LogFAQs > #931776705

LurkerFAQs, Active DB, DB1, DB2, DB3, DB4, Database 5 ( 01.01.2019-12.31.2019 ), DB6, DB7, DB8, DB9, DB10, DB11, DB12, Clear

Topic List	Page List: 1
Topic	The president has been impeached.
darkknight109 12/18/19 9:30:08 PM #27:	GanonsSpirit posted... Well, now he can't be pardoned for these offenses. Uhm... yes, he can. Impeachment is not a judicial exercise, it's a political one; as such, pardoning and impeachment are totally unrelated. Some future president (or possibly Trump himself, although the ability to pardon one's own crimes is legally untested and probably unconstitutional) could pardon Trump and it would prevent anyone from charging him and trying him for his crimes after he is no longer president, even if he is impeached and removed. That's essentially what happened to Nixon, though he quit before he could be impeached. However, by the same token, if Trump were to issue himself a preliminary pardon and it somehow held up in court, it would not save him from impeachment or trial-by-senate, as the constitution explicitly states that the president's pardons cannot be used to override impeachment proceedings. For the same reason, impeachment does not trigger double jeopardy. Whether Trump is ultimately removed or not, it doesn't prevent him from being charged criminally in the future (nor does it prevent Democrats from just impeaching him again for the same crimes, although that would be a fairly stupid move unless some really damning evidence surfaced). TheWorstPoster posted... Good. It means he wins in a landslide next year Not sure if you've been following the polling, but roughly 50% of the population supports impeachment and removal versus 42% opposed. I doubt this will impact Trump's election chances - positively or negatively - at all. His approval rating has barely moved, up or down, since this all started. Which is kind of depressing, to be honest... --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:931776705] in The presid... [t:78265689]...</cite> <quote>GanonsSpirit posted... </cite> <quote>Well, now he can't be pardoned for these offenses.</quote>Uhm... yes, he can. Impeachment is not a judicial exercise, it's a political one; as such, pardoning and impeachment are totally unrelated. Some future president (or possibly Trump himself, although the ability to pardon one's own crimes is legally untested and probably unconstitutional) could pardon Trump and it would prevent anyone from charging him and trying him for his crimes after he is no longer president, even if he is impeached and removed. That's essentially what happened to Nixon, though he quit before he could be impeached. However, by the same token, if Trump were to issue himself a preliminary pardon and it somehow held up in court, it would not save him from impeachment or trial-by-senate, as the constitution explicitly states that the president's pardons cannot be used to override impeachment proceedings. For the same reason, impeachment does not trigger double jeopardy. Whether Trump is ultimately removed or not, it doesn't prevent him from being charged criminally in the future (nor does it prevent Democrats from just impeaching him again for the same crimes, although that would be a fairly stupid move unless some really damning evidence surfaced). TheWorstPoster posted... </cite> <quote>Good. It means he wins in a landslide next year</quote>Not sure if you've been following the polling, but roughly 50% of the population supports impeachment and removal versus 42% opposed. I doubt this will impact Trump's election chances - positively or negatively - at all. His approval rating has barely moved, up or down, since this all started. Which is kind of depressing, to be honest... --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1