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cjsdowg 09/16/19 6:55:17 PM #51:	FighterStreet2 posted... ledbowman posted... He thinks rap doesn't have melody lol! Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_BbfpHfEcA" data-time=" --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:927532942] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>He thinks rap doesn't have melody lol!</quote> Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_BbfpHfEcA" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 09/16/19 6:57:23 PM #53:	trying to defend rap music to out of touch idiots is pretty pointless. Hip-hop has never given any fucks about the opinions of outsiders. whether it be the Beastie Boys telling critics to shut the fuck up or 2Pac saying shut the fuck up, Eminem, Kendrick... the sentiment is the same. fuck em. not even up for debate, lol --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:927533021] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>trying to defend rap music to out of touch idiots is pretty pointless. Hip-hop has never given any fucks about the opinions of outsiders. whether it be the Beastie Boys telling critics to shut the fuck up or 2Pac saying shut the fuck up, Eminem, Kendrick... the sentiment is the same. fuck em. not even up for debate, lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 09/16/19 6:57:37 PM #54:	fenderbender321 posted... But you can't really whistle the lyrics of your favorite rap song. So it's definitely...different. or maybe it's just too hard. I've heard people whistle "Aint nothing but a G Thang" before. --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:927533034] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> But you can't really whistle the lyrics of your favorite rap song. So it's definitely...different. or maybe it's just too hard. </quote> I've heard people whistle "Aint nothing but a G Thang" before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 09/16/19 6:58:02 PM #55:	I cant imagine being above the age 14 and thinking like ben about rap music not being music. Jfc hes a moron <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:927533050] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>I cant imagine being above the age 14 and thinking like ben about rap music not being music. Jfc hes a moron</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 09/16/19 6:58:39 PM #56:	Baby Ben hates rap because it's what all the cool kids listen to. --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:927533071] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Baby Ben hates rap because it's what all the cool kids listen to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 09/16/19 6:58:54 PM #57:	like if you can listen to slow jamz by kanye and not find the melody and harmony, your ears and brain are broken. --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:927533084] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>like if you can listen to slow jamz by kanye and not find the melody and harmony, your ears and brain are broken.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kavatar 09/16/19 7:02:03 PM #58:	Ben: "Daddy, what makes up music?" Dad: "Well son, there are three elements to music. There is harmony, there is melody and there is rhythm. Now eat your vegetables." Ben: "Finally, the proof I've been looking for!" starts typing --- The sea was angry that day, my friends. Like an old man trying to send back soup at a deli. <cite>Kavatar posted [p:927533202] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Ben: "Daddy, what makes up music?" Dad: "Well son, there are three elements to music. There is harmony, there is melody and there is rhythm. Now eat your vegetables." Ben: "Finally, the proof I've been looking for!" starts typing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 09/16/19 7:05:43 PM #59:	Rap music with all these thing explained . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRzjNPSlXH0" data-time=" --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:927533339] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Rap music with all these thing explained . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRzjNPSlXH0" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 09/16/19 7:06:46 PM #60:	This is Ben Shapiro as a teenager, nuff said. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:927533384] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>This is Ben Shapiro as a teenager, nuff said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 09/16/19 7:09:23 PM #61:	Lolll oh my jesus --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:927533482] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Lolll oh my jesus</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 09/16/19 7:09:39 PM #62:	fenderbender321 posted... Machete posted... fenderbender321 posted... I mean, this debate is like debating if cheerleading is a sport. It's categorization does not change it's substance, so the debate is only worth a bit of mental masturbation. What are you saying exactly? I don't get the connection. I'm just saying that if we finally decide on whether or not rap is actually music or not, it will change nothing. We can't "decide" that it's not unless we completely change the definition of music and there is no way to do that which will exclude rap exclusively. It's literally impossible, because the closest thing we can do is define music as "what music used to be defined as... but now excluding rap" Unless you can think of a way that I can't think of... --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:927533492] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, this debate is like debating if cheerleading is a sport. It's categorization does not change it's substance, so the debate is only worth a bit of mental masturbation.</quote> What are you saying exactly? I don't get the connection.</quote> I'm just saying that if we finally decide on whether or not rap is actually music or not, it will change nothing.</quote> We can't "decide" that it's not unless we completely change the definition of music and there is no way to do that which will exclude rap exclusively. It's literally impossible, because the closest thing we can do is define music as "what music used to be defined as... but now excluding rap" Unless you can think of a way that I can't think of...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FighterStreet2 09/16/19 7:10:11 PM #63:	knutjob posted... FighterStreet2 posted... Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Di5C82-5s" data-time=" the part he is playing is not the rap part of the song. <cite>FighterStreet2 posted [p:927533513] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted... </cite> <quote>Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Di5C82-5s" data-time=" </quote> the part he is playing is not the rap part of the song.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 09/16/19 7:10:42 PM #64:	Ben Shapiro: "I listen to everything, except country and rap." --- And I am done with my graceless heart, so tonight I'm gonna cut it out and then restart Now Playing: Yakuza 5, Final Fantasy X-2, Minecraft <cite>MrMallard posted [p:927533542] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Ben Shapiro: "I listen to everything, except country and rap."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FighterStreet2 09/16/19 7:11:11 PM #65:	cjsdowg posted... FighterStreet2 posted... ledbowman posted... He thinks rap doesn't have melody lol! Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_BbfpHfEcA" data-time=" once again, the part he is playing has nothing to do with that rap aspects of the song also the melody in this is really juvenile, which is why amish paradise was made as parody <cite>FighterStreet2 posted [p:927533560] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>He thinks rap doesn't have melody lol!</quote> Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_BbfpHfEcA" data-time="</quote> once again, the part he is playing has nothing to do with that rap aspects of the song also the melody in this is really juvenile, which is why amish paradise was made as parody</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 09/16/19 7:11:44 PM #66:	Taharqa_ posted... This is Ben Shapiro as a teenager, nuff said. Lmao is that really him? I've seen that picture before. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:927533584] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted...</cite> <quote>This is Ben Shapiro as a teenager, nuff said. </quote> Lmao is that really him? I've seen that picture before.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 09/16/19 7:13:48 PM #67:	FighterStreet2 posted... the part he is playing has nothing to do with the part part of the song also the melody in this is really juvenile, which is why amish paradise was made as parody So for rap not be me music are you literally saying we have to take parts of the song out. Do you know how crazy that sounds . --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:927533669] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>the part he is playing has nothing to do with the part part of the song also the melody in this is really juvenile, which is why amish paradise was made as parody</quote> So for rap not be me music are you literally saying we have to take parts of the song out. Do you know how crazy that sounds .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 09/16/19 7:15:00 PM #68:	FighterStreet2 posted... knutjob posted... FighterStreet2 posted... Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Di5C82-5s" data-time=" the part he is playing is not the rap part of the song. "Music isn't music unless a person is singing" ^explain what is incorrect about that statement so that I know you disagree with it. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:927533723] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted... </cite> <quote>Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Di5C82-5s" data-time=" </quote> the part he is playing is not the rap part of the song.</quote> "Music isn't music unless a person is singing" ^explain what is incorrect about that statement so that I know you disagree with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 09/16/19 7:19:35 PM #69:	Why does he comment on so much random shit, and why do people constantly react to him commenting on it? <cite>nemu posted [p:927533897] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Why does he comment on so much random shit, and why do people constantly react to him commenting on it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VerisimiIitude 09/16/19 7:23:58 PM #70:	Did I some how wind up back in 2006? --- Onyx87 Feel the love... <cite>VerisimiIitude posted [p:927534111] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Did I some how wind up back in 2006?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FighterStreet2 09/16/19 7:26:11 PM #71:	Machete posted... FighterStreet2 posted... knutjob posted... FighterStreet2 posted... Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Di5C82-5s" data-time=" the part he is playing is not the rap part of the song. "Music isn't music unless a person is singing" ^explain what is incorrect about that statement so that I know you disagree with it. it has nothing to do with singing. you literally are putting words in my mouth and refuse to understand my original post. <cite>FighterStreet2 posted [p:927534205] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted... </cite> <quote>Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Di5C82-5s" data-time=" </quote> the part he is playing is not the rap part of the song.</quote> "Music isn't music unless a person is singing" ^explain what is incorrect about that statement so that I know you disagree with it.</quote> it has nothing to do with singing. you literally are putting words in my mouth and refuse to understand my original post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 09/16/19 7:27:31 PM #72:	I remember making this same argument when I went into an anti rap phase in high school --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:927534255] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>I remember making this same argument when I went into an anti rap phase in high school </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 09/16/19 7:29:10 PM #74:	nemu posted... Why does he comment on so much random shit, and why do people constantly react to him commenting on it? Knee jerk reactions to innocuous and/or irrelevant statements for the sake of it is what the internet is for. Sharpio baited and cast and got more fish in one haul than Jesus himself lol --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:927534310] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>nemu posted... </cite> <quote>Why does he comment on so much random shit, and why do people constantly react to him commenting on it?</quote>Knee jerk reactions to innocuous and/or irrelevant statements for the sake of it is what the internet is for. Sharpio baited and cast and got more fish in one haul than Jesus himself lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 09/16/19 7:30:23 PM #75:	The fuck is a music theorist? I mean I know music theory is a thing, but...is this a profession? A hobby? --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:927534370] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>The fuck is a music theorist? I mean I know music theory is a thing, but...is this a profession? A hobby?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FighterStreet2 09/16/19 7:33:43 PM #76:	cjsdowg posted... FighterStreet2 posted... the part he is playing has nothing to do with the part part of the song also the melody in this is really juvenile, which is why amish paradise was made as parody So for rap not be me music are you literally saying we have to take parts of the song out. Do you know how crazy that sounds . it sounds crazy when you reword something and change the meaning behind the original sentence. Once again, a song may be labeled as a rap song. Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop. That song may have music, melody, and rhythm etc and can be classified as music The actual rap in the song, however, is not music. It has components of music (rhythm) but alone is really just talking to a beat. Most rappers are not musicians and have no capability of writing other genres of music. they are often featured on other genres of music to do their rap section of a song. There are some notable exceptions of rappers who can do serviceable singing, but even these few do not write actual songs. <cite>FighterStreet2 posted [p:927534487] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>the part he is playing has nothing to do with the part part of the song also the melody in this is really juvenile, which is why amish paradise was made as parody</quote> So for rap not be me music are you literally saying we have to take parts of the song out. Do you know how crazy that sounds .</quote> it sounds crazy when you reword something and change the meaning behind the original sentence. Once again, a song may be labeled as a rap song. Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop. That song may have music, melody, and rhythm etc and can be classified as music The actual rap in the song, however, is not music. It has components of music (rhythm) but alone is really just talking to a beat. Most rappers are not musicians and have no capability of writing other genres of music. they are often featured on other genres of music to do their rap section of a song. There are some notable exceptions of rappers who can do serviceable singing, but even these few do not write actual songs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hanky_Bannister 09/16/19 7:35:53 PM #78:	theres a lot of ridic comments itt imagine thinking rap isnt music --- "3rd Best Whiskey in Northern Burma" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvjOu4EzjYg <cite>Hanky_Bannister posted [p:927534577] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>theres a lot of ridic comments itt imagine thinking rap isnt music</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctaviaMelody30 09/16/19 7:36:46 PM #80:	I think it's real music but the majority of it is really bad. --- Always. <cite>OctaviaMelody30 posted [p:927534614] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>I think it's real music but the majority of it is really bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FighterStreet2 09/16/19 7:37:43 PM #81:	16-BITTER posted... FighterStreet2 posted... Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop. Holy moly in terms of mainstream music? Yeah. also still trying to dodge the entire point of the post <cite>FighterStreet2 posted [p:927534652] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop.</quote> Holy moly</quote> in terms of mainstream music? Yeah. also still trying to dodge the entire point of the post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HasaDiga 09/16/19 7:37:52 PM #82:	What a world we live in.... People care about an entertainers' political point of view. People care about a politician/lawyers point of view on entertainment. So mindless... <cite>HasaDiga posted [p:927534657] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>What a world we live in.... People care about an entertainers' political point of view. People care about a politician/lawyers point of view on entertainment. So mindless...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FighterStreet2 09/16/19 7:39:19 PM #83:	HasaDiga posted... What a world we live in.... People care about an entertainers' political point of view. People care about a politician/lawyers point of view on entertainment. So mindless... It isn't really just Ben Shapiro's opinion. Anyone born before 80s will pretty much agree, and anyone with an actual background in writing music will agree for the most part. <cite>FighterStreet2 posted [p:927534718] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>HasaDiga posted...</cite> <quote>What a world we live in.... People care about an entertainers' political point of view. People care about a politician/lawyers point of view on entertainment. So mindless...</quote> It isn't really just Ben Shapiro's opinion. Anyone born before 80s will pretty much agree, and anyone with an actual background in writing music will agree for the most part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 09/16/19 7:40:31 PM #84:	FighterStreet2 posted... HasaDiga posted... What a world we live in.... People care about an entertainers' political point of view. People care about a politician/lawyers point of view on entertainment. So mindless... It isn't really just Ben Shapiro's opinion. Anyone born before 80s will pretty much agree, and anyone with an actual background in writing music will agree for the most part. More lies. Just, so many lies. --- "A guy talking into the camera about politics? My favorite." - Phantom_Nook Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:927534762] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>HasaDiga posted...</cite> <quote>What a world we live in.... People care about an entertainers' political point of view. People care about a politician/lawyers point of view on entertainment. So mindless...</quote> It isn't really just Ben Shapiro's opinion. Anyone born before 80s will pretty much agree, and anyone with an actual background in writing music will agree for the most part.</quote> More lies. Just, so many lies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kickflip 09/16/19 7:42:02 PM #86:	It's not 2009 anymore, what kind of stupid take is this? lol --- https://i.imgtc.ws/LdL3cXu.jpg https://i.imgtc.com/EXJmSZF.gif <cite>Kickflip posted [p:927534820] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>It's not 2009 anymore, what kind of stupid take is this? lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 09/16/19 7:42:48 PM #87:	OctaviaMelody30 posted... I think it's real music but the majority of it is really bad. Majority of every genre is bad --- https://imgur.com/O5APL http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:927534858] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>OctaviaMelody30 posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's real music but the majority of it is really bad.</quote> Majority of every genre is bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FighterStreet2 09/16/19 7:49:23 PM #88:	16-BITTER posted... FighterStreet2 posted... 16-BITTER posted... FighterStreet2 posted... Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop. Holy moly in terms of mainstream music? Yeah. also still trying to dodge the entire point of the post Please provide examples of "pure rap" songs that aren't hip hop. There is no purpose continuing a conversation if you yourself do not provide any arguments nor respond to anything I have said. Your mind won't be changed, and that's not my problem. Continue to listen to rap while anyone educated is silently judging you. There is a reason why this topic has appeared time and time again on CE as well as other internet forums. It's an extremely commonly held opinion. You can say "I don't give a shit what anyone thinks" but if that were true you wouldnt be here. <cite>FighterStreet2 posted [p:927535113] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>16-BITTER posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop.</quote> Holy moly</quote> in terms of mainstream music? Yeah. also still trying to dodge the entire point of the post</quote> Please provide examples of "pure rap" songs that aren't hip hop.</quote> There is no purpose continuing a conversation if you yourself do not provide any arguments nor respond to anything I have said. Your mind won't be changed, and that's not my problem. Continue to listen to rap while anyone educated is silently judging you. There is a reason why this topic has appeared time and time again on CE as well as other internet forums. It's an extremely commonly held opinion. You can say "I don't give a shit what anyone thinks" but if that were true you wouldnt be here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TroutPaste 09/16/19 7:49:26 PM #89:	pauIie posted... OctaviaMelody30 posted... I think it's real music but the majority of it is really bad. Majority of every genre is bad --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/4leaf440/ https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:927535114] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>pauIie posted...</cite> <quote>OctaviaMelody30 posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's real music but the majority of it is really bad.</quote> Majority of every genre is bad</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 09/16/19 7:55:14 PM #91:	Taharqa_ posted... This is Ben Shapiro as a teenager, nuff said. lmaooo --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:927535310] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Taharqa_ posted...</cite> <quote>This is Ben Shapiro as a teenager, nuff said. </quote> lmaooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crepes 09/16/19 7:56:48 PM #92:	Shapiro trying as hard as possible to stay relevant. I forgot he existed tbh so it worked to some extent. I imagine next hell do some sort of holocaust denial / anti Semitic gaff which will get him loads more attention. --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard <cite>Crepes posted [p:927535373] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Shapiro trying as hard as possible to stay relevant. I forgot he existed tbh so it worked to some extent. I imagine next hell do some sort of holocaust denial / anti Semitic gaff which will get him loads more attention.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacDaMurderer 09/16/19 8:08:03 PM #93:	FighterStreet2 posted... it sounds crazy when you reword something and change the meaning behind the original sentence. Once again, a song may be labeled as a rap song. Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop. That song may have music, melody, and rhythm etc and can be classified as music The actual rap in the song, however, is not music. It has components of music (rhythm) but alone is really just talking to a beat. Most rappers are not musicians and have no capability of writing other genres of music. they are often featured on other genres of music to do their rap section of a song. There are some notable exceptions of rappers who can do serviceable singing, but even these few do not write actual songs. You probably should not speak on things you dont know. --- @macdamurderer GT: Mac Da Murderer <cite>MacDaMurderer posted [p:927535851] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted... </cite> <quote>it sounds crazy when you reword something and change the meaning behind the original sentence. Once again, a song may be labeled as a rap song. Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop. That song may have music, melody, and rhythm etc and can be classified as music The actual rap in the song, however, is not music. It has components of music (rhythm) but alone is really just talking to a beat. Most rappers are not musicians and have no capability of writing other genres of music. they are often featured on other genres of music to do their rap section of a song. There are some notable exceptions of rappers who can do serviceable singing, but even these few do not write actual songs.</quote> You probably should not speak on things you dont know. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FighterStreet2 09/16/19 8:09:27 PM #94:	MacDaMurderer posted... FighterStreet2 posted... it sounds crazy when you reword something and change the meaning behind the original sentence. Once again, a song may be labeled as a rap song. Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop. That song may have music, melody, and rhythm etc and can be classified as music The actual rap in the song, however, is not music. It has components of music (rhythm) but alone is really just talking to a beat. Most rappers are not musicians and have no capability of writing other genres of music. they are often featured on other genres of music to do their rap section of a song. There are some notable exceptions of rappers who can do serviceable singing, but even these few do not write actual songs. You probably should not speak on things you dont know. You should probably try to use actual logic (and provide an argument) instead of attacking someones character to make a point. <cite>FighterStreet2 posted [p:927535932] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>MacDaMurderer posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted... </cite> <quote>it sounds crazy when you reword something and change the meaning behind the original sentence. Once again, a song may be labeled as a rap song. Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop. That song may have music, melody, and rhythm etc and can be classified as music The actual rap in the song, however, is not music. It has components of music (rhythm) but alone is really just talking to a beat. Most rappers are not musicians and have no capability of writing other genres of music. they are often featured on other genres of music to do their rap section of a song. There are some notable exceptions of rappers who can do serviceable singing, but even these few do not write actual songs.</quote> You probably should not speak on things you dont know. </quote> You should probably try to use actual logic (and provide an argument) instead of attacking someones character to make a point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 09/16/19 8:12:21 PM #95:	FighterStreet2 posted... MacDaMurderer posted... FighterStreet2 posted... it sounds crazy when you reword something and change the meaning behind the original sentence. Once again, a song may be labeled as a rap song. Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop. That song may have music, melody, and rhythm etc and can be classified as music The actual rap in the song, however, is not music. It has components of music (rhythm) but alone is really just talking to a beat. Most rappers are not musicians and have no capability of writing other genres of music. they are often featured on other genres of music to do their rap section of a song. There are some notable exceptions of rappers who can do serviceable singing, but even these few do not write actual songs. You probably should not speak on things you dont know. You should probably try to use actual logic (and provide an argument) instead of attacking someones character to make a point. That post where you shittily knowingly misconstrued "rap" to just mean vocals was stupid --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:927536072] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>MacDaMurderer posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted... </cite> <quote>it sounds crazy when you reword something and change the meaning behind the original sentence. Once again, a song may be labeled as a rap song. Nowadays, there are very few pure rap songs most are really just hip hop. That song may have music, melody, and rhythm etc and can be classified as music The actual rap in the song, however, is not music. It has components of music (rhythm) but alone is really just talking to a beat. Most rappers are not musicians and have no capability of writing other genres of music. they are often featured on other genres of music to do their rap section of a song. There are some notable exceptions of rappers who can do serviceable singing, but even these few do not write actual songs.</quote> You probably should not speak on things you dont know. </quote> You should probably try to use actual logic (and provide an argument) instead of attacking someones character to make a point.</quote> That post where you shittily knowingly misconstrued "rap" to just mean vocals was stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerKhan420 09/16/19 8:15:16 PM #96:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LividAnWrIs" data-time=" --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 <cite>KillerKhan420 posted [p:927536206] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LividAnWrIs" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HasaDiga 09/16/19 8:19:54 PM #97:	I can't stand rap unless it's like ERB. I won't say it doesn't require talent, it just isn't for me. <cite>HasaDiga posted [p:927536410] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>I can't stand rap unless it's like ERB. I won't say it doesn't require talent, it just isn't for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vermander 09/16/19 8:21:39 PM #98:	Id be interested to see what he would say about metalcore, specifically pieces where the instruments intentionally sound dissonant and the vocals are all screaming/growling. --- Remember kids, Jesus died for your sins. So if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing. <cite>Vermander posted [p:927536507] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>Id be interested to see what he would say about metalcore, specifically pieces where the instruments intentionally sound dissonant and the vocals are all screaming/growling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 09/16/19 8:22:40 PM #99:	FighterStreet2 posted... Machete posted... FighterStreet2 posted... knutjob posted... FighterStreet2 posted... Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Di5C82-5s" data-time=" the part he is playing is not the rap part of the song. "Music isn't music unless a person is singing" ^explain what is incorrect about that statement so that I know you disagree with it. it has nothing to do with singing. you literally are putting words in my mouth and refuse to understand my original post. okay. Explain why rap isn't music (unless you do believe that it is, in which case I must have misunderstood you and my bad if so) --- https://talktotransformer.com The Internet is kind of the whole ****ing Internet. <cite>Machete posted [p:927536553] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>Machete posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted...</cite> <quote>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote>FighterStreet2 posted... </cite> <quote>Rap doesnt have melody. There are melodies IN rap songs when they arent rapping Rapping itself is not music. neither are lyrics nor the meanings behind those lyrics. At some point you have to ask your 'what exactly is music'. If you are having a conversation with someone is that music? I think most would say no. Now is rapping legitimate art? Yea. But it's closer to conversation. If you cant play something on an instrument, it's not music. Playing a rap song on the piano would amount to hitting same key over and over to a beat</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Di5C82-5s" data-time=" </quote> the part he is playing is not the rap part of the song.</quote> "Music isn't music unless a person is singing" ^explain what is incorrect about that statement so that I know you disagree with it.</quote> it has nothing to do with singing. you literally are putting words in my mouth and refuse to understand my original post.</quote> okay. Explain why rap isn't music (unless you do believe that it is, in which case I must have misunderstood you and my bad if so)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 09/16/19 8:23:28 PM #100:	HasaDiga posted... I can't stand rap unless it's like ERB. I won't say it doesn't require talent, it just isn't for me. see this is a quality post --- https://i.imgtc.com/hB9W4JK.gif You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:927536594] in Ben Shapir... [t:78019087]...</cite> <quote>HasaDiga posted...</cite> <quote>I can't stand rap unless it's like ERB. I won't say it doesn't require talent, it just isn't for me.</quote> see this is a quality post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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