Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 237: You Never Go Ass to Monmouth

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Do not congratulate: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1168391562184859648?s=21
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Do not congratulate: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1168391562184859648?s=21

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1168392373606465537?s=20

He even physically backs away from the question.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Do not congratulate: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1168391562184859648?s=21

I would love to see Trump be forced to answer high school level trivia about world history

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I think we need a requirement of a basic understanding of civics and US History in order to be President.

Like... here's a test that 8th graders are expected to pass. If you fail, you cannot run for President. (Or any other office, actually). I mean if you don't know 8th grade history, should you really be allowed to have any power over government?
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Ashethan posted...

I think we need a requirement of a basic understanding of civics and US History in order to be President.

Like... here's a test that 8th graders are expected to pass. If you fail, you cannot run for President. (Or any other office, actually). I mean if you don't know 8th grade history, should you really be allowed to have any power over government?

But who would write the test? Here's an example:

1. Which one of the following is prohibited by the Constitution?

a. Creationism
b. Hate speech
c. Climate change
d. Gun control

2. Which party was created to abolish slavery?

a. Republicans
b. Democrats
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1 is none of the above, so not off to a great start...!
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LordoftheMorons posted...

1 is none of the above, so not off to a great start...!

And then we ban you from running for office because you got it "wrong." See the problem?
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How about can you name all 50 states?

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Jakyl25 posted...

How about can you name all 50 states?

Before you can become president, you must get 100% on this Sporcle quiz
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NC's state-level gerrymandering was struck down in state court today as against the state constitution. GOP has declined to appeal (NC Supreme Court is 6-1 Dem so lol.) The court ordered the legislature to redraw the maps (with restrictions) within the next two weeks or they'll appoint a special master to do it.

North Carolina was one of five (I think) states where Democrats won the popular vote across the state in 2018 but got a minority of seats (55-65).

It's also the 11th time the GOP has lost in court on gerrymandering since 2013 in NC.
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How did the Dems get 6-1 on the state Supreme Court?
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https://twitter.com/RobProvince/status/1169011494241128450

But remember, the idea that the left controls the entertainment industry is just some crazy, racist, conspiracy theory...
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SmartMuffin posted...

https://twitter.com/RobProvince/status/1169011494241128450

But remember, the idea that the left controls the entertainment industry is just some crazy, racist, conspiracy theory...

If the left controlled the entertainment industry, why would it even be allowed to air?

i dont think anyone is disputing that entertainment criticism media leans heavily left

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Also thats based on a whopping 6 reviews

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So, are the opposition parties in Parliament going to keep Boris as PM to avoid an election but govern from Parliament by passing bills by majority vote?

I guess the nuclear option would be for Boris to advise the Queen to refuse royal assent to such bills until Parliament agrees to hold an election.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Also thats based on a whopping 6 reviews

the fact that the critics refuse to even watch or review it is a point in my favor, genius :)
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Also, who gets to have a public voice?

is Dave Chappelle not being given a public voice? Are all those user reviews, presented on equal footing to the professional reviews, not being given a public voice?

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SmartMuffin posted...

the fact that the critics refuse to even watch or review it is a point in my favor, genius :)

Um, no, not really

Like I dont even follow the logic that leads to this conclusion

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I... don't see how you don't. What's your explanation as to why a controversial new special by one of the most famous and revered living comedians would have so few professional reviews?
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Like how does choosing not to comment on a major comedians gigantically hyped and featured special on the most popular streaming platform in America equate to controlling the entertainment industry?

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SmartMuffin posted...

I... don't see how you don't. What's your explanation as to why a controversial new special by one of the most famous and revered living comedians would have so few professional reviews?

Thats fine if your point is lol liberals cant handle Dave Chappelle dropping truth bombs.

but that wasnt your point.

do you think that, in their minds, leftists choosing not to review his special somehow deplatforms him significantly?

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red sox 777 posted...

How did the Dems get 6-1 on the state Supreme Court?

turns out you can't gerrymander state-wide races

Less snarky: By winning state-wide elections. From 2004-2016 the NC judicial races were non-partisan. In the lead-up to 2016 the NC GOP attempted a number of power grabs that ended in miserable failure.

Going into 2016, the GOP held a 4-3 majority on the court. GOP Legislature tried to give a GOP judge up for reelection the option to go for a retention election rather than against other candidates. (Voters would have the option to vote for/against the judge. If against won, the governor (then Republican) would appoint a replacement. It was challenged in court and found unconstitutional (by a lower court, the Supreme Court split 3-3 with the judge in question recused so the lower ruling stood.) The Legislature also passed a law to have the party affiliation on the ballot though it was technically still non-partisan.

The Democratic candidate won with 54% of the vote.

When 2018 came around the legislature made judicial elections fully partisan and then also cancelled primary elections so any amount of candidates of the same party could run. This backfired when a guy changed his affiliation to Republican the day he filed to run. He got 16.4% of the vote. The GOP incumbent got 34%, Democratic candidate won with 49.6%. Democrats swept judicial elections in 2018 (3 Court of Appeals seats were up and 2 were GOP->Dem flips.)

In 2019, the GOP Chief Justice retired. Governor appointed one of the associates to chief justice and then appointed a Court of Appeals judge to the vacancy, this seat will be up for election in 2020 along with the sole remaining GOP seat and the Chief Justice whose term when first elected ends.
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I am super to the left and that shit was hilarious.
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Ouch. Sounds like the NC GOP shouldn't have allowed judges to be elected directly. Should have required confirmation by the state senate.
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red sox 777 posted...

Ouch. Sounds like the NC GOP shouldn't have allowed judges to be elected directly. Should have required confirmation by the state senate.

Unconstitutional.

The NC State Constitution explicitly states Supreme Court Judges are to be elected by the voters in state-wide elections for eight year terms and has since 1868.
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xp1337 posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Ouch. Sounds like the NC GOP shouldn't have allowed judges to be elected directly. Should have required confirmation by the state senate.

Unconstitutional.

The NC State Constitution explicitly states Supreme Court Judges are to be elected by the voters in state-wide elections for eight year terms and has since 1868.

https://www.ncpedia.org/government/convention-1868

Apparently that constitutional convention had 107 out of 120 delegates as Republicans. My point stands.
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I mean, technically!
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SmartMuffin posted...

I... don't see how you don't. What's your explanation as to why a controversial new special by one of the most famous and revered living comedians would have so few professional reviews?

Your argument is that the left controls the entertainment industry.

So then wouldn't they be overloading the special with negative reviews?

I'm pretty sure "I'll show those republicans! I won't review it! Ah-ha, got'em!" is not a viable tactic of control.
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Also, you kinda lose the right to compare review count as some "Gotcha!" moment when after one week, Sticks & Stones has 7 reviews, and after one week, Nanette had 4 reviews.
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HashtagSEP posted...

Also, you kinda lose the right to compare review count as some "Gotcha!" moment when after one week, Sticks & Stones has 7 reviews, and after one week, Nanette had 4 reviews.

Im not sure what the point of a many weeks late review of a comedy special is, to be honest

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Jakyl25 posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

Also, you kinda lose the right to compare review count as some "Gotcha!" moment when after one week, Sticks & Stones has 7 reviews, and after one week, Nanette had 4 reviews.

Im not sure what the point of a many weeks late review of a comedy special is, to be honest

Clearly to control the entertainment industry, duh
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Lmao Boris:
https://twitter.com/georgewparker/status/1169004314087624705?s=21

Wish Republicans would do this to Trump, but its become clear that its not going to happen at this point (which is the thing thats most surprised me about his presidency; nothing Trump has done has really surprised me, but the GOP has managed to underperform even my very low expectations in opposing his worst actions).
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Lmao Boris:
https://twitter.com/georgewparker/status/1169004314087624705?s=21

Wish Republicans would do this to Trump, but its become clear that its not going to happen at this point (which is the thing thats most surprised me about his presidency; nothing Trump has done has really surprised me, but the GOP has managed to underperform even my very low expectations in opposing his worst actions).

If the GOP ran the UK they would have left the EU on March 29, quite possibly with a good deal, much better than Theresa May's. Of course, the GOP would never have called the referendum in the first place.
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But Boris is right- the remainers are sabotaging Brexit by taking away as much of the UK's leverage as possible. Thus, no good deal will be on offer and the choice will be between no deal and remain.

The Republican Party, and, I daresay, the Tory Party that built the Empire, would not make such a mistake as self-sabotage.
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Maybe Brexit will teach those limey Brits that their referendum policy is a horrendously stupid way of decision making.
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Also, the Fixed Terms Parliaments Act was not well thought out. If you are going to have fixed terms you can't have a executive based on the confidence of the parliament at the same time. You either decouple the executive from the legislature and have separate elections, or you mandate new elections when the executive loses the confidence of the legislature, which necessarily requires not having fixed terms. Here, we've had this strange twilight world when they had an election in 2017 even though the government already had the confidence of Parliament, but today, the government obviously does not have the confidence of Parliament yet Parliament does not want a new election or to get rid of the government.

I would say the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949 were also ill-advised. They dramatically reduced the UK's system of checks and balances resulting in a bare majority of the Commons wielding dictatorial power. Moreover, the King's acquiescence to such a radical request by the PM to threaten to stack the House of Lords with cronies destroyed another check and balance. Thus, in a single shot, both the House of Lords and the monarch were removed from the picture and the House of Commons (and the PM) was left with no checks on its power.

I feel like the King made a terrible mistake in 1911 - he should have listened politely to the PM's advice and announced that he would not follow it because it was blatantly unconstitutional. Then fired the PM and called new elections.
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I'll give red sox this - the FTPA is terrible. Only exists to prop up weak governments. Everything else he says is lunacy.

The Tories are screwed, as Labour+Lib Dem+SNP is now an effective majority. There might not need to be an election, and if there is Bojo will really struggle for a majority. Bojo is essentially out of government and no deal brexit is thankfully dead. It was an insane idea to begin with, holding yourself to ransom as a negotiating tactic.
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Also on this topic, John McDonnell is on fire in Parliament right now. Highly recommend checking out the livestream, very powerful speech about Tory austerity. Also this line:

[In response to Boris shouting] "The last time he was shouting at someone, they had to call the police!"
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https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/04/politics/marianne-williamson-hurricane-dorian-tweet-trnd/index.html

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Was just about to post that
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Alright you guys go ahead and vote for whatever policy wonk you want. I'll be voting for the person that can stop hurricanes with their mind, thank you very much.
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Pretty depressing thread about one persons radicalization catalyzed by brexit:

https://twitter.com/cyrusbales/status/1168842335637168128?s=21
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https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1168183664322105344?s=19

The only candidate capable of rivaling QAnon's power over hurricanes
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Pretty depressing thread about one persons radicalization catalyzed by brexit:

https://twitter.com/cyrusbales/status/1168842335637168128?s=21

This would not have happened if liberals had accepted the result of the referendum and supported Brexit.
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So now the UK government is legally obligated to seek an extension from the EU to......accept Theresa May's agreement? Because there were no tellers to count the no votes on an amendment.

I wonder if this isn't some pretext for advising the Queen to refuse royal assent (the PM can say, this bill doesn't reflect the will of Parliament, it was voted through because of the absence of tellers to count the votes).
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Also, that's ridiculous. If there are no tellers, you should get some and then count the votes. Not pass the amendment by voice vote in the chamber because all of the no voters are in "no" lobby.
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Corbyn just went in on Johnson, it was great

Seeing a few mumblings of "damn I can't believe I'm about to say this but Corbyn has done well the last few days" around recently, too. Maybe things are turning around. Maybe.

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Trump tripling down on lying about hurricane Dorian and Alabama:

https://twitter.com/jproskowglobal/status/1169315111636520960?s=21

Cant wait until next time where its the other way around and hes saying that a hurricane isnt going to hit a place that it is
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That's also literally illegal.
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that map thing may be top 5 funniest Trump moments

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