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EffectAndCause
07/19/19 8:08:16 AM
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Literally in school at 6 years we were being told pledge allegiance to a flag for reasons we didnt even understand and to agree that were all under God...in school. As kids. They were forcing a specific religion on us.

In 2019 thats fucking frightening to think about, they were essentially brainwashing us like we were in a cult.
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MrResetti
07/19/19 8:08:58 AM
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And they made us do it in English too
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Funkydog
07/19/19 8:09:56 AM
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I don't recall pledging allegiance to a REBELLIOUS, foreign country.
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eston
07/19/19 8:10:16 AM
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That synchronized, monotone recital always reminded me of church
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Weezy_Tha_Don
07/19/19 8:10:26 AM
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what religion was that?
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SocialistGamer
07/19/19 8:11:06 AM
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I never did at school.
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Doom_Art
07/19/19 8:12:14 AM
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In Canada we had to stand for the national anthem at the start of each school day

Same idea as the pledge, but without the creepy cultish monotone delivery I guess.
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Youngster_Joey_
07/19/19 8:14:25 AM
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How pointless of a life does one have to live where saying the pledge of allegiance in school 12+ years ago causes one to get upset?

Like, I lived in a really "patriotic" area and nobody gave a shit if you didn't say it. All you had to do was stand up with everyone else and nobody paid attention.
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Funkydog
07/19/19 8:17:37 AM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Like, I lived in a really "patriotic" area and nobody gave a shit if you didn't say it. All you had to do was stand up with everyone else and nobody paid attention.

Why should you even need do that? And why are their always constant reports of children getting in trouble for not "falling in line"?

It's really nothing other than indoctrination people have accepted and would call out with gusto in regards to other countries.
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eston
07/19/19 8:18:58 AM
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Youngster_Joey_
07/19/19 8:20:15 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Why should you even need do that? And why are their always constant reports of children getting in trouble for not "falling in line"?

It's really nothing other than indoctrination people have accepted and would call out with gusto in regards to other countries.


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Doom_Art
07/19/19 8:20:53 AM
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Good rebuttal, Joey.
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Funkydog
07/19/19 8:22:03 AM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Funkydog posted...
Why should you even need do that? And why are their always constant reports of children getting in trouble for not "falling in line"?

It's really nothing other than indoctrination people have accepted and would call out with gusto in regards to other countries.


FpT8yeO

As an outsider to it all, I just don't see how you can see it any other way, no matter how hard you meme.

You know sure as shit you'd call out Russia or China hard if they did this. Or would mock Britain/France as backwards morons you were glad to break away from, if we did something similar.
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Youngster_Joey_
07/19/19 8:22:11 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Good rebuttal, Joey.


Thanks. Sometimes the best rebuttal to crybaby bullshit is to just roll your eyes and move on.
You'd do well to pay attention to that.
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Lonestar2000
07/19/19 8:22:27 AM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Funkydog posted...
Why should you even need do that? And why are their always constant reports of children getting in trouble for not "falling in line"?

It's really nothing other than indoctrination people have accepted and would call out with gusto in regards to other countries.


FpT8yeO

So you have no argument and post a stupid gif instead?

Fantastic.
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Youngster_Joey_
07/19/19 8:23:12 AM
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Funkydog posted...
You know sure as shit you'd call out Russia or China hard if they did this. Or would mock Britain/France as backwards morons you were glad to break away from, if we did something similar.


Not really. I really don't care what Russia or China do in their country and I don't really even pay attention. I have better things to do than search out shit to be outraged over that doesn't hurt me in the slightest.
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Youngster_Joey_
07/19/19 8:24:23 AM
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Lonestar2000 posted...
So you have no argument and post a stupid gif instead?

Fantastic.


There's no argument to be made. Yeah, it's such horrible indoctrination that everyone who didn't want to be indoctrinated by it are bitching and moaning 12+ years later about it.

Is it dumb? Sure. Is it worth getting upset over. Not really.
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Funkydog
07/19/19 8:24:37 AM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Funkydog posted...
You know sure as shit you'd call out Russia or China hard if they did this. Or would mock Britain/France as backwards morons you were glad to break away from, if we did something similar.


Not really. I really don't care what Russia or China do in their country and I don't really even pay attention. I have better things to do than search out shit to be outraged over that doesn't hurt me in the slightest.

But if you don't care about this, why are you posting in a topic about it?

Not living by your own standards here, Joey! Your mother would be ashamed of you.
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Youngster_Joey_
07/19/19 8:27:11 AM
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Funkydog posted...
But if you don't care about this, why are you posting in a topic about it?

Not living by your own standards here, Joey! Your mother would be ashamed of you.


Didn't realize this topic about the pledge of alliegance for the United States was about China and Russia...

Do you ever think before you post, Funky?
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RickyTheBAWSE
07/19/19 8:27:30 AM
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I believe the Pledge of Allegiance should be something to do when you turn 18. oh well.
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Funkydog
07/19/19 8:30:41 AM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Funkydog posted...
But if you don't care about this, why are you posting in a topic about it?

Not living by your own standards here, Joey! Your mother would be ashamed of you.


Didn't realize this topic about the pledge of alliegance for the United States was about China and Russia...

Do you ever think before you post, Funky?

Of course not, where is the fun in that.

You are still the one saying people shouldn't complain about indoctrination, yet have come into a topic about it to complain? Are you sure you just don't want to complain about something? There is no shame in that. We all love a good moan.
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Lonestar2000
07/19/19 8:31:25 AM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...
So you have no argument and post a stupid gif instead?

Fantastic.


There's no argument to be made. Yeah, it's such horrible indoctrination that everyone who didn't want to be indoctrinated by it are bitching and moaning 12+ years later about it.

Is it dumb? Sure. Is it worth getting upset over. Not really.

Indoctrination is never okay, especially when it is used on children.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/19/19 8:32:02 AM
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NinjaBreakfast
07/19/19 8:32:42 AM
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A lot of American right wingers basically want to live in the sort of dictatorships they criticise other countries as being
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Blue_Dream87
07/19/19 8:34:07 AM
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At some point I just stopped standing up. Nobody said shit
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Youngster_Joey_
07/19/19 8:40:53 AM
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Funkydog posted...
You are still the one saying people shouldn't complain about indoctrination, yet have come into a topic about it to complain? Are you sure you just don't want to complain about something? There is no shame in that. We all love a good moan.


I'm not really complaining, though. I'm more just wondering why this is worth getting upset over after the fact.

Like, the entire purpose of school is to indoctrinate children into being drones but you're upset over the one part most kids don't pay attention to and forget about by the time snacktime rolls around?

I doubt most people even remember the pledge of allegiance tbqh. I know I don't and you guys seem to think I'm the most indoctrinated person around.
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Funkydog
07/19/19 8:46:35 AM
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Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Funkydog posted...
You are still the one saying people shouldn't complain about indoctrination, yet have come into a topic about it to complain? Are you sure you just don't want to complain about something? There is no shame in that. We all love a good moan.


I'm not really complaining, though. I'm more just wondering why this is worth getting upset over after the fact.

Like, the entire purpose of school is to indoctrinate children into being drones but you're upset over the one part most kids don't pay attention to and forget about by the time snacktime rolls around?

I doubt most people even remember the pledge of allegiance tbqh. I know I don't and you guys seem to think I'm the most indoctrinated person around.

And yet any criticism of America is met with cries of "Send her home"

FFS, how do you think thoughts like these start? It's bred into them to serve and obey, to love without question, when they should be doing the exact opposite. Calling out ones country is the best way to serve it, not giving your loyalty and obedience to it.

The mindset of a cult is done in the same way, where they simply can't fathom any other kind of thoughts and find those that do "strange and dangerous" and it is remarkably effective. Which is why they do it.
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Cheater87
07/19/19 8:47:48 AM
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It was an anti Communist pro Christian idea in the 50s to add God to it.
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Lord_Shadow
07/19/19 8:50:14 AM
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blablablax17
07/19/19 8:51:00 AM
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I remember it being a BIG DEAL when a little Native American girl in my 2nd grade class refused to say it.
None of us kids understood what was going on at the time.
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Shablagoo
07/19/19 8:53:06 AM
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Notice they also always had globes in our classrooms.
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Error1355
07/19/19 8:58:57 AM
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I didn't really do the pledge from like 10th grade on.

I'm not unpatriotic or hate America, I was just so done doing that dumb shit every morning. No teachers in my school gave anyone any shit over not doing it either. =P
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mooreandrew58
07/19/19 9:07:17 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Youngster_Joey_ posted...
Funkydog posted...
You know sure as shit you'd call out Russia or China hard if they did this. Or would mock Britain/France as backwards morons you were glad to break away from, if we did something similar.


Not really. I really don't care what Russia or China do in their country and I don't really even pay attention. I have better things to do than search out shit to be outraged over that doesn't hurt me in the slightest.

But if you don't care about this, why are you posting in a topic about it?

Not living by your own standards here, Joey! Your mother would be ashamed of you.


I dont really care if schools make kids say it or not but ive always hated the "if you dont care why did you post in this topic" logic sometimes a person is just bored and it takes like 5 seconds to type something and hit post. I do it all the time as 99% of the time its because I'm bored.
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OctaviaMeIody69
07/19/19 9:10:04 AM
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I liked it. The Pledge added to the morning routine and just made me proud that we live in the best country.
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Master_Bass
07/19/19 9:12:37 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
In Canada we had to stand for the national anthem at the start of each school day

Same idea as the pledge, but without the creepy cultish monotone delivery I guess.

In America we listened/sang to the national anthem each day and then did the pledge. It was that way in elementary school, at least. In high school we just listened to the anthem.
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Feline_Heart
07/19/19 9:13:41 AM
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Error1355 posted...
I didn't really do the pledge from like 10th grade on.

I'm not unpatriotic or hate America, I was just so done doing that dumb shit every morning. No teachers in my school gave anyone any shit over not doing it either. =P

Thats how it was at my school too
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Shablagoo
07/19/19 9:14:13 AM
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OctaviaMeIody69 posted...
I liked it. The Pledge added to the morning routine and just made me proud that we live in the best country.

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Feline_Heart
07/19/19 9:14:41 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
OctaviaMeIody69 posted...
I liked it. The Pledge added to the morning routine and just made me proud that we live in the best country.

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Caution999
07/19/19 9:15:11 AM
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yes, such a horrible thing to respect your country and all the fallen so you could live a life in a first world country.
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SquantoZ
07/19/19 9:16:16 AM
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Wait what?! Kids no longer have to do this?
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thronedfire2
07/19/19 9:25:54 AM
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Caution999 posted...
yes, such a horrible thing to respect your country and all the fallen so you could live a life in a first world country.


it's not a sign of respect if you're forced to do something, lol
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DezDroppedFreak
07/19/19 9:28:05 AM
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Caution999 posted...
yes, such a horrible thing to respect your country and all the fallen so you could live a life in a first world country.

Nothing screams respect like forced recitation and indoctrination
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Lonestar2000
07/19/19 9:33:21 AM
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Why are people responding to the dude that spews racist garbage?
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LightningAce11
07/19/19 9:36:59 AM
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American children are indoctrinated from a young age. They're not much different than their enemies.
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Hanky_Bannister
07/19/19 9:37:50 AM
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its stupid but it didnt brainwash me once i grew up

it should not be recited in schools, however. its very un american.
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Caution999
07/19/19 9:39:19 AM
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We're forced to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and boomers were forced to be drafted into Nam.

I'll take reciting the Pledge 7/7 times a week. Count your blessings.
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CountDog
07/19/19 9:40:33 AM
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I'm on my second time through reading the Armed Forces Officers book and it delves a page or two on this
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RescueBC
07/19/19 9:41:23 AM
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Yeah it was kinda weird but its whatever. I doubt it had any sort of negative effect on anyone.
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Hanky_Bannister
07/19/19 9:43:55 AM
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Caution999 posted...
We're forced to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and boomers were forced to be drafted into Nam.

I'll take reciting the Pledge 7/7 times a week. Count your blessings.

they did both, genius. what is the point of this comment?
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OctaviaMeIody69
07/19/19 9:44:30 AM
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In my schools, no one was forced to recite it. There was no reason not to though, it was easy.
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