Poll of the Day > The president has been impeached.

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First article passed.

Good.

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Good, I guess? Not like it matters since he won't be removed by the senate anyway. All of this is just a massive waste of time.

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And this means literally nothing at all, as he gets to keep his job.

And with how fucking stupid the entire world is in 2019, and presumably 2020, he's going to be reelected to continue his bullshit for another 4 years.

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Tulsi's the one who voted Present.
What a fucking idiot. That doesn't get you any street cred.

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madadude posted...

Good, I guess? Not like it matters since he won't be removed by the senate anyway. All of this is just a massive waste of time.

It's not. We can't let people like trump and his supporters think they can have their way.

We seriously need to stop enabling bad behavior.

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Judgmenl posted...

Tulsi's the one who voted Present.
What a fucking idiot. That doesn't get you any street cred.

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Both articles passed.

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And Article 2 has passed as well.
Double Impeachment on you.

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So was he actually impeached or not? Jesus

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Yes, but the Senate needs to Indict which isn't going to happen.


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madadude posted...

Good, I guess? Not like it matters since he won't be removed by the senate anyway. All of this is just a massive waste of time.

Well, now he can't be pardoned for these offenses.

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JoanOfArcade posted...

So was he actually impeached or not? Jesus

like the title says. yes.

madadude posted...

Good, I guess? Not like it matters since he won't be removed by the senate anyway. All of this is just a massive waste of time.

congress has a job to do, they took an oath

it would set a terrible precedent for a coequal branch of government to simply ignore abuse of power and not perform their oversight responsibilities simply because the opposing party controls the senate

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Mead posted...

congress has a job to do, they took an oath

it would set a terrible precedent for a coequal branch of government to simply ignore abuse of power and not perform their oversight responsibilities simply because the opposing party controls the senate

True. I guess I meant more how it has consumed the media as well as just Congress's time, but you are right. Maybe I'm being cynical, but to me this all just feels like it is helping Trump in the end.

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JoanOfArcade posted...

So was he actually impeached or not? Jesus

Yes, he is impeached like Nixon and Clinton. But those two resigned before the conviction vote.

Trump won't resign, because he knows Republican senators will save him no matter what. Of course that means he can't be pardoned in the future, so that's a risk he took.

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Marcster1994 posted...

Yes, he is impeached like Nixon and Clinton. But those two resigned before the conviction vote.

Trump won't resign, because he knows Republican senators will save him no matter what. Of course that means he can't be pardoned in the future, so that's a risk he took.

Wrong. He was impeached like Johnson and Clinton. Neither was convicted. Nixon resigned before he was impeached. Clinton served a full two terms.

Marcster1994 posted...

Yes, he is impeached like Nixon and Clinton. But those two resigned before the conviction vote.

Trump won't resign, because he knows Republican senators will save him no matter what. Of course that means he can't be pardoned in the future, so that's a risk he took.

Okay so if the Senate says nah then he's still president?

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Phantom_Nook posted...

https://mobile.twitter.com/numbersmuncher/status/1207387098136940556?s=21

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JoanOfArcade posted...

Okay so if the Senate says nah then he's still president?

yes

the senate has to hold a trial but there arent really any rules or accountability regarding that

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SunWuKung420 posted...

It's not. We can't let people like trump and his supporters think they can have their way.

We seriously need to stop enabling bad behavior.

Still under the delusion you're not the bad people? This is a sad fact. I want Trump to win more than ever just so you all can look like hypocrites for not leaving the first time.

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He should resign but he won't.

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https://youtu.be/YDqgJye7hyc

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Good.

It means he wins in a landslide next year

TheWorstPoster posted...

Good.

It means he wins in a landslide next year

I hope they pass a law that says you cant vote if you dont work.

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GanonsSpirit posted...

Well, now he can't be pardoned for these offenses.

Uhm... yes, he can.

Impeachment is not a judicial exercise, it's a political one; as such, pardoning and impeachment are totally unrelated.

Some future president (or possibly Trump himself, although the ability to pardon one's own crimes is legally untested and probably unconstitutional) could pardon Trump and it would prevent anyone from charging him and trying him for his crimes after he is no longer president, even if he is impeached and removed. That's essentially what happened to Nixon, though he quit before he could be impeached.

However, by the same token, if Trump were to issue himself a preliminary pardon and it somehow held up in court, it would not save him from impeachment or trial-by-senate, as the constitution explicitly states that the president's pardons cannot be used to override impeachment proceedings.

For the same reason, impeachment does not trigger double jeopardy. Whether Trump is ultimately removed or not, it doesn't prevent him from being charged criminally in the future (nor does it prevent Democrats from just impeaching him again for the same crimes, although that would be a fairly stupid move unless some really damning evidence surfaced).

TheWorstPoster posted...

Good.

It means he wins in a landslide next year

Not sure if you've been following the polling, but roughly 50% of the population supports impeachment and removal versus 42% opposed.

I doubt this will impact Trump's election chances - positively or negatively - at all. His approval rating has barely moved, up or down, since this all started.

Which is kind of depressing, to be honest...

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He should resign. What's gonna happen is the Senate is going to have kangaroo court and acquit him cus they're cowards


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PK_Spam posted...

I hope they pass a law that says you cant vote if you dont work.

Goody. That means that all illegal aliens and dead people won't vote

PK_Spam posted...

I hope they pass a law that says you cant vote if you dont work.

If they do that counts out all the dems.

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TheWorstPoster posted...

Goody. That means that all illegal aliens and dead people won't vote

Oh yeah? Youre going on about how muh ill-eagles rigging muh erections?

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TheWorstPoster posted...

Goody. That means that all illegal aliens and dead people won't vote

Immigrants, legal or illegal, work more than you do.
DPsx7 posted...

If they do that counts out all the dems.

Oh boy.

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This isn't passing the Senate, sadly, which means the president can commit crimes but it doesn't matter as his team has more Senate seats. There's no question the president abused his power and broke laws(or else Mick Mulvaney lied to us all when he said to get ove4 the fact it happened) but the Republicans don't care.

argonautweakend posted...

This isn't passing the Senate

likely

but time will tell

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I doubt it. Not a single republican voted yes today but time will tell, yes.

I've seen what fox news has been saying. Well not tonight but overall during this Ukraine thing. All you ever hear is witch hunt, waste of time, nothingburger, etc.

If thats the most popular and mainstream news source in America id be shocked if public support gets much higher than 50 %

To me this is still good overall to show the president did in fact commit crimes and have it on the record. However i feel like this isn't going to change his popularity level much. It certainly isn't going to boost it but if you are already a fan i don't see that change.

Will be interesting to see if Mitt Romney votes for Impeachment. I'd like to see him run as President again. Any moderate Republican is better than this dumpster fire.

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argonautweakend posted...

I've seen what fox news has been saying.

then I guess youve seen the Fox News polls that show that more than 50% of voters now want trump removed from office

if republicans want to let their entire party go down with the ship, I say let them, but voters are paying attention

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pointless lib shit, wake me up when we pass anything that actually helps lower class people

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OniRonin posted...

pointless lib shit, wake me up when we pass anything that actually helps lower class people

yeah its so pointless to set the precedent of not letting the president bribe foreign governments to interfere in our election. so pointless. @OniRonin

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OniRonin posted...

pointless lib shit, wake me up when we pass anything that actually helps lower class people

https://twitter.com/senwhitehouse/status/1207312222441136128

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

yeah its so pointless to set the precedent of not letting the president bribe foreign governments to interfere in our election. so pointless. @OniRonin

Yeah I'm still waiting on Hillary to be indicted for her russian dossier which is actually documented hard evidence of someone bribing a foreign government to sway an election

OniRonin posted...

pointless lib shit, wake me up when we pass anything that actually helps lower class people

Vladimir Putin is that you

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DPsx7 posted...

If they do that counts out all the dems.

Yeah. Ok, buddy. Good thing youre already use to being wrong...
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PK_Spam posted...

I hope they pass a law that says you cant vote if you dont work.

Lmao. Brutal.

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darkknight109 posted...

Impeachment is not a judicial exercise, it's a political one; as such, pardoning and impeachment are totally unrelated.

Sure, except for the part of the Constitution that grants the president's ability to pardon, which says the president "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment"

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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Lmao. Brutal.

The whole point of democracy is so that the weakest have as much power as the strongest.

I mean, if people could just lobby and buy votes that would mean the country would be a meritocracy, rewarding those who do better... and that's simply anti-democratic!

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Lokarin posted...

The whole point of democracy is so that the weakest have as much power as the strongest.

I mean, if people could just lobby and buy votes that would mean the country would be a meritocracy, rewarding those who do better... and that's simply anti-democratic!

Weak implies hes put in some effort. Hes never had a job an never plans on it. His poor mom is constantly stressed.

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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Weak implies hes put in some effort. Hes never had a job an never plans on it. His poor mom is constantly stressed.

That's sad... maybe I should comfort his mom

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Lokarin posted...

That's sad... maybe I should comfort his mom

Poor woman needs it. Youd be generous.

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OhhhJa posted...

Yeah I'm still waiting on Hillary to be indicted for her russian dossier which is actually documented hard evidence of someone bribing a foreign government to sway an election

she isnt president and that doesnt magically undo trump breaking the law lol

damn bro youre obsessed with Hilary and trump. Its bizarre.

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