Poll of the Day > Forever 21 causes Outrage after they used a WHITE MODEL to promote WAKANDA!!!

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mrduckbear
12/18/18 10:50:46 PM
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Do you think it was stupid to use a white model to promote wakanda forever? - Results (3 votes)
Yes
66.67% (2 votes)
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No
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Forever 21 is facing outrage after they used a White model with blue eyes and very blonde hair to showcase a Wakanda sweater from Black Panther!!

The LA retailer raised eyebrows by tweeting the image of a white model showing off the bright coloured sweater that reads "Wakanda Forever"

It's in reference to the super smash 2018 Marvel Film that depicted a fictional Africa utopia of Wakanda and starred Chadwick Boseman as T'Challa

They quickly deleted it but images of the white model were still circulating as the company apologized

They said "Forever 21 takes feedback on our products and marketing extremely seriously. We celebrate all superheroes with many different models of various ethnicities and apologize if the photo in question was offensive in any way"

Twitter users were not so kind as one sasid "Where did Forever 21 find this model? Al Bino's Lilywhite Modeling Agency and bleach Shop?"...

and another said "Wakanda bulls***"

The model was removed from the store as 2 other black panther themed items were still shown with black models

It's not the first time a retailer caused outrage after H&M released a sweater of a black boy modeling a hoodie that said "Coolest Monkey in the Jungle"

Do you think it was stupid to use a white guy to promote wakanda forever?

The white model -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/18/23/7592192-6509805-image-a-1_1545175460452.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/18/23/7592176-6509805-image-m-9_1545175839618.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/18/23/7592182-6509805-image-a-10_1545175842678.jpg

Other wakanda shirts -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/18/23/7593900-6509805-Forever_21_still_showed_two_other_Black_Panther_themed_items_wit-a-17_1545175951218.jpg

Outrage -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/18/23/7593902-6509805-image-a-12_1545175873572.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/18/23/7593898-6509805-image-a-13_1545175876799.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/18/23/7593894-6509805-image-a-15_1545175885507.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/01/08/08/47E2B3B600000578-0-image-a-1_1515401525943.jpg
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Oops_All_Berrys
12/18/18 10:53:56 PM
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Oh shit three people are outraged
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JoeDangIt
12/18/18 10:58:36 PM
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I didn't even know people could be that white, this seems like the kind of faux pas that a company would have to go out of it's way to make happen.
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LaggnFragnLarry
12/18/18 11:04:20 PM
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thats not the real slim shady
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Istillhateyou
12/18/18 11:11:28 PM
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wakanda is fake, don't touch it, it's as toxic as detroit
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Super_Thug44
12/19/18 12:06:33 AM
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It's absolutely stupid from a marketing perspective. But should people care? Not at all.
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Zeus
12/19/18 12:12:25 AM
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People on social getting annoyed by a white guy wearing a Wakanda shirt is one of the silliest nontroversies of the month, especially since it's mostly nerdy white guys wearing that stuff.

mrduckbear posted...
They said "Forever 21 takes feedback on our products and marketing extremely seriously. We celebrate all superheroes with many different models of various ethnicities and apologize if the photo in question was offensive in any way"


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mrduckbear posted...
The white model -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/18/23/7592192-6509805-image-a-1_1545175460452.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/18/23/7592176-6509805-image-m-9_1545175839618.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/18/23/7592182-6509805-image-a-10_1545175842678.jpg


Oh, so that's what Pete Davidson is doing these days
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PKMNsony
12/19/18 12:42:00 AM
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Good.
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SkynyrdRocker
12/19/18 12:56:44 AM
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That is one pale man
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Revelation34
12/19/18 1:17:33 AM
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They're fucking stupid for removing the image.
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_AdjI_
12/19/18 1:26:28 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
They're fucking stupid for removing the image.


They're stupid for removing a marketing image that was generating more bad publicity than good? And here I thought that was just basic business sense.
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Zeus
12/19/18 1:30:57 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Revelation34 posted...
They're fucking stupid for removing the image.


They're stupid for removing a marketing image that was generating more bad publicity than good? And here I thought that was just basic business sense.


idk, Nike doubled down on their terrible controversial decision and the whole thing simmered down.
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Revelation34
12/19/18 1:36:50 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
They're stupid for removing a marketing image that was generating more bad publicity than good? And here I thought that was just basic business sense.


You should never cater to an SJW.
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zebatov
12/19/18 1:37:27 AM
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And now you know how we feel about a black James Bond.

Revelation34 posted...
You should never cater to an SJW.

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_AdjI_
12/19/18 1:41:04 AM
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Zeus posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
Revelation34 posted...
They're fucking stupid for removing the image.


They're stupid for removing a marketing image that was generating more bad publicity than good? And here I thought that was just basic business sense.


idk, Nike doubled down on their terrible controversial decision and the whole thing simmered down.


Nike made a deliberate decision to use Kaepernick as a spokesman, and I also wouldn't be at all surprised if the whole thing generated net positive publicity. I guarantee they were expecting the backlash they got, and gambled that the support would end up compensating for that. This? I'm pretty positive that this was a simple matter of hiring a model and handing him a pile of shirts to wear, one of which happened to be representing a movie about Africans and therefore not something people necessarily want to see modeled by the whitest kid they could find (especially where the movie in question was so highly praised for featuring so many black actors in a major film). This was carelessness, not anything deliberate, and without any sort of plan to compensate for the backlash, erasing the mistake is the most sensible way to move forward.
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_AdjI_
12/19/18 1:42:33 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
They're stupid for removing a marketing image that was generating more bad publicity than good? And here I thought that was just basic business sense.


You should never cater to an SJW.


Except that Forever 21 doesn't care about sticking it to SJW's. They care about making money. They made a mistake that cost them some publicity, so they took it down to mitigate the impact of the mistake. They couldn't care less about your inane Internet principles. They're only concerned about their bottom line.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
12/19/18 1:49:28 AM
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Who knew? You can't wear this shirt if you are white, and Twitter is full of racists.
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Lokarin
12/19/18 1:50:30 AM
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Wow, the Wakanda fans are racists if they can't see past the colour of a model
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Kyuubi4269
12/19/18 1:54:37 AM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Who knew? You can't wear this shirt if you are white, and Twitter is full of racists.

Basically this. If anything, it better to show a white model wearing it to make white people feel more comfortable buying their product.

However, as you can see, racists will attack white people who wear it so it's not a safe message.
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Revelation34
12/19/18 2:09:40 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Except that Forever 21 doesn't care about sticking it to SJW's. They care about making money. They made a mistake that cost them some publicity, so they took it down to mitigate the impact of the mistake. They couldn't care less about your inane Internet principles. They're only concerned about their bottom line.


SJWs wouldn't have been customers anyway.
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Lokarin
12/19/18 2:14:23 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
Except that Forever 21 doesn't care about sticking it to SJW's. They care about making money. They made a mistake that cost them some publicity, so they took it down to mitigate the impact of the mistake. They couldn't care less about your inane Internet principles. They're only concerned about their bottom line.


SJWs wouldn't have been customers anyway.


Meanwhile, in SJW-land

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6508263/Swedens-man-free-feminist-music-festival-guilty-discrimination-authorities.html
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Keebs05
12/19/18 2:22:03 AM
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Outrage over a white model wearing an ugly sweater based on a fictional city. You can't make this shit up.
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knivesX2004
12/19/18 2:53:12 AM
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That black sweater with the panthers is pretty rad.
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RoboXgp89
12/19/18 3:40:53 AM
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that's almost as fictional as heaven
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aDirtyShisno
12/19/18 3:54:20 AM
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So all Im getting is that white people are not allowed to be fans of Black Panther...
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Xfma100
12/19/18 8:36:50 AM
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Anyone remember the girl who got a ton of backlash for wearing a Chinese dress?

Why do people care so much about what other people wear?
What's next? Women can't wear mannish clothes and men can't wear anything feminine?
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Zeus
12/19/18 8:54:14 AM
#28:


Lokarin posted...
Wow, the Wakanda fans are racists if they can't see past the colour of a model


Isn't Wakanda itself highly racist, though?

Kyuubi4269 posted...
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Who knew? You can't wear this shirt if you are white, and Twitter is full of racists.

Basically this. If anything, it better to show a white model wearing it to make white people feel more comfortable buying their product.

However, as you can see, racists will attack white people who wear it so it's not a safe message.


Yeah, the optics on this are terrible and the decision to remove the equal representation is definitely going to hurt Forever 21's sales.
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Kyuubi4269
12/19/18 9:04:02 AM
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Xfma100 posted...
What's next? Women can't wear mannish clothes and men can't wear anything feminine?

That's basically the origin of transgenderism.
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InhumaneRaider
12/19/18 9:33:45 AM
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I mean, it is kind of stupid.
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Fam_Fam
12/19/18 11:05:01 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Xfma100 posted...
What's next? Women can't wear mannish clothes and men can't wear anything feminine?

That's basically the origin of transgenderism.


you think transgenderism is about clothes?
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VeeVees
12/19/18 11:09:47 AM
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Yes, it's stupid because they should've known there will be whiny little bitches whining about it.
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ninja_lootz
12/19/18 11:27:55 AM
#33:


_AdjI_ posted...
Revelation34 posted...
They're fucking stupid for removing the image.


They're stupid for removing a marketing image that was generating more bad publicity than good? And here I thought that was just basic business sense.

Bending over to appease a handful of racists is basic business sense?
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Kyuubi4269
12/19/18 11:29:36 AM
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Fam_Fam posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Xfma100 posted...
What's next? Women can't wear mannish clothes and men can't wear anything feminine?

That's basically the origin of transgenderism.


you think transgenderism is about clothes?

It's about failure to accept feminine men and masculine women.
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Fam_Fam
12/19/18 11:52:01 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Xfma100 posted...
What's next? Women can't wear mannish clothes and men can't wear anything feminine?

That's basically the origin of transgenderism.


you think transgenderism is about clothes?

It's about failure to accept feminine men and masculine women.


i agree that's part of the issue. most people agree that it's about more than that.
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kangolcone
12/19/18 11:58:38 AM
#36:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Fam_Fam posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Xfma100 posted...
What's next? Women can't wear mannish clothes and men can't wear anything feminine?

That's basically the origin of transgenderism.


you think transgenderism is about clothes?

It's about failure to accept feminine men and masculine women.


Ok, now your idiocy in the other topic makes a lot more sense. If you believe transgender simply means a man is feminine, it would explain your lack of comprehension, understanding and compassion when it comes to the Trans community.
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OhhhJa
12/19/18 11:59:19 AM
#37:


mrduckbear posted...
they used a White model with blue eyes and very blonde hair

This seems like a pretty racist thing to point out. TC, quit being a racist scumbag
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Istillhateyou
12/19/18 12:18:49 PM
#38:


ninja_lootz posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
Revelation34 posted...
They're fucking stupid for removing the image.


They're stupid for removing a marketing image that was generating more bad publicity than good? And here I thought that was just basic business sense.

Bending over to appease a handful of racists is basic business sense?


As long as the racists are brown, then yes. There opressed, after all, open your eyes, just look at that white kid wearing a shirt, it's like a second holocaust
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OhhhJa
12/19/18 12:24:05 PM
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MLK would be truly proud that we've reached such a state of equality that white people arent allowed to wear shirts about a fictional marvel place
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wwinterj25
12/19/18 12:31:29 PM
#40:


mrduckbear posted...
Do you think it was stupid to use a white model to promote wakanda forever?

For folk who were celebrating how progressive Black Panther was they sure as hell go back on that if it involves a white person. Seems hypocritical to be honest. I only wish these companies wouldn't panda to those people. Even more so those who shitpost on social media.
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Kyuubi4269
12/19/18 12:36:04 PM
#41:


kangolcone posted...
Ok, now your idiocy in the other topic makes a lot more sense. If you believe transgender simply means a man is feminine, it would explain your lack of comprehension, understanding and compassion when it comes to the Trans community.

There shouldn't be a community for trans, much as we don't have the schizo comminity.

They are ill people with self-destructive personal image problems who need help. It's not helpful to change the world to suit them when they are the anomaly.
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Revelation34
12/19/18 1:23:25 PM
#42:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
That's basically the origin of transgenderism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o" data-time="

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kangolcone
12/19/18 1:38:50 PM
#43:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
Ok, now your idiocy in the other topic makes a lot more sense. If you believe transgender simply means a man is feminine, it would explain your lack of comprehension, understanding and compassion when it comes to the Trans community.

There shouldn't be a community for trans, much as we don't have the schizo comminity.

They are ill people with self-destructive personal image problems who need help. It's not helpful to change the world to suit them when they are the anomaly.


Lol. You realize this is the exact justification used on homosexuality as a whole?

And btw, I can tell you dont work in mental health or education because there is 100% a mental illness community.
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slacker03150
12/19/18 1:43:01 PM
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I could see there being an issue both ways. But I think a black model would have been the safer route. Or multiple models.
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Lokarin
12/19/18 1:44:29 PM
#45:


slacker03150 posted...
I could see there being an issue both ways. But I think a black model would have been the safer route. Or multiple models.


So you're saying skin colour is literally a choice...
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slacker03150
12/19/18 1:57:35 PM
#46:


What? How am I saying that at all? I'm saying with a black model it could be argued that they are using a black person to advertise a black super hero like it is something they are aloud to enjoy while whites have different heroes.

A white model gets us the current backlash. A black model would have been safer. But using 2 models would have avoided it all together. I have seen shirts with multiple models online before.no reason they couldn't do it here.
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Lokarin
12/19/18 2:00:32 PM
#47:


slacker03150 posted...
What? How am I saying that at all?


Oopsie, I was making a joke (since model selection was literally a choice by the company) and I feel bad that you took it straight faced... :V
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Istillhateyou
12/19/18 2:02:12 PM
#48:


kangolcone posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
Ok, now your idiocy in the other topic makes a lot more sense. If you believe transgender simply means a man is feminine, it would explain your lack of comprehension, understanding and compassion when it comes to the Trans community.

There shouldn't be a community for trans, much as we don't have the schizo comminity.

They are ill people with self-destructive personal image problems who need help. It's not helpful to change the world to suit them when they are the anomaly.


Lol. You realize this is the exact justification used on homosexuality as a whole?

And btw, I can tell you dont work in mental health or education because there is 100% a mental illness community.


And?
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kangolcone
12/19/18 2:03:44 PM
#49:


Istillhateyou posted...
kangolcone posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
Ok, now your idiocy in the other topic makes a lot more sense. If you believe transgender simply means a man is feminine, it would explain your lack of comprehension, understanding and compassion when it comes to the Trans community.

There shouldn't be a community for trans, much as we don't have the schizo comminity.

They are ill people with self-destructive personal image problems who need help. It's not helpful to change the world to suit them when they are the anomaly.


Lol. You realize this is the exact justification used on homosexuality as a whole?

And btw, I can tell you dont work in mental health or education because there is 100% a mental illness community.


And?


And what? Im succincintly expressing why his points are invalid. What more are you asking for?
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Istillhateyou
12/19/18 2:09:06 PM
#50:


kangolcone posted...
Istillhateyou posted...
kangolcone posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
kangolcone posted...
Ok, now your idiocy in the other topic makes a lot more sense. If you believe transgender simply means a man is feminine, it would explain your lack of comprehension, understanding and compassion when it comes to the Trans community.

There shouldn't be a community for trans, much as we don't have the schizo comminity.

They are ill people with self-destructive personal image problems who need help. It's not helpful to change the world to suit them when they are the anomaly.


Lol. You realize this is the exact justification used on homosexuality as a whole?

And btw, I can tell you dont work in mental health or education because there is 100% a mental illness community.


And?


And what? Im succincintly expressing why his points are invalid. What more are you asking for?


I don't get wat point you were making with the "you realize this is the exact justification used on homosexual as a whole" there mental disorders in the same ballpark
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