Board 8 > *~~SephG ranks the classic 2D console platformers~~*

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Is it really a generational bucket if youre counting NES?
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Even if you excluded Square, I still think you could probably get over 10 all-time Classic RPGs out of the 5th Generation (and contemporary PC)
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pjbasis posted...

I think Golden Age can refer to a time of not only quality but also quantity.

Platformers were THE in-genre of the late 80s to mid 90s. Lots of bad ones, but also lots of decent to good ones that people still don't really remember too much.

First it was arcade games, then platformers, then Halo turned it into FPSes, and it's been FPSes since, huh?
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pjbasis posted...

Platformers were THE in-genre of the late 80s to mid 90s. Lots of bad ones, but also lots of decent to good ones that people still don't really remember too much.

A personal favorite of mine that I don't think I've ever known anyone else to have played: Tonic Trouble. Ubisoft 3D platformer, same era as Rayman 2: The Great Escape (which is an undeniable classic itself). The main character, a purple alien named Ed, even lacked limbs in the same way that Rayman did. It wasn't the most groundbreaking game out there, but I had a lot of fun with it.

I found out about it by happening to pick up some gaming magazine one day in which there was an ad for three games on one page: Rayman 2, Rocket: Robot on Wheels, and Tonic Trouble. My brother had Rayman 2, and for some reason Tonic Trouble stood out to me from that page, so I asked for it for my next birthday.

Still haven't played Rocket: Robot on Wheels, but it is in my backlog. And I understand it is also supposed to have been really good.
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It's weird how there are so few remotely prominent old school 2D platformers besides the three series this topic was about where you actually want to jump on/into enemies. There's DuckTales and SNES Aladdin and...I'm not sure I can think of any others.
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Ray Man? Earthworm Jim?
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Haven't played Earthworm Jim but I generally see that described as a run-and-gun. Can also jump on enemies to kill them?

Been awhile since I've played Rayman and I never got too far but I recall mainly fighting enemies with the fist. Could you also jump on them?
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I don't think jumping on enemies is a requirement of platformers. It's more about timing jumps and stuff.
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Bubsy.

But there's literally no indication which enemies you can jump on and which ones you cannot, so...
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Tiny Toons.
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So guys, remind me about Super Mario 64... I recall that it's somewhat nonlinear. I haven't played it in forever, but you have to collect stars to open new worlds right? But there are multiple stars per level? Am I remembering correctly?
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7 stars per level except for boss stages and a few special levels.

But none of the levels except boss stages are linear
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KingButz posted...

7 stars per level except for boss stages and a few special levels.

But none of the levels except boss stages are linear

And you only need a certain amount of stars to progress right? All of the stars just alters the ending slightly?
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Yeah progression in the overworld areas is locked behind doors that need a certain number of stars to open

Edit: you do not need 100% to beat the game
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lordjers posted...

Tiny Toons.

great nes game
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

KingButz posted...

7 stars per level except for boss stages and a few special levels.

But none of the levels except boss stages are linear

And you only need a certain amount of stars to progress right? All of the stars just alters the ending slightly?

It's not the ending that alters really, you just get access to a small, previously inaccessible area and a delightful cameo.

SM64 is literally my favorite game of all time. I recommend it, even if you're not playing it for a series like in this topic.

Of course I haven't played it in several years, now. If memory serves, you only need about 60 of the 120 stars in the game to beat it.
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70 to be exact

EDIT: Unless youre willing to exploit glitches like speedrunners
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Hm. Well I guess this topic has sort of turned into a gaming blog, so here's where I'm at:

-I am being coaxed into playing Dishonored because it's my brother in law's favorite game and he gave me his old 360 that I've yet to touch, so I felt compelled to give it a shot. I played an hour of it and I am struggling mightily with not murdering everyone because stealth + first-person POV is an impossible combination for me

-I have a hankering to play some Mario 64, but I need to either beat Dishonored or suck enough where I legitimately can't enjoy it anymore

-I kind of want to play Sonic Spinball with an infinite lives game genie code. I liked the game as a kid, and the art style is awesome, but I know it's absurdly cheap and difficult. But infinite lives isn't REALLY cheating right?!
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Dishonored is always a game I wanted to get around to playing but never did. I love Bioshock and I've heard good things about Dishonored but I've just never gotten around to it.
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Suprak the Stud posted...

Dishonored is always a game I wanted to get around to playing but never did. I love Bioshock and I've heard good things about Dishonored but I've just never gotten around to it.

It definitely looks gorgeous and has a great atmosphere. Im just having trouble seeing how the stealth will work at all.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Suprak the Stud posted...

Dishonored is always a game I wanted to get around to playing but never did. I love Bioshock and I've heard good things about Dishonored but I've just never gotten around to it.

It definitely looks gorgeous and has a great atmosphere. Im just having trouble seeing how the stealth will work at all.

If you haven't completed the escape mission and don't have Blink yet...

just keep going
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Ok I don't have the patience for this

Sorry brother in law
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Does that mean you're going to start SM64?

Mostly for my own amusement, I compiled a list of my top 50 stars from the game and made brief writeups for them several years ago...I don't know if I still have the writeups, but I do have the ranking. I may toss those out in the interest of discussion as you come across them if you're going to play that game next.

I'll also post my ranking of the worlds in the game, because why not:

1.Rainbow Ride
2.Tick Tock Clock
3.Shifting Sand Land
4.Lethal Lava Land
5.Big Boo's Haunt
6.Tall, Tall Mountain
7.Whomp's Fortress
8.Wet-Dry World
9.Bob-omb Battlefield
10.Jolly Roger Bay
11.Cool, Cool Mountain
12.Hazy Maze Cave
13.Tiny-Huge Island
14.Dire, Dire Docks
15.Snowman's Land

Keep in mind that there's no such thing as a bad world in this game, as far as I'm concerned.
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I guess the 3D platformers could be a series.

SM64, Crash, Spyro, B-K
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VectorAgent posted...

Does that mean you're going to start SM64?

I think I just might after the Christmas festivities!

Dire, dire docks is one of my go-to video game chill songs, so I'm pretty excited for the playthrough.
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Attempting to beat Sonic Spinball tonight.

I forgot how cool looking the game and bosses are. Underrated!
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Well the final stage of this game is fucking impossible. Has anyone ever tormented themselves like I just did? Even with infinite lives, the last stage requires the most tedious precision... just to move one screen left. Jesus fucking Christ.
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What a maddening way to end a really unique, cool-looking game. There's no way to even cheat my way through this besides using save states or something.
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This game gave me fever dreams
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Merry Xmas buds
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Merry Christmas.

Im completely unfamiliar with the Sonic game you played, so nothing much to say about that, ha ha.

Definitely looking forward to reading your Mario 64 adventures.
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Well I went back and beat the last level of Sonic Spinball finally.

Honestly, if this game wasn't so impossibly difficult (I beat it with infinite lives and went through about 50 in the last level alone--default is THREE), it would be a pretty enjoyable random spinoff. And if there were like 2-3 more levels (with the reduced difficulty), this would be a better game than Sonic 2.

However, the difficulty is NOT something that can be changed, so this was one of the most frustrating games I've ever played all the way through. It is like Battletoads-level infuriating.
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I tried giving a good run to Sonic Spinball like ten years ago, and decided it wasn't worth my time to try and beat it. It is so dumb in how random it is.
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The first three levels are actually really enjoyable once you figure out the paths of least resistance (ie, the ones that involve the least randomness).

That final level absolutely tarnishes the game though.
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A giant block yelling at Mario for people "walking all over" him. Has any Mario game even come close to the charm of 64?
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Paper Mario!
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Most of the Mario RPGs (with some rare exceptions like Sticker Star) have an amazing personality to them.
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Also is there literally any disincentive to me losing my lives other than having to walk a little further in the castle?
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Also is there literally any disincentive to me losing my lives other than having to walk a little further in the castle?

Nope!
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Also is there literally any disincentive to me losing my lives other than having to walk a little further in the castle?

This is true from now on, but sadly it took them until Odyssey to ditch the lives count.

The 1-Up Mushroom was too iconic to abandon I guess
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Jakyl25 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Also is there literally any disincentive to me losing my lives other than having to walk a little further in the castle?

This is true from now on, but sadly it took them until Odyssey to ditch the lives count.

The 1-Up Mushroom was too iconic to abandon I guess

Yeah it seems like half the time it's a totally pointless risk to chase it

The music in this game is so dreamy btw. Chills.
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Note that its only the case in the 3D games; the NSMB series goes back to SMWs method of only saving after a fortress or castle (until youve beaten the game; after that you can save after every level if you want).
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Which stars have you gotten so far?

If you're cool with it, I'll share my top 50 as you get them!
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