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PaddysPub
12/24/18 2:21:29 PM
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The stock market is taking a giant dump again.
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Oops_All_Berrys
12/24/18 2:24:34 PM
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It's the worst December since the Great Depression hmm
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Kyuubi4269
12/24/18 2:28:16 PM
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The stock market is a big circle jerk between no-nothing elitists to begin with, while it operates on superficial economic well-being, it also turns minute losses in to negative feedback cycles and collapses otherwise functional businesses.
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MisterXiado
12/24/18 3:39:47 PM
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The stock market means nothing to people who work for a living, really. I thought Obama had cleaned up Chicago.
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DPsx7
12/24/18 3:58:19 PM
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You know he's not in control of everything right? Lots of lackwits caused this. And because they're so stubborn no one person is going to fix it.
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Oops_All_Berrys
12/24/18 5:14:35 PM
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DPsx7 posted...
You know he's not in control of everything right? Lots of lackwits caused this. And because they're so stubborn no one person is going to fix it.

But he was taking credit when things were going well, talking about residing over the lowest unemployment rate and whatnot
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JOExHIGASHI
12/24/18 5:34:03 PM
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It's hard to say so early into his presidency but his policies so far don't sound like they would do much to help in the long run
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OhhhJa
12/24/18 5:35:24 PM
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This is nothing new. Capitalism is known for peaks and valleys
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PaddysPub
12/24/18 7:08:55 PM
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lmfao drumpf supporters will defend literally everything he does
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Lokarin
12/24/18 7:10:05 PM
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Someone said unemployment is at all time low, is that true?
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OhhhJa
12/24/18 7:13:33 PM
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I'm not really defending him but a few months back when the economy was doing well it was apparently all Obama's doing. Now just a few months later when it drops off its suddenly, "orange man bad." I guess the left has some really precise gauge of exactly the time frame that's involved with which president is to blame for the economy

Apparently the blame shifts right at 22 or 23 months time? I'm sure if it starts to do well again though the left will say because Obama
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JOExHIGASHI
12/24/18 7:24:59 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I'm not really defending him but a few months back when the economy was doing well it was apparently all Obama's doing. Now just a few months later when it drops off its suddenly, "orange man bad." I guess the left has some really precise gauge of exactly the time frame that's involved with which president is to blame for the economy

Apparently the blame shifts right at 22 or 23 months time? I'm sure if it starts to do well again though the left will say because Obama

The economy is still doing good

The stock market is doing worse than before. It has nothing to do with economy or president but Trump took credit for it going up but now that it's going down he's blaming others.
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Valiant_Kaiser
12/24/18 8:07:36 PM
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...
It's the worst December since the Great Depression hmm

Since 1931 of the Great Depression. Decembers 1932 through 1939 are apparently better than this one.
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ZeldaMutant
12/24/18 9:16:26 PM
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"That is Fake News. I never said I was going to make the economy better. From the start, I promised to create the worst economy in the history of economies, maybe ever."
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Mead
12/24/18 9:50:56 PM
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Worst Christmas Eve for the stock market ever.

Tell me again how Trumps tax cuts for the rich improve the economy again
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RoboXgp89
12/24/18 9:53:37 PM
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the only reason unemployment is down is because people have multiple shitty jobs now, old people aren't retiring,
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CacciatoPart3
12/24/18 11:25:01 PM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
the only reason unemployment is down is because people have multiple shitty jobs now, old people aren't retiring,

Yeah, champ. Thats it. Glad to see your economics degree is working so well.
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Zeus
12/24/18 11:42:59 PM
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Overlooking that the stock market isn't even close to being the same thing as the economy, the market *was* doing phenomenally well for most of his tenure-- a rather inconvenient fact missed in these shit topics. Not to mention that part of the stock market's troubles is that the economy *is* doing well which causes issues like labor shortages. Other tariff-related problems are a direct result of his actions, although the tariffs' short-term pain could result in long-term gains if it actually pushes nations like China to change their behaviors (which includes hiring state-sponsored and sanctioned hackers to steal proprietary information from US companies to benefit Chinese ones and completely ignoring copyright law).

Lokarin posted...
Someone said unemployment is at all time low, is that true?


Lowest in 50 years, at any rate. Granted, just like before, part of that reflects underemployment although there are still a lot of jobs that employers are having difficulty filling.
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RoboXgp89
12/24/18 11:54:36 PM
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40% of the country has like a few k in savings
that's not right
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Zeus
12/25/18 12:02:28 AM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
40% of the country has like a few k in savings
that's not right


Which isn't necessarily an economic issue. Even at higher income levels, you still have people who basically live paycheck-to-paycheck.
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RoboXgp89
12/25/18 12:05:38 AM
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i don't think there's an economist alive who said we weren't going to dip into another recession between 2015-2020
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Sonicplys
12/25/18 12:12:18 AM
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Trump can go take a hike
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Yellow
12/25/18 12:43:04 AM
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This isn't a natural cycle for the economy. The stock market crash is due to Reaganomics and market deregulation.

Me and many other people predicted this early on. I don't know if anyone remembers me going on about this, before this or the previous market slump this year.

It happens every time. Regan did it, Bill did it, Bush did it. It happened during the roaring 20s.

The hacks on mainstream news will actually say a tweet from some Trump admin caused it. It's caused because people like Goldman Sachs have two feet in the white house. (Now literally)
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CacciatoPart3
12/25/18 6:27:08 AM
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Sonicplys posted...
Trump can go take a hike

He is obese. That hike is not likely.
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Kyuubi4269
12/25/18 6:53:47 AM
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CacciatoPart3 posted...
Sonicplys posted...
Trump can go take a hike

He is obese. That hike is not likely.

He's in perfect health (officially), let him hike in to the woods.
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BUMPED2002
12/25/18 10:33:17 AM
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PaddysPub posted...
The stock market is taking a giant dump again.

This would have happened last year had it not been for the boost from the $1.7T tax cut.
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Mover_of_Zigs
12/25/18 12:58:09 PM
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Human beings are fools. There was a absolutely no reason for us to make our economy this complicated. We're being controlled by our own imaginary systems.
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Zeus
12/26/18 11:22:52 PM
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Dow just had a record-breaking day. I want to see Dirt make a topic about that now.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/investing/stock-market-today/index.html
https://www.nj.com/news/2018/12/dow-jones-sees-biggest-day-ever-as-stock-market-rebounds.html
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Mead
12/26/18 11:26:04 PM
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Zeus posted...
Dow just had a record-breaking day. I want to see Dirt make a topic about that now.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/investing/stock-market-today/index.html
https://www.nj.com/news/2018/12/dow-jones-sees-biggest-day-ever-as-stock-market-rebounds.html


How many times have you tried to discredit other users for posting a link from cnn
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Zeus
12/26/18 11:31:28 PM
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Mead posted...
Zeus posted...
Dow just had a record-breaking day. I want to see Dirt make a topic about that now.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/investing/stock-market-today/index.html
https://www.nj.com/news/2018/12/dow-jones-sees-biggest-day-ever-as-stock-market-rebounds.html


How many times have you tried to discredit other users for posting a link from cnn


When even CNN with its substantial bias and tendency to negatively spin anything Trump-related is reporting something beneficial to Trump, that adds to the legitimacy. It's no different than Fox News reporting something good about Obama.

In general, though, I heard about it on NPR this evening and just grabbed one of the first links that popped up in search
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Mead
12/26/18 11:35:42 PM
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Zeus posted...
Mead posted...
Zeus posted...
Dow just had a record-breaking day. I want to see Dirt make a topic about that now.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/investing/stock-market-today/index.html
https://www.nj.com/news/2018/12/dow-jones-sees-biggest-day-ever-as-stock-market-rebounds.html


How many times have you tried to discredit other users for posting a link from cnn


When even CNN with its substantial bias and tendency to negatively spin anything Trump-related is reporting something beneficial to Trump, that adds to the legitimacy. It's no different than Fox News reporting something good about Obama.

In general, though, I heard about it on NPR this evening and just grabbed one of the first links that popped up in search


Hey at least youre conceding that Fox News is bias af
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Yellow
12/26/18 11:47:02 PM
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Zeus posted...
Dow just had a record-breaking day. I want to see Dirt make a topic about that now.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/investing/stock-market-today/index.html
https://www.nj.com/news/2018/12/dow-jones-sees-biggest-day-ever-as-stock-market-rebounds.html

Hopefully it keeps going. I put $1000 in the stock market in right before it hit rock bottom.

NVidia would be a pretty good buy right now if I had anything to spare. They've got a lead in AI, even if they never make another good graphics card (and they probably will).
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Blaqthourne
12/27/18 1:15:25 AM
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If you're going to equate the current stock market to the President's effectiveness on the economy, then Trump has made the economy better, since the Dow is up 2000+, NASDAQ is up 1000+, and S&P 500 is up ~200, with the Russell 2k down about 40, since when he was sworn in.
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Zeus
12/27/18 1:24:11 AM
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Mead posted...
Zeus posted...
Mead posted...
Zeus posted...
Dow just had a record-breaking day. I want to see Dirt make a topic about that now.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/26/investing/stock-market-today/index.html
https://www.nj.com/news/2018/12/dow-jones-sees-biggest-day-ever-as-stock-market-rebounds.html


How many times have you tried to discredit other users for posting a link from cnn


When even CNN with its substantial bias and tendency to negatively spin anything Trump-related is reporting something beneficial to Trump, that adds to the legitimacy. It's no different than Fox News reporting something good about Obama.

In general, though, I heard about it on NPR this evening and just grabbed one of the first links that popped up in search


Hey at least youre conceding that Fox News is bias af


Now? I always grouped CNN, WaPo, CNBC, Fox News, etc, together when it came to bias.

Blaqthourne posted...
If you're going to equate the current stock market to the President's effectiveness on the economy, then Trump has made the economy better, since the Dow is up 2000+, NASDAQ is up 1000+, and S&P 500 is up ~200, with the Russell 2k down about 40, since when he was sworn in.


Yeah, iirc even when it fell it was still above where it was.
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Mead
12/27/18 1:28:39 AM
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Now? I always grouped CNN, WaPo, CNBC, Fox News, etc, together when it came to bias.


Nah dude I know you love your both sides-isms but you typically just rail against any left leaning posts
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Zeus
12/27/18 1:42:48 AM
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Mead posted...
Now? I always grouped CNN, WaPo, CNBC, Fox News, etc, together when it came to bias.


Nah dude I know you love your both sides-isms but you typically just rail against any left leaning posts


Bullshit. I drew comparisons in the same breath.
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darkknight109
12/27/18 2:08:30 AM
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The effect that politicians have on the economy is generally vastly overstated by both pundits and politicians. While it's true that staggering idiocy can have dire effects on an economy, it typically only happens in third-world dictatorships because of truly brainless monetary policy. While politicians can help boost a good economy or ease a bad one, the market will boom and bust largely of its own accord.

Trump was an idiot when he was claiming credit for the roaring economy (that was roaring before he was ever elected) and while he certainly had a hand in the recent tailspin by spooking the markets (Protip: Don't say that there's an imminent deal with China, then call yourself "Tariff Man"), he's not the main culprit in the markets turning bearish.
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Mead
12/27/18 2:15:58 AM
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The stock market on the other hand is largely dependent on confidence and a lot of uncertainty has been caused by the clustering bumblefuck of lies and ineptitude that is Trump
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ClarkDuke
12/27/18 3:48:48 AM
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Zeus posted...
Mead posted...
Now? I always grouped CNN, WaPo, CNBC, Fox News, etc, together when it came to bias.


Nah dude I know you love your both sides-isms but you typically just rail against any left leaning posts


Bullshit. I drew comparisons in the same breath.

We all can remember your previous posts Brett, ok?
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Yellow
12/27/18 4:38:12 AM
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https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/%5EDJI/

Worth noting, it's not certain the market is bouncing back. One small spike up (after a single day) after a big spike down is not exactly a crazy thing.

I honestly hope it does tbh, otherwise, I'm going to lose a lot of money.
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Troll_Police_
12/28/18 9:16:17 AM
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Up 1.5% since the start of the shutdown
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gguirao
12/28/18 1:01:19 PM
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Sonicplys posted...
Trump can go take a hike.

Yeah, right off a fucking cliff.
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Oops_All_Berrys
12/28/18 1:18:27 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
Up 1.5% since the start of the shutdown

Down 30% for the month but let's forget about that
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OhhhJa
12/28/18 1:57:36 PM
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Oops_All_Berrys posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
Up 1.5% since the start of the shutdown

Down 30% for the month but let's forget about that

But just last month you guys were saying the current economy is a result of Obama's policies
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BlackScythe0
12/28/18 6:18:39 PM
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Trump was never going to make the economy better he is an imbecile.

Republicans don't want the economy to get better. They give their pals hand outs and then run against the things democrats have to do to fix things when they try exercising responsible economic policy.
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Zeus
12/28/18 10:28:42 PM
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Mead posted...
The stock market on the other hand is largely dependent on confidence and a lot of uncertainty has been caused by the clustering bumblefuck of lies and ineptitude that is Trump


lolwut? You're talking about consumer confidence being hurt while ignoring that the epitome of an anti-business president left office.... not to mention that you supported a candidate who, if he had his way, would likely abolish the stock market and put everything under government control.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Trump was never going to make the economy better he is an imbecile.


All he had to do to improve the economy was rollback Obama's nonsense.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Republicans don't want the economy to get better. They give their pals hand outs and then run against the things democrats have to do to fix things when they try exercising responsible economic policy.


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BlackScythe0
12/28/18 10:32:53 PM
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Embracing the full on shit post Zeus?
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ssj4supervegeta
12/28/18 10:33:28 PM
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PaddysPub posted...
The stock market is taking a giant dump again.

when the economy is doing well trump says he's doing great. everyone who hates trump ignores it and says "it has nothing to do with you"

when the economy isn't doing well trump says nothing, everyone who hates him goes "OH i thought you were making it better!"

It's a pretty petty thing. Trump is an idiot but the economy has little to do with what he's done so far.
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BlackScythe0
12/28/18 10:37:41 PM
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ssj4supervegeta posted...
PaddysPub posted...
The stock market is taking a giant dump again.

when the economy is doing well trump says he's doing great. everyone who hates trump ignores it and says "it has nothing to do with you"

when the economy isn't doing well trump says nothing, everyone who hates him goes "OH i thought you were making it better!"

It's a pretty petty thing. Trump is an idiot but the economy has little to do with what he's done so far.

Jan 19 2017 conservatives "OMG THE ECONOMY IS SHIT WTF!"
After noon Jan 20 2017 "OMG THE ECONOMY IS SO GREAT HAIL GOD KING TRUMP!"

Nah man it's not like the tax scam and the felon in chief being chaos incarnate have anything to do with it. It's not like stability is vitally important to the economy.
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Mead
12/28/18 10:47:18 PM
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not to mention that you supported a candidate who, if he had his way, would likely abolish the stock market and put everything under government control.


Classic Zeus posting inane shit with no basis in reality
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