Poll of the Day > Nebraska is RAISING TAXES to pay 30 MILLION to SIX People who went to PRISON!!!

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Full Throttle 09/13/19 1:26:57 AM #1:	Do you think it's fair to make the residents cough up 30 million to the people who were wrongfully convicted? - Results (3 votes) Yes 33.33% (1 vote) 1 No, it should be split between the residents and the government 0% (0 votes) 0 No, the government should be the one footing the bill 66.67% (2 votes) 2 I don't think they should be obligated to pay that much to begin with. Should be much less 0% (0 votes) 0 A Nebraska County that owes over 30 million smackers to SIX people who were wrongly convicted of RAPE and MURDER will RAISE TAXES to foot the bill!! The Gage County Board of Supervisors voted 7-0 to impose a new half-cent sales tax that will generate 1.3 million annually to cover the county's debt Known as "Beatrice Six",,they were wrongfully convicted for the rape and murder of Helen Wilson who was 68 when she died in 1985 They spent more than 75 years COMBINED in prison until DNA cleared them in 2008 They sued the hell out of the county and alleged they ran a reckless investigation and a federal jury awarded them 28.1 million in 2016 with interest and legal feestaking the total to over 30 million The Supreme Court rejected a last ditch appeal by the county in March against the compensation ruling Wilson's death was linked to a former resident who died in 1992 Joseph White, Thomas Winslow, Ada JoAnn Taylor, Debra Sheldon, James Dean and Kathy Gonzalez were charged Joseph was killed in factory accident in 2011, about less than 3 years after freedom The civil rights lawsuit in 2009 said law enfnorcement recklessly strove to close the case despite contradictory evidence and coerced false confessions Dean, Taylor and Sheldon had psychological problems and testified they broke into her apartment where they lived to rob her At a court hearing, White and Winslow attacked her in bed and raped her as others looked on before Taylor put a pillow over heard to suffocate her White was convicted and the remaining 5 took plea baragains for lesser sentences But in 2008, DNA testing and semen evidence in her apartment tied it to Bruce Allen Smith who died in a Oklahoma Prison in 1992 and was the true attacker when he passed through town that night as a former friend told police he dropped Smith off who was drunk that night The judgement of 28.1 million represented more than 3 times the annual budget since the county is only 22,311 The county is mostly rural farmland as State Senator, Myron Dorn said roughly half of the burden will fall on land rich farmers whose incomes have fallen cause of low crop prices Homeowners will also feel the pinch as an owner of 100,000 homes will pay $120 more in property taxes until the county pays off its debt. Construction and other projects will now be off the table as that could have helped the economy but some argued the state should shoulder some of the burden because they threatened the 6 with death if they did not admit fault Many residents say it's unfair cause they weren't responsible for the conviction as others say they didn't even live there when it happened Art Niefled who owns farmland said "I sure didn't have anything to do with it" The new tax is intended to ease the burden and allow them to pay it off in 6 years instead of 8 Do you think it's fair that the people have to cough up 30 million to pay for these wrongful conviction charges? Innocent - Joseph - Deceased Helen - Murdered Bruce - Real Murderer who is now Dead --- call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. A GFAQS User Steps On A Bug, I'll Stop Posting for 48 HOURS. THIS ACCOUNT ONLY!! I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right <cite>Full Throttle posted [p:927368688] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote> Do you think it's fair to make the residents cough up 30 million to the people who were wrongfully convicted? - Results (3 votes) Yes 33.33% (1 vote) 1 No, it should be split between the residents and the government 0% (0 votes) 0 No, the government should be the one footing the bill 66.67% (2 votes) 2 I don't think they should be obligated to pay that much to begin with. Should be much less 0% (0 votes) 0 A Nebraska County that owes over 30 million smackers to SIX people who were wrongly convicted of RAPE and MURDER will RAISE TAXES to foot the bill!! The Gage County Board of Supervisors voted 7-0 to impose a new half-cent sales tax that will generate 1.3 million annually to cover the county's debt Known as "Beatrice Six",,they were wrongfully convicted for the rape and murder of Helen Wilson who was 68 when she died in 1985 They spent more than 75 years COMBINED in prison until DNA cleared them in 2008 They sued the hell out of the county and alleged they ran a reckless investigation and a federal jury awarded them 28.1 million in 2016 with interest and legal feestaking the total to over 30 million The Supreme Court rejected a last ditch appeal by the county in March against the compensation ruling Wilson's death was linked to a former resident who died in 1992 Joseph White, Thomas Winslow, Ada JoAnn Taylor, Debra Sheldon, James Dean and Kathy Gonzalez were charged Joseph was killed in factory accident in 2011, about less than 3 years after freedom The civil rights lawsuit in 2009 said law enfnorcement recklessly strove to close the case despite contradictory evidence and coerced false confessions Dean, Taylor and Sheldon had psychological problems and testified they broke into her apartment where they lived to rob her At a court hearing, White and Winslow attacked her in bed and raped her as others looked on before Taylor put a pillow over heard to suffocate her White was convicted and the remaining 5 took plea baragains for lesser sentences But in 2008, DNA testing and semen evidence in her apartment tied it to Bruce Allen Smith who died in a Oklahoma Prison in 1992 and was the true attacker when he passed through town that night as a former friend told police he dropped Smith off who was drunk that night The judgement of 28.1 million represented more than 3 times the annual budget since the county is only 22,311 The county is mostly rural farmland as State Senator, Myron Dorn said roughly half of the burden will fall on land rich farmers whose incomes have fallen cause of low crop prices Homeowners will also feel the pinch as an owner of 100,000 homes will pay $120 more in property taxes until the county pays off its debt. Construction and other projects will now be off the table as that could have helped the economy but some argued the state should shoulder some of the burden because they threatened the 6 with death if they did not admit fault Many residents say it's unfair cause they weren't responsible for the conviction as others say they didn't even live there when it happened Art Niefled who owns farmland said "I sure didn't have anything to do with it" The new tax is intended to ease the burden and allow them to pay it off in 6 years instead of 8 Do you think it's fair that the people have to cough up 30 million to pay for these wrongful conviction charges? Innocent - Joseph - Deceased Helen - Murdered Bruce - Real Murderer who is now Dead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aaantlion 09/13/19 1:34:08 AM #2:	Whenever anybody sues the government, taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah, it sucks, but what else can you do? Are you going to not compensate people whose lives the government ruined? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| <cite>Aaantlion posted [p:927368854] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Whenever anybody sues the government, taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah, it sucks, but what else can you do? Are you going to not compensate people whose lives the government ruined?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 09/13/19 1:40:29 AM #3:	Hopefully stuff like this will one day get people to stop voting on "tough on crime" and start favoring people who are primarily concerned with justice. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:927369020] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully stuff like this will one day get people to stop voting on "tough on crime" and start favoring people who are primarily concerned with justice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bulbasaur 09/13/19 1:40:30 AM #4:	Aaantlion posted... lmao dude you need to chill --- i'm in disguise <cite>Bulbasaur posted [p:927369021] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> lmao dude you need to chill</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HelIWithoutSin 09/13/19 2:02:20 AM #6:	Bulbasaur posted... lmao dude you need to chill You're just a bit behind. He's had another alt banned since then. --- And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer. -Hans Gruber <cite>HelIWithoutSin posted [p:927369533] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>lmao dude you need to chill</quote> You're just a bit behind. He's had another alt banned since then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aaantlion 09/13/19 2:21:12 AM #7:	BlackScythe0 posted... Hopefully stuff like this will one day get people to stop voting on "tough on crime" and start favoring people who are primarily concerned with justice. When you have a violent crime, there's a lot of pressure to get it solved. This case is hardly a matter of a "tough on crime" mindset. Bulbasaur posted... Aaantlion posted... lmao dude you need to chill Did you see the post that got modded? HelIWithoutSin posted... Bulbasaur posted... lmao dude you need to chill You're just a bit behind. He's had another alt banned since then. It's suspended, not banned. However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| <cite>Aaantlion posted [p:927369978] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Hopefully stuff like this will one day get people to stop voting on "tough on crime" and start favoring people who are primarily concerned with justice.</quote> When you have a violent crime, there's a lot of pressure to get it solved. This case is hardly a matter of a "tough on crime" mindset. Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> lmao dude you need to chill</quote> Did you see the post that got modded? HelIWithoutSin posted...</cite> <quote>Bulbasaur posted...</cite> <quote>lmao dude you need to chill</quote> You're just a bit behind. He's had another alt banned since then.</quote> It's suspended, not banned. However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/13/19 2:23:13 AM #8:	Aaantlion posted... Whenever anybody sues the government, taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah, it sucks, but what else can you do? Are you going to not compensate people whose lives the government ruined? They could be made to cut funding that doesn't benefit the public to pay the debt, thus no tax rise and less government corruption. But obviously that won't happen in the US. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927370027] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>Whenever anybody sues the government, taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah, it sucks, but what else can you do? Are you going to not compensate people whose lives the government ruined?</quote> They could be made to cut funding that doesn't benefit the public to pay the debt, thus no tax rise and less government corruption. But obviously that won't happen in the US.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aaantlion 09/13/19 2:30:48 AM #9:	BlackScythe0 posted... Hopefully stuff like this will one day get people to stop voting on "tough on crime" and start favoring people who are primarily concerned with justice. When you have a violent crime, there's a lot of pressure to get it solved. This case is hardly a matter of a "tough on crime" mindset (which is something you hear about more in cities). You had people in a rush to solve a case and either didn't care that some of the facts didn't fit or decided to outright fabricate things. If you want justice above everything else, you'd also need to change the role of the media and society at large which demand fast results at the cost of accuracy. Kyuubi4269 posted... Aaantlion posted... Whenever anybody sues the government, taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah, it sucks, but what else can you do? Are you going to not compensate people whose lives the government ruined? They could be made to cut funding that doesn't benefit the public to pay the debt, thus no tax rise and less government corruption. But obviously that won't happen in the US. ...but where's that funding coming from? No matter what, taxpayers are being hurt. Even if you took money from business taxes instead of income taxes, money would wind up being diverted from income taxes to make up the gap. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| <cite>Aaantlion posted [p:927370191] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted...</cite> <quote>Hopefully stuff like this will one day get people to stop voting on "tough on crime" and start favoring people who are primarily concerned with justice.</quote> When you have a violent crime, there's a lot of pressure to get it solved. This case is hardly a matter of a "tough on crime" mindset (which is something you hear about more in cities). You had people in a rush to solve a case and either didn't care that some of the facts didn't fit or decided to outright fabricate things. If you want justice above everything else, you'd also need to change the role of the media and society at large which demand fast results at the cost of accuracy. Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>Whenever anybody sues the government, taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah, it sucks, but what else can you do? Are you going to not compensate people whose lives the government ruined?</quote> They could be made to cut funding that doesn't benefit the public to pay the debt, thus no tax rise and less government corruption. But obviously that won't happen in the US.</quote> ...but where's that funding coming from? No matter what, taxpayers are being hurt. Even if you took money from business taxes instead of income taxes, money would wind up being diverted from income taxes to make up the gap.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HelIWithoutSin 09/13/19 2:37:53 AM #10:	Aaantlion posted... It's suspended, not banned. Just give it time. Aaantlion posted... However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you. Whoa, that's fast. It makes me think of those guys in parades that have to follow right behind the horses and immediately clean up the shit they leave behind. --- And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer. -Hans Gruber <cite>HelIWithoutSin posted [p:927370345] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>It's suspended, not banned.</quote> Just give it time. Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you.</quote> Whoa, that's fast. It makes me think of those guys in parades that have to follow right behind the horses and immediately clean up the shit they leave behind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/13/19 2:38:39 AM #11:	Aaantlion posted... ...but where's that funding coming from? No matter what, taxpayers are being hurt. Even if you took money from business taxes instead of income taxes, money would wind up being diverted from income taxes to make up the gap. Take it out of special interest policies, intentionally raise tax specifically on the bands lobbyists came from. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927370359] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>...but where's that funding coming from? No matter what, taxpayers are being hurt. Even if you took money from business taxes instead of income taxes, money would wind up being diverted from income taxes to make up the gap.</quote> Take it out of special interest policies, intentionally raise tax specifically on the bands lobbyists came from.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/13/19 2:51:11 AM #12:	Another false rape charge that ruined lives of not just those falsely persecuted but if the whole state? --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:927370599] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Another false rape charge that ruined lives of not just those falsely persecuted but if the whole state?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aaantlion 09/13/19 2:51:48 AM #13:	HelIWithoutSin posted... Aaantlion posted... However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you. Whoa, that's fast. It makes me think of those guys in parades that have to follow right behind the horses and immediately clean up the shit they leave behind. That's the kind of post that could get a guy warned. Kyuubi4269 posted... Aaantlion posted... ...but where's that funding coming from? No matter what, taxpayers are being hurt. Even if you took money from business taxes instead of income taxes, money would wind up being diverted from income taxes to make up the gap. Take it out of special interest policies, intentionally raise tax specifically on the bands lobbyists came from. ...what? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| <cite>Aaantlion posted [p:927370616] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>HelIWithoutSin posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you.</quote> Whoa, that's fast. It makes me think of those guys in parades that have to follow right behind the horses and immediately clean up the shit they leave behind.</quote> That's the kind of post that could get a guy warned. Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>...but where's that funding coming from? No matter what, taxpayers are being hurt. Even if you took money from business taxes instead of income taxes, money would wind up being diverted from income taxes to make up the gap.</quote> Take it out of special interest policies, intentionally raise tax specifically on the bands lobbyists came from.</quote> ...what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aaantlion 09/13/19 3:00:12 AM #14:	deoxxys posted... Another false rape charge that ruined lives of not just those falsely persecuted but if the whole state? There was clearly a victim, they just prosecuted the wrong people. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| <cite>Aaantlion posted [p:927370800] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted...</cite> <quote>Another false rape charge that ruined lives of not just those falsely persecuted but if the whole state?</quote> There was clearly a victim, they just prosecuted the wrong people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HelIWithoutSin 09/13/19 3:02:26 AM #15:	Aaantlion posted... That's the kind of post that could get a guy warned. Aww yeah! Zeus is playing his greatest hits. Do "It Wasn't Me, It Was Mead" next. --- And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer. -Hans Gruber <cite>HelIWithoutSin posted [p:927370850] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>That's the kind of post that could get a guy warned. </quote> Aww yeah! Zeus is playing his greatest hits. Do "It Wasn't Me, It Was Mead" next.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrangeDawn 09/13/19 4:47:55 AM #16:	HelIWithoutSin posted... Aaantlion posted... However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you. Whoa, that's fast. It makes me think of those guys in parades that have to follow right behind the horses and immediately clean up the shit they leave behind. Holy fuck lmfao --- 3DS Friend Code: 3308-5843-0863 Town: Virginia <cite>OrangeDawn posted [p:927372388] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>HelIWithoutSin posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you.</quote> Whoa, that's fast. It makes me think of those guys in parades that have to follow right behind the horses and immediately clean up the shit they leave behind.</quote> Holy fuck lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad_Max 09/13/19 5:56:21 AM #17:	OrangeDawn posted... HelIWithoutSin posted... Aaantlion posted... However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you. Whoa, that's fast. It makes me think of those guys in parades that have to follow right behind the horses and immediately clean up the shit they leave behind. Holy fuck lmfao --- Terminal Crazy https://imgur.com/R9TrmGD <cite>Mad_Max posted [p:927373403] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>OrangeDawn posted...</cite> <quote>HelIWithoutSin posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you.</quote> Whoa, that's fast. It makes me think of those guys in parades that have to follow right behind the horses and immediately clean up the shit they leave behind.</quote> Holy fuck lmfao</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/13/19 7:11:06 AM #18:	They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up. --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:927374655] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaqthourne 09/13/19 7:30:13 AM #19:	Seems to me that the prosecuting team should be the ones who should pay. And it's not Nebraska that's raising taxes. It's the county. --- Montreal Expos (1969-2004) http://www.backloggery.com/Blaqthourne Now playing: Lunar: The Silver Star (SCD) -- started 8/20/2019 <cite>Blaqthourne posted [p:927375056] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Seems to me that the prosecuting team should be the ones who should pay. And it's not Nebraska that's raising taxes. It's the county.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/13/19 7:44:49 AM #20:	SunWuKung420 posted... They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up. Punishments are about punishing the accused, not sating the victim. The fine money has to go somewhere and the government can't just pay itself for its misdeeds so all of the funds must go to the victim. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927375356] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up.</quote> Punishments are about punishing the accused, not sating the victim. The fine money has to go somewhere and the government can't just pay itself for its misdeeds so all of the funds must go to the victim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 09/13/19 7:47:02 AM #21:	SunWuKung420 posted... They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up. Compensation is a complex matter but it's not just how much income they could've made, but the loss of livelihood, loss of opportunity, etc... --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:927375422] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up.</quote> Compensation is a complex matter but it's not just how much income they could've made, but the loss of livelihood, loss of opportunity, etc... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 09/13/19 7:48:07 AM #22:	SunWuKung420 posted... They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up. Are you really implying that all that people should be paid when they have been falsely convicted/imprisoned is missed wages? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:927375443] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up.</quote> Are you really implying that all that people should be paid when they have been falsely convicted/imprisoned is missed wages?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/13/19 7:49:13 AM #23:	gloBal enemy posted... SunWuKung420 posted... They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up. Compensation is a complex matter but it's not just how much income they could've made, but the loss of livelihood, loss of opportunity, etc... 1mil is twice what they could have made. The 5 million is so the lawyer gets a huge paycheck. --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:927375462] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>gloBal enemy posted...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up.</quote> Compensation is a complex matter but it's not just how much income they could've made, but the loss of livelihood, loss of opportunity, etc... </quote> 1mil is twice what they could have made. The 5 million is so the lawyer gets a huge paycheck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad_Max 09/13/19 8:00:08 AM #24:	SunWuKung420 posted... gloBal enemy posted... SunWuKung420 posted... They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up. Compensation is a complex matter but it's not just how much income they could've made, but the loss of livelihood, loss of opportunity, etc... 1mil is twice what they could have made. The 5 million is so the lawyer gets a huge paycheck. Lawyers make a percentage. No matter the amount, they'll get their fee. All the more reason to raise the payout amount. Ensure more money is going to the actual victims of false imprisonment. --- Terminal Crazy https://imgur.com/R9TrmGD <cite>Mad_Max posted [p:927375668] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>gloBal enemy posted...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up.</quote> Compensation is a complex matter but it's not just how much income they could've made, but the loss of livelihood, loss of opportunity, etc... </quote> 1mil is twice what they could have made. The 5 million is so the lawyer gets a huge paycheck.</quote> Lawyers make a percentage. No matter the amount, they'll get their fee. All the more reason to raise the payout amount. Ensure more money is going to the actual victims of false imprisonment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 09/13/19 8:06:46 AM #25:	SunWuKung420 posted... 1mil is twice what they could have made. The 5 million is so the lawyer gets a huge paycheck. It means their lawyers were able to negotiate a great settlement and seeing they get a % cut, the system of aligning their interests with whom they're representing has worked. I'm not saying it hasn't led to an unjust outcome, but I'm saying that the lawyers were definitely incentivised to find the best deal for their client... something which isn't always true for principal/agent relationships. As for it being relative to what they could've made, that's a moot point. You've also only considered known income sources, etc. and more importantly, it's loss of livelihood. For all we know they could've been harassed or beaten up in prison, they could've lost relationships, missed key milestones in a family member's life, mental anguish/anxiety issues, etc... a million possible reasons which would help justify the compensation. If it were me in that position, I'd be demanding a shedload of compensation. At the end of the day, the government and the prosecutors made a choice in how they allocate their resources to fight crime/prosecute/etc... in this case, they made the wrong choice and have to pay the penalty/cost for it. Unfortunately their income is everyone else's taxes and that's how it all flows. At least the money wasn't going to unemployment benefits... --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:927375804] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>1mil is twice what they could have made. The 5 million is so the lawyer gets a huge paycheck.</quote> It means their lawyers were able to negotiate a great settlement and seeing they get a % cut, the system of aligning their interests with whom they're representing has worked. I'm not saying it hasn't led to an unjust outcome, but I'm saying that the lawyers were definitely incentivised to find the best deal for their client... something which isn't always true for principal/agent relationships. As for it being relative to what they could've made, that's a moot point. You've also only considered known income sources, etc. and more importantly, it's loss of livelihood. For all we know they could've been harassed or beaten up in prison, they could've lost relationships, missed key milestones in a family member's life, mental anguish/anxiety issues, etc... a million possible reasons which would help justify the compensation. If it were me in that position, I'd be demanding a shedload of compensation. At the end of the day, the government and the prosecutors made a choice in how they allocate their resources to fight crime/prosecute/etc... in this case, they made the wrong choice and have to pay the penalty/cost for it. Unfortunately their income is everyone else's taxes and that's how it all flows. At least the money wasn't going to unemployment benefits... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 09/13/19 9:02:04 AM #26:	Yeah, "the government should foot the bill", but where do you think the government gets money from? Moral of the story, don't wrongfully convict people. Someone involved in the legal process screwed up. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:927377097] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, "the government should foot the bill", but where do you think the government gets money from? Moral of the story, don't wrongfully convict people. Someone involved in the legal process screwed up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 09/13/19 10:46:13 AM #27:	HelIWithoutSin posted... Aaantlion posted... It's suspended, not banned. Just give it time. Aaantlion posted... However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you. Whoa, that's fast. It makes me think of those guys in parades that have to follow right behind the horses and immediately clean up the shit they leave behind. Yeah but more like a cop that follows you everywhere you go and also makes up his own rules when he sees youre doing everything you should be just to fine you. --- I'm right, as expected. <cite>zebatov posted [p:927380502] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>HelIWithoutSin posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>It's suspended, not banned.</quote> Just give it time. Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>However, did you see the contents of the post that got modded (the 17th post in the Democratic primary topic) which was apparently modded within 5-10 minutes of being posted? The response times are insane and the actual content of the messages aren't anything that jumps out at you.</quote> Whoa, that's fast. It makes me think of those guys in parades that have to follow right behind the horses and immediately clean up the shit they leave behind.</quote> Yeah but more like a cop that follows you everywhere you go and also makes up his own rules when he sees youre doing everything you should be just to fine you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 09/13/19 11:22:25 AM #28:	Paying the money is pretty much the only thing Nebraska can do. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:927381994] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Paying the money is pretty much the only thing Nebraska can do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ogurisama 09/13/19 11:24:22 AM #29:	The government footing thr bill is the same as the tax payers paying for it. Thats how the government gets most of its money --- http://cdn-android.apptap.com/img/870/mobi.colortrilogy.bitlink/267135850.png https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/5/uv4r7nGyrE6ylt2lHGWpiQ2.gif <cite>Ogurisama posted [p:927382091] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>The government footing thr bill is the same as the tax payers paying for it. Thats how the government gets most of its money </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 09/13/19 4:02:23 PM #30:	Aaantlion posted... Whenever anybody sues the government, taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah, it sucks, but what else can you do? Are you going to not compensate people whose lives the government ruined? Well, you could go after the prosecutors who so badly and blatantly handled the case and put innocent people behind bars for decades. Make them pay up with everything they've ever saved up and throw their asses in jail. Would be a drop in the bucket compared to the amount owed probably, but every little bit helps, and ending blanket prosecutorial immunity would make other prosecutors in the future think twice about misleading a court just to get a "victory." <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:927394084] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>Whenever anybody sues the government, taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah, it sucks, but what else can you do? Are you going to not compensate people whose lives the government ruined?</quote> Well, you could go after the prosecutors who so badly and blatantly handled the case and put innocent people behind bars for decades. Make them pay up with everything they've ever saved up and throw their asses in jail. Would be a drop in the bucket compared to the amount owed probably, but every little bit helps, and ending blanket prosecutorial immunity would make other prosecutors in the future think twice about misleading a court just to get a "victory."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 09/13/19 4:03:16 PM #31:	Pay them their money! --- Official King of Black People https://imgur.com/Zk3VS3o http://imgur.com/a/UeQiE https://imgur.com/aSnCUuI <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:927394121] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Pay them their money!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 09/13/19 4:06:16 PM #32:	streamofthesky posted... Well, you could go after the prosecutors who so badly and blatantly handled the case and put innocent people behind bars for decades. In the US system that blame would lie with the jury. Then again, it just further shows that lay people are not a good enough replacement for an actual judge. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:927394272] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote> Well, you could go after the prosecutors who so badly and blatantly handled the case and put innocent people behind bars for decades.</quote> In the US system that blame would lie with the jury. Then again, it just further shows that lay people are not a good enough replacement for an actual judge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 09/13/19 4:09:42 PM #33:	Nichtcrawler X posted... streamofthesky posted... Well, you could go after the prosecutors who so badly and blatantly handled the case and put innocent people behind bars for decades. In the US system that blame would lie with the jury. Then again, it just further shows that lay people are not a good enough replacement for an actual judge. I mean in cases where the prosecution withholds evidence, makes assertions they would know aren't true, etc... It's happened before, and the immunity laws have protected them from facing personal responsibility/punishment for it. Too many offices view their success as a matter of conviction rate, first and foremost. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:927394432] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote> Well, you could go after the prosecutors who so badly and blatantly handled the case and put innocent people behind bars for decades.</quote> In the US system that blame would lie with the jury. Then again, it just further shows that lay people are not a good enough replacement for an actual judge.</quote> I mean in cases where the prosecution withholds evidence, makes assertions they would know aren't true, etc... It's happened before, and the immunity laws have protected them from facing personal responsibility/punishment for it. Too many offices view their success as a matter of conviction rate, first and foremost.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 09/13/19 7:58:09 PM #34:	In Nebraska, the overall error rate in death penalty cases is 68 percent, meaning that courts have found serious, reversible error in nearly 7 of every 10 death penalty cases. Top Douglas County crime scene investigator David Kofoed was convicted of planting blood evidence in a car, which led to the incarceration of two innocent men. Kofoed served jail time and was ordered to pay $6.49 million to the two men his phony evidence helped incarcerate. In addition to the lawsuit against Kofoed, one of the innocent men agreed to a settlement that cost taxpayers $1.65 million ($1 million paid by Cass County; $600,000 by the State of Nebraska; and $50,000 by Douglas County, Nebraska) --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:927403276] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>In Nebraska, the overall error rate in death penalty cases is 68 percent, meaning that courts have found serious, reversible error in nearly 7 of every 10 death penalty cases. Top Douglas County crime scene investigator David Kofoed was convicted of planting blood evidence in a car, which led to the incarceration of two innocent men. Kofoed served jail time and was ordered to pay $6.49 million to the two men his phony evidence helped incarcerate. In addition to the lawsuit against Kofoed, one of the innocent men agreed to a settlement that cost taxpayers $1.65 million ($1 million paid by Cass County; $600,000 by the State of Nebraska; and $50,000 by Douglas County, Nebraska) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aaantlion 09/14/19 1:39:18 AM #35:	SunWuKung420 posted... They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up. SunWuKung420 posted... 1mil is twice what they could have made. ...you're aware that it's a bigger matter than just lost wages, right? Because it seems like you don't. streamofthesky posted... Aaantlion posted... Whenever anybody sues the government, taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah, it sucks, but what else can you do? Are you going to not compensate people whose lives the government ruined? Well, you could go after the prosecutors who so badly and blatantly handled the case and put innocent people behind bars for decades. Make them pay up with everything they've ever saved up and throw their asses in jail. Would be a drop in the bucket compared to the amount owed probably, but every little bit helps, and ending blanket prosecutorial immunity would make other prosecutors in the future think twice about misleading a court just to get a "victory." Overlooking that the problem wasn't just the prosecutors, jailing prosecutors for anything other than corruption opens a massive can of worms that doesn't necessarily benefit anybody. Likewise personal liability for performance issues on the job is a really bad standard as well, which could open the door for employers increasing suing employees over errors that the company or its insurance policy should eat. More importantly, you seem to be implying that the government has no liability for employing these people or overseeing their conduct, which is absurd. And sure, you could argue, "Well, somebody else wasn't doing their job, so take all their money and lock them up, too," but you're going to wind up locking up a lot of people by the end since when things like this happen, it's usually because a lot of people weren't doing their job right. streamofthesky posted... I mean in cases where the prosecution withholds evidence, makes assertions they would know aren't true, etc... For withheld evidence, we already have an appeals system and there's generally a plausible deniability that makes it hard to actually enforce. captpackrat posted... In Nebraska, the overall error rate in death penalty cases is 68 percent, meaning that courts have found serious, reversible error in nearly 7 of every 10 death penalty cases. Top Douglas County crime scene investigator David Kofoed was convicted of planting blood evidence in a car, which led to the incarceration of two innocent men. Kofoed served jail time and was ordered to pay $6.49 million to the two men his phony evidence helped incarcerate. In addition to the lawsuit against Kofoed, one of the innocent men agreed to a settlement that cost taxpayers $1.65 million ($1 million paid by Cass County; $600,000 by the State of Nebraska; and $50,000 by Douglas County, Nebraska) Yet another reason why the death penalty should be banned, like in most other developed nations. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| <cite>Aaantlion posted [p:927414464] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>They deserve compensation for being wrongly imprisoned but 5 million each is a bit much, considering it's highly likely they wouldn't have made more than 30k/yr if they hadn't been locked up.</quote> SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>1mil is twice what they could have made.</quote> ...you're aware that it's a bigger matter than just lost wages, right? Because it seems like you don't. streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted...</cite> <quote>Whenever anybody sues the government, taxpayers foot the bill. Yeah, it sucks, but what else can you do? Are you going to not compensate people whose lives the government ruined?</quote> Well, you could go after the prosecutors who so badly and blatantly handled the case and put innocent people behind bars for decades. Make them pay up with everything they've ever saved up and throw their asses in jail. Would be a drop in the bucket compared to the amount owed probably, but every little bit helps, and ending blanket prosecutorial immunity would make other prosecutors in the future think twice about misleading a court just to get a "victory."</quote> Overlooking that the problem wasn't just the prosecutors, jailing prosecutors for anything other than corruption opens a massive can of worms that doesn't necessarily benefit anybody. Likewise personal liability for performance issues on the job is a really bad standard as well, which could open the door for employers increasing suing employees over errors that the company or its insurance policy should eat. More importantly, you seem to be implying that the government has no liability for employing these people or overseeing their conduct, which is absurd. And sure, you could argue, "Well, somebody else wasn't doing their job, so take all their money and lock them up, too," but you're going to wind up locking up a lot of people by the end since when things like this happen, it's usually because a lot of people weren't doing their job right. streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote>I mean in cases where the prosecution withholds evidence, makes assertions they would know aren't true, etc...</quote> For withheld evidence, we already have an appeals system and there's generally a plausible deniability that makes it hard to actually enforce. captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote>In Nebraska, the overall error rate in death penalty cases is 68 percent, meaning that courts have found serious, reversible error in nearly 7 of every 10 death penalty cases. Top Douglas County crime scene investigator David Kofoed was convicted of planting blood evidence in a car, which led to the incarceration of two innocent men. Kofoed served jail time and was ordered to pay $6.49 million to the two men his phony evidence helped incarcerate. In addition to the lawsuit against Kofoed, one of the innocent men agreed to a settlement that cost taxpayers $1.65 million ($1 million paid by Cass County; $600,000 by the State of Nebraska; and $50,000 by Douglas County, Nebraska) </quote> Yet another reason why the death penalty should be banned, like in most other developed nations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 09/14/19 6:06:20 AM #36:	Aaantlion posted... Overlooking that the problem wasn't just the prosecutors, jailing prosecutors for anything other than corruption opens a massive can of worms that doesn't necessarily benefit anybody. Likewise personal liability for performance issues on the job is a really bad standard as well, which could open the door for employers increasing suing employees over errors that the company or its insurance policy should eat. More importantly, you seem to be implying that the government has no liability for employing these people or overseeing their conduct, which is absurd. And sure, you could argue, "Well, somebody else wasn't doing their job, so take all their money and lock them up, too," but you're going to wind up locking up a lot of people by the end since when things like this happen, it's usually because a lot of people weren't doing their job right. Thanks. You saved me from having to reply to refute the obvious of why you shouldn't go after prosecution. Again, other than corruption/fraud/deliberate miscarriage of justice (for which there are appropriate avenues), a prosecution's role and alignment of interests are clearly articulated. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:927418864] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Aaantlion posted... </cite> <quote>Overlooking that the problem wasn't just the prosecutors, jailing prosecutors for anything other than corruption opens a massive can of worms that doesn't necessarily benefit anybody. Likewise personal liability for performance issues on the job is a really bad standard as well, which could open the door for employers increasing suing employees over errors that the company or its insurance policy should eat. More importantly, you seem to be implying that the government has no liability for employing these people or overseeing their conduct, which is absurd. And sure, you could argue, "Well, somebody else wasn't doing their job, so take all their money and lock them up, too," but you're going to wind up locking up a lot of people by the end since when things like this happen, it's usually because a lot of people weren't doing their job right. </quote> Thanks. You saved me from having to reply to refute the obvious of why you shouldn't go after prosecution. Again, other than corruption/fraud/deliberate miscarriage of justice (for which there are appropriate avenues), a prosecution's role and alignment of interests are clearly articulated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 09/14/19 7:10:52 AM #37:	Over the last X years how many people in just Nebraska died due to infrastructure failure; Whether it be from crashing on a bad road pothole or from a sewage main breaking or whatever? Not gunna raise taxes for that? The most efficient usage of government income? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:927419688] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Over the last X years how many people in just Nebraska died due to infrastructure failure; Whether it be from crashing on a bad road pothole or from a sewage main breaking or whatever? Not gunna raise taxes for that? The most efficient usage of government income?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 09/14/19 9:00:20 AM #38:	I mean how many people would go to prison for 5 years, for a mill a year? I sure wouldn't. --- Zangulus "I try to avoid having any knowledge at all of his dick." <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:927421464] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>I mean how many people would go to prison for 5 years, for a mill a year? I sure wouldn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BUMPED2002 09/14/19 10:32:57 AM #39:	America has a lot of people who have been falsely imprisoned. The question is how do you rectify someone who may have spent 10, 20, or 30 years in prison for something they didn't do. You can't so the next best time is compensation because you can never give those people back the time they lost due to false imprisonment. It's one of the biggest reason I am against the death penalty. If someone is sentenced to death and later it's found that the person did not commit the crime, how do you rectify that? You can't! --- SpankageBros <cite>BUMPED2002 posted [p:927423565] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>America has a lot of people who have been falsely imprisoned. The question is how do you rectify someone who may have spent 10, 20, or 30 years in prison for something they didn't do. You can't so the next best time is compensation because you can never give those people back the time they lost due to false imprisonment. It's one of the biggest reason I am against the death penalty. If someone is sentenced to death and later it's found that the person did not commit the crime, how do you rectify that? You can't!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/14/19 7:47:11 PM #40:	How would the government pay without raising taxes? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:927443303] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>How would the government pay without raising taxes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 09/14/19 9:50:28 PM #41:	Revelation34 posted... How would the government pay without raising taxes? declare bankruptcy. Government LLC :V --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:927447448] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>How would the government pay without raising taxes?</quote> declare bankruptcy. Government LLC :V</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaqthourne 09/14/19 9:52:52 PM #42:	Revelation34 posted... How would the government pay without raising taxes? By cutting spending on other things. --- Montreal Expos (1969-2004) http://www.backloggery.com/Blaqthourne Now playing: Lunar: The Silver Star (SCD) -- started 8/20/2019 <cite>Blaqthourne posted [p:927447537] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>How would the government pay without raising taxes?</quote> By cutting spending on other things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/14/19 10:01:08 PM #43:	Blaqthourne posted... Revelation34 posted... How would the government pay without raising taxes? By cutting spending on other things. Or having enough in escrow to cover abnormal expenditures. But that would require government officials that aren't corrupted, which is anomalous. --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:927447829] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Blaqthourne posted...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>How would the government pay without raising taxes?</quote> By cutting spending on other things.</quote> Or having enough in escrow to cover abnormal expenditures. But that would require government officials that aren't corrupted, which is anomalous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 09/15/19 8:09:26 AM #44:	BUMPED2002 posted... America has a lot of people who have been falsely imprisoned. The question is how do you rectify someone who may have spent 10, 20, or 30 years in prison for something they didn't do. You can't so the next best time is compensation because you can never give those people back the time they lost due to false imprisonment. It's one of the biggest reason I am against the death penalty. If someone is sentenced to death and later it's found that the person did not commit the crime, how do you rectify that? You can't! Not that I disagree with you but I wonder if maybe there's an opportunity for a statutory dollar value or limit in determining the value of a life. I vaguely recall studying this as a concept many years ago but it was more for insurance purposes and determining how much compensation is needed for medical issues. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:927462206] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>BUMPED2002 posted... </cite> <quote>America has a lot of people who have been falsely imprisoned. The question is how do you rectify someone who may have spent 10, 20, or 30 years in prison for something they didn't do. You can't so the next best time is compensation because you can never give those people back the time they lost due to false imprisonment. It's one of the biggest reason I am against the death penalty. If someone is sentenced to death and later it's found that the person did not commit the crime, how do you rectify that? You can't!</quote> Not that I disagree with you but I wonder if maybe there's an opportunity for a statutory dollar value or limit in determining the value of a life. I vaguely recall studying this as a concept many years ago but it was more for insurance purposes and determining how much compensation is needed for medical issues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 09/15/19 8:09:52 AM #45:	Blaqthourne posted... By cutting spending on other things. Or making more money by investing surplus funds... sovereign funds are a thing in most other countries. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:927462210] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Blaqthourne posted... </cite> <quote>By cutting spending on other things.</quote> Or making more money by investing surplus funds... sovereign funds are a thing in most other countries. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaqthourne 09/15/19 8:19:58 AM #46:	^ Assuming they have surplus funds. --- Montreal Expos (1969-2004) http://www.backloggery.com/Blaqthourne Now playing: Lunar: The Silver Star (SCD) -- started 8/20/2019 <cite>Blaqthourne posted [p:927462376] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>^ Assuming they have surplus funds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/15/19 8:27:39 AM #47:	Blaqthourne posted... ^ Assuming they have surplus funds. Do you think with a yearly fluctuating tax income they earmark every penny? Governments typically don't have to insure themselves as they have enough operating capital to cover costs, this is where such money can go. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927462530] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Blaqthourne posted...</cite> <quote>^ Assuming they have surplus funds.</quote> Do you think with a yearly fluctuating tax income they earmark every penny? Governments typically don't have to insure themselves as they have enough operating capital to cover costs, this is where such money can go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaqthourne 09/15/19 8:29:27 AM #48:	Many cities run a deficit. --- Montreal Expos (1969-2004) http://www.backloggery.com/Blaqthourne Now playing: Lunar: The Silver Star (SCD) -- started 8/20/2019 <cite>Blaqthourne posted [p:927462564] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Many cities run a deficit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gloBal enemy 09/15/19 8:30:11 AM #49:	Blaqthourne posted... ^ Assuming they have surplus funds. Then they should've budgeted better. Or introduced mandatory contributions to sovereign funds to fund future liabilities. --- If you can understand this, I'm 2/cosC for you. <cite>gloBal enemy posted [p:927462578] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Blaqthourne posted... </cite> <quote>^ Assuming they have surplus funds.</quote> Then they should've budgeted better. Or introduced mandatory contributions to sovereign funds to fund future liabilities. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaqthourne 09/15/19 8:32:49 AM #50:	I never claimed that the county in question ran a deficit. I merely pointed out that there are cities that do. --- Montreal Expos (1969-2004) http://www.backloggery.com/Blaqthourne Now playing: Lunar: The Silver Star (SCD) -- started 8/20/2019 <cite>Blaqthourne posted [p:927462641] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>I never claimed that the county in question ran a deficit. I merely pointed out that there are cities that do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/15/19 2:26:18 PM #51:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Do you think with a yearly fluctuating tax income they earmark every penny? Governments typically don't have to insure themselves as they have enough operating capital to cover costs, this is where such money can go. Nebraska flooded for like 6 months straight. That's where the money went. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:927473659] in Nebraska i... [t:78009864]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think with a yearly fluctuating tax income they earmark every penny? Governments typically don't have to insure themselves as they have enough operating capital to cover costs, this is where such money can go.</quote> Nebraska flooded for like 6 months straight. That's where the money went.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poll of the Day > Nebraska is RAISING TAXES to pay 30 MILLION to SIX People who went to PRISON!!! (+) Yeah! (+)

Poll of the Day > Nebraska is RAISING TAXES to pay 30 MILLION to SIX People who went to PRISON!!!