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gna647
12/17/18 1:44:23 PM
#451:


voldothegr8 posted...
Online also occasionally resets to the default control scheme too which is annoying. Even when I choose my profile the c-stick will smash instead of tilt

You have to choose your name. When you select character online

It lists your user id by default but it doesnt mean your control profile is selected
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Azardea
12/17/18 3:01:46 PM
#452:


Super bad/casual player here, but I want to know something... Is there a way to reliably avoid Bowser's final smash? The only way I could find is to stay off screen, which is easier said than done depending on the character.
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Alpha218
12/17/18 3:05:24 PM
#453:


Spot dodge
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wackyteen
12/18/18 6:22:50 AM
#454:


Tbh now that I've finished WoL, I've kind of grown bored of the game.

Everything kind of feels ancillary now
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Slaya4
12/18/18 6:48:10 AM
#455:


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Leffen (Top) and Zero (Bottom) updated tier list comparison

https://imgur.com/HwDplc6

Basically they agree Inkling, Chrom, Pikachu, Peach, and Yoshi are top tier, while Kirby, Little Mac, and Jr are trash tier


A few tweaks I would make here and there on both lists. Mewtwo is definitely a top/high A tier character. Young Link is A tier the only thing holding him back is a solid kill confirm, but he can pressure crazy good. Meta knight Im doubly for being A tier though I havent played him a lot. I may get flack, but I honestly do not see Ritcher/Simon as top tier. Id honestly put them as a low A/Solid B tier.
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Dragonblade01
12/18/18 8:35:24 AM
#456:


Rolling is definitely a bad habit. Gonna only let myself shield and do spot dodges on the ground until I break it.
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Alpha218
12/18/18 9:06:34 AM
#457:


Dragonblade01 posted...
Rolling is definitely a bad habit. Gonna only let myself shield and do spot dodges on the ground until I break it.

You can jump straight out of shield in this game. Spot dodges go stale too I believe
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voldothegr8
12/18/18 9:30:17 AM
#458:


Slaya4 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Leffen (Top) and Zero (Bottom) updated tier list comparison

https://imgur.com/HwDplc6

Basically they agree Inkling, Chrom, Pikachu, Peach, and Yoshi are top tier, while Kirby, Little Mac, and Jr are trash tier


A few tweaks I would make here and there on both lists. Mewtwo is definitely a top/high A tier character. Young Link is A tier the only thing holding him back is a solid kill confirm, but he can pressure crazy good. Meta knight Im doubly for being A tier though I havent played him a lot. I may get flack, but I honestly do not see Ritcher/Simon as top tier. Id honestly put them as a low A/Solid B tier.

Funny you mention that as Zero just updated his list. Here are his changes from Aug 13, Nov 5, Nov 9, Dec 8, Dec 14, and Dec 17 lists

Changes:

B - A - A - A - A - A: Inkling

? - E - ? - A - A - A: Chrom

A - A - A - A - A - A: Pikachu

? - A - A - A - A - A: Olimar

? - A - A - A - A - A: Lucina

A - A - A - A - A - A: Marth

? - B - B - A - A - A: Peach / Daisy

? - B - B - B - B - A: Lucario

? - D - D - B - A - A: Yoshi

A - A - A - A - B - A: Mewtwo

? - A - A - A - B - B: Roy

B - B - B - B - B - B: Link

? - A - A - B - B - B: Young Link

? - A - A - A - B - B: Richter / Simon

? - A - A - B - B - B: Shulk

B - A - A - B - B - B: Ike

A - A - A - B - B - B: Cloud

C - ? - C - C - B - B: Mega Man

? - B - B - C - B - B: Toon Link

? - ? - ? - A - B - B: Palutena

C - C - C - B - B - B: Pit / Dark Pit

C - B - B - B - B - B: Fox

A - B - B - B - B - B: PKMN Trainer

B - B - B - B - B - B: DK

A - B - B - B - B - B: Snake

? - C - C - C - B - B: Lucas

B - B - B - B - B - B: Ness

C - E - E - C - B - B: Samus / Dark Samus

C - D - D - B - B - B: Bowser

? - A - A - A - B - B: Ken

B - A - A - A - B - B: Ryu

A - A - A - B - C - B: Bayonetta

? - B - B - C - B - B: ROB

? - B - B - B - B - B: Isabelle

B - B - B - B - B - B: Villager

? - ? - ? - C - C - B: Mii Swordfighter

? - B - B - B - B - B: Zero Suit Samus

? - B - B - B - B - B: Meta Knight

? - A - A - B - C - B: Diddy

? - B - B - B - B - B: Pichu

? - C - C - A - B - B: Wario

? - A - A - B - B - B: K Rool

? - C - C - B - B - C: Luigi

? - D - D - B - B - C: Dr. Mario

A - B - B - C - C - C: Mario

? - B - B - C - B - C: Wolf

? - C - C - C - C - C: Incineroar

C - B - B - C - C - C: Ganondorf

? - C - C - B - C - C: Falco

? - ? - B - B - C - C: Mii Gunner

C - ? - D - E - C - C: Pac-Man

? - ? - ? - C - B - C: Wii Fit Trainer

? - B - B - B - C - C: C. Falcon

B - B - B - C - B - C: Corrin

C - A - A - C - C - C: Zelda

? - C - B - ? - B - C: Robin

? - B - B - B - B - C: Rosalina

? - C - C - B - C - C: Greninja

C - C - B - C - C - C: Ice Climbers

A - A - A - A - C - C: Sheik

? - C - C - C - C - C: Jigglypuff

C - E - E - E - C - C: Ridley

? - ? - ? - C - E - C: Mii Brawler

? - ? - B - C - C - C: Mr. G&W

? - E - E - C - E - C: Dedede

? - E - D - C - E - C: Bowser Jr.

? - ? - ? - ? - B - C: Duck Hunt

B - D - D - E - E - E: Kirby

C - D - ? - E - E - E: Little Mac

A - A - A - B - B - ?: Sonic
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/18/18 12:28:05 PM
#459:


Is Incineroar down because bad recovery? I've been trying to main him and he is so much fun, but boy you can get ko'd from low if you go off the edge too far.
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Alpha218
12/18/18 12:35:39 PM
#460:


He also has the lowest run speed in the game, and a lot of his power comes from his command grab. Like Little Mac its almost pointless to mess around off stage but at least Mac has ground speed to make up for it. Chrom would be the same way if his recovery couldnt kill you at 0% because it traps everyone in it if they get hit.
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Slaya4
12/18/18 12:57:10 PM
#461:


voldothegr8 posted...

Ah cool. Nice to know we are on the same page. I forgot, Palutena is a B tier too. I agree for the most part with everybody else.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/18/18 2:34:41 PM
#462:


Oh boy, a level 9 Dedede just 3-0'd my Incineroar. That spacing for a heavy.
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The_Scarecrow
12/18/18 4:16:45 PM
#464:


There so many FE players last 1.5 million GSP and they all prefer two stock omega stage matches. This is annoying.
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Dragonblade01
12/18/18 6:35:15 PM
#465:


For those that have a pro controller, are the analog sticks a lot better than the joy con's? I've heard they degrade kinda fast.
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Phantom_Nook
12/18/18 7:01:40 PM
#466:


Yeah, my joycons are already having problems, and I got my Switch this March.

I'd send them to get fixed, but Nintendo also wants me to send in my Switch to see if the problem is the system. >.>
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Dragonblade01
12/18/18 7:23:00 PM
#467:


Maybe I can get away with getting the Hori gamepad. Dunno if I really want to spend all that much on the pro controller.
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MJOLNRVII
12/19/18 12:34:32 AM
#469:


Same, I lost like 700K GSP the other day with Palutena and have no idea what happened.
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Delirious_Beard
12/19/18 12:38:54 AM
#470:


tfw you PK freeze someone offstage and they go flying into the blastzone
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Alpha218
12/19/18 12:53:07 AM
#471:


Yes, it does that now.

Also the whole GSP system is bullshit. I keep losing more than I'm winning for no reason.
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wackyteen
12/19/18 8:40:02 AM
#472:


What even is GSP?
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Alpha218
12/19/18 8:47:20 AM
#473:


A joke of a ranking system. It was interesting in Smash 4 I guess even though it did nothing. In this game its annoying seeing it go down so much when you lose.

GSP basically represents the number of people your overall score or rating is better than.
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Dragonblade01
12/19/18 9:26:31 AM
#474:


I'm kinda surprised Nintendo doesn't at least have the full list of training options during the downtime between quickplays. I'm also surprised that background matchmaking isn't paused when you're in a menu. I was surprised again when my training room settings were reset after each match.

Lot of room for quality of life improvements here.
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voldothegr8
12/19/18 10:37:29 AM
#475:


wackyteen posted...
What even is GSP?

Global Smash Power, basically the same type of rating system as Mario Kart but with bigger numbers.
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CyricZ
12/19/18 11:25:25 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/19/18 11:28:24 AM
#477:


I tried 1 online match and lag basically killed me. Booourns.

Plus my partner (it put me into 2 on 2) was having issues. He went 0-3, I went 3-2.
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P4wn4g3
12/19/18 11:37:07 AM
#478:


I never got to marx in super star, and I don't recognize him from Allies. Sakurai seems to assume everyone got 100% on super star regularly.
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CyricZ
12/19/18 11:39:41 AM
#479:


P4wn4g3 posted...
I never got to marx in super star, and I don't recognize him from Allies. Sakurai seems to assume everyone got 100% on super star regularly.

Did you beat Ocarina of Time? Castlevania Rondo of Blood?
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P4wn4g3
12/19/18 11:53:47 AM
#480:


CyricZ posted...
Did you beat Ocarina of Time?

This, yes. Marx is not in there.
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Calwings
12/19/18 1:28:17 PM
#482:


OWJdjQ6

Your reaction?
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P4wn4g3
12/19/18 1:32:35 PM
#483:


Calwings posted...
Your reaction?

Hm i guess Nintendo wants me to spend more time playing PC games
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prince_leo
12/19/18 1:46:26 PM
#484:


as of today I can't get into smash online. is it just me or anyone else?
it's been working fine before today but now I get an error code 2618-0513 and the message "NAT traversal process has failed"
I have NAT type B >__> but it's been fine before today
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wackyteen
12/19/18 2:29:45 PM
#485:


P4wn4g3 posted...
I never got to marx in super star, and I don't recognize him from Allies. Sakurai seems to assume everyone got 100% on super star regularly.

I don't remember getting 100% in Super Star Ultra and remember fighting Marx
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P4wn4g3
12/19/18 2:48:34 PM
#486:


wackyteen posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
I never got to marx in super star, and I don't recognize him from Allies. Sakurai seems to assume everyone got 100% on super star regularly.

I don't remember getting 100% in Super Star Ultra and remember fighting Marx

I just beat the Gameboy remix.
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Alpha218
12/19/18 3:17:05 PM
#488:


Cloud needs limit in order for his recovery to not suck. Which is fair.
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P4wn4g3
12/19/18 3:31:10 PM
#490:


I haven't played much as cloud yet, he really didn't click with me.
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_Lyonidias
12/19/18 3:31:36 PM
#491:


Finally bought a switch and smash
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The_Scarecrow
12/19/18 4:19:23 PM
#492:


Were reaching post limit. Is there going to be a part 2: electric boogaloo?
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Silver Bearings
12/19/18 4:32:01 PM
#493:


Another 500 topic today?!?
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P4wn4g3
12/19/18 4:34:31 PM
#495:


I suck too much rn to join a tourney and have fun
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/19/18 4:41:55 PM
#497:


Only people who dont suck are people who were already damn good with Smash 4
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P4wn4g3
12/19/18 4:44:12 PM
#498:


Godnorgosh posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
I suck too much rn to join a tourney and have fun


The game just came out. Truthfully, most of us suck right now.

I have 30+ characters I've never played as in any smash game or have played one time only in ultimate, the rest have changed considerably since brawl/melee and I'm not used to their movesets. Not to mention I only recognize like what 20 out of the huge number of stages? I know what a lot of the items do now at least. Not to rain on your parade or anything, I kinda just feel like if anything I'd want to do regular smash mode for a while.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/19/18 4:46:50 PM
#499:


It depends on your frame of reference too.

I can routinely beat level 9 CPU characters one on one in 3 stock matches. To many that might be seen as good, but I know competitive players and they annihilate me.
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PhazonReborn
12/19/18 4:47:07 PM
#500:


Poop
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