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StealThisSheen
07/10/19 12:58:59 AM
#201:


This very much looks more like he's being used to get Shane over than a holding pattern of trying to use Shane to get him over
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:01:21 AM
#202:


StealThisSheen posted...
This very much looks more like he's being used to get Shane over than a holding pattern of trying to use Shane to get him over


Its so weird too because this all started with Elias in that role. Fine! Thats a good use of him!

But then Elias got demoted in the Shane Lackey Hierarchy for Drew for some reason
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 1:02:03 AM
#203:


I think the bigger issue is how many matches he's won in that time period.

He's lost 3.

It's hard to argue "why isn't he taking pins" when he's only been on the losing side 3 times, all with The Miz, aka a chump that loses a lot.
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:02:39 AM
#204:


Actually in hindsight I found the reason

The damn Wild Card rule

If they just kept it self-contained to SD without people crossing brands, Drew would never be in this position today
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 1:06:10 AM
#205:


Like Miz has lost 20 matches since SS 2018.

Maybe Miz really is that bad!
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:06:35 AM
#206:


I wonder if part of the reason they wont commit to Drew is the accent.

Becky got buried for years because Kevin Dunn hated her accent

But they let Nikki Cross talk a lot so who knows
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:08:14 AM
#207:


TheRock1525 posted...
Like Miz has lost 20 matches since SS 2018.

Maybe Miz really is that bad!


The hilarious thing is that this comes off of him going even against face Bryan when he had no reason to get ANYTHING in that feud
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 1:09:45 AM
#208:


I think they can't commit to DREW MAC because he's not getting the crowd reaction they want (fault Corbin all you want but he gets booed to hell every time he shows up) and they keep thinking they can just feed him heat off of someone else. Because every time he's kinda left on his own he comes out to very little reaction, so they keep teaming him up with guys like Corbin and McMahon thinking he can leech heat off of them instead of, I dunno, having him develop a proper villainous persona that fans can hate?

That's why it absolutely would not shock me for him to Claymore McMahon after the match after Shane eats a Tombstone. Probably because Shane will be easier for Taker to lift. I mean you saw how bad that chokeslam looked, asking Taker to pick up DREW MAC and not spike him like Goldberg might be too much.
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:09:50 AM
#209:


Like they give Miz too much credibility when they shouldnt and no credibility when they should

Its almost like they dont know what theyre doing
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:10:53 AM
#210:


Hopefully both Drew and Shane will be co-operating and not concussed into oblivion at least
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 1:11:04 AM
#211:


Jakyl25 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Like Miz has lost 20 matches since SS 2018.

Maybe Miz really is that bad!


The hilarious thing is that this comes off of him going even against face Bryan when he had no reason to get ANYTHING in that feud


I think because they were thinking it was a feud they could extend until WM only for Bryan to successfully lobby for his heel turn. Therefore they didn't bury Miz right away.
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:13:14 AM
#212:


TheRock1525 posted...
I think they can't commit to DREW MAC because he's not getting the crowd reaction they want (fault Corbin all you want but he gets booed to hell every time he shows up) and they keep thinking they can just feed him heat off of someone else. Because every time he's kinda left on his own he comes out to very little reaction, so they keep teaming him up with guys like Corbin and McMahon thinking he can leech heat of them instead of, I dunno, having him develop a proper villainous persona that fans can hate?


It hasnt stopped them with Lashley post-Corbin Gang!

Actually I seem to recall Lashley was Shanes Raw lackey one week but then they immediately replaced him with Drew the next show
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 1:13:38 AM
#213:


Of course we're all ignoring the scenario where Shane McMahon pins Taker.

Which I'm all for at this point to be honest.
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:17:48 AM
#214:


Im gonna rank the potential outcomes in that tag match in order of likelihood, most to least

Taker beats Drew
Roman beats Drew
Shane beats Roman
Draw
Drew beats Roman
Brock cashes in on this match and wins
Taker beats Shane
Shane beats Taker
Roman beats Shane
Drew beats Taker
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 1:21:32 AM
#215:


Taker beats Drew
Taker beats Shane
Roman beats Drew
Roman beats Shane
Shane beats Taker
Shane beats Roman
Drew beats Roman
Drew beats Taker

Like the fact that Shane got the pin on RAW, going with reverse momentum theory, makes me think there's a pretty good chance he can take the pin here. And especially since I think this alliance is over because Shane is clearly getting spun off into another feud with Owens.
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:27:28 AM
#216:


TheRock1525 posted...
Taker beats Drew
Taker beats Shane
Roman beats Drew
Roman beats Shane
Shane beats Taker
Shane beats Roman
Drew beats Roman
Drew beats Taker

Like the fact that Shane got the pin on RAW, going with reverse momentum theory, makes me think there's a pretty good chance he can take the pin here. And especially since I think this alliance is over because Shane is clearly getting spun off into another feud with Owens.


Remember when Shane got spun off into a feud with Roman and his feud with Miz was over?
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 1:31:22 AM
#217:


I mean, stepping up to face Roman requires going over The Miz, so stepping down to face Owens involves jobbing to Roman. It's just a matter of if he eats a Tombstone or not. I'm saying there's a good chance he does.
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:35:00 AM
#218:


Im saying hes still feuding with both Miz and Roman

Theres no reason he cant add Owens
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 1:45:39 AM
#219:


Is he feuding with Miz? I feel like Miz is thinking he's feuding with Shane but Shane couldn't care less.

Like those brothers that keep tweeting at Trump. Like yeah I guess it's a rivalry in the sense that the Generals are rivals to the Globetrotters.
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 1:58:02 AM
#220:


So its like Jericho and Goldberg in WCW
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 2:09:11 AM
#221:


Also I want to know the reason why Shane couldnt just book another handicap match with him and Drew vs Roman

The entire janitor rigamarole from THEIR perspective was to just not have him be involved at all. It wasnt supposed to be extra humiliation or anything.

Why even bother? Who was making them do this when they had no issue making a straight handicap match before?
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 2:11:17 AM
#222:


Also who booked Taker/Roman vs Drew/Shane when it is clearly a match Shane doesnt really want?
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 2:12:10 AM
#223:


I assume the same reason why he didn't book a 3 on 1 or 4 on 1. Basically "oh we gave Roman a partner so it's fair now and he still lost lolololololol."
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 2:12:40 AM
#224:


Jakyl25 posted...
Also who booked Taker/Roman vs Drew/Shane when it is clearly a match Shane doesnt really want?


We're still the Authority. I assume it was steiner.
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 2:22:01 AM
#225:


TheRock1525 posted...
I assume the same reason why he didn't book a 3 on 1 or 4 on 1. Basically "oh we gave Roman a partner so it's fair now and he still lost lolololololol."


And then it actually WAS way more fair and he still lost
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 2:26:04 AM
#226:


Jakyl25 posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
I assume the same reason why he didn't book a 3 on 1 or 4 on 1. Basically "oh we gave Roman a partner so it's fair now and he still lost lolololololol."


And then it actually WAS way more fair and he still lost


So it worked out even better for them! Those dastardly heels.
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Steiner
07/10/19 3:47:53 AM
#227:


Dude cedric celebrated getting pinned in two minutes how are people defending this shit
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Lopen
07/10/19 4:20:50 AM
#228:


TheRock1525
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 6:22:50 AM
#229:


Steiner posted...
Dude cedric celebrated getting pinned in two minutes how are people defending this shit


He did? I just remember him doing the typical lame "I almost had you" that wrestlers do when they lose.
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 6:25:16 AM
#230:


Also pretty sure SHINE tried to justify it too and the first words I said were "they needed to do x to justify it otherwise it makes almost zero sense."

Which is basically not a defense at all.
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Steiner
07/10/19 6:48:50 AM
#231:


TheRock1525 posted...
Steiner posted...
Dude cedric celebrated getting pinned in two minutes how are people defending this shit


He did? I just remember him doing the typical lame "I almost had you" that wrestlers do when they lose.


he acted like drew mac and shane were the owned ones after he unmasked. "ha, you fools, you thought you pinned a janitor but actually, it was me, cedric!"
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 6:53:49 AM
#232:


I mean I thought it was one of those "I had you scared there for a minute didn't I?" type of celebrations.
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NBIceman
07/10/19 7:21:00 AM
#233:


I wake up to 66 new posts in this topic and I assume something actually important happened, but no, it's just an argument over freaking Shane McMahon. Figures.
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PrivateBiscuit1
07/10/19 7:58:15 AM
#234:


"Aaaah I almost got you, evil heel."

"But you didn't get us. We win. And you lost."

"But I got close!"
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 8:48:40 AM
#235:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
"Aaaah I almost got you, evil heel."

"But you didn't get us. We win. And you lost."

"But I got close!"


Known as pulling a Paul Walker.

"Dude I almost had you!"
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 10:53:08 AM
#236:


Something else that bothered me

Why did Drake Maverick go to Raw instead of his honeymoon?
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 10:59:04 AM
#237:


Also why is a Last Man Standing match the solution to a scenario where neither guy could get up for 20 minutes
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Jakyl25
07/10/19 11:24:21 AM
#238:


Apparently theres another 3 months for 99 cents total deal on the WWE Network again
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PrivateBiscuit1
07/10/19 1:09:47 PM
#239:


Jakyl25 posted...
Apparently theres another 3 months for 99 cents total deal on the WWE Network again

Still too expensive.
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HashtagSEP
07/10/19 1:10:58 PM
#240:


I mean if you're only watching PPVs yeah

I'm a sucker and still get it for the old stuff
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ZeroSignal620
07/10/19 3:16:09 PM
#241:


So... this card...

Rollins/Lynch vs Corbin/Evans for the Universal and Raw Women's titles
Kofi vs Joe for WWE title
Shane/Drew vs Reigns/Taker
Ricochet vs Styles for US title
Bryan/Rowan vs Woods/Big E vs Heavy Machinery for SD Tag Titles
Gulak vs Nese for Cruiserweight title
Bayley vs Nikki/Alexa for SD Women's title
Braun vs Lashley in Last Man Standing match
Black vs Cesaro
Revival vs Usos for Raw Tag Titles

And supposedly, the guarantee that Brock will cash in, but on who?
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TheRock1525
07/10/19 3:22:15 PM
#242:


Jakyl25 posted...
Something else that bothered me

Why did Drake Maverick go to Raw instead of his honeymoon?


He did go on his Honeymoon, though. At Universal Studios.
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Eddv
07/10/19 3:33:02 PM
#243:


ZeroSignal620 posted...
So... this card...

Rollins/Lynch vs Corbin/Evans for the Universal and Raw Women's titles
Kofi vs Joe for WWE title
Shane/Drew vs Reigns/Taker
Ricochet vs Styles for US title
Bryan/Rowan vs Woods/Big E vs Heavy Machinery for SD Tag Titles
Gulak vs Nese for Cruiserweight title
Bayley vs Nikki/Alexa for SD Women's title
Braun vs Lashley in Last Man Standing match
Black vs Cesaro
Revival vs Usos for Raw Tag Titles

And supposedly, the guarantee that Brock will cash in, but on who?


Kofi vs Joe is hype.

The rest of this card is garbage
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HashtagSEP
07/10/19 3:42:59 PM
#244:


Revival/Usos and Ricochet/AJ doesn't seem like garbage?

EDIT: Gulak/Nese and Black/Cesaro sound pretty good, too, and SD Tag is fairly appealing. I'd say there's atleast as much good as there is dumb, if not more.
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Eddv
07/10/19 3:44:53 PM
#245:


With this build I dont care about Revival/Usos at all.

And LOL ZZZZ WWE Ricochet is boring

Dont give a shit about the cruisers

Literally Heavy Machinery

Don't expect Black/Cesaro to be much more than a squash for Black.
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HashtagSEP
07/10/19 3:47:38 PM
#246:


Eddv posted...
Dont give a shit about the cruisers


That sounds like a you problem and not a "this is garbage" problem
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Eddv
07/10/19 3:57:08 PM
#247:


Hey if you're willing to spend like a 14th hour a week watching WWE knock yourself out.
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NBIceman
07/10/19 3:59:45 PM
#248:


I feel like Ed has been more aggressive lately and I like it.
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HashtagSEP
07/10/19 4:00:12 PM
#249:


Eddv posted...
Hey if you're willing to spend like a 14th hour a week watching WWE knock yourself out.


Or I could just skip most of the crap and watch like 1 or 2 hours!
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RPGlord95
07/10/19 4:09:30 PM
#250:


Why stop at 14. I watch at least 96 hours of WWE content a week and the product is just so good and always getting better and man can we get more Shane? He is so good
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