Poll of the Day > Hot Take: The original Megaman sucks

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Lokarin
12/17/19 11:11:12 PM
#1:


Megaman 2 is what really got everything together, Megaman 3 perfected it and Megaman 4 slammed it!

5678 are whatever

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DeathMagnetic80
12/17/19 11:13:03 PM
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I wouldn't say it sucks, but Megaman 2 took everything that worked for the original game and made it better.
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CTLM
12/17/19 11:24:11 PM
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It wasn't great but it was fine for the time. I agree on the parts 2 and 3 as well, as 3 is my all time favorite of the series
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Mead
12/17/19 11:51:11 PM
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Yeah the original megaman is not great, I think a lot of people actually hold that opinion

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DevilSummoner1
12/17/19 11:55:26 PM
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mega man 1 hasn't aged well

like at all

it's pretty hard to play these days

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Metalsonic66
12/18/19 12:03:09 AM
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Agreed. 3 and 9 are my personal favorites. Haven't played 11 yet

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Yellow
12/18/19 12:03:52 AM
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I haven't beat any of them. I just get frustrated and give up after one boss.

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fishy071
12/18/19 12:08:42 AM
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I remember playing the first Mega Man game on the NES last century. I think I played up to Mega Man 4 before we got the SNES. They all seemed good to me.

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DPsx7
12/18/19 12:22:56 AM
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I'll agree. 1 is a pain in the ass. I'd give 2 the title of best but 3 and 4 were also great. Then a new winner came around with X 1-3.

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Sahuagin
12/18/19 12:51:57 AM
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played through 1-3 recently and was pretty disillusioned by them... they barely felt like games. 2 was the better of them, but... something about them. they didn't feel like games. the actual gameplay is almost non-existent and really all it boils down to is whether you can survive an annoying gauntlet of annoying enemies. parts of 3 were especially like that near the end, with really long sections that you had to barely get hit at all in since there's almost no health. very unenjoyable "gameplay" if that can even be called gameplay.

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Zareth
12/18/19 12:57:35 AM
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This isn't a hot take really. Pretty much everyone knows it didn't really get good til 2.

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Yellow
12/18/19 1:01:00 AM
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I will force myself to beat a Megaman game because of this topic.

That's what I like to do in my free time, get angry at a kaizo game from the 80s.

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helIy
12/18/19 1:02:08 AM
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However, Megaman X is the best Megaman X title.

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Lokarin
12/18/19 11:38:17 AM
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helIy posted...
However, Megaman X is the best Megaman X title.

X is good, but I really enjoy the flow of X2 the best... they're both pretty up there

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darcandkharg31
12/18/19 11:46:46 AM
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Lokarin posted...
X is good, but I really enjoy the flow of X2 the best... they're both pretty up there
Yeah, I loved X but I feel X2 even more.

Hmmm, maybe I should the X trilogy replay.

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colinhorton
12/18/19 12:55:38 PM
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Mead posted...
Yeah the original megaman is not great, I think a lot of people actually hold that opinion

The GameCube version on Anniversary Collection is better

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Metalsonic66
12/18/19 1:57:57 PM
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Sahuagin posted...
played through 1-3 recently and was pretty disillusioned by them... they barely felt like games. 2 was the better of them, but... something about them. they didn't feel like games. the actual gameplay is almost non-existent and really all it boils down to is whether you can survive an annoying gauntlet of annoying enemies. parts of 3 were especially like that near the end, with really long sections that you had to barely get hit at all in since there's almost no health. very unenjoyable "gameplay" if that can even be called gameplay.
I don't know if I understand your definition of gameplay.

colinhorton posted...
The GameCube version on Anniversary Collection is better
Didn't that version swap A and B with no way to re-map?

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Sahuagin
12/18/19 2:17:23 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
I don't know if I understand your definition of gameplay.
it just feels incredibly vapid. some parts of 1 and 3 especially are *very* uninteresting. they both presented challenges that were not fun at all and just reeked of being "challenge walls". yes, this is definitely a subjective thing. and yes, I can love a hard game when I'm doing something interesting and new, but classic megaman gameplay is not exactly something I want to spend huge amounts of time fine-tuning and perfecting. probably I am just too old.

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Metalsonic66
12/18/19 2:32:36 PM
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A big part of classic Mega Man is literally just memorization of trap and enemy placement. A lot of the fun comes from getting better and better over the course of your "runs". It's actually like Dark Souls in that regard.

I understand that it isn't for everyone though.

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Judgmenl
12/18/19 2:34:51 PM
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6 is my favorite, 7 has aged horribly and 11 is surprisingly good.
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Metalsonic66 posted...
A big part of classic Mega Man is literally just memorization of trap and enemy placement. A lot of the fun comes from getting better and better over the course of your "runs". It's actually like Dark Souls in that regard.
This. Mega Man is a platformer about memorizing a stage, but unlike Dark Souls it's friendly.

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Sonicplys
12/18/19 2:42:51 PM
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That's not a hot take.
This is a hot take:
Megaman Legends is a trash garbage (it's true).

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SilentSeph
12/18/19 2:48:57 PM
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1 is definitely rough. I only beat it by abusing save states. Mega Man feels like he's always on ice in that game.

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Sahuagin
12/18/19 3:29:35 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Metalsonic66 posted...
A big part of classic Mega Man is literally just memorization of trap and enemy placement. A lot of the fun comes from getting better and better over the course of your "runs". It's actually like Dark Souls in that regard.
This. Mega Man is a platformer about memorizing a stage, but unlike Dark Souls it's friendly.
12yo me understands and agrees completely. 40yo me wants to do something else instead.

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Metalsonic66
12/18/19 3:43:35 PM
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It's not for everyone and there's nothing wrong with that, dood

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Mead
12/18/19 6:34:05 PM
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Sonicplys posted...
That's not a hot take.
This is a hot take:
Megaman Legends is a trash garbage (it's true).

fuck this post

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ParanoidObsessive
12/18/19 7:32:14 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Megaman 2 is what really got everything together, Megaman 3 perfected it and Megaman 4 slammed it!

I'd say Mega Man 1 was fun, but it wasn't incredibly great, and it had a lot of rough edges. Mega Man 2 basically took everything good about 1 and improved on it, making it a great game that was better in every possible way.

For 3, I'd say it was better in a lot of ways, but also weaker in some ways, so I usually have trouble deciding which I'd say was actually the better of the two games (or at least which one I prefer more) - if nothing else, 2 feels way more iconic to me than 3 does for the bosses and stages, 3 just feels more developed when it comes to supporting cast, with Rush and Proto Man.

Mega Man 4 is the game that basically made me stop caring about the series forever. I don't know if it was the fact that I was completely losing interest in the NES in favor of the SNES at that point, or if I was just shifting in terms of what I wanted from a game by that point (games like Myst and Maniac Mansion 2 were just around the corner), or if the game itself really failed to sell itself to me on any level, but I just couldn't even remotely care about 4 - and afterwards, I was barely aware that they were still releasing new games at all (and Mega Man X just left me utterly cold).



Sahuagin posted...
12yo me understands and agrees completely. 40yo me wants to do something else instead.

This sums up so much of my attitude towards gaming.

As a kid I was much more willing to put up with bullshit in games because there wasn't a massive selection of brilliant games and I didn't have anything better to do anyway most of the time. But as an adult when I'm constantly being pulled in a dozen different directions, in an age where there is more media available to consume than ever before in the entire history of the species, and I can feel the cold specter of death creeping up behind me, I have neither the time nor the patience for games that feel like they're wasting my time, or deliberately trying to piss me off.

I get it - frustration gaming is basically built on the idea that if you fail 99 times then that one time you DO succeed you get a phenomenal rush - but I don't have time to fail 99 times when there are so many other better things I could be playing or watching or reading or listening to. I'd rather spend most of my time consistently enjoying something 100/100 times, even if that "high" is comparatively lower, than getting one big moment and then spending most of the rest of my time chasing the dragon.

I understand why people enjoy games like Dark Souls, but there's almost nothing about it that appeals to me at all.

12 year old me probably would have been really into it, though.

Then again, 12 year old me was an idiot, and couldn't even beat Zelda II. Hey 12 year old me! I beat that shit in one night while drunk after a party in my late 20s. Adulthood, woo!
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Metalsonic66
12/18/19 7:37:04 PM
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6 > 8 > 7

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Blaqthourne
12/18/19 7:45:56 PM
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I've only played MM1&2 and they both sucked.
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EnvyFox
12/20/19 12:36:16 AM
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Mega Man 1 sucks? Maybe compared to the other main games in the classic Mega Man series but, when compared to the entire NES library, I still think it rates pretty high. If you want an NES game that suck, play Terminator 2: Judgement Day.
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NejiHyuga900
12/20/19 3:12:37 PM
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I agree. Well, probably was a pretty good game during its time (and better than many NES shovelware) but I don't like playing the first Mega Man game (unless if I play its PSP remake, which I prefer).

I love Mega Man 7 and Mega Man 11 is my favorite in the original series.

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Metalsonic66
12/20/19 9:33:30 PM
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Powered Up was definitely an improvement

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LOLIAmAnAlt
12/20/19 9:42:54 PM
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Stupid trash Toad Man, Mega Man 4 trash awful game. Dumb stupid Toad Man. I hate stupid Toad Man. Ruined Mega Man.

3=2>6=5=11>10=1>>>>8>7>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4

Didnt play enough of 9. Splash Womans stage was great though.

1,2,3,5,6,10,11 are all great classic games. 7 and 8 are good. 4 can rot.

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Phantom_Nook
12/20/19 9:49:10 PM
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...
I hate stupid Toad Man. Ruined Mega Man.
wtf? Toad Man is easy as shit.

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Zeus
12/20/19 10:34:05 PM
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MM1 criticisms are fairly nontroversial. It's not like it's the original SMB or anything. It was a good intro to the franchise, but it had balance issues, some of the platforming elements are stupidly brutal, etc.

EnvyFox posted...
Mega Man 1 sucks? Maybe compared to the other main games in the classic Mega Man series but, when compared to the entire NES library, I still think it rates pretty high. If you want an NES game that suck, play Terminator 2: Judgement Day.

It rates under a lot of Mega Man games, so I doubt it'd rate pretty high =p

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