Poll of the Day > Donald Trump is a shitty president that deserves to be impeached Megathread

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streamofthesky posted...

HornedLion posted...

OMFG!!! The GOPs came out swinging attacking Schiff about the whistleblower, and Swalwell just asked that Trumps threats towards the whistleblower and talking about how they handled thing back in the old days to be put into the record.

THIS SHIT IS FUCKING CRAZY!

The weak, easy-to-push-around Dems have left the building! Now entering the no-shit-taking-hard-hitting Dems.

Its like Clark Kent just jumped into a fucking phone booth with the closest kryptonite is 100,000,000 light years away!!!!!

IM MAKING POPCORN FOR THE NEXT HEARING!

Honestly, I won't believe that the Democrats have grown a spine until the next Democratic president is sworn in on 2021 and refuses to bow to the urges from the craven and the compromised to pardon Trump and spare him from jail, "for the sake of national unity, and to end this hyper polarized era"

You KNOW that shit is coming. GWB fucking tortured people and never even stood trial b/c the Dems didn't want to be "dividers." Only Republicans can be that. Dems are supposed to just let the Reps get away with shit and move on, "be the bigger man."
Hell, I bet the second that there's a Dem president and Dem majority Senate, the Republicans will say we need to restore the filibuster, too.

You speak the truth.
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papercup posted...

Stone is asking Trump to pardon him. If Trump actually pardons him... jesus christ, it's a fucking admission of guilt.

If Trump pardons him, he loses his ability to plead the 5th and congress can compel him to testify.

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HornedLion posted...

streamofthesky posted...

HornedLion posted...

OMFG!!! The GOPs came out swinging attacking Schiff about the whistleblower, and Swalwell just asked that Trumps threats towards the whistleblower and talking about how they handled thing back in the old days to be put into the record.

THIS SHIT IS FUCKING CRAZY!

The weak, easy-to-push-around Dems have left the building! Now entering the no-shit-taking-hard-hitting Dems.

Its like Clark Kent just jumped into a fucking phone booth with the closest kryptonite is 100,000,000 light years away!!!!!

IM MAKING POPCORN FOR THE NEXT HEARING!

Honestly, I won't believe that the Democrats have grown a spine until the next Democratic president is sworn in on 2021 and refuses to bow to the urges from the craven and the compromised to pardon Trump and spare him from jail, "for the sake of national unity, and to end this hyper polarized era"

You KNOW that shit is coming. GWB fucking tortured people and never even stood trial b/c the Dems didn't want to be "dividers." Only Republicans can be that. Dems are supposed to just let the Reps get away with shit and move on, "be the bigger man."
Hell, I bet the second that there's a Dem president and Dem majority Senate, the Republicans will say we need to restore the filibuster, too.

You speak the truth.

Yeah that's pretty much what I expect too. There's precedent for it and the dems sure are fucking spineless.

Sir_Specter posted...

HornedLion posted...

streamofthesky posted...

HornedLion posted...

OMFG!!! The GOPs came out swinging attacking Schiff about the whistleblower, and Swalwell just asked that Trumps threats towards the whistleblower and talking about how they handled thing back in the old days to be put into the record.

THIS SHIT IS FUCKING CRAZY!

The weak, easy-to-push-around Dems have left the building! Now entering the no-shit-taking-hard-hitting Dems.

Its like Clark Kent just jumped into a fucking phone booth with the closest kryptonite is 100,000,000 light years away!!!!!

IM MAKING POPCORN FOR THE NEXT HEARING!

Honestly, I won't believe that the Democrats have grown a spine until the next Democratic president is sworn in on 2021 and refuses to bow to the urges from the craven and the compromised to pardon Trump and spare him from jail, "for the sake of national unity, and to end this hyper polarized era"

You KNOW that shit is coming. GWB fucking tortured people and never even stood trial b/c the Dems didn't want to be "dividers." Only Republicans can be that. Dems are supposed to just let the Reps get away with shit and move on, "be the bigger man."
Hell, I bet the second that there's a Dem president and Dem majority Senate, the Republicans will say we need to restore the filibuster, too.

You speak the truth.

Yeah that's pretty much what I expect too. There's precedent for it and the dems sure are fucking spineless.

And yet whos holding impeachment hearings and whos trying to obstruct?
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The house needs to go over to the senate and just start doing stone cold stunners to senators
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TyVulpine posted...

Sir_Specter posted...

HornedLion posted...

streamofthesky posted...

HornedLion posted...

OMFG!!! The GOPs came out swinging attacking Schiff about the whistleblower, and Swalwell just asked that Trumps threats towards the whistleblower and talking about how they handled thing back in the old days to be put into the record.

THIS SHIT IS FUCKING CRAZY!

The weak, easy-to-push-around Dems have left the building! Now entering the no-shit-taking-hard-hitting Dems.

Its like Clark Kent just jumped into a fucking phone booth with the closest kryptonite is 100,000,000 light years away!!!!!

IM MAKING POPCORN FOR THE NEXT HEARING!

Honestly, I won't believe that the Democrats have grown a spine until the next Democratic president is sworn in on 2021 and refuses to bow to the urges from the craven and the compromised to pardon Trump and spare him from jail, "for the sake of national unity, and to end this hyper polarized era"

You KNOW that shit is coming. GWB fucking tortured people and never even stood trial b/c the Dems didn't want to be "dividers." Only Republicans can be that. Dems are supposed to just let the Reps get away with shit and move on, "be the bigger man."
Hell, I bet the second that there's a Dem president and Dem majority Senate, the Republicans will say we need to restore the filibuster, too.

You speak the truth.

Yeah that's pretty much what I expect too. There's precedent for it and the dems sure are fucking spineless.

And yet whos holding impeachment hearings and whos trying to obstruct?

It took them a ridiculous amount of time to start impeachment hearings in no small part because Nancy Pelosi is a "centrist" (read: "conservative in blue") idiot and she and others like her were holding them back.

There was plenty of material to work with before the Ukraine call.

Look I'm not defending republican obstructionism here. Those guys are like a fucking cult. I'm saying that the democrats have wildly mismanaged their response to Trump and made themselves look painfully inept and weak. It began right from the inception of this whole mess when they threw their populist candidate under the bus in favor of Hillary "It's my fucking turn!" Clinton. They ran one of the highest profile Washington insiders against a man who's campaign was largely about how washington insiders are ruining the country, drain the swamp, etc. Doesn't matter that he lied about it. He sold that message and Clinton couldn't combat it.

Trump's term is practically over. I understand that he HAS to be impeached to set precedent that presidents must be held accountable for this kind of thing. But beyond that, removing him at the tail end of his term, if they even can, is pretty impotent.

Edit: Is that sig an Aquabats reference?

The reason the impeachment hearings took so long to start is because Democrats wanted to ensure that they wouldnt be facing a backlash in the 2020 elections. They didnt want to enrage Trumps base in a way that would cost Democrats the House again and possibly worse if their impeachment attempt failed miserably (Trump winning a second term) But the way its going now, they have Trump by the balls and he keeps digging himself deeper into a hole.
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Sir_Specter posted...

But beyond that, removing him at the tail end of his term, if they even can, is pretty impotent.

Except that he is abusing his position for personal gain in the next election. So removing him is actually pretty important.
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TyVulpine posted...

The reason the impeachment hearings took so long to start is because Democrats wanted to ensure that they wouldnt be facing a backlash in the 2020 elections. They didnt want to enrage Trumps base in a way that would cost Democrats the House again and possibly worse if their impeachment attempt failed miserably (Trump winning a second term) But the way its going now, they have Trump by the balls and he keeps digging himself deeper into a hole.

And in the meantime, they allowed him to pass a number of terrible measures like getting funding for the wall, stripping various environmental protection laws including gutting the endangered species act, and most damning for the Democrats, he passed tax reform that set small cuts for middle class families which are set to expire in, I think it was 2021, alongside massive cuts for corporations that aren't set to expire. It was a calculated move by people smarter than Trump so that when 2021 rolls around, they can say "See? President Democrat is raising your taxes now because they can't extend these deficit-raising cuts on your family! The democrats want to take all your money!"

They had enough evidence with Russia. They had enough evidence when he fired Comey. They dragged their feet and dug themselves into a hole and it cost the country many millions of dollars spent on aiding the rich and building a useless wall.

Remember when the Mueller report was supposed to have Trump "by the balls?" I remember. I didn't believe it for a second. The democrats are allergic to taking action.

Mead posted...

Sir_Specter posted...

But beyond that, removing him at the tail end of his term, if they even can, is pretty impotent.

Except that he is abusing his position for personal gain in the next election. So removing him is actually pretty important.

And that, you know, it's their fucking duty to impeach him if he's not going to hold himself accountable after doing illegal things. Anyone with a brain knows he's not going to get removed but impeaching him so that there are trials and more of the shady shit comes to light benefits every american citizen
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Mead posted...

Sir_Specter posted...

But beyond that, removing him at the tail end of his term, if they even can, is pretty impotent.

Except that he is abusing his position for personal gain in the next election. So removing him is actually pretty important.

Read the whole post, please. "I understand that he HAS to be impeached to set precedent that presidents must be held accountable for this kind of thing." I agree that impeaching him is important. That's why they should have tried sooner, but Pelosi and Schumer are cowards who don't know what direction the party is moving in.

OrangeDawn posted...

And that, you know, it's their fucking duty to impeach him if he's not going to hold himself accountable after doing illegal things. Anyone with a brain knows he's not going to get removed but impeaching him so that there are trials and more of the shady shit comes to light benefits every american citizen

You too. Read the whole post. Don't cherry pick. You're arguing with someone who agrees with you.

I don't think his Ukrainian opposition research is gonna do him any good in the next election. I think he's fucked. But hey, the democrats could botch it again and run Biden or something.

Sir_Specter posted...

Read the whole post

Make me
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Sir_Specter posted...

Mead posted...

Sir_Specter posted...

But beyond that, removing him at the tail end of his term, if they even can, is pretty impotent.

Except that he is abusing his position for personal gain in the next election. So removing him is actually pretty important.

Read the whole post, please. "I understand that he HAS to be impeached to set precedent that presidents must be held accountable for this kind of thing." I agree that impeaching him is important. That's why they should have tried sooner, but Pelosi and Schumer are cowards who don't know what direction the party is moving in.

OrangeDawn posted...

And that, you know, it's their fucking duty to impeach him if he's not going to hold himself accountable after doing illegal things. Anyone with a brain knows he's not going to get removed but impeaching him so that there are trials and more of the shady shit comes to light benefits every american citizen

You too. Read the whole post. Don't cherry pick. You're arguing with someone who agrees with you.

I don't think his Ukrainian opposition research is gonna do him any good in the next election. I think he's fucked. But hey, the democrats could botch it again and run Biden or something.

I disagree. The Ukraine stuff is the perfect thing to impeach him over. Polling even shows its much less divisive then any other dumb thing he did. They couldn't do anything until Jan 1, 2019 anyway since they needed a house majority. I agree impeachment was always going to be an important issue for democrats since they talked about it so much before the midterms but the issue they chose to pin him on was definitely just as important.
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OrangeDawn posted...

Sir_Specter posted...

Mead posted...

Sir_Specter posted...

But beyond that, removing him at the tail end of his term, if they even can, is pretty impotent.

Except that he is abusing his position for personal gain in the next election. So removing him is actually pretty important.

Read the whole post, please. "I understand that he HAS to be impeached to set precedent that presidents must be held accountable for this kind of thing." I agree that impeaching him is important. That's why they should have tried sooner, but Pelosi and Schumer are cowards who don't know what direction the party is moving in.

OrangeDawn posted...

And that, you know, it's their fucking duty to impeach him if he's not going to hold himself accountable after doing illegal things. Anyone with a brain knows he's not going to get removed but impeaching him so that there are trials and more of the shady shit comes to light benefits every american citizen

You too. Read the whole post. Don't cherry pick. You're arguing with someone who agrees with you.

I don't think his Ukrainian opposition research is gonna do him any good in the next election. I think he's fucked. But hey, the democrats could botch it again and run Biden or something.

I disagree. The Ukraine stuff is the perfect thing to impeach him over. Polling even shows its much less divisive then any other dumb thing he did. They couldn't do anything until Jan 1, 2019 anyway since they needed a house majority. I agree impeachment was always going to be an important issue for democrats since they talked about it so much before the midterms but the issue they chose to pin him on was definitely just as important.

Well I also disagree with your assessment. Especially because it's very similar to the whole Russian debacle, the key difference being that he wasn't president at the time, but he was still openly inviting a hostile foreign power to meddle in our election, which they then did. I don't think waiting a little for more public opinion to shift excuses all of the shit they let him get away with. Especially now that impeachment hearings have started and we're seeing public opinion shift as they go on and more comes out. I think the same shift would have happened if they had started them sooner. But we're both speculating here so it's hard to say who's right about that one. That's my take though.

Mead posted...

Sir_Specter posted...

Read the whole post

Make me

You're so cool, dude. What a rebel

How can somebody bribe somebody with money that a country already publicly vowed to pay? The anti-Trump coalition just gets zanier and zanier. And in general these impeachment hearings might seem to have more weight if coalition members weren't also calling for impeachment *before* Trump took office and some of the claims weren't so outlandish ("Oh, he decided to just randomly call somebody in a restaurant and talk loudly enough that we could hear him even without the phone!") that they wouldn't be believed except by fans of the constant faux scandals.
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There could be a video of Trump committing treason, saying Im committing treason, and still the GOP would be on his side, mostly. Unless he called Jesus a bigoted slur of some sort, maybe squashed a bunch of babies too, he will seemingly keep his supporters. I dont get it. Hes really stupid. Why do people like that?

Aaantlion posted...

How can somebody bribe somebody with money that a country already publicly vowed to pay?

By withholding said money as a bribe in return for favors that would have benefited Trump, not the nation.

Aaantlion posted...

("Oh, he decided to just randomly call somebody in a restaurant and talk loudly enough that we could hear him even without the phone!")

They didn't simply eavesdrop on the president, genius. There are staffers whose job it is to make transcripts of White House conversations. People were listening in on the phone call for the express purpose of making a record of the call.
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Aaantlion posted...

How can somebody bribe somebody with money that a country already publicly vowed to pay?

https://youtu.be/AQQPNQ0PFSc
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Did y'all catch Trump witness tampering in real time during the hearing yesterday?

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GanonsSpirit posted...

Did y'all catch Trump witness tampering in real time during the hearing yesterday?

It's like he wants to get impeached
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Has anyone else noticed that trump is a terrible turd
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GanonsSpirit posted...

Did y'all catch Trump witness tampering in real time during the hearing yesterday?

I think his tweet and intent can be open to interpretation. I think it is a clear attack. But... on its own, it can be subjective.

Now, as Adam Schiff said, it does display a pattern on behalf of the president. And that pattern is one of witness tampering.

So youre right.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/us/louisiana-governor-edwards-rispone.html

Democrat John Bel Edwards wins re-election in Louisiana, defeating challenger who was heavily supported by Trump
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HornedLion posted...

GanonsSpirit posted...

Did y'all catch Trump witness tampering in real time during the hearing yesterday?

I think his tweet and intent can be open to interpretation. I think it is a clear attack. But... on its own, it can be subjective.

Now, as Adam Schiff said, it does display a pattern on behalf of the president. And that pattern is one of witness tampering.

So youre right.

It really cant be interpreted any other way.

Its textbook intimidation.
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You can argue about intent all you want (which, even THAT is clear as day) but having the President of the United States slamming you on his preferred social media outlet while you're giving testimony in his impeachment hearing is always going to be intimidating.
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Mad_Max posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/us/louisiana-governor-edwards-rispone.html

Democrat John Bel Edwards wins re-election in Louisiana, defeating challenger who was heavily supported by Trump

Was a close race but I'm hearing JBE performed better in the suburbs then he did previously which... is basically how many dems have been winning races post-2016. If republicans keep losing support in the suburbs, they're going to be fucked in 2020.
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Lmfao, did yall see those notes Trump wrote? Hes a fucking joke, and everyone who supports him is a joke too.

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PK_Spam posted...

Lmfao, did yall see those notes Trump wrote? Hes a fucking joke, and everyone who supports him is a joke too.

Hes like, I said, I want no quid pro quo. I want nothing!

Lol. Yeah, Doo-Doo head, now that you know theres a whistleblower complaint out you say that. I doubt he even knew what quid pro quo meant before this started.

Its like a guy who was all for picking up a chick at the red light district, and then when he gets a text from his boy saying, Thats an undercover cop, he kicks her out the car and say, I WANT NOTHING!
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HornedLion posted...

PK_Spam posted...

Lmfao, did yall see those notes Trump wrote? Hes a fucking joke, and everyone who supports him is a joke too.

Hes like, I said, I want no quid pro quo. I want nothing!

Lol. Yeah, Doo-Doo head, now that you know theres a whistleblower complaint out you say that. I doubt he even knew what quid pro quo meant before this started.

Its like a guy who was all for picking up a chick at the red light district, and then when he gets a text from his boy saying, Thats an undercover cop, he kicks her out the car and say, I WANT NOTHING!

Trump is no Hugh Grant....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ssrr2OsQ0

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1197521967777222656
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Blighboy posted...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1197521967777222656

@OhhhJa @Aaantlion
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Good lord
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Thank you to all the lefties that continue to demonstrate that TDS is a thing.

Also, the inquiry continues to be a fantastic failure by the democrats. Like everything else they've done in the last... god knows how long.

But I am sure that continuing to promise free shit to losers and illegals will achieve much.
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Trump says he does want always corruption

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-fox-news-interview-ukraine-corruption-a9213866.html
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papercup posted...

Trump says he does want always corruption

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-fox-news-interview-ukraine-corruption-a9213866.html

ROFLMAO!

He makes all of George Bushs gaffs seem insignificant.

What a jackass.
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The_tall_midget posted...
Once again, Trumpers show they can't defend their cult leader with facts, just insults.
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papercup posted...

Trump says he does want always corruption

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-fox-news-interview-ukraine-corruption-a9213866.html

What a stable genius!

And there are still those that who are too weak-minded to understand the evidence presented at the inquiry, who continue to prattle on about "TDS" and other impotent buzzwords that Trump's drooling masses cling to when they have nothing substantive to say. Hard to present a decent argument when there's a daunting mountain of facts in your way, I guess.

BloodWhen_iWipe posted...

papercup posted...

Trump says he does want always corruption

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-fox-news-interview-ukraine-corruption-a9213866.html

What a stable genius!

And there are still those that who are too weak-minded to understand the evidence presented at the inquiry, who continue to prattle on about "TDS" and other impotent buzzwords that Trump's drooling masses cling to when they have nothing substantive to say. Hard to present a decent argument when there's a daunting mountain of facts in your way, I guess.

Youre right. I mean, if folks actually took the time to read the Mueller Report they would have demanded his impeachment months ago. But this is where we are. Facts dont matter.

And the same people that talk about needing guns to protect themselves from a runaway government are the same ones eating this shit up. You know, the ones that need guns to protect themselves from a corrupt government but did nothing while Bush passed The Patriot Act just because theres an R next to his name.

Trump and the GOP love the poorly educated. Supposedly they love the vets too but this week we saw Trump pardon military criminals but shit on a law abiding Lieutenant Colonel because he chose to speak the truth.

Knowing is half the battle.

These guys have their guns but arent even fighting the good fight.

Weve been lead to believe that its the GOP that cares about the servicemen, immigration reform, the rule of law, the national deficit, etc. Trump has helped expose that theyre full of shit and only really care about making whatever argument best suits them at the time.
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The_tall_midget posted...

Thank you to all the lefties that continue to demonstrate that TDS is a thing.

Also, the inquiry continues to be a fantastic failure by the democrats. Like everything else they've done in the last... god knows how long.

But I am sure that continuing to promise free shit to losers and illegals will achieve much.

But all your posts consist of crying about the left

Trump boasts of opening a manufacturing plant for Apple products...

...that's been in operation since 2013:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/us/politics/trump-texas-apple-factory.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mlxndvMQVs

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Russia not a hostile foreign power.
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https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/trumps-rambling-fox-friends-appearance-read-as-admission-of-guilt-on-comey-firing-ukraine-call/ Trump just fucking admitted he did the thing Republicans just spent 2 months trying to half-assedly pretend he didn't do.
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papercup posted...

https://lawandcrime.com/awkward/trumps-rambling-fox-friends-appearance-read-as-admission-of-guilt-on-comey-firing-ukraine-call/ Trump just fucking admitted he did the thing Republicans just spent 2 months trying to half-assedly pretend he didn't do.

But nope. Hes totally innocent and everyone else is out to get him.

Heres one of them trying to play the role of merely an intelligent observer but then melt down when confronted with actual facts:

https://youtu.be/Hy8l1IYGsOY
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I love that the GOPs strongest defense is that none of the witnesses who testified at the inquiry said Trump explicitly told them he was withholding aid in return for an investigation into Biden, but the White House refused to let those who may have direct knowledge of such a scheme testify. Because, you know, that's what innocent people do.

If this were a court of law, there'd be more than enough evidence to convict. But impeachment is a whole 'nother animal. Still very much an uphill battle, but those Republicans have to know that any American with a functioning brain in their skull knows Trump is corrupt, self-serving, and treasonous. Writing is on the wall if the Democrats can field a halfway decent candidate.
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Its not a crime if you dont say it

The words are what lock in the juices
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Mead posted...

Its not a crime if you dont say it

Bingo. Trump's legal team knows no one is going to perjure themselves and risk prison for Trump's sorry ass. Next best thing is to keep them from talking at all
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Mad_Max posted...

I love that the GOPs strongest defense is that none of the witnesses who testified at the inquiry said Trump explicitly told them he was withholding aid in return for an investigation into Biden, but the White House refused to let those who may have direct knowledge of such a scheme testify. Because, you know, that's what innocent people do.

Everyone knows that it's impossible for anything someone does to be considered a criminal act unless he loudly shouts, "HEY, I'M COMMITTING A CRIME! HEY, YOU! CAN YOU HELP ME COMMIT THIS CRIME? I JUST LOVE BREAKING THE LAW!" or the like as he does it.

The_tall_midget posted...

Thank you to all the lefties that continue to demonstrate that TDS is a thing.

Also, the inquiry continues to be a fantastic failure by the democrats. Like everything else they've done in the last... god knows how long.

But I am sure that continuing to promise free shit to losers and illegals will achieve much.

TDS? You mean the thing that originally started as Bush Derangement Syndrome, then became Obama Derangement Syndrome and now is called Trump Derangement Syndrome? The thing that medical science has yet to certify as as an actual ailment?
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