Poll of the Day > Would you eat plant-based "meat substitute"?

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adjl 09/07/19 7:15:47 PM #52:	LinkPizza posted... I dont think thats the issue. See, the whole issue is that making beef isnt good for the Earth, so vegans want omnivores and carnivores to stop eating meat. But people dont because they like the meat and how it taste. So, they made plant based burgers that are suppose to taste like the meat they are trying to be. I think people can also easily enjoy a bean burger and such. But if people couldnt eat real meat, they would still want something that taste exactly the same (or at lest similar). That being said, burgers are only a small part. We would still need many different flavors of meat from chicken to pork. Also, more of the cow. Making a burger is one thing. And it took a while to make it, IIRC. Now, they would need to work on things like steak and such... Honestly, lab meat will become commercially viable before anyone manages to come up with a veggie burger that will completely satisfy carnivores. That's where the real potential is for reducing animal suffering and the environmental impact of ranching. Beyond Meat and the like are just capitalizing on the fact that plant-heavy diets have become trendy, not actually trying to reduce the amount of meat eaten. I'm also thinking more broadly than just burgers, looking at things like "vegan brownies" that are just dates mashed up with cocoa in a food processor. That's very obviously not a brownie. It's quite tasty, but trying to pass it off as a brownie instead of calling it something like "cocoa date bar" is just silly. You're not fooling anyone. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:927121129] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think thats the issue. See, the whole issue is that making beef isnt good for the Earth, so vegans want omnivores and carnivores to stop eating meat. But people dont because they like the meat and how it taste. So, they made plant based burgers that are suppose to taste like the meat they are trying to be. I think people can also easily enjoy a bean burger and such. But if people couldnt eat real meat, they would still want something that taste exactly the same (or at lest similar). That being said, burgers are only a small part. We would still need many different flavors of meat from chicken to pork. Also, more of the cow. Making a burger is one thing. And it took a while to make it, IIRC. Now, they would need to work on things like steak and such...</quote> Honestly, lab meat will become commercially viable before anyone manages to come up with a veggie burger that will completely satisfy carnivores. That's where the real potential is for reducing animal suffering and the environmental impact of ranching. Beyond Meat and the like are just capitalizing on the fact that plant-heavy diets have become trendy, not actually trying to reduce the amount of meat eaten. I'm also thinking more broadly than just burgers, looking at things like "vegan brownies" that are just dates mashed up with cocoa in a food processor. That's very obviously not a brownie. It's quite tasty, but trying to pass it off as a brownie instead of calling it something like "cocoa date bar" is just silly. You're not fooling anyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/07/19 8:20:17 PM #53:	adjl posted... LinkPizza posted... I dont think thats the issue. See, the whole issue is that making beef isnt good for the Earth, so vegans want omnivores and carnivores to stop eating meat. But people dont because they like the meat and how it taste. So, they made plant based burgers that are suppose to taste like the meat they are trying to be. I think people can also easily enjoy a bean burger and such. But if people couldnt eat real meat, they would still want something that taste exactly the same (or at lest similar). That being said, burgers are only a small part. We would still need many different flavors of meat from chicken to pork. Also, more of the cow. Making a burger is one thing. And it took a while to make it, IIRC. Now, they would need to work on things like steak and such... Honestly, lab meat will become commercially viable before anyone manages to come up with a veggie burger that will completely satisfy carnivores. That's where the real potential is for reducing animal suffering and the environmental impact of ranching. Beyond Meat and the like are just capitalizing on the fact that plant-heavy diets have become trendy, not actually trying to reduce the amount of meat eaten. I'm also thinking more broadly than just burgers, looking at things like "vegan brownies" that are just dates mashed up with cocoa in a food processor. That's very obviously not a brownie. It's quite tasty, but trying to pass it off as a brownie instead of calling it something like "cocoa date bar" is just silly. You're not fooling anyone. I do agree that naming them like that is just to get people to buy them. Especially ones who dont know how the different vegan items are made... That makes a great amount of sense. They can still sort of feel like they dont have to give up some foods they like. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927123535] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think thats the issue. See, the whole issue is that making beef isnt good for the Earth, so vegans want omnivores and carnivores to stop eating meat. But people dont because they like the meat and how it taste. So, they made plant based burgers that are suppose to taste like the meat they are trying to be. I think people can also easily enjoy a bean burger and such. But if people couldnt eat real meat, they would still want something that taste exactly the same (or at lest similar). That being said, burgers are only a small part. We would still need many different flavors of meat from chicken to pork. Also, more of the cow. Making a burger is one thing. And it took a while to make it, IIRC. Now, they would need to work on things like steak and such...</quote> Honestly, lab meat will become commercially viable before anyone manages to come up with a veggie burger that will completely satisfy carnivores. That's where the real potential is for reducing animal suffering and the environmental impact of ranching. Beyond Meat and the like are just capitalizing on the fact that plant-heavy diets have become trendy, not actually trying to reduce the amount of meat eaten. I'm also thinking more broadly than just burgers, looking at things like "vegan brownies" that are just dates mashed up with cocoa in a food processor. That's very obviously not a brownie. It's quite tasty, but trying to pass it off as a brownie instead of calling it something like "cocoa date bar" is just silly. You're not fooling anyone.</quote> I do agree that naming them like that is just to get people to buy them. Especially ones who dont know how the different vegan items are made... That makes a great amount of sense. They can still sort of feel like they dont have to give up some foods they like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 09/07/19 8:23:29 PM #54:	Wheres the Fuck no, bud. option? --- I'm right, as expected. <cite>zebatov posted [p:927123663] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Wheres the Fuck no, bud. option? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CarrieChan 09/07/19 9:13:15 PM #55:	They cost more than actual meat, so no for now. <cite>CarrieChan posted [p:927125564] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>They cost more than actual meat, so no for now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 09/07/19 10:36:35 PM #56:	I'd try it sure. It won't replace meat for me though. I don't feel the need to choose option A or B when I can have both. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:927128676] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>I'd try it sure. It won't replace meat for me though. I don't feel the need to choose option A or B when I can have both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/07/19 11:29:32 PM #57:	I want to try it but far too expensive. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:927130753] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>I want to try it but far too expensive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Keebs05 09/08/19 12:12:59 AM #59:	Absolutely no interest. --- "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away" R.I.P PFC Dusty Seidel <cite>Keebs05 posted [p:927132166] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely no interest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
final_lap 09/08/19 5:21:10 AM #60:	VioletMassacre posted... I've tried "meat"balls (plantballs?) once that were so similar to actual meat that it made me feel sick and I literally couldn't eat it. Speaking of which the vegan meatballs occasionally found at WFM seem indistinguishable from animal based meatballs, but I wouldn't recommend eating them. Plant based meat can be hit or miss with me. I avoid almond milk and vegan ice cream as well. And beet burgers are just pathetic. But the good stuff tends to be REALLY GOOD imo. I've loved tofu dogs, basically anything asian, (mock duck, soy protein, etc) and the soy nuggets at WFM, and various seitan. These are probably not essential foods but I'll be damned if they aren't really enjoyable. Oh, and shiitake bacon / eggplant bacon are to die for. Those get extra points for not really being fake anything, just plant/fungus prepared a certain way. <cite>final_lap posted [p:927138631] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>VioletMassacre posted...</cite> <quote>I've tried "meat"balls (plantballs?) once that were so similar to actual meat that it made me feel sick and I literally couldn't eat it.</quote> Speaking of which the vegan meatballs occasionally found at WFM seem indistinguishable from animal based meatballs, but I wouldn't recommend eating them. Plant based meat can be hit or miss with me. I avoid almond milk and vegan ice cream as well. And beet burgers are just pathetic. But the good stuff tends to be REALLY GOOD imo. I've loved tofu dogs, basically anything asian, (mock duck, soy protein, etc) and the soy nuggets at WFM, and various seitan. These are probably not essential foods but I'll be damned if they aren't really enjoyable. Oh, and shiitake bacon / eggplant bacon are to die for. Those get extra points for not really being fake anything, just plant/fungus prepared a certain way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gaawa_chan 09/08/19 5:50:29 AM #61:	I've had some really good meat substitutes, especially when it comes to faux sausage. The bacon ones I've had were utter trash, though I've heard that they've gotten better over the years. The biggest problem with meat substitutes is that if you're making them at home, they can take a LOT of work to prep. That's one of the reasons why they tend to be more expensive to buy; they can get away with charging more because of the convenience of buying something that's more work than average to make at home. I should really just go back to being a vege/vegan. A lot of my favorite foods fall under that category anyway so it's not like I'd be missing out. --- Hi <cite>Gaawa_chan posted [p:927138958] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>I've had some really good meat substitutes, especially when it comes to faux sausage. The bacon ones I've had were utter trash, though I've heard that they've gotten better over the years. The biggest problem with meat substitutes is that if you're making them at home, they can take a LOT of work to prep. That's one of the reasons why they tend to be more expensive to buy; they can get away with charging more because of the convenience of buying something that's more work than average to make at home. I should really just go back to being a vege/vegan. A lot of my favorite foods fall under that category anyway so it's not like I'd be missing out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Superlinkbro 09/16/19 10:04:35 PM #62:	I've been having slight thoughts about going vegetarian. I don't know if I ever will. I've had these before however, and they aren't as good as real meat. And yes they are more expensive which is the major setback for me. --- PSN: Super_Link_Bro/Switch FC: SW-0496-6694-1794 Please let me know if you want to friend me beforehand. <cite>Superlinkbro posted [p:927541575] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>I've been having slight thoughts about going vegetarian. I don't know if I ever will. I've had these before however, and they aren't as good as real meat. And yes they are more expensive which is the major setback for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xfma100 09/17/19 2:58:01 AM #63:	Lil_Bit83 posted... afrodude77 posted... More interested in eating insects Eww. Well tbf, farming insects is far better for the environment than farming regular meat... <cite>Xfma100 posted [p:927551111] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Lil_Bit83 posted... </cite> <quote>afrodude77 posted... More interested in eating insects Eww.</quote> Well tbf, farming insects is far better for the environment than farming regular meat... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/17/19 3:20:58 AM #64:	Xfma100 posted... Well tbf, farming insects is far better for the environment than farming regular meat... People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:927551504] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Xfma100 posted...</cite> <quote>Well tbf, farming insects is far better for the environment than farming regular meat...</quote> People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma 09/17/19 4:28:55 AM #65:	Revelation34 posted... Xfma100 posted... Well tbf, farming insects is far better for the environment than farming regular meat... People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all. To be fair, people eat crabs and lobsters, which are basically sea insects. --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. <cite>Sarcasthma posted [p:927552623] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Xfma100 posted...</cite> <quote>Well tbf, farming insects is far better for the environment than farming regular meat...</quote> People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all.</quote> To be fair, people eat crabs and lobsters, which are basically sea insects.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/17/19 4:51:22 AM #66:	Revelation34 posted... People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all. Like most meat? --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927552911] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all.</quote> Like most meat?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 09/17/19 8:58:25 AM #67:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Revelation34 posted... People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all. Like most meat? No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:927556943] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all.</quote> Like most meat?</quote> No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/17/19 9:04:05 AM #68:	captpackrat posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Revelation34 posted... People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all. Like most meat? No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first. Looks tender. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:927557081] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all.</quote> Like most meat?</quote> No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first. </quote> Looks tender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SusanGreenEyes 09/17/19 10:10:15 AM #69:	Kyuubi4269 posted... captpackrat posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Revelation34 posted... People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all. Like most meat? No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first. Looks tender. Ooh veal!! --- Been a murder, over in Riften. Some old lady who runs an orphanage. Those poor children must be heartbroken. <cite>SusanGreenEyes posted [p:927558906] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all.</quote> Like most meat?</quote> No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first. </quote> Looks tender.</quote> Ooh veal!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/17/19 11:16:05 AM #70:	SusanGreenEyes posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... captpackrat posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Revelation34 posted... People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all. Like most meat? No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first. Looks tender. Ooh veal!! I do love me some veal... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927561256] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>SusanGreenEyes posted...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>People would only want to eat it if it doesn't look like an insect at all.</quote> Like most meat?</quote> No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first. </quote> Looks tender.</quote> Ooh veal!!</quote> I do love me some veal...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowbird_RH 09/17/19 11:23:58 AM #71:	Content to be omnivorous, I'd be willing to give plant based meat substitutes a try for curiosity's sake, but I'm not against eating meat. That said, I do think we eat too much meat in general, but I don't think it should be taken off the menu. --- Fail, and we all face a tyrannical age of pizza the likes of which sentient life has never known. - Sun'barac, Xenoblade Chronicles X <cite>Shadowbird_RH posted [p:927561563] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Content to be omnivorous, I'd be willing to give plant based meat substitutes a try for curiosity's sake, but I'm not against eating meat. That said, I do think we eat too much meat in general, but I don't think it should be taken off the menu.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/17/19 2:54:00 PM #72:	captpackrat posted... No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first. Says who? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:927570302] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote>No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first.</quote> Says who?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 09/17/19 3:00:13 PM #73:	I have no problem with meat substitutes whenever I eat them. It's just that it takes a good chunk of money to do it. --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:927570603] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>I have no problem with meat substitutes whenever I eat them. It's just that it takes a good chunk of money to do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SirPikachu 09/17/19 3:00:33 PM #74:	I don't like any kind of ground up meat, the only meat I eat are still solid chunks of flesh. If someone can make a chicken tender or fish fillet out of vegetables, I guess I would try it, but I doubt it would have anywhere near the same texture or consistency --- 3DS FC: 4656 9282 1616 Everyone call me elf monster <cite>SirPikachu posted [p:927570621] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>I don't like any kind of ground up meat, the only meat I eat are still solid chunks of flesh. If someone can make a chicken tender or fish fillet out of vegetables, I guess I would try it, but I doubt it would have anywhere near the same texture or consistency</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkKirby2500 09/17/19 3:10:41 PM #75:	I've tried many of them. None of them actually taste like the product they claim to be imitating. --- The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Those who seek justice are at the greatest risk of losing sight of it. <cite>DarkKirby2500 posted [p:927571118] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>I've tried many of them. None of them actually taste like the product they claim to be imitating.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 09/17/19 3:19:42 PM #76:	Jen0125 posted... I would if it was more cost effective for me. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:927571538] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote>I would if it was more cost effective for me.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 09/17/19 3:23:15 PM #77:	Gaawa_chan posted... The biggest problem with meat substitutes is that if you're making them at home, they can take a LOT of work to prep. That's one of the reasons why they tend to be more expensive to buy; they can get away with charging more because of the convenience of buying something that's more work than average to make at home. I found it's more time than effort for most things. But I also don't like cooking a big ol' seitan batch for one. Tiny freezer. I do plan on making my own holiday roasts because fuck those tofurkey lumps of misery --- Not a doctor. Shh! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:927571721] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Gaawa_chan posted... </cite> <quote>The biggest problem with meat substitutes is that if you're making them at home, they can take a LOT of work to prep. That's one of the reasons why they tend to be more expensive to buy; they can get away with charging more because of the convenience of buying something that's more work than average to make at home.</quote>I found it's more time than effort for most things. But I also don't like cooking a big ol' seitan batch for one. Tiny freezer. I do plan on making my own holiday roasts because fuck those tofurkey lumps of misery </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/17/19 4:25:37 PM #78:	captpackrat posted... No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first. I'm not a huge fan of veal. But one of the first thoughts I ever had when I saw the pig from Babe was "Man, that would make a delicious sandwich." I've also literally raised chickens and geese from almost birth to eventually eat them. Named them, hand-fed them, petted them, etc. So sentiment really isn't going to stop me from eating anything. Nor did it stop most human beings throughout the entirety of human history when people had to raise their own animals on farms rather than allowing machines to do most of the slaughtering and selling meat en masse. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:927574615] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote><cite>captpackrat posted...</cite> <quote>No one would ever eat veal if they had to see the calf first.</quote> I'm not a huge fan of veal. But one of the first thoughts I ever had when I saw the pig from Babe was "Man, that would make a delicious sandwich." I've also literally raised chickens and geese from almost birth to eventually eat them. Named them, hand-fed them, petted them, etc. So sentiment really isn't going to stop me from eating anything. Nor did it stop most human beings throughout the entirety of human history when people had to raise their own animals on farms rather than allowing machines to do most of the slaughtering and selling meat en masse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raze_Razel 09/17/19 4:28:37 PM #79:	ITT: no one ever saw "Soylent Green" <cite>Raze_Razel posted [p:927574744] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>ITT: no one ever saw "Soylent Green"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/17/19 4:29:35 PM #80:	Raze_Razel posted... ITT: no one ever saw "Soylent Green" I have. Part of why I've often joked about how delicious it is. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:927574780] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Raze_Razel posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: no one ever saw "Soylent Green"</quote> I have. Part of why I've often joked about how delicious it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 09/18/19 1:25:28 AM #81:	Soylent Green was also... explicitly not about vegetarianism. If what you got out of Soylent Green was "wow fake food is bad", and not "wow overpopulation is bad", you should really rewatch the scene where they literally use dump trucks to just... pour humans into the truck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wa4U6TQlNI" data-time=" --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:927595924] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Soylent Green was also... explicitly not about vegetarianism. If what you got out of Soylent Green was "wow fake food is bad", and not "wow overpopulation is bad", you should really rewatch the scene where they literally use dump trucks to just... pour humans into the truck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wa4U6TQlNI" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raze_Razel 09/18/19 2:02:45 AM #82:	shadowsword87 posted... Soylent Green was also... explicitly not about vegetarianism. If what you got out of Soylent Green was "wow fake food is bad", and not "wow overpopulation is bad", you should really rewatch the scene where they literally use dump trucks to just... pour humans into the truck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wa4U6TQlNI" data-time=" Well, the deeper meaning with Soylent Green is that with over-population, food resources will dwindle to the point real food wouldn't be real anymore, that we have to rely on processed chemicals to stay alive, and they'd probably have to disguise it with clever marketing like "Plant Based Meats". It's kind of scary that plant-based food is suddenly a fad in the fast food industry, as if saying natural foods are running dry, so go with the alternative. And when the resources for that alternative diminish where do we go next? ......busting out those dump trucks? <cite>Raze_Razel posted [p:927596700] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>shadowsword87 posted...</cite> <quote>Soylent Green was also... explicitly not about vegetarianism. If what you got out of Soylent Green was "wow fake food is bad", and not "wow overpopulation is bad", you should really rewatch the scene where they literally use dump trucks to just... pour humans into the truck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wa4U6TQlNI" data-time="</quote> Well, the deeper meaning with Soylent Green is that with over-population, food resources will dwindle to the point real food wouldn't be real anymore, that we have to rely on processed chemicals to stay alive, and they'd probably have to disguise it with clever marketing like "Plant Based Meats". It's kind of scary that plant-based food is suddenly a fad in the fast food industry, as if saying natural foods are running dry, so go with the alternative. And when the resources for that alternative diminish where do we go next? ......busting out those dump trucks?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/18/19 3:46:33 AM #83:	shadowsword87 posted... Soylent Green was also... explicitly not about vegetarianism. If what you got out of Soylent Green was "wow fake food is bad", and not "wow overpopulation is bad", you should really rewatch the scene where they literally use dump trucks to just... pour humans into the truck. To be fair, what the book was intended to be about and what the movie was about are also two entirely different things. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:927598478] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>shadowsword87 posted...</cite> <quote>Soylent Green was also... explicitly not about vegetarianism. If what you got out of Soylent Green was "wow fake food is bad", and not "wow overpopulation is bad", you should really rewatch the scene where they literally use dump trucks to just... pour humans into the truck.</quote> To be fair, what the book was intended to be about and what the movie was about are also two entirely different things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/18/19 3:55:08 AM #84:	Raze_Razel posted... Well, the deeper meaning with Soylent Green is that with over-population, food resources will dwindle to the point real food wouldn't be real anymore, that we have to rely on processed chemicals to stay alive, and they'd probably have to disguise it with clever marketing like "Plant Based Meats" That's not really the deeper meaning. That's the very surface meaning people tend to read into it because it's the simplest theme to parse out. The main theme is addressing deeper implications of the dehumanization of people by society, the destruction of the environment and squandering of resources, and the social impact of overpopulation. The "hey, guess what Soylent Green is made of?" part is almost an afterthought. It's basically only the MacGuffin that propels the story (by establishing a secret that people are willing to kill to preserve). As much as people focus on the ending, it's most of the stuff leading UP to it that you're more supposed to be paying attention to. The book is mostly just about overpopulation and global resource inequality, and doesn't really even mention Soylent at all. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:927598632] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Raze_Razel posted...</cite> <quote>Well, the deeper meaning with Soylent Green is that with over-population, food resources will dwindle to the point real food wouldn't be real anymore, that we have to rely on processed chemicals to stay alive, and they'd probably have to disguise it with clever marketing like "Plant Based Meats"</quote> That's not really the deeper meaning. That's the very surface meaning people tend to read into it because it's the simplest theme to parse out. The main theme is addressing deeper implications of the dehumanization of people by society, the destruction of the environment and squandering of resources, and the social impact of overpopulation. The "hey, guess what Soylent Green is made of?" part is almost an afterthought. It's basically only the MacGuffin that propels the story (by establishing a secret that people are willing to kill to preserve). As much as people focus on the ending, it's most of the stuff leading UP to it that you're more supposed to be paying attention to. The book is mostly just about overpopulation and global resource inequality, and doesn't really even mention Soylent at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xialoh 09/18/19 4:19:19 AM #85:	Couldn't give half a fuck about veganism, but if presented with a plant based burger that tasted as good as a real burger and it wasn't literal poison that causes cancer or something? Then sure. I'd eat it. --- "Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be." - Orson Scott Card, Ender's Game <cite>Xialoh posted [p:927599007] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Couldn't give half a fuck about veganism, but if presented with a plant based burger that tasted as good as a real burger and it wasn't literal poison that causes cancer or something? Then sure. I'd eat it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/18/19 2:46:49 PM #86:	Raze_Razel posted... It's kind of scary that plant-based food is suddenly a fad in the fast food industry, as if saying natural foods are running dry, so go with the alternative. And when the resources for that alternative diminish where do we go next? ......busting out those dump trucks? Are you fucking serious? They're doing that because they are trying to get vegetarians to eat fast food. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:927617329] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Raze_Razel posted...</cite> <quote>It's kind of scary that plant-based food is suddenly a fad in the fast food industry, as if saying natural foods are running dry, so go with the alternative. And when the resources for that alternative diminish where do we go next? ......busting out those dump trucks?</quote> Are you fucking serious? They're doing that because they are trying to get vegetarians to eat fast food.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 09/18/19 2:58:08 PM #87:	I'd rather eat the actual plant instead of some processed version of it to mimic meat. --- I'd rather die helping others survive than be all alone, UNSCATHED, after all others have fallen -DEC <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:927617887] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>I'd rather eat the actual plant instead of some processed version of it to mimic meat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/18/19 3:40:55 PM #88:	Revelation34 posted... Raze_Razel posted... It's kind of scary that plant-based food is suddenly a fad in the fast food industry, as if saying natural foods are running dry, so go with the alternative. And when the resources for that alternative diminish where do we go next? ......busting out those dump trucks? Are you fucking serious? They're doing that because they are trying to get vegetarians to eat fast food. Yeah. I think they are doing it to expand their customer base. Now vegetarians can eat there. Though, I do believe that some people do treat veganism as a fad... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927619793] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Raze_Razel posted...</cite> <quote>It's kind of scary that plant-based food is suddenly a fad in the fast food industry, as if saying natural foods are running dry, so go with the alternative. And when the resources for that alternative diminish where do we go next? ......busting out those dump trucks?</quote> Are you fucking serious? They're doing that because they are trying to get vegetarians to eat fast food.</quote> Yeah. I think they are doing it to expand their customer base. Now vegetarians can eat there. Though, I do believe that some people do treat veganism as a fad...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 09/18/19 3:42:52 PM #89:	LinkPizza posted... Yeah. I think they are doing it to expand their customer base. Now vegetarians can eat there. Though, I do believe that some people do treat veganism as a fad... I don't think any of those places will ever have real vegan food. They would have to add an entirely new grill which I doubt the kitchens even have room for. The only way I can see them doing true vegan food is if they build entirely new restaurants. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:927619868] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah. I think they are doing it to expand their customer base. Now vegetarians can eat there. Though, I do believe that some people do treat veganism as a fad...</quote> I don't think any of those places will ever have real vegan food. They would have to add an entirely new grill which I doubt the kitchens even have room for. The only way I can see them doing true vegan food is if they build entirely new restaurants.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/18/19 3:46:27 PM #90:	Revelation34 posted... LinkPizza posted... Yeah. I think they are doing it to expand their customer base. Now vegetarians can eat there. Though, I do believe that some people do treat veganism as a fad... I don't think any of those places will ever have real vegan food. They would have to add an entirely new grill which I doubt the kitchens even have room for. The only way I can see them doing true vegan food is if they build entirely new restaurants. I know. I dont think theyll get vegans. Or real vegans, at least. I think they may get some vegetarians. And maybe the people that treat veganism and vegetarianism like fads. And want to get away with eating something similar. Without knowing that its not vegan or vegetarian because of the grill used. And because they also have to ask for no mayonnaise. Well, for the vegans. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927620004] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah. I think they are doing it to expand their customer base. Now vegetarians can eat there. Though, I do believe that some people do treat veganism as a fad...</quote> I don't think any of those places will ever have real vegan food. They would have to add an entirely new grill which I doubt the kitchens even have room for. The only way I can see them doing true vegan food is if they build entirely new restaurants.</quote> I know. I dont think theyll get vegans. Or real vegans, at least. I think they may get some vegetarians. And maybe the people that treat veganism and vegetarianism like fads. And want to get away with eating something similar. Without knowing that its not vegan or vegetarian because of the grill used. And because they also have to ask for no mayonnaise. Well, for the vegans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 09/18/19 3:50:03 PM #91:	The first and only time I had vegetarian food was in 2nd grade. My best friend a street over was Indian and they served veggie burgers at his birthday party. I didnt know they were veggie burgers. I didnt know what veggie burgers even were. They tasted horrible. I respect vegetarians and the choices they make but I couldnt do it. --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. Mario Maker 2 Maker ID: X6G-JGS-BFG <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:927620167] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>The first and only time I had vegetarian food was in 2nd grade. My best friend a street over was Indian and they served veggie burgers at his birthday party. I didnt know they were veggie burgers. I didnt know what veggie burgers even were. They tasted horrible. I respect vegetarians and the choices they make but I couldnt do it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dud 09/18/19 4:11:35 PM #92:	You eat "vegetarian food" all the time. Vegetarian food is just anything that doesn't have meat in it, not exclusively things that are specifically made to look like a substitute for meat. I'm not trying to be pedantic, this kind of thing just annoys me because it perpetuates the stereotype that to be vegetarian you have to eat weird gross imitation foods. To be clear, not vegetarian myself though. A veggie burger isn't even the same thing as an Impossible/Beyond burger anyways --- YOU GOT THE DUD <cite>dud posted [p:927621133] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>You eat "vegetarian food" all the time. Vegetarian food is just anything that doesn't have meat in it, not exclusively things that are specifically made to look like a substitute for meat. I'm not trying to be pedantic, this kind of thing just annoys me because it perpetuates the stereotype that to be vegetarian you have to eat weird gross imitation foods. To be clear, not vegetarian myself though. A veggie burger isn't even the same thing as an Impossible/Beyond burger anyways</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha218 09/18/19 4:14:31 PM #93:	Yeah I am ignorant of what the label means I guess because Ive never had to worry about it. My bad. --- I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite user on the Citadel. Mario Maker 2 Maker ID: X6G-JGS-BFG <cite>Alpha218 posted [p:927621283] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Yeah I am ignorant of what the label means I guess because Ive never had to worry about it. My bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/18/19 4:39:49 PM #94:	Im pretty sure most people knew what Alpha meant with what they said and the way they said it. That being said, it is true that impossible and beyond burgees are different. I heard they are better. Though, I feel the same you, Alpha. I couldnt do it. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:927622545] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>Im pretty sure most people knew what Alpha meant with what they said and the way they said it. That being said, it is true that impossible and beyond burgees are different. I heard they are better. Though, I feel the same you, Alpha. I couldnt do it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 09/18/19 9:38:30 PM #95:	I recommend trying out the burger from BK Alpha, it's pretty good and won't make you gag. Humans have come a long way from when you were in 2nd grade. --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:927635905] in Would you ... [t:77995384]...</cite> <quote>I recommend trying out the burger from BK Alpha, it's pretty good and won't make you gag. Humans have come a long way from when you were in 2nd grade.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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