Board 8 > Game of Thrones Season 8: Topic 3 (Spoilers)

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The real question is Who plans on picking up Missandei's body?
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Mountain about to get a wife
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The secrets out: Missandei is the best girl BY FAR, and gives the best head.
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Replaying the scene in my head, Jon was a total asshole to Ghost, and Im mad at him now.
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Brienne was always emotionally young so her reactions to everything we're pretty believable
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Arya tries to kill Cersei but Mountain catches her. Hound saves her. That's how Cleganebowl happens.
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Fast travel is a given at this point. I just roll with it.
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Fast travel has always been fine.

Early on travel time is needed to denote size and scope. At this point the audience knows size and scope, it is fine to bypass for more interesting moments.
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The only time it was unforgivable was when Dany somehow got to the ice lake in time (and received the message in time)
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htaeD posted...

The only time it was unforgivable was when Dany somehow got to the ice lake in time (and received the message in time)

Definitely not perfect. But I think at least in the current season its been justifiable.

Also it seems Jaime is on his path to destiny and Cleganebowl is on its way some point as well.

What the fuck Arya is doing now who knows.
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red13n posted...

Fast travel has always been fine.

Early on travel time is needed to denote size and scope. At this point the audience knows size and scope, it is fine to bypass for more interesting moments.

I have no problem with fast travel as a concept, but when they do it in GoT, they do it back to back to back, its impossible to know how much time is passing.
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13 episodes instead of 20 (which they were offered) for the last two seasons was a mistake. The big moments almost all play (except fort he NK and Rhaegal's deaths) but everything just feels so rushed.
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That episode had some issues like most do, but it beats the shit out of that awful episode last week.

You don't send a scout? Someone up ahead to make sure the path is clear? Stupid mother of dragon.
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I guess all the good scouts got eaten by wights.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D53m7CEV4AA_Gb9.jpg

Dany apparently made a stop at Winterfell's Starbucks after the battle.

Oh, disappointed with the use of Bronn right now. When he showed up I was excited and scared and then he's just like "yeah, you live and I want highgarden". Wompwomp
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I don't understand why the show title was "The Last of the Starks."

It's not like any of them died. It's also not like any of them were really that critical to the story this week.

Like, arguably Jon is "no longer a Stark"?

I guess technically Sansa is last of the Starks really. Jon isn't a Stark. Bran is always claiming he's not Bran anymore and so not a Stark. Arya is no one. Which just leave Sansa.

But yeah I'm not sure why they went with that title.

tcaz2 posted...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D53m7CEV4AA_Gb9.jpg

Dany apparently made a stop at Winterfell's Starbucks after the battle.

Damn, how did that make it through filming/editing?
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Honestly I think that may have been the worst episode in the series.
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Menji posted...

Honestly I think that may have been the worst episode in the series.

This season as a whole is shaping up to be the worst so far.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

red13n posted...

Fast travel has always been fine.

Early on travel time is needed to denote size and scope. At this point the audience knows size and scope, it is fine to bypass for more interesting moments.

I have no problem with fast travel as a concept, but when they do it in GoT, they do it back to back to back, its impossible to know how much time is passing.

Enough time for Cersei's team to make tons of dragon butchering crossbows. Months between Jaime going up to Winterfell (and Bronn following a few days behind) and everyone on their way back?

The Gendry one was super dumb though.
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What are they going to fill the gaps with? Long travel trips with pointless conversation? New characters and random story lines that don't matter?

There are no more questions to answer or plots to wrap up.

Its just final war, so I'm ok with the pacing, I wouldn't want them bloating this season with crap.
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Imagine if Daenerys had listened to Sansa and let her soldiers rest. King's Landing would be 90% covered in ballistas.
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the pacing has been bad, the fast travel just makes it more obvious

so much stuff happens off screen it's really irritating, yes they were about to say things we already know but I want the fucking reactions
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another thing that bothered me was how the dragon was shot in a 45 degree angle when the ships were in one direction >_>
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Just finished the episode
It's currently the lowest ranked episode of GoT on IMDB...ever
Even lower than the episode with the Sansa rape

Why? I thought it was better than last week shitshow
There were some cringey parts, bad writing, but overall it was fine.
The scene where the Dragon died and the last one were good
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GranzonEx posted...

another thing that bothered me was how the dragon was shot in a 45 degree angle when the ships were in one direction >_>

between this and the starbucks thing... lol @ people saying "BUT THE ATTENTION TO DETAIL IS AMAZING"
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Nanahara715 posted...

I don't understand why the show title was "The Last of the Starks."

It's not like any of them died. It's also not like any of them were really that critical to the story this week.

Like, arguably Jon is "no longer a Stark"?

They picked it from the dialogue between Jon/Bran/Sansa/Arya when they were talking right before Jon told Sansa/Arya that he's a secret Targ. Sansa or Arya notes that they're the last of the Starks when they met up in the godswood to discuss Daenerys.

Not that different from "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" it's not like Brienne being a knight is actually important to the story. If anything the Stark scene is waaaaaaaay more important than that ever could be given we're already seeing the consequences from Jon telling them.
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As someone who was very down on last week's episode, this one was the best we've had in quite a while. Really went back to what GoT is good at. Fast travel is as obnoxious as ever but we've only got two episodes left so properly conveying the scope of the world flat out isn't an option at this point.

People complaining about Brienne are dumb and reductionist.
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Gotta say though, the whole "not being able to keep a secret and letting it spread" is something more fitting for a soap opera and not Game of Thrones, but ok
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Sansa telling Tyrion makes sense given both Sansa's distrust of Daenerys and previous relationship with Tyrion. Tyrion telling Varys... less so.
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Nanis23 posted...

Gotta say though, the whole "not being able to keep a secret and letting it spread" is something more fitting for a soap opera and not Game of Thrones, but ok

The show is based almost entirely on character interactions and the biggest plot points are centered around baby mama drama so it's definitely on brand.
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I am becoming increasingly convinced that Sansa is the only "smart" character left and should rule the Iron Throne in the end when Jon runs off with Tormund to start a fraternity in the far north.
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The only capable "schemers" left alive are Sansa, Cersei, Varys and Tyrion. The latter two have been chained down and not really doing anything for multiple seasons (though maybe Varys is finally about to start making moves,) and Cersei has pretty much "won" her theater so yeah, Sansa is really the only one we have left in play. Could have a lot to do with how much my opinion of her has gone up lately!
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Sansa is definitely the smartest candidate for the throne but her inherent distrust of Daenerys and refusal to accept her as queen was a dumb play. Understandable, but dumb to not even pretend to play along. If Sansa endorses Dany, Dany will be more likely to listen to her advice. Then if Dany wins you can fill up her council with Stark sympathisers (in addition to Jon and Tyrion) and have almost complete authority over the North.

The fact that the North is allied with the Vale and the Riverlands (I think?) complicates things too. The show has basically forgotten about them and it's unclear if Sansa planned on just abandoning them or assimilating them into the North...but either way if Dany wins you can also put your allies there on the council.
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I keep going back to think about that scene where everyone who survived the battle is drinking and having fun, and Dany is just sort of surveying the room. I think it has to be one of the most melancholy scenes in the entire show. There is just something so subtly sad about it. I know Dany is trending mad queen, which I think will be great and a lot of fun, but there is something really sad about the character that this scene really highlights for me.

All Dany ever talked about in the earlier seasons was going home and having a home and returning where she came from. And I feel like this scene is her realizing there is no home for her. She sees Jon with the wildlings and the northmen, and Tyrion and Jaime talking with Brienne and everyone is smiling and laughing, and she's just there by herself.

She is truly alone. Drogo is dead. Barristan is dead. Her blood riders are dead. Jorah is dead. Missandei is now dead. Two of her three dragons are now dead. Tyrion and Varys spent the episode conspiring against her. And her dynamic with Jon is essentially completely destroyed in a way that doesn't seem fixable.

I know part of this is just in retrospect with the episode as a whole, but that is just such a lonely scene to me.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

She is truly alone. Drogo is dead. Barristan is dead. Her blood riders are dead. Jorah is dead. Missandei is now dead. Two of her three dragons are now dead. Tyrion and Varys spent the episode conspiring against her. And her dynamic with Jon is essentially completely destroyed in a way that doesn't seem fixable.

all her fault, the sweet sweet self sabotage
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I wasn't a fan of the concept of Dany going full mad queen last season but I do like it now that she has lost literally everything.
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Daenerys has been one of my least favorite main characters throughout the series. Her seeming to trend towards madness and showing that she just isn't really that good a person is pretty satisfying and is probably the only way they redeem that character for me

Turning Dany into a worse Azula is probably the best way they could handle her here
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Dunno why people ever hate Dany. Shes been a great character and had a great arc and I would love to see her go full mad queen. I'll be pretty annoyed tho if the show ends with Jon Snow alone on the Iron Throne.

Because she does some pretty shitty things where if anyone else did them, they would be vilified for it but she gets away with it and doesn't even acknowledge they are shitty things to do. Her motivation of being the rightful heir also gets on my tits because it's set in a culture where killing someone and taking their stuff is totally fair game, as it was in the medieval times. So her claim means nothing to me, especially because her family lost the throne through being batshit crazy. It would be one thing if her family was usurped whilst doing a great job of ruling but they weren't and she doesn't even acknowledge that.

I mean yeah she may have an interesting character/story arc but I feel she has been portrayed, or at least accepted by fans, to be far better than she actual is. Her going mad queen would redeem her for me, her not going down that route would be a downer for me

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I love that shes always done horrible things but those where to people who deserved it, rapists and slavers, and she surrounded herself by the raped and the enslaved so they were happy with it. As soon as she starts that back here it started the cracks thatll lead to Jon turning on her (Tarlys).

What? Like everyones motivation is being the rightful heir. Its not a complaint Ive heard about anyone else and folks universally love Stannis where thats like his whole personality. Nobody acknowledges the bad stuff their parents did unless it was done directly to them in this show.

Portrayed as better than she is? How? All its done is literally showed what shes doing while shes surrounded by people whose lives she literally saved and one dude thats totally in love with her.

And even the Tarly thing can be argued as completely justified. By Stark morality, "executing political traitors who refuse to serve or take the black" is Honorable and Just. The only difference is her horrific method of execution.

She's always done a good job of riding the gray morality line in still heroic ways and the swerve to her about to act on something indefensible like burning King's Landing actually makes sense now.
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Aegon conquered the seven kingdoms because he was swift and overwhelming. She should've just burned the red keep the moment she arrived. Would've been less over all deaths I wager, and all the kingdoms still bent the knee even after Aegon melted Harrenhal. With the most peaceful and prosperous time period directly after.
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I'm pretty convinced at this point that Dany will die and Jon will destroy the Iron Throne and tell everyone to do as they fucking well please (maybe limited by region, but no more Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, only seven lords of seven kingdoms).

Euron better die in the next episode though. It's one thing to completely butcher book Euron, but it's another one to make him super lame AND hyper competent.
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Euron rules honestly. Is he somehow cooler in the books?
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