Poll of the Day > I bought the NES and SNES Classics.

(+) Yeah! (+)

I have a raspberry pi that I was planning on turning into a retro pie and I might do it at some point. But I wanted to buy both Classics and play the games legitimately.

I was going to buy them on my next paycheck but Nintendo announced they weren't going to make any more of them and today a customer told me how many stores no longer have them in stock. So I kinda panicked and decided to just buy them right away. I don't want to risk it.

Anyways, I'm happy with my purchases and can't wait to play Super Mario RPG, Star Fox 2, Castlevania 1, etc. But I won't unbox them until I move to my new bedroom.
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theyre a lot of fun also easy to add more games to later on if you ever decide to

Good for you both are worthy additions no matter what you hear.
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I was 12 when I bought my first SNES.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

I was 12 when I bought my first SNES.

When I was 14 I was collecting everything I could to get a PS1. Including stealing music CDs from my older sister to sell at the shop. Yes like a record shop but with cds. The man at the music shop knew my Sister. So. I got it finally!
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pipebomb_phil posted...

I wanted to buy both Classics and play the games legitimately.

The issue with that is that if you truly want to stay legitimate, then you can't add more games to the Classic. Adding games to them is the only thing that makes them worthwhile. Otherwise they are a ripoff.

Bought them for my 5 year old but I don't think he's ready for his own console, yet. Haven't opened them.
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Grendel Prime posted...

Bought them for my 5 year old but I don't think he's ready for his own console, yet. Haven't opened them.

Yeah give it a couple more years. Ideally 5 more years at least but by then they wont give a damn
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rogerskg1979 posted...

pipebomb_phil posted...

I wanted to buy both Classics and play the games legitimately.

The issue with that is that if you truly want to stay legitimate, then you can't add more games to the Classic. Adding games to them is the only thing that makes them worthwhile. Otherwise they are a ripoff.

But it is the games as you remember them!
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rogerskg1979 posted...

Otherwise they are a ripoff.

Not really. $80 for 21 games of that quality is a pretty solid deal. Pretty much all of those games are easily worth $4. I didn't go for it because I already had most of the ones I cared about via VC or other releases and I didn't care to bother hunting one down (although they ended up being more common than I expected), but it's certainly not a ripoff.

You could maybe argue that for the NES, but the more salient point there is that most NES games aren't worth playing at all, let alone buying. That still doesn't really make it a ripoff, but I'd agree it isn't worth the money.

I have both and also a PS classic and the weird thing is at one time I actually owned all of those consoles when they were popular but I sold em all. Looking back I wish I'd kept them all. I do have a Sega Dreamcast and a 3DO, PS2, and PS3.

Little tip. As far as I know not every mini usb cable will power the NES and SNES Classics. Only the cable that came with them will work. Do not lose those cables. I tried once and didnt work for me.
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OneTimeBen posted...

Little tip. As far as I know not every mini usb cable will power the NES and SNES Classics. Only the cable that came with them will work. Do not lose those cables. I tried once and didnt work for me.

The same thing kind of happened with the switch. Not all HDMI cables worked with it. Some did, and some didnt. And for the power, certain ones can power a decent speed. Others make it feel like its losing power while charging. You make have to find the right cord/block combo. I would also recommend not losing them. But you may be able to go to Nintendo.com to see the type of cord thats needed and get it from Amazon of something...
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rogerskg1979 posted...

pipebomb_phil posted...

I wanted to buy both Classics and play the games legitimately.

The issue with that is that if you truly want to stay legitimate, then you can't add more games to the Classic. Adding games to them is the only thing that makes them worthwhile. Otherwise they are a ripoff.

By legitimate I meant legally.

The classics are a rip off to you but not to me. The games offered are such a great deal. There are some games I never played and some that I only played a little as a child. And like I said in my first post, I have a raspberry pi if I wanted most of the NES and SNES library.
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But your PC and raspberries pies wont be there when you upgrade in a few years
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Not always master race huh?
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OneTimeBen posted...

But your PC and raspberries pies wont be there when you upgrade in a few years

Uhh, what? The exact configuration of hardware that currently exists won't exist after upgrading, no, but upgrading doesn't mean giving up the data or functionality of the current system. Even if the storage is among the upgrades performed, you can transfer data pretty easily.

pipebomb_phil posted...

rogerskg1979 posted...

pipebomb_phil posted...

I wanted to buy both Classics and play the games legitimately.

The issue with that is that if you truly want to stay legitimate, then you can't add more games to the Classic. Adding games to them is the only thing that makes them worthwhile. Otherwise they are a ripoff.

By legitimate I meant legally.

The classics are a rip off to you but not to me. The games offered are such a great deal. There are some games I never played and some that I only played a little as a child. And like I said in my first post, I have a raspberry pi if I wanted most of the NES and SNES library.

Yeah, I know what you meant. Downloading ROMs is not legal period. Building a raspberry pi emulation machine is therefore not legal, and adding more ROMs to the NES/SNES Classic is therefore not legal either.

Most people don't care though. I don't care either, and I emulate old school games too. However, trying to stay legitimate/legal would mean you could not download ROMs or use a raspberry pi for emulation period.

The only way to truly be legitimate is to play the cartridge on actual hardware.

Having said that, I am in no way against emulation. Official or not.
SNES classic is no different than a Raspberry Pi with retroarch.
And if I'm being completely honest. Aside from supporting Nintendo, I think the RPi with retroarch is the superior option here.
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DrCidd posted...

The only way to truly be legitimate is to play the cartridge on actual hardware.

No, it's not. The NES/SNES Classic are legitimate and legal. So is buying these games on the eshop for the Wii/Wii U.

DrCidd posted...

SNES classic is no different than a Raspberry Pi with retroarch.

They are very different. The NES/SNES Classic are legal products sold by Nintendo. Raspberry Pi and other emulators are not legal products. You have to download pirated game ROMs to use with them. Downloading pirated ROMs is illegal period. It's just as illegal as downloading pirated movies or music or modern games.

That said, I use emulators on my PC, and I like playing old NES/SNES games on my PC with an Xbox One controller, but I am under no delusion that doing that is in any way legal. It is not legal at all. Downloading pirated files is illegal period.

rogerskg1979 posted...

DrCidd posted...

The only way to truly be legitimate is to play the cartridge on actual hardware.

No, it's not. The NES/SNES Classic are legitimate and legal. So is buying these games on the eshop for the Wii/Wii U.

DrCidd posted...

SNES classic is no different than a Raspberry Pi with retroarch.

They are very different. The NES/SNES Classic are legal products sold by Nintendo. Raspberry Pi and other emulators are not legal products. You have to download pirated game ROMs to use with them. Downloading pirated ROMs is illegal period. It's just as illegal as downloading pirated movies or music or modern games.

That said, I use emulators on my PC, and I like playing old NES/SNES games on my PC with an Xbox One controller, but I am under no delusion that doing that is in any way legal. It is not legal at all. Downloading pirated files is illegal period.

Since I own nearly every NES cart and all of the important SNES ones I don't feel the least bit guilty having the roms on my machine. I already paid for them once.

rogerskg1979 posted...

No, it's not. The NES/SNES Classic are legitimate and legal. So is buying these games on the eshop for the Wii/Wii U.

It's still emulation. In other words, it's not legitimate.

rogerskg1979 posted...

They are very different. The NES/SNES Classic are legal products sold by Nintendo. Raspberry Pi and other emulators are not legal products. You have to download pirated game ROMs to use with them. Downloading pirated ROMs is illegal period. It's just as illegal as downloading pirated movies or music or modern games.

You're confusing the words legal and legitimate. I never once claimed emulation on a Raspberry pi was legal.

I just claimed it's not an authentic experience. So you're arguing a point I never made.

So the SNES Classic is an emulation machine, same as a Raspberry pi with retroarch. Neither are authentic. One is clearly legal, but that's not the point I'm making.

So I stand firmly by my statement. The only legitimate way is with a cartridge on the actual hardware.
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rogerskg1979 posted...

pipebomb_phil posted...

rogerskg1979 posted...

pipebomb_phil posted...

I wanted to buy both Classics and play the games legitimately.

The issue with that is that if you truly want to stay legitimate, then you can't add more games to the Classic. Adding games to them is the only thing that makes them worthwhile. Otherwise they are a ripoff.

By legitimate I meant legally.

The classics are a rip off to you but not to me. The games offered are such a great deal. There are some games I never played and some that I only played a little as a child. And like I said in my first post, I have a raspberry pi if I wanted most of the NES and SNES library.

Yeah, I know what you meant. Downloading ROMs is not legal period. Building a raspberry pi emulation machine is therefore not legal, and adding more ROMs to the NES/SNES Classic is therefore not legal either.

Most people don't care though. I don't care either, and I emulate old school games too. However, trying to stay legitimate/legal would mean you could not download ROMs or use a raspberry pi for emulation period.

I think what's he truing to say is that he wants to play them legally. But if he had to play them illegally, he would rather use Raspberry pi rather than a hacked system. Which basically means he doesn't want to use either, but would use raspberry pi first if he had to... I think...
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kukukupo posted...

Since I own nearly every NES cart and all of the important SNES ones I don't feel the least bit guilty having the roms on my machine. I already paid for them once.

I think Fair Use only applies if you make the archive yourself of your own copies instead of downloading one.
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my mom got me one for Christmas

it was fun until I forgot you can't use save states as easily as the Wii u Vc and i lost ALL my metroid data :(
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