Current Events > Dayton shooter may be antifa's first mass killer

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ChopinList
08/07/19 12:08:33 AM
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https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton-shooter-may-be-antifas-first-mass-killer/

Democratic presidential candidates Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders succinctly condemned white nationalism the ideology espoused by the El Paso shooter in his purported 2,300-word manifesto. However, when it comes to condemning the Dayton shooters militant far-left views, all remain mum. Others, such as anti-police activist Shaun King, even claimed the Dayton shooter targeted blacks in a hate crime, though racism doesnt appear to have been a component of his twisted worldview. Betts had long expressed support for antifa accounts, causes and individuals. That would be the loose network of militant leftist activists who physically attack anyone to the right of Mao in the name of anti-fascism. In particular, Betts promoted extreme hatred of American border enforcement.

Kill every fascist, the shooter declared in 2018 on twitter, echoing a rallying cry of antifa ideologues. Over the next year, his tweets became increasingly violent. Nazis deserve death and nothing else, he tweeted last October. Betts frequently flung the label Nazi at those with whom he disagreed online. By December, he reached out on Twitter to the Socialist Rifle Association, an antifa gun group, to comment about bump stocks, and the SRA responded to him. (A bump stock is an attachment for semiautomatic rifles that allow them to fire much faster.) In the months leading to his rampage, Betts expressed a longing for climactic confrontation. In response to an essay by Intercept writer Mehdi Hassan titled, Yes, Lets Defeat or Impeach Trumpbut What If He Doesnt Leave the White House? the shooter wrote: Arm, train, prepare. By June he tweeted: I want socialism, and Ill not wait for the idiots to finally come round understanding. Last week, he promoted posts that demonized Sens. Ted Cruz and Bill Cassidys resolution against antifa extremism.

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Blackstar110
08/07/19 9:32:08 AM
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Dude went to a bar and shot his sister

He was a deranged loser, but not a politically motivated terrorist
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Were_Wyrm
08/07/19 9:34:23 AM
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Great now we'll never hear the end of it...
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Hanky_Bannister
08/07/19 9:39:18 AM
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is antifa anti racism? dude was obviously racist
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pogo_rabid
08/07/19 9:43:08 AM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
is antifa anti racism? dude was obviously racist

Antifa is absolutely not anti racism.
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IShall_Run_Amok
08/07/19 9:46:49 AM
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W-We finally got one! T-Take that liberals! *sniffle sniffle, sob sob*
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justaguy3492
08/07/19 9:47:55 AM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Antifa is absolutely not anti racism


Lol let me guess "they're racist towards white people!"
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bover_87
08/07/19 9:48:03 AM
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Perpetrator
Soon after the attack, law enforcement confirmed that the gunman was Connor Stephen Betts, a 24-year-old from Bellbrook, Ohio.[21][12][22] On Betts' Twitter account, he described himself as a leftist, anime fan, and metalhead. He had posted tweets that opposed Donald Trump and supported Elizabeth Warren, socialism, and Satan.[23][24][25] Although many of his tweets were mundane and non-political, he had retweeted posts that supported the antifa movement and opposed U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents and police officers. In the hours before he opened fire in Dayton, he "liked" a post in favor of gun control, and several concerning the 2019 El Paso shooting, including a tweet that called the El Paso shooter a "terrorist" and a "white supremacist."[25] An FBI investigation is still ongoing, but an official said that the perpetrator was associated with incel groups.[26]

According to Newsweek, Betts was registered as a voter in Greene County, Ohio, as a Democrat.[27] According to law enforcement, Betts had no criminal record except for minor traffic offenses.[28][29][30]

Two former high school classmates stated that Betts was suspended from Bellbrook High School after he made lists of other students he wanted to kill and rape.[31] The "hit list" was discovered in early 2012 and resulted in a police investigation.[31] A classmate also stated that Betts was bullied and had planned to shoot up the school.[28] The notion of Betts having been bullied was disputed by other classmates, who described him as a bully, reporting that he enjoyed scaring people while attending school.[24] Over the past year, Betts performed live vocals for a pornogrind band called Menstrual Munchies, which Vice News described as a "misogynistic, male-dominated" music scene, and Buzzfeed described as focused on gore, violence, and necrophilia, and known for its dark, satirical themes of sexual violence delivered for shock value.[32][33] Betts' high school girlfriend stated that at the time they dated Betts complained of visual and auditory hallucinations, and psychosis, and was afraid of developing schizophrenia.[34][35]

During the day, police and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) searched the shooter's home and found writings that showed interest in killing people, with a preliminary assessment of the writings indicating the shooter had no racial motive or political motive.[6] As of August 5, 2019, police investigators stated that the investigation is ongoing and that they are not prepared to speculate about motivation.[36][6] On August 5, Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl stated that "We have a lot of evidence still to go through...based on where we're at now, we are not seeing any indication of race being a motive"[37] and that police had not determined whether he shot his sister deliberately or unknowingly.[37]

Betts had additional ammunition magazines with him, and was wearing body armor, a mask and hearing protection during the attack.[9][38] He reportedly ordered the semi-automatic firearm[a] used in the shooting online from Texas, and the firearm was transferred to a local firearms dealer in Ohio, where he picked it up.[10]


He's not Antifa, and he was probably schizophrenic.

EDIT: from wikipedia
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Gafemage
08/07/19 9:50:23 AM
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Hanky_Bannister posted...
is antifa anti racism? dude was obviously racist

I havent seen any news reports indicating this...
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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/07/19 9:51:25 AM
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"By any means necessary" is a call to violence against the political opposition. Turns out that wanting to injure or kill people based on their beliefs is bad.

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creativerealms
08/07/19 9:53:33 AM
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If he killed for his left wing beliefs sure. But weren't his main target his sister?
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Sackgurl
08/07/19 9:57:02 AM
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what a surprise that OP is so eager to politicize this tragedy

what a sick thing to do
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Blackstar110
08/07/19 9:57:25 AM
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creativerealms posted...
If he killed for his left wing beliefs sure. But weren't his main target his sister?

Yes

People BIG reaching here
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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/07/19 9:58:42 AM
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Turns out that this is the kind of stupid you have to be to buy into the "But what if Trump doesnt leave office?!?!" schtick. Mayyyyybe see how things go before you start constructing murder fantasies.

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BobanMarjanovic
08/07/19 9:59:43 AM
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justaguy3492 posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
Antifa is absolutely not anti racism


Lol let me guess "they're racist towards white people!"


Antifa hates white people where have you been
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Balrog0
08/07/19 10:00:11 AM
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y'all seen this?

https://medium.com/@_adeliajohnson_/my-ex-boyfriend-was-the-dayton-shooter-2b7f2d792b68
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StealthRock
08/07/19 10:01:24 AM
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Who cares??

They are still white supremacist terrorists of the same coin. Deal with that snd the problem will be solved
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StealthRock
08/07/19 10:01:57 AM
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BobanMarjanovic posted...
justaguy3492 posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
Antifa is absolutely not anti racism


Lol let me guess "they're racist towards white people!"


Antifa hates white people where have you been

So why did the shooter target and kill blacks then??
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Sackgurl
08/07/19 10:02:46 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
y'all seen this?

https://medium.com/@_adeliajohnson_/my-ex-boyfriend-was-the-dayton-shooter-2b7f2d792b68


i'm sure they will not read it because they've already decided on the narrative they want to scream as loud as possible

but this part is pretty relevant

I have no idea what his motivation was. I will never know. But there are a few things that Im certain that it wasnt. This wasnt a hate crime. He fought for equality. This wasnt a crime of passion. He didnt get passionate enough. This wasnt very premeditated. He wasnt a thorough planner.

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Gafemage
08/07/19 10:04:02 AM
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BobanMarjanovic posted...
justaguy3492 posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
Antifa is absolutely not anti racism


Lol let me guess "they're racist towards white people!"


Antifa hates white people where have you been

Antifa is like 90% white people though lmao
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Tropicalwood
08/07/19 10:05:10 AM
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Actually maybe that was the El Paso one that was outed for that crap.
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YourDrunkFather
08/07/19 10:06:59 AM
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BobanMarjanovic posted...
justaguy3492 posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
Antifa is absolutely not anti racism


Lol let me guess "they're racist towards white people!"


Antifa hates white people where have you been


Not just that but they have a tendency of being racist to minoritys who dont fall in line. Like to call black cops coons and race traitors and shit like that.
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EndOfDiscOne
08/07/19 10:08:50 AM
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Gafemage posted...
BobanMarjanovic posted...
justaguy3492 posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
Antifa is absolutely not anti racism


Lol let me guess "they're racist towards white people!"


Antifa hates white people where have you been

Antifa is like 90% white people though lmao

I remember a video of an Antifa traffic stop, and a white Antifa guy calling someone a "white motherfucker" lol
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Tmaster148
08/07/19 10:10:19 AM
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It's really sad how much the right really wants this guy to be a left wing shooter when politics likely had nothing to the incident.
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MC_BatCommander
08/07/19 10:11:53 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
It's really sad how much the right really wants this guy to be a left wing shooter when politics likely had nothing to the incident.


Yeah they always do that.
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gunplagirl
08/07/19 10:12:17 AM
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Blackstar110 posted...
Dude went to a bar and shot his sister

He was a deranged loser, but not a politically motivated terrorist


This. Not even an exaggeration on the deranged part, he was having hallucinations. :/
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CyricZ
08/07/19 10:14:11 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
y'all seen this?

https://medium.com/@_adeliajohnson_/my-ex-boyfriend-was-the-dayton-shooter-2b7f2d792b68

Thanks man.

Also don't read the comments on that article.
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gunplagirl
08/07/19 10:16:39 AM
#32:


BobanMarjanovic posted...
justaguy3492 posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
Antifa is absolutely not anti racism


Lol let me guess "they're racist towards white people!"


Antifa hates white people where have you been


They really don't. They hate the social hierarchy wherein white people are unfairly pushed up while minorities are pushed down. And yeah, the social structure was by design, a lot of the key features being implanted on a wide scale in city development policies that were used during Jim Crowe.
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Dark_SilverX
08/07/19 10:19:32 AM
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I'm pretty sure the Ohio Mass murderer was upset his sister was getting tons of BBCs. Maybe daddy put it into his head?

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Jerry_Hellyeah
08/07/19 10:22:24 AM
#34:


Hairistotle posted...
Blackstar110 posted...
creativerealms posted...
If he killed for his left wing beliefs sure. But weren't his main target his sister?

Yes

People BIG reaching here

centrists and people on the right NEED to lie about shit like this. if the truth was out there without them constantly trying to muddy things, everyone would see how plainly evil they are


Evil is not a thing. Theres nothing to be gained from "evil is bad".

Im assuming youre talking about a shooter and not just making the shitty hateful statement that centrists and people on the right are "evil".
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pogo_rabid
08/07/19 12:57:05 PM
#35:


Antifa are scum.

On the same level as neo nazis imo. Both groups should burn.
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Gafemage
08/07/19 1:01:21 PM
#36:


pogo_rabid posted...
Antifa are scum.

On the same level as neo nazis imo. Both groups should burn.

The fact that you already posted ITT then came back three hours later unprompted to post this is weird, to me.
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MrToothHasYou
08/07/19 1:08:17 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Antifa are scum.

On the same level as neo nazis imo. Both groups should burn.
Counterpoint: Antifa are good. Antifa is community self-defense.

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pogo_rabid
08/07/19 2:56:18 PM
#38:


MrToothHasYou posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
Antifa are scum.

On the same level as neo nazis imo. Both groups should burn.
Counterpoint: Antifa are good. Antifa is community self-defense.


Ditto: nazis

They're all scum. I envy people who have the ability to jump through the mental gymnastics to support either group.
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Zikten
08/07/19 3:40:53 PM
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antifa are racist to minorities actually. most antifa are white. and many of them hate black people, asians and hispanics unless those conform to their views. any minority that doesn't agree with antifa gets treated with racist attacks
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Hanky_Bannister
08/07/19 3:46:47 PM
#41:


Zikten posted...
antifa are racist to minorities actually. most antifa are white. and many of them hate black people, asians and hispanics unless those conform to their views. any minority that doesn't agree with antifa gets treated with racist attacks

Source?
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Zikten
08/07/19 3:47:32 PM
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I've seen videos of black conservatives getting verbally assaulted by antifa
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MrToothHasYou
08/07/19 3:55:43 PM
#43:


Zikten posted...
antifa are racist to minorities actually. most antifa are white. and many of them hate black people, asians and hispanics unless those conform to their views. any minority that doesn't agree with antifa gets treated with racist attacks
Treating someone with disdain for supporting racist, fascist, or otherwise bigoted politics, regardless of their race, is actually the opposite of racist.

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Villain
08/07/19 3:57:09 PM
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He was also an anime fan, so let's blame anime.
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FrozenXylophone
08/07/19 3:59:34 PM
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He may have been anti-fa

But he didn't shoot up an alt right rally so his act wasn't really antifa

It seems he didn't want a black brother in law
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IShall_Run_Amok
08/07/19 4:45:17 PM
#46:


Zikten posted...
I've seen videos of black conservatives getting verbally assaulted by antifa

Its almost as if Antifa hate conservatism.
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Giant_Aspirin
08/07/19 4:50:49 PM
#47:


Blackstar110 posted...
He was a deranged loser, but not a politically motivated terrorist


this is really all that needs to be said
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HiddenRoar
08/08/19 12:18:33 AM
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FrozenXylophone posted...

It seems he didn't want a black brother in law


An attack based on race.

So a hate crime.

Checkmate.
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Perascamin
08/08/19 1:25:33 AM
#49:


Tmaster148 posted...
It's really sad how much the right really wants this guy to be a left wing shooter when politics likely had nothing to the incident.

So what you're saying is that the white gunman was mentally ill?
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Kolibri X
08/08/19 1:38:25 AM
#50:


That dude who shot those Republicans on that baseball field was a Berniebro too. I hear a lot of threats of violence from left wingers against Republicans and Trump. Some on it on CE as well. And they circle jerk about it like some sick revenge fantasy. Very scary people.
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kingdrake2
08/08/19 1:54:29 AM
#51:


Dark_SilverX posted...
I'm pretty sure the Ohio Mass murderer was upset his sister was getting tons of BBCs. Maybe daddy put it into his head?


i think it's the theory of an honor killing. he wanted to avenge his honor for what his sister did to him by dating a black man. sister paid the price and everyone loses.
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