed out early in the playoffs.

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So the last 3 votes on scare is sultan HB and Chris. All town. And Mzero is town also.

The question is does 3 scum park on blade day 2. With Han/Ben, Puns, and Scare.

Or is it more likely Sbell and Blade on scare and Han/Ben and Scare on Blade.

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There wouldn't be much incentive to pile on those lunches but moreso be looking for alternative lunch ideas without leading them yourself

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I'm like 99% sure Sbell IS scum now based off process of elimination. And while we do need to resolve the investigation trifecta, my vote will probably end up there. We just have Mzero scan me, and Han target me.

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Puns unvotes Ben to vote blade. This is unnecessary unless he is scum with Ben and Ben is roleblocker. Nothing else satisfies that move realistically. It puts scum-scum lynch as top 2.

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benjamin3740 posted...

I'm like 99% sure Sbell IS scum now based off process of elimination. And while we do need to resolve the investigation trifecta, my vote will probably end up there. We just have Mzero scan me, and Han target me.

Doesn't work. Kill me roleblock mzero you are both at step 1 again.

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Sbell on Scare because Scare looked so bad in his reaction to the Red lynch that Blade decided he would go into day 2 bussing Red. I think Sbell did the same. They voted Scare first thing day 2 and didn't move all day. Blade being the first to plant himself on Scare and go hard on him proves that Scare was the buss target, not Blade.

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Puns could have voted Han there and not Blade after unvoting Ben.


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And Sbell's reaction to me calling out him and Blade on that day 3 was to say "you really think that all of the scum team bussed Scare?"

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Corrik7 posted...

Doesn't work. Kill me roleblock mzero you are both at step 1 again.

I guess we would at least prove if Han can actually continously visit someone each night.

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Obellisk posted...

This just feels wrong.

And there it is with blade and scare scum-scum end of day 2. Doesn't do anything with it. Let's someone else try and go with it.

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Sultan said page 10 of topic 5 he died in 2019 also. Yeah, he is confirmed town. Flavor confirmed.

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It's most likely Sbell and Han and MI is Indy.

Order I'd Lynch is.

Sbell >>>>>> Han> Ben >>>>>>>> Puns >>>>> Death.

Mzero and Sultan are town. MI is not scum.

But I am not done yet.

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Would explain why MI didn't unvote the cop either.

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benjamin3740 posted...

The others that were on Scare later - HB, Sultan, and Chris, were and still are all my top 3 town anyway. So they're solid.

But I am pretty positive if you blast Blade, Mzero, Sbell, and Han for reasons of being caught in a fake claim, you win.

That's a bit too accurate to what I am saying right now... That's eerie...

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It still holds true for me now too

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Puns is pretty likely town.

##vote: Sbell

We have to be careful of MI. If no one accounts for that save tonight, MI has to considered as Indy with possibly actually still 4 votes to take control of the lynch to win alone.

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##Vote: Sbell

This is the way

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If sbell flips roleblocker, everyone targets Ben tonight and we find out who the list is.

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If Han is scum, Sbell won't flip poisoner.

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Yeah it'll be tough to convince me to lynch anyone not named sbell today

Still gonna sleep on it though

Corrik7 posted...

Just realized this was a scum-scum lynch.

.......
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

After the way he begged to not have a mass claim yesterday, yes?

Okay first of all. You admitted yourself to not wanting the same thing!
Secondly, I find this highly questionable when you already claimed to think I was town last day.
This is such a convenient waste of a scan.
Thirdly, I have no idea why this time scum decided not to RB Han.

But since Corrik claims to be blocked as a doc, the lack of a nightkill either means that a lying BP exists (and scum already knows who, so it is pointless for town to lie about it)
Or Corrik is lying, but that seems entirely impossible and his targets were good ones.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Chris has died!

and...

Lea has died!

turbopuns3 posted...

Oh ok then

turbopuns3 posted...

First person to vote me today is scum

Boom gottem outplayed

Obellisk posted...

Also, watch me claim scum right now. (apparently)

vote: puns

Lmao

That was the worst same time claim.

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Thinking. Why give scum only a godfather when town also has a thief?
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I'll want to iso Sbell today. I don't hate the idea of lynching him but right now it's more Poe than off of actions.

Unlike Ben.

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And no Dont even suggest that scum has a thiefproof character
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Sbell feels like a POEtrap. But the logic is still sound.
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TotallyNotMI posted...

That was the worst same time claim.

Why it gave information and infact confirmed that Miz was a theif

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Death seems to be talking from having more information than he is letting on position many times.

htaeD posted...

Why give scum only a godfather when town also has a thief?

How do you know what scum has?

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Sultan is confirmed. Mzero isn't confirmed btw. I need to make sure I adjust that accordingly.

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Like, yesterday, I asked death right off the bat why he assumed MI had to of been saved. He said it like there was not a single other option. Like, yeah, I did, and yeah the reason why I did was because it was a tad more obvious of a choice there (if they decided not to hunt for a doctor). But, you seemed like you alrdy knew for certain that was the NK / doc save also.

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It was also weird how death said ben wasn't targeted so MI must have been the kill. As if there was any reason for scum to kill ben

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Corrik7 posted...

Death seems to be talking from having more information than he is letting on position many times.

How do you know what scum has?

I dont.
Not for sure
but 2 scum already flipped, and there is also an extra killer out there (poisoner most likely) and almost certainly a roleblocker.
And if you arent lying, there is also an independent somewhere.
I dont see how scum has room for a thiefproof role.

That said, sometimes scum just gets a flavor that kinda allows them to avoid being found out by thieves, so now I am back to doubting my own doubt.

Still I dont think any overpowered scumteam would allow for town to have cop/psychic/hansrole AND a thief. But I see most would agree on that.
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If Mzero is legit though then death is confirmed to be Hearthstone related. And Hearthstone had a LOT of bad PR in 2019. No way they would be considered a good thing.

Only way I see death as scum is if Mzero is his teammate.

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Why it gave information and infact confirmed that Miz was a theif

Neither of you claimed on time and MZero could have seen your claim and then typed what he stole.

Unlikely but possible.

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Corrik7 posted...

Like, yesterday, I asked death right off the bat why he assumed MI had to of been saved. He said it like there was not a single other option. Like, yeah, I did, and yeah the reason why I did was because it was a tad more obvious of a choice there (if they decided not to hunt for a doctor). But, you seemed like you alrdy knew for certain that was the NK / doc save also.

You are really shortselling the answer I did give you there, Corrik.
Allow me to explain it again.
The odds of MI being the NK were so much higher than both the protection and scum somehow managing to blindly target the same player.
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MZero11 posted...

It was also weird how death said ben wasn't targeted so MI must have been the kill. As if there was any reason for scum to kill ben

Did I say that?
Well I disagree with myself now then.

Actually
How did scum know to roleblock Corrik?
(maybe it was because of how Corrik reacted to me yesterday, in which case I apologize for that I guess)
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I feel if scum found out that Corrik was the doc, they would just shoot him.
But if they didnt know, they'd risk a lot by not blocking Han anymore.
There is also the question of who they shot last night.
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TotallyNotMI posted...

Neither of you claimed on time and MZero could have seen your claim and then typed what he stole.

Unlikely but possible.

In 11 seconds?
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For some reason I thought it was 24 seconds.

Still possible if he was spamming refresh to see the claim. Not easy, not likely though.

Just annoying that neither of them hit the right time

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Honestly Mzero's plan went to hell the minute he decided to reveal his role ahead of time.

He should have just said he wanted to sametime with the last person who had not yet claimed.

But ehh, I still think Sultan is town.
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