Poll of the Day > Would you eat plant-based "meat substitute"?

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I tried the Impossible Whopper from Burger King the other day. If you pick off a piece of the patty and eat it by itself, it's very close to meat but not quite right, it tastes too "clean" to be meat. But on the burger, with all the toppings and condiments, it's impossible to tell the difference. Unfortunately, it's also over $1 more.
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It's my new go to at BK with no mayo.

Not quite as good as traditional BK(like 90% a whopper) but it is tasty and it might get me more acclimated to eating less meat in the future

I definitely want to try it since I need to cut down on my meat consumption.
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I'd like to try one, but I think I'll go for one of the non-fast food versions.

I would if it was more cost effective for me.
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It has to be cheaper or it has to taste better. Seems like it's neither at the moment. I'll probably still try it out soon though.

I've tried a Beyond Meat burger, it's pretty good, very close to the real thing.

It absolutely would need to be cheaper for me to switch.
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I don't care so much about cost since it is cheap in general. I got a large impossible meal and iirc it was like $9.50. If the regular whopper meal is 8.50 large thats a small enough difference i don't care.

I eat meat and don't want fake meat. Nothing beats the real thing

More interested in eating insects

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Jen0125 posted...

I would if it was more cost effective for me.

This is how I feel about it. Morality doesnt fill my gas tank so unless its the same price or cheaper its gonna be a meat burger for me.

The substitute would need to be indistinguishable from meat by taste/texture, cheaper, and readily available.
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I will eat a vegetarian meal yes, but I will never eat a dedicated meat substitute
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I've tried a small sample of Impossible meat, it was okay and I might not be able to tell the difference if I was eating it blind, but it still didn't taste quite the same to me.

I'd still like to try out an entire meal with it but I don't know if it's something I'd eat regularly. From what I hear it's not even all that healthier (mostly high sodium IIRC) and I feel like if I'm gonna cut back on meat it would be at least in part for health reasons.
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I wouldnt mind trying it or eating it. But I wouldnt switch to it...
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Only if I liked the taste.
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i would and do. i also eat animal-based meat. if you can cut down your consumption at all it makes a difference

i could feasibly see myself switching entirely or nearly entirely, but like most people in here the cost is the main issue, but thatll go down with time, it just doesnt really have the economy of scale quite yet
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Im an omnivore and I sometimes eat the stuff

I like to think of it as reverse engineered meat

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If it could perfectly mimic the taste and texture of the meat that it is supposed to be replacing, then sure.


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Bugmeat posted...

If it could perfectly mimic the taste and texture of the meat that it is supposed to be replacing, then sure.

Itll get there soon

Id day the impossible burger is at like 90% of the way there

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Mead posted...

Bugmeat posted...

If it could perfectly mimic the taste and texture of the meat that it is supposed to be replacing, then sure.

Itll get there soon

Id day the impossible burger is at like 90% of the way there

For any ground meat application, they are still a long way from something like a steak or a roast.

Most meat substitutes are made of soy, which isn't necessarily healthy.
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

Most meat substitutes are made of soy, which isn't necessarily healthy.

According to an article that I read, the Impossible Burger uses the least healthy variation of the highly processed soy for it's burgers.

https://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/blog/5628/our-beef-with-the-gmo-impossible-burger?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIssm3h6G_5AIVx0XVCh0C_g8DEAAYAyAAEgKgx_D_BwE
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

Most meat substitutes are made of soy, which isn't necessarily healthy.

It isnt necessarily unhealthy either

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Yeah. I read they made their own soy. And so some people arent happy with it. They also use to use gluten. Though, they have changed that. They apparently use a lot of oil, as well. And some people have had some bad reactions to the stuff they use in it. I think they use less healthy things to get it closer to a meat taste. The beyond is suppose to be healthier. But I wonder if they sacrificed taste for health theirs...
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PyroBlade1985 posted...

No. And I'll never eat bugs either.

Unless you've eaten anything with carmine dye (and I'm sure some other dyes use insects as well).
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Sarcasthma posted...

PyroBlade1985 posted...

No. And I'll never eat bugs either.

Unless you've eaten anything with carmine dye (and I'm sure some other dyes use insects as well).

Carmine, cochineal extract, crimson lake, carmine lake, natural red 4, C.I. 75470, or E120 are all synonyms and are very, very common in food and cosmetics. It's an aluminum salt of an extract of a scale insect. It's used in many pink, red, and purple food products, particularly yogurt, candy, and juice.

Another commonly eaten insect product is lac, also known as shellac, pharmaceutical glaze, confectioner's glaze, or E904., which is used as a hard coating on pills and candy.
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This poll is awfully biased friend. A simple yes, no, it depends/sometimes would have sufficed.

To answer the question, no. I've tried veggie burgers, they're gross.

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

No. I've tried veggie burgers, they're gross.

This topic isn't about veggie burgers though
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afrodude77 posted...

More interested in eating insects

Eww.

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captpackrat posted...

Carmine, cochineal extract, crimson lake, carmine lake, natural red 4, C.I. 75470, or E120 are all synonyms and are very, very common in food and cosmetics. It's an aluminum salt of an extract of a scale insect. It's used in many pink, red, and purple food products, particularly yogurt, candy, and juice.

Another commonly eaten insect product is lac, also known as shellac, pharmaceutical glaze, confectioner's glaze, or E904., which is used as a hard coating on pills and candy.

Goddammit! I did not want to know this!

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To try sure.
As a perminate substitute, no. Never.
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I haven't been to BK in a long time. It went down hill.
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CTLM posted...

I eat meat and don't want fake meat. Nothing beats the real thing

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Lil_Bit83 posted...

afrodude77 posted...

More interested in eating insects

Eww.

Wait until you hear what artificial vanilla flavouring is often made of.

Castoreum, which is juice from a gland in a beaver's anus.
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Absolutely! If it can match the price of meat meat (or be cheaper!), that'd be even better!
:D
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captpackrat posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

PyroBlade1985 posted...

No. And I'll never eat bugs either.

Unless you've eaten anything with carmine dye (and I'm sure some other dyes use insects as well).

Carmine, cochineal extract, crimson lake, carmine lake, natural red 4, C.I. 75470, or E120 are all synonyms and are very, very common in food and cosmetics. It's an aluminum salt of an extract of a scale insect. It's used in many pink, red, and purple food products, particularly yogurt, candy, and juice.

Another commonly eaten insect product is lac, also known as shellac, pharmaceutical glaze, confectioner's glaze, or E904., which is used as a hard coating on pills and candy.

On a less insectual but equally icky note, many artificial flavourings and scents make use of castoreum, a substance extracted from the anal scent glands of beavers. Beaver butt juice is in a good chunk of processed food.
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adjl posted...

captpackrat posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

PyroBlade1985 posted...

No. And I'll never eat bugs either.

Unless you've eaten anything with carmine dye (and I'm sure some other dyes use insects as well).

Carmine, cochineal extract, crimson lake, carmine lake, natural red 4, C.I. 75470, or E120 are all synonyms and are very, very common in food and cosmetics. It's an aluminum salt of an extract of a scale insect. It's used in many pink, red, and purple food products, particularly yogurt, candy, and juice.

Another commonly eaten insect product is lac, also known as shellac, pharmaceutical glaze, confectioner's glaze, or E904., which is used as a hard coating on pills and candy.

On a less insectual but equally icky note, many artificial flavourings and scents make use of castoreum, a substance extracted from the anal scent glands of beavers. Beaver butt juice is in a good chunk of processed food.

Faramir77 mentioned that, as well...
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I've tried those burger substitutes and consistency is the biggest issue for me when they start falling apart after one bite.
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LinkPizza posted...

adjl posted...

captpackrat posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

PyroBlade1985 posted...

No. And I'll never eat bugs either.

Unless you've eaten anything with carmine dye (and I'm sure some other dyes use insects as well).

Carmine, cochineal extract, crimson lake, carmine lake, natural red 4, C.I. 75470, or E120 are all synonyms and are very, very common in food and cosmetics. It's an aluminum salt of an extract of a scale insect. It's used in many pink, red, and purple food products, particularly yogurt, candy, and juice.

Another commonly eaten insect product is lac, also known as shellac, pharmaceutical glaze, confectioner's glaze, or E904., which is used as a hard coating on pills and candy.

On a less insectual but equally icky note, many artificial flavourings and scents make use of castoreum, a substance extracted from the anal scent glands of beavers. Beaver butt juice is in a good chunk of processed food.

Faramir77 mentioned that, as well...

Oh hey. I missed that. I blame the spoiler tags.

As for plant-based meat substitutes, I find the whole concept of "meat substitute" to be terribly silly. If I'm not eating meat in a meal, it's because I don't feel that the meal needs meat. I'm not going to jump through hoops to pretend that my not-meat is meat, I'm going to enjoy some vegetables as they are. This obsession with pretending that vegetarian/vegan dishes are actually meat-based ones has always struck me as stupid, because it doesn't fool anyone and you can have perfectly enjoyable bean burgers and the like.
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adjl posted...

LinkPizza posted...

adjl posted...

captpackrat posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

PyroBlade1985 posted...

No. And I'll never eat bugs either.

Unless you've eaten anything with carmine dye (and I'm sure some other dyes use insects as well).

Carmine, cochineal extract, crimson lake, carmine lake, natural red 4, C.I. 75470, or E120 are all synonyms and are very, very common in food and cosmetics. It's an aluminum salt of an extract of a scale insect. It's used in many pink, red, and purple food products, particularly yogurt, candy, and juice.

Another commonly eaten insect product is lac, also known as shellac, pharmaceutical glaze, confectioner's glaze, or E904., which is used as a hard coating on pills and candy.

On a less insectual but equally icky note, many artificial flavourings and scents make use of castoreum, a substance extracted from the anal scent glands of beavers. Beaver butt juice is in a good chunk of processed food.

Faramir77 mentioned that, as well...

Oh hey. I missed that. I blame the spoiler tags.

As for plant-based meat substitutes, I find the whole concept of "meat substitute" to be terribly silly. If I'm not eating meat in a meal, it's because I don't feel that the meal needs meat. I'm not going to jump through hoops to pretend that my not-meat is meat, I'm going to enjoy some vegetables as they are. This obsession with pretending that vegetarian/vegan dishes are actually meat-based ones has always struck me as stupid, because it doesn't fool anyone and you can have perfectly enjoyable bean burgers and the like.

I dont think thats the issue. See, the whole issue is that making beef isnt good for the Earth, so vegans want omnivores and carnivores to stop eating meat. But people dont because they like the meat and how it taste. So, they made plant based burgers that are suppose to taste like the meat they are trying to be.

I think people can also easily enjoy a bean burger and such. But if people couldnt eat real meat, they would still want something that taste exactly the same (or at lest similar).

That being said, burgers are only a small part. We would still need many different flavors of meat from chicken to pork. Also, more of the cow. Making a burger is one thing. And it took a while to make it, IIRC. Now, they would need to work on things like steak and such...
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Id try it but being more expensive and being a meat eater I'll stick to regular meat.
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The earth doesnt really give a fuck

Growing meat as food is bad for humans and the environment we need to survive. The antibiotics make diseases stronger as they become more resistant, the methane is pretty much the biggest contributor to greenhouse gas emissions, the waste runoff contaminates fresh water sources, and fertilizer runoff causes red tide in the oceans where algae populations explode so rapidly that they make the entire area of the sea hypoxic and everything there dies from lack of oxygen in the water.

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I am not going to eat heavily processed plants as a fake substitute for the real thing dammit

icoyar we both know that youre gonna eat whatever the fuck your mom cooks for you so its her you need to go bitch at

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Mead posted...

The earth doesnt really give a fuck

Growing meat as food is bad for humans and the environment we need to survive. The antibiotics make diseases stronger as they become more resistant, the methane is pretty much the biggest contributor to greenhouse gas emissions, the waste runoff contaminates fresh water sources, and fertilizer runoff causes red tide in the oceans where algae populations explode so rapidly that they make the entire area of the sea hypoxic and everything there dies from lack of oxygen in the water.

When I say bad for the Earth, thats what I mean. The Earth itself will be fine. We just wont be able to live in the surface... Well, out descendants. Not until they evolve to...

As for the antibiotics, out do the same, dont they. I dont see that as the biggest problem as itll most likely happen, anyway...
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