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Caution999 07/19/19 9:46:20 AM #51: |
Hanky_Bannister posted...
Caution999 posted...We're forced to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and boomers were forced to be drafted into Nam. My point is our generation hasn't really faced any real adversity compared to the ones before us. If your biggest complaint is reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, that means we got it easy. With exception to the HEROES who decided to sign up for service and put themselves into Iraq, Afghanistan, SK, etc etc --- The best posts, believe me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kickflip 07/19/19 9:47:55 AM #52: |
Imagine being a kid in Texas. You've gotta recite the Texas pledge too lol
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TheOnionKnight 07/19/19 9:50:39 AM #53: |
It should be outlawed in schools. It's totally un-American. All this talk about war heroes and respecting the country is bullshit. The Pledge of Allegiance spits on the country and shames its heroes. America was not built to brainwash children.
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JBaLLEN66 07/19/19 9:55:22 AM #54: |
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
How pointless of a life does one have to live where saying the pledge of allegiance in school 12+ years ago causes one to get upset? Are you serious right now?!? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdR2Iktffaw The day Capitalism was humiliated :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evolician 07/19/19 10:17:33 AM #55: |
I remember one day when I was in first grade I got written up for not standing during the pledge once. How dare this child not swear allegiance to something he cant understand !!!
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Romes187 07/19/19 10:19:43 AM #56: |
I always liked doing the pledge
And the ideals the flag stands for are worth pledging allegiance towards Obviously those ideals arent always met...but what better way to meet them than attempting to instill their importance to the youth Or its nationalistic brainwashing. Theres probably some of that too since young kids likely dont understand what those ideals even are or really mean or how important they are. Theyre too busy having fun being kids. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 07/19/19 10:42:30 AM #57: |
Evolician posted...
I remember one day when I was in first grade I got written up for not standing during the pledge once. How dare this child not swear allegiance to something he cant understand !!! Lol that's ridiculous. I remember when I was kindergarten one time I was kinda underneath this circular table (there was no room with all the kids in the way) for the Pledge. One kid pointed it out and everyone laughed and it was a positive laughter. They all thought I was funny, so I would always go underneath this table when we did the Pledge because everyone loved when I did it. This maybe lasted a week or 2 until the teacher told me to stop :( People would STILL bring it up to me in High School because they fondly remembered it. --- The best posts, believe me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOnionKnight 07/19/19 11:16:38 AM #58: |
Romes187 posted...
Or its nationalistic brainwashing. Theres probably some of that too since young kids likely dont understand what those ideals even are or really mean or how important they are. It's nationalistic brainwashing. Young kids can't sincerely "pledge allegiance" to anything. Moreover, if someone were sincere, they wouldn't need to be forced to repeat the pledge, on command, every weekday for years. They'd believe it in their hearts. This monotonous recitation in schools is pure indoctrination. --- The owls are not what they seem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 07/19/19 11:18:29 AM #59: |
Yeah it's pretty fucked up when you think about it. Literally trying to condition children
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Romes187 07/19/19 11:39:49 AM #60: |
TheOnionKnight posted...
Romes187 posted...Or its nationalistic brainwashing. Theres probably some of that too since young kids likely dont understand what those ideals even are or really mean or how important they are. Yeah but what if the only way to get people to believe in those ideals is to do something like that Instead of trying to convert someone thats seen the world and reality and might be a bit jaded. Not saying it is, but it could be ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOnionKnight 07/19/19 12:26:47 PM #61: |
If forced indoctrination is the only way to get people to believe in "liberty and justice," then there is no liberty or justice.
Besides, the pledge is about instilling blind nationalism, not a proper value system. --- The owls are not what they seem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 07/19/19 12:40:56 PM #62: |
The only thing creepier was the times I went to church. The collective speaking to an imaginary person (then giving money obvs) always felt wrong and I bailed around middle school.
But yeah the fucking pledge wtf. --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Awesome 07/19/19 12:47:41 PM #63: |
wait so you think the usa is the only country that does this? its called being a citizen of the country you are born into and have allegiance to.
wow this is disturbing how so many people in the usa are getting brainwashed to hate the usa. --- Hello. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KStateKing17 07/19/19 12:48:01 PM #64: |
I think its weird to have people recite it before sporting events and for kids to have to do the same before class. It literally has nothing to do with those events. Its something that could still be taught in class when discussing US history.
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SuperShake666 07/19/19 12:50:52 PM #66: |
They only added the God part during the Cold War as some anti-communism thing. It's legit pointless and stupid.
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V-E-G-Y- 07/19/19 12:52:27 PM #67: |
I was thinking of dis a few days ago, dis shit sounds like mind manipulation shit like how you see in WWII documentaries of how Germany brainwashed children and shit lol
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ledbowman 07/19/19 12:55:51 PM #68: |
You would think if they're gonna have you do the pledge they'd at least hold up their end of it.
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Romes187 07/19/19 12:56:07 PM #69: |
TheOnionKnight posted...
If forced indoctrination is the only way to get people to believe in "liberty and justice," then there is no liberty or justice. No what I'm saying is what if the only possible way to actually achieve liberty and justice is to instill it prior to becoming aware of what it actually is to protect against the resentment acquired from realizing the lack of upholding the ideal (which will be inherent in every single society). That would be a bummer if reality was setup like that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 07/19/19 4:00:26 PM #70: |
ledbowman posted...
You would think if they're gonna have you do the pledge they'd at least hold up their end of it. rekt --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 07/19/19 4:01:43 PM #71: |
So tc, you pledged
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iron jojo 07/19/19 4:02:17 PM #72: |
How did that affect you TC? Any long term damage? You ok?
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Sariana21 07/19/19 4:04:25 PM #73: |
That's why James Clavell wrote "The Children's Story." It's a good read.
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MrToothHasYou 07/19/19 4:17:52 PM #74: |
The local country music station has a special feature where each week they go to a local school classroom and record the class of like, 25 first graders saying the pledge and put it on the radio.
Shits wild man. --- http://weareontherun.bandcamp.com ^^^^^ HEY! ^^^ LISTEN! ^^^^^ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Error1355 07/19/19 4:21:19 PM #75: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
So tc, you pledged awww shit me too DAMN! --- Welcome home, shed your skin and expose your bones. Take my hand, follow us into the black so far that we can't get back. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthDemented 07/19/19 4:21:42 PM #76: |
EffectAndCause posted...
Literally in school at 6 years we were being told pledge allegiance to a flag for reasons we didnt even understand and to agree that were all under God...in school. As kids. They were forcing a specific religion on us. No..no they weren't.. --- boobies... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BobanMarjanovic 07/19/19 4:24:00 PM #77: |
Y'all really hate America lol
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darkphoenix181 07/19/19 4:36:32 PM #78: |
Error1355 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...So tc, you pledged Til, even robots have to say the pledge --- "Even if that's not the case, I would prefer this bill fail, since I'd rather see a Democrat get this win instead" - Doom_Art ... Copied to Clipboard!
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twitterfriends 07/19/19 4:40:17 PM #79: |
So fucked up when they started expelling kids who refused to do the pledge
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EternalDivide 07/19/19 4:44:11 PM #80: |
You know what I think about when I hear these types get disturbed by the Pledge. Or US flags. Or anything. All of it. Everything these days that represents our country. All the smarmy, pseudo intellectual, enlightened and self described "educated" people.
Many major powers through history never fell from an outside attack. They all grew so powerful and decadent. So complacent, cut off from reality and ignorant that they all collapsed from the inside. Their own people. Societal collapse. An embracing of stupidity, arrogance and moral corruption. That is what is happening to America now. And that exact sort of leftist demagoguery is what needs to be fought in every election we have in order to prevent it. --- FFVII Remake: A disaster in the making. I'll laugh at whatever I find funny whether you like it or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leanaunfurled 07/19/19 4:52:01 PM #81: |
Aye, it's creepy if you really stop and think about it and how far it goes for a lot of people here.
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Shablagoo 07/19/19 4:52:46 PM #82: |
Sariana21 posted...
That's why James Clavell wrote "The Children's Story." It's a good read. I checked out a plot summary, seems like it would be. --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sariana21 07/19/19 5:03:25 PM #83: |
Shablagoo posted...
Sariana21 posted...That's why James Clavell wrote "The Children's Story." It's a good read. It was a television special, too, but I wouldn't know where to find it now. ETA: It's on YouTube. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RoboLaserGandhi 07/19/19 5:06:16 PM #84: |
I just realized they played Lil Jon's "Get Low" on regular top 40 pop stations and we would listen to that shit on the school bus radio in elementary school.
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EffectAndCause 07/19/19 5:36:34 PM #85: |
An embracing of stupidity, arrogance and moral corruption.
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Hexenherz 07/19/19 5:42:18 PM #86: |
Past like elementary school, or even early elementary school, we stopped doing it daily. Maybe like once on Monday morning, if that, and even then the teachers didn't force us to do it.
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Shablagoo 07/19/19 5:42:59 PM #87: |
Sariana21 posted...
Shablagoo posted...Sariana21 posted...That's why James Clavell wrote "The Children's Story." It's a good read. Nice, gonna have to check it out. I read that Clavells daughter (who inspired the book at age 6) plays the teacher. --- UnfairRepresent: "wut? who are you?" Ivynn: "DAYUM Shablagoo made you meltdown so hard you blocked it and him from your memory!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DD Divine 07/19/19 5:44:08 PM #88: |
Its propaganda bullshit
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Politics 07/19/19 5:47:51 PM #89: |
When I was in High School in Indiana some kids would say the "under god" part REALLY loudly to make a point it was hilarious.
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Esrac 07/19/19 5:53:18 PM #90: |
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brestugo 07/19/19 6:00:37 PM #91: |
Before WWII kids used to do the "Bellamy salute" when saying the pledge. It looked like the nazi salute, so they got rid of it.
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Akagami_Shanks 07/19/19 6:59:46 PM #92: |
people discovering americans are guilty of the very thing they ostracize other countries for
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Philosopher_X 07/19/19 9:16:55 PM #93: |
Akagami_Shanks posted...
people discovering americans are guilty of the very thing they ostracize other countries for Rebranded, repackaged and marketed as "made in America." It's more patriotic that way. --- Don't over complicate the obvious. Don't oversimplify the intricate. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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