Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXI: Final Results [smfffc]

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FFDragon posted...

Real talk Charon: CXXII final four is Seymour/Squall/Kefka/Fusoya

You're not trying to drag Fusoya into the finals with you?

I refuse to believe that's the final 4 since there's no FFXIII character in it.

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oh ffs today's new character in opera omnia is Fang

just king me while I'm down eh FF
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I agree, the best competitors bring 2-time winner Vivi to the finals and really earn it
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you heard Kleenex

let's get a VI-VI finals
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Time for us to push Tellah then?

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i may be forced into early retirement if we got to only ffvi characters left

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SEETHING hatred

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If you guys want a true goat there's a game that's been around for 18 contests and has had a grand total of four top tens split amongst its characters

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I guess we have vastly differing viewpoints, because I remember shitting myself trying to convince people to keep Vivi out of the CX final.

And I quote enjoyed Zell's stomp at the end there personally.
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v_charon posted...

Whether you wanted Lightning to win or not, you knew she was winning regardless

I didn't! But maybe I'm just out of touch, given the contest results. There were so many people in the next-to-last round complaining about the finals and about Lightning's impending victory that I thought they could help Edward eke out a win.

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Maybe I'm weird but I rather a final that is actually fairly close and contested/iconic.

Personally I don't care much about either of those things. It's all about how much I like the characters. I would love an Auron/Vivi final, very high quality, but I'd equally love an Estinien/Delita final. Or any other combo of those characters.

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I would rather kamikaze Layle then watch him become Lightning's Goat
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Drakeryn posted...

I didn't! But maybe I'm just out of touch, given the contest results. There were so many people in the next-to-last round complaining about the finals and about Lightning's impending victory that I thought they could help Edward eke out a win.

Most people complaining about that knew they were not going to vote for Edward though, that's the thing. They were already bemoaning the results because they knew Lightning had already won, and it was super boring.
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I'm no dog! I am a holy warrior!

Finals ranked:

Tidus vs. Kefka (CXVI) - Great quality match, close and both sides really into it for the long run. Not only ranking this as first since Tidus is my favorite winner, but the match itself was thrilling and never felt pre-decided. That's rare.

Vivi vs. Locke (CXVIII) - Quality match and a good fight to the end. Again, another match where there was a lot going for both sides and you weren't sure who might win.

Zack vs. Squall (CXIV) - Good quality, tight match. Nothing wrong with this.

Cloud vs. Laguna (CXIX) - High quality match, scarred by the MWC factor.

Balthier vs. Zidane (CVIII) - Cool match. I remember when people liked FFXII. Good times.

Cecil vs. Zidane (CI) - Again just going to base this off of the character quality, which is pretty high.

Auron vs. Sabin (CIX) - Not a bad final, good winner obviously but I don't think Sabin ever stood a chance here. But I don't think he was pushed and he's held up at least somewhat well in the years since.

Kuja vs. Terra (CVII) - At least Terra didn't win. A good win for the formerly dominant king of the contest.

Edgar vs. Tifa (CVI) - I like these characters and definitely participated. It's been too long for me to remember why it was so unpopular though.

Celes vs. Kuja (CIII) - Pretty good quality final, don't think I played.

Vivi vs. Rydia (CIV) - Good strong match, I think I might have participated a little but I'm not sure. Just going to rank this one according to characters.

Gilgamesh vs. Vivi (CXI) - Poor memories of this because I am still 99% sure Vivi actually won this match due to alt voting, from someone that later confessed the account I thought was an alt of his was all along. I'm still certain he used both accounts in this final, and given it was so close then yeah, Vivi should actually be a 3 time champion. Even so, the match was contested tightly and at least entertaining. Even if I have a level of envy and disdain for how Gilgamesh actually won.

Rydia vs. Cloud (CXV) - A bit sour on this in memory. I feel like this guy whom many dedicated the victory to disappeared from the board right after this.

Lulu vs. Auron (CII) - Can't comment much about this other than the quality. Apparently there was cheating involved and alts though, but I don't think I participated in this.

Marche vs. Lightning (CXIII) - A necessary, if rather stupid, conclusion.

Zidane vs. Ashe (CXII) - Largest blowout around, and even though Ashe is certainly a legit character and even defacto main character of her game, she was never in this. I feel like the 3rd and 4th place finishers (Rydia, Tidus) definitely would have fought Zidane much more here. This might have been the original case of "drag along a train for the easy win". But it's further out of my memory than others.

Reno vs. Kuja (CV) - The original bizarre win. This was more about voting against Kuja for some people I think, given his strength at this point in history. Definitely a strange result but I don't think it was particularly over-the-top like the last few have been.

Zell vs. Yuffie (CX) - I'm not gonna go on too much about how this came to be. I'll just say I didn't like it and the quality is pretty low anyway.

Steiner vs. Lightning (CXVII) - Yeah.

Lightning vs. Edward (CXXI) - Rendered the previous year pointless, since obviously the end goal was for Lightning to win. Literally almost the same final with a historically weak IV character getting destroyed.

Fang vs. Cid Pollendina (CXX) - Bad quality final with a boring end.

Ranking the finals. I based these on the characters in the final, which of the characters won as well as the general tone of the finals match itself. For instance I like Lightning alright, but the finals she's been a part of have been rather poor quality I think.
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oh hey so chatbot does work

alright I should get on that shower now
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v_charon posted...

Most people complaining about that knew they were not going to vote for Edward though, that's the thing. They were already bemoaning the results because they knew Lightning had already won, and it was super boring.

I don't really understand that, though. If you don't like a Lightning win, vote against it.

(Unless you hate Edward equally! Which is valid.)

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yes, poor memories of this because I am still 99% sure Vivi actually won this match due to alt voting, from someone that later confessed the account I thought was an alt of his was all along. I'm still certain he used both accounts in this final, and given it was so close then yeah, Vivi should actually be a 3 time champion. Even so, the match was contested tightly and at least entertaining. Even if I have a level of envy and disdain for how Gilgamesh actually won....

yes, poor quality I think....

good bot

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Anytime, Drakeryn~ o.o

bot what's for lunch

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Yeah I was just too desperate for the Lightning win, it's not a time to "go for a challenge" or anything like that. Again, the same thing got pulled last year on Kefka who was far more deserving than either of the other two. Gotta go for the better odds, as unsatisfying narratively as it might be!

I might try estimating the Auron/Lightning final but the fact is, at a glance, I'm seeing at least 8 switches from Lightning savers in this final + multiple savers who weren't involved going fully for Auron + more Edward savers going to Auron than Lightning. So yeah...

Mewtwo59 posted...

Martin, I hope Kefka can count on your support next year to defeat the specter of this year's nightmare.

If this was the "Year of VI" and last year's kind of lawyering happened then I probably would, yeah.

But this is a different situation, just like Red XIII and Vivi were robbed of deeper opportunities (not heartbroken for either of those!). I was also keeping count of the posts so I knew Kefka didn't have the saves. Sorry! Maybe I'll be on board with that by the end of next year when all my favs are inevitably gone despite my dreams of

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I am intrigued by the prospect of a Squall run, even though there hasn't been any respect shown by SOME of his backers, there have been from others. Ideally a Seifer push doesn't disrupt that. Kefka, Squall, Seymour and Garnet would all be nice SMFFFC stories, but the nicest would be hot-as-hell-7R-Tifa winning in the remake year.

Or "year of the villain" and Sephiroth gets the deep run I wasn't sufficiently committed to this year...

Drakeryn posted...

I don't really understand that, though. If you don't like a Lightning win, vote against it.

I prefer Lightning but don't dislike Edward. It really wasn't that "oh no Lightning has won" as much as it was, "ugh, really", at least for me. It's a repeat of last year and I'm just not sure who really wanted this. It didn't help that the main person behind Edward's run literally wrote him into second place before he even got there. I personally did not wish to support such a thing.
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bot rank these

Cecil
Lulu
Celes
Vivi
Reno
Edgar
Kuja
Balthier
Auron
Zell
Gilgamesh
Marche
Zack
Rydia
Tidus
Adelbert
Vivi
Cloud
Fang
Lightning

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Let's see...

1. Lulu
2. Auron
3. Zell
4. Adelbert
5. Balthier
6. Cloud
7. Gilgamesh
8. Edgar
9. Vivi
10. Kuja
11. Vivi
12. Rydia
13. Cecil
14. Marche
15. Tidus
16. Reno
17. Fang
18. Zack
19. Lightning
20. Celes

... yeah?

damn Seifer looks HOT
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I'll take a 20 if it nukes Lightning with

bot is my new Drakeryn
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oh I forgot Zidane, list tainted

bot rank these

Cecil
Lulu
Celes
Vivi
Reno
Edgar
Kuja
Balthier
Auron
Zell
Gilgamesh
Zidane
Marche
Zack
Rydia
Tidus
Adelbert
Vivi
Cloud
Fang
Lightning

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Let's see...

1. Marche
2. Lightning
3. Reno
4. Cloud
5. Kuja
6. Zell
7. Adelbert
8. Vivi
9. Zidane
10. Lulu
11. Edgar
12. Gilgamesh
13. Balthier
14. Auron
15. Cecil
16. Vivi
17. Zack
18. Celes
19. Tidus
20. Fang
21. Rydia

... yeah?

good bot

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MartinFF7 posted...

Yeah I was just too desperate for the Lightning win, it's not a time to "go for a challenge" or anything like that. Again, the same thing got pulled last year on Kefka who was far more deserving than either of the other two. Gotta go for the better odds, as unsatisfying narratively as it might be!

I might try estimating the Auron/Lightning final but the fact is, at a glance, I'm seeing at least 8 switches from Lightning savers in this final + multiple savers who weren't involved going fully for Auron + more Edward savers going to Auron than Lightning. So yeah...

If this was the "Year of VI" and last year's kind of lawyering happened then I probably would, yeah.

But this is a different situation, just like Red XIII and Vivi were robbed of deeper opportunities (not heartbroken for either of those!). I was also keeping count of the posts so I knew Kefka didn't have the saves. Sorry! Maybe I'll be on board with that by the end of next year when all my favs are inevitably gone despite my dreams of

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I am intrigued by the prospect of a Squall run, even though there hasn't been any respect shown by SOME of his backers, there have been from others. Ideally a Seifer push doesn't disrupt that. Kefka, Squall, Seymour and Garnet would all be nice SMFFFC stories, but the nicest would be hot-as-hell-7R-Tifa winning in the remake year.

Or "year of the villain" and Sephiroth gets the deep run I wasn't sufficiently committed to this year...

There's only one man who should win "year of the villain":
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/4/44/Ardyn_Izunia_Render_XV.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170217014613

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Anytime, X_Dante_X~ o.o

now bot just wants to repeat Marche in protest
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poor Marche

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Patroklos posted...

1. Lulu
2. Auron

Even with Vivi down to 9 I can fully accept this, thank you bot
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yes, poor Marche...

bot where's celesmyusername

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Well shit I was late
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https://gmun.moe/savemy/bots.php

bot list
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bot pick Yuffie or Selphie or Rikku or Doomtrain or Sabin

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Definitely Yuffie o.o

wow why did you take celesmyusername off the list

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one more thing before shower

#GRAPH:type:history;plot:gilbert;contest:smfffc#
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Edward "Edge" Geraldine HISTORY Plot [Nov.10/2019 20:16:13]
https://gmun.moe/savemy/chart/save/gilbert_history-31419201613.png

bot where's Mothra

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I don't think CelesMyUserName was! Gmun was a bot, and that was the bot that was exploited to screw up a Top 5 overnight
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#g:Kaiju#

Oh yeah, here's a dishonourable mention I want to call out.

Dante, a user who claims to always save his favorite final fantasy character, and had saved one in particular for nine straight rounds who made the final, only saved DK in the final.

Truly a hypocrite and a false prophet under his own ideological framework. Disappointing!

wait how did you get edge from gilbert

fuck it I'm not correcting until post-shower
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DK wasn't in Days 89-98
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i literally posted i wouldn't be saving either lightning or edward in the finals

btw who else got unsolicited pms from martin begging them to save things throughout the contest

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