Board 8 > Are you going to play WoW classic?

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CoolCly posted...

I'm not saying somebody shouldn't be brought to content because they don't have a brez. I'm saying I don't like that so many people have battle rez. To me, the ideal balance is that somebody is brought because they have something else just as useful as brez.

My ideal vision for balance is the way dota 2 does it - which is perfectly illustrated by this comic. In dota 2, there are no bad heroes. In fact, every single hero is overpowered in it's own way. Every hero is played, every hero is good, they are just all good for their own unique reason.

So there is nothing as good as a brez, beyond just making a characters dps/hps significantly higher, which brings (obviously) it's own issues.

And the dota 2 thing is a really cute statement and if it was possible for game balance to achieve that, it would be great. But it's actually objectively false.

https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/winning
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this topic is really bizarre
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Xiahou Shake posted...

Dropping WoW was probably one of the biggest improvements I ever made to my life so no, I don't believe I will.

I've felt this way about MMOs in general the past couple of years, and I don't think I'd go back to one at this point even if someone tried to drag me into one again. They're also really really bad for my OCD.

I probably will, but I suspect I will either take 8 months to get to level 60 or I will just quit after I get my level 40 mount.

What WoW Classic is really offering (to me) is the 1-60 experience where everyone is low level and exploring and engaging in all of the zones and Azeroth content. It's like a new MMO dropping - starter zones thriving, etc.
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v_charon posted...

I tried to make peace and whatever but you're just a thick skulled dude who claims that the person you're arguing with doesn't want to see anything but his own way, while blissfully ignoring anyone else's points of views (as you did there, writing off what were legit examples of class differences because you didn't like it). So yeah I'm done with the argument. To each his own, keep defending a broken game I guess.

v_charon posted...

Maybe, just maybe, you're not realizing the way you're coming across.

Cly's argument makes sense to me and I don't see why you're getting so defensive about it. Everybody should bring something, and maybe even be some small measure of overlap so you don't need one specific spec since that makes raid composition obnoxious, but there shouldn't be a tremendous amount of overlap. I don't know the particulars of contemporary WoW, but throughout the period I did play, the class designs gradually migrates from one of uniqueness to one of homogenization. The reputation the game has is that this trend continued to a degree that what class you choose to play is almost as cosmetic as which race you pick. Obviously a warrior isn't going to heal and a mage isn't going to tank, but there's little concern for worrying about raid make-up unless you're trying to squeeze the last 1% of efficiency out of the system, and elite raid teams are going to do that no matter what the circumstances. So on one hand, you don't have someone sitting because their class is unneeded. I have personally had to sit on raids, so I certainly know what that's like. On the other, when you are part of a raid, you do like to feel like there's a reason you're there beyond just pewpewpew.
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You're speaking about Classic as if it is that system. It isn't. The games are night and day; currently yeah there's no big raid composition scheme, but was it really better in Classic where there was a scheme but it was so specific it locked out many specs entirely? I just don't get how that's better.
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Because raiding was only one thing about the experience. Enhancement Shaman wasn't much of a thing in raid but there were videos about them one shotting clothies. Shadow priests weren't viable due to debuff limits but were terrors in PVP. There were different niches.

Also the fact of the matter is, with what we know now and the improvements from the players, everything is viable in raid because I suspect the best ret paladin in the world can do more damage than most fury warriors back then just due to more knowledge now.
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Okay, so I did it. I paid for one month's subscription, logged onto Westfall server (which looks to be new since the population on it's only medium and the server list is definitely longer than it had been,) and created two characters. Now I just need to make the call between hunter and priest.

I will be level-rushing. It's just what I do. New server, new ladder, if you will. The question is which class to play.

Hunter is the faster class, of course. If I'm truly aiming to get server first to 60, I should do hunter. Thing is, I haven't played in ten years. I wasn't in the beta. I'm simply not going to remember where everything is, even if I literally spend all day today reading my old leveling guide. And I'm only one person. The last time I rushed a new server, the first to 60 was a tag-team by a brother and sister who played round the clock. I was one of five people to have hit 50 when they capped out.

However, on that server, I was playing priest, the other class I know well. And even if I was the 5th to cap (4th Alliance), I was a valuable commodity afterwards. If I plan on continuing to play past the initial grind, a priest is initially far more valuable since somebody's gotta play the healer. That server's first five were hunter-hunter-paladin-priest-warrior. They would have been waiting a while to do any 5-mans without me.

So I dunno. I could argue this either way. Hunter is what I'm used to. Priest is better for the immediate time thereafter. Maybe I'll prefer hunter again, if we go to the extreme long run -- although right now I'm hoping I don't get addicted to WoW again.

And maybe I quit within 24 hours. That's always possible, too.
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