Board 8 > The Death Stranding topic - A Crytobiote a day keeps the Timefall away

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I just noticed you get a Like from BT when cutting cords.

Interesting...

(I only just got to Ch8, if that's spelled out more later don't let me know.)
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Also as a huge MGS fan, Kojima has NEVER been good at pacing stories. And for as much as I love it, MGS3 is one of the most glaring examples of that. The plot is pretty damn minimal between first meeting Eva and getting captured.
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Yeah, but MGS3 gives you plenty of side content through radio conversations to keep you from thinking too much about that.

MGS3 crew the best.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Yeah, but MGS3 gives you plenty of side content through radio conversations to keep you from thinking too much about that.

MGS3 crew the best.

Hit the nail on the head! It is true that not much happens in the second quarter of MGS3, but it always feels like something is happening because it metes out weird memorable characters (and the introduction of major characters) in a way where it feels like the story is moving. In Death Stranding it feels like you are just doing random side quests for 15 hours. When it tries to flesh it out you get Junk Dealer and Chiral Artist. Of course MGS3 was also much shorter which is nice.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Yeah, but MGS3 gives you plenty of side content through radio conversations to keep you from thinking too much about that.

MGS3 crew the best.

Yeah that is very true. I do miss the "true" codec conversations that pretty much ended with MGS4. Though at least PW and V had the occasional gems in the tapes.
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PW's tapes are codecs basically, same format and all. It actually has some of the best I think! V changes it up a bit but there's no major difference in content.
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They're basically Codecs, but they're also much more limited and it takes away some of the surprise of, "I wonder what would happen if I called Sigint while wearing this tuxedo?"
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Tbh if you dont like Die Hardman you have bad taste
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LeonhartFour posted...

They're basically Codecs, but they're also much more limited and it takes away some of the surprise of, "I wonder what would happen if I called Sigint while wearing this tuxedo?"

Yeah, there's no "discovery" involved with the tapes. You just sort of get them, and then have to listen to them completely divorced from any mission instead of being a slight gameplay interlude.
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Lightning Strikes posted...

PW's tapes are codecs basically, same format and all. It actually has some of the best I think! V changes it up a bit but there's no major difference in content.

The writing in V's tapes was generally worse off, though. The format was fine, and I liked being able to play them during gameplay instead of pausing the game or accessing them from a menu.

This the third time I've seen the "Kojima is a way better game designer than he is a writer/storyteller" take in the past day and I have to agree. MGS1-3 really were exceptional for the time.

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Finished this today.

I honestly think people who gave this game poor reviews are going to look like idiots years from now. This is not an all-time great game by any means, but it's the most interesting game I've played in a long time. Also I don't think it actually wants to be a traditional videogame, but I still need to think about that.

As opaque/confusing as the plot is, it makes sense. I actually think the writing here is his best since MGS3. I might be biased because this game happens to be about kind of what i do for a living (writing/researching environmental issues)

Game probably needed some more unique gameplay set pieces but other than that I think it's pretty good.

I really wish I could objectively sit back and think about what my opinion on this game would be without the 1 hour monologue from Amelie at the end. It's really my number one sticking point. I hated a lot of the other cutscene stuff, but that's THE ONE. That's the thing that I cannot get over, that overrides the entirety of actually playing the game beforehand.

Sitting through it was the worst thing that's ever happened to me in my life.

I feel that you finally understand what I felt sitting through MGS4's 75 minute long powerpoint presentation ending.
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I generally enjoyed MGS4's ending despite its length! The wedding scene is a complete disaster though, and Snake's final moment for the series being a bad joke about Sunny's eggs is, well, a bad joke.
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The fact I'm making a private zipline for the Elder infuriates me, I hate that guy!!
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Though I think the only reason I don't like him is because he lives so far out in nowhere, which the zipline fixes...
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MichelBollinger posted...

I really wish I could objectively sit back and think about what my opinion on this game would be without the 1 hour monologue from Amelie at the end. It's really my number one sticking point. I hated a lot of the other cutscene stuff, but that's THE ONE. That's the thing that I cannot get over, that overrides the entirety of actually playing the game beforehand.

Sitting through it was the worst thing that's ever happened to me in my life.

How melodramatic.
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Wonder where I got it from.

Beat it. What a strange strange game. I definitely wouldn't call it GOTY or anything but it had this weird endearing quality to it

Yeah that ending bit of wandering the beach waiting for Amelie exposition dragged too long. I was fine with simply walking along the beach as "I'll Keep Coming" played but those long gaps of nothing waiting for Amelie to just restate things was annoying.

The Die-Hardman scene was great. Kudos to the actor.

I am confused about the last bit. Was Sam's BB his kid that he thought he lost or was it just some random one? Maybe its implied in some logs or something which I never got around to looking at.

I am also kind of bummed this didn't turn out to be Silent Hill because it feels like it would have fit well with it. C'mon Kojima, grab Junji Ito and make some wacky ass horror with this shit next game.
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GANON1025 posted...

Though I think the only reason I don't like him is because he lives so far out in nowhere, which the zipline fixes...

I'm not sure he has any deliveries post-zip line though. I definitely had one timed delivery I used zip lines for him, but it was around before that.
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Pirateking2000 posted...

Beat it. What a strange strange game. I definitely wouldn't call it GOTY or anything but it had this weird endearing quality to it



I am confused about the last bit. Was Sam's BB his kid that he thought he lost or was it just some random one? Maybe its implied in some logs or something which I never got around to looking at.

BB was just a random BB. The stinger of the ending is that Lou was female the entire time

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78204359

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Mid December update to address the tiny text and other community requested fixes
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Just had to explain the entire plot of death Stranding to a coworker who only plays xbox but had been watching videos of boss battles on YouTube and wanted to know what was up
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https://twitter.com/DeathStranding_/status/1199814062818942977?s=19
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Tommie Earl Jenkins as Die-Hardman was ROBBED

It's Reedus though, mocap saferoom animations too strong

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Hes in the comments liking every response that says him instead
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troy baker chews up every scene he's in

unfortunately the character sucks but hey that's death stranding baby
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yeah higgs actually was kind of dumb

felt like he was thrown in to make the game feel more "videogamey"

Higgs is cool tbqh

I'm on Chapter 6 now, is there a point in the future where it would be "good" to stop and do a bunch of deliveries? Like if I 5-starred a bunch of these mountain guys now, in future will I be like "if ONLY I waited until when this thing happened/unlocked, things would have been easier"?
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There's nothing as big as zip lines coming up afaik, but you have an obvious temporary complication that you probably want to power through the plot to solve first.
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Well yeah, you're right there's that but I don't expect that to last the whole chapter.
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Higgs has Metal Face energy. He is so dumb but I can't hate him and Troy Baker's hammy accent sells it.

WE GOT DOOOOMS, SAM

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GANON1025 posted...

Higgs is cool tbqh

I'm on Chapter 6 now, is there a point in the future where it would be "good" to stop and do a bunch of deliveries? Like if I 5-starred a bunch of these mountain guys now, in future will I be like "if ONLY I waited until when this thing happened/unlocked, things would have been easier"?

As long as you have the snow skeleton you're good

Which reminds me of a mechanical quirk from Ch 9: wtf was the deal with the Vog? I used the gas mask for that one mission it's introduced in and never again

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https://twitter.com/sibahunoatama/status/1200383439955886081
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Into Chapter 8. Everything in Heartman's lab has been great!

So what have you all done to "connect" the mountainous region with the rest of the map? Ziplines? Complete the highway? I'm trying to figure out the most efficient way to do this.
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GANON1025 posted...

Into Chapter 8. Everything in Heartman's lab has been great!

So what have you all done to "connect" the mountainous region with the rest of the map? Ziplines? Complete the highway? I'm trying to figure out the most efficient way to do this.

Both. Completing the highway works best for Mountain Knot City IMO, but before I did that I found that a zipline near the hot spring by the Roboticist connecting to the Weather Station worked well enough

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Well I'm still not done and I won't be playing for a week. I look forward to all my zip lines being broken when I get back!
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The timefall giveth and taketh awayeth
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I think I'm going to make a run toward the ending, I'm about to enter the tar zone now.
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for the people aiming for the platinum, you best do this soon while the game is fresh and online structures are holding up

I have a feeling ziplines will get nerfed hard in the future (if they haven't already) because using them for the premium deliveries honestly felt like cheating
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no way, premium deliveries are designed around being able to use Ziplines. Especially the time limit ones. A lot of them are basically impossible to S rank without the zip lines
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does delivery time for orders that aren't timed matter? I've taken long winding detours for non-premium deliveries that didn't have the time count against it
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I don't believe so
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Most orders have a Like bonus based on Distance, but that isn't ever part of your actual rating. Time only counts when explicitly stated, including for some orders that don't actually level up your Delivery Time rank, but when it does it always factors into your rating for the order.
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kevwaffles posted...

Most orders have a Like bonus based on Distance, but that isn't ever part of your actual rating. Time only counts when explicitly stated, including for some orders that don't actually level up your Delivery Time rank, but when it does it always factors into your rating for the order.

good to know

I also notice you don't get timefall damage on cargo when traveling on ziplines, unless timefall damage doesn't affect the ratings
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GranzonEx posted...

good to know

I also notice you don't get timefall damage on cargo when traveling on ziplines, unless timefall damage doesn't affect the ratings

Timefall damages the containers, not the cargo itself. I guess it'll damage the cargo if the container is ruined, but you really shouldn't be standing around in timefall long enough to let that happen anyway

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Got up to Chapter 12. Hopefully I can finish it all up tomorrow.

Tell me this: At this point have I heard the line everyone has talked about? I have some guesses of what it might be if I have.
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I think so, it's in the chapter that has a couple boss fights

Curious as to your guesses

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