Board 8 > red13n ranks all 74 Smash Ultimate Characters

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red13n
12/03/18 9:03:25 PM
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Mostly in terms of how much I like them in Smash, because a pure character ranking would be different and inappropriate. Besides that, how much I like a characters factors into this as well.

How I'm mostly doing it, is if I were to play a random for fun pickup Smash game all day where I play the roster, its a ranking in how likely(Or, since the list will be revealed the other way, unlikely) I am to pick a character. Or something like that.

The better answer is to say they are ranked however the hell I feel like it, or something. Because having 3 of a character is definitely going to get some of them penalized. Thats just unnecessary at this point.

Someone check this list to make sure I didn't forget anybody because for whatever reason nowhere on the top of google has the roster listed in good, clickable, copy/paste-able form. So I had to basically make my own list. Also sorry Piranha Plant, you don't exist yet. If you are upset that I didn't include Piranha Plant, just assume I ranked him 75th and be upset about that or something. Also Pokemon Trainer is not a character. If you think hes a character that should be included, assume I ranked him 76th and you can be upset about that too.

Mario
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Dark Samus
Yoshi
Kirby
Fox
Pikachu
Luigi
Ness
Captain Falcon
Jigglypuff
Peach
Daisy
Bowser
Ice Climbers
Sheik
Zelda
Dr. Mario
Pichu
Falco
Marth
Lucina
Young Link
Ganondorf
Mewtwo
Roy
Chrom
Mr. Game & Watch
Meta Knight
Pit
Dark Pit
Zero Suit Samus
Wario
Snake
Ike
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Lucas
Sonic
King Dedede
Olimar
Lucario
R.O.B.
Toon Link
Wolf
Villager
Mega Man
Wii Fit Trainer
Rosalina & Luma
Little Mac
Greninja
Mii Fighter
Palutena
Pac-Man
Robin
Shulk
Bowser Jr.
Duck Hunt
Ryu
Ken
Cloud
Corrin
Bayonetta
Inkling
Ridley
Simon
Richter
King K. Rool
Isabelle
Incineroar

And no, I havent actually made the list. I'm basically just going to go down the list, figure out who I dislike in Smash the most and they become the next ranking. Easy stuff, I think I can do it fast.
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pjbasis
12/03/18 9:05:54 PM
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red13n
12/03/18 9:07:35 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Were you the duck hunt main


That is Ermine.
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NowItsAngeTime
12/03/18 9:08:44 PM
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Did you get the leaked version of Smash Ultimate? Or did you play it at one of the public demos?
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red13n
12/03/18 9:10:48 PM
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#74: Mii Fighter

What? There are 3 of these you say, just like the Pokemon? Why didn't I split them? The answer is simple, they all suck. No one should play these. Mii's are dumb and represent the worst of Nintendo's culture they tried to force on us following the Wii's success. They are the representation of friend codes and bad online and limiting ugly facial features that I want absolutely nothing to do with. I think I may have put these in a game of Smash like, twice in many many games of Smash over the years. They arent characters, they aren't fun, and they are extra stupid. You can dress them up like characters you wish were in the game and then you realize they just look awful and you wasted your time. I debated not putting them last because there is a character in Smash I unequivocally dislike, but at the end of the day the entire idea of the Mii Fighter wasting a character(And in a way, 3 of them) slot to be more repulsive than anything that could possibly be in the game.
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red13n
12/03/18 9:11:37 PM
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NowItsAngeTime posted...
Did you get the leaked version of Smash Ultimate? Or did you play it at one of the public demos?


I havent played it yet.

This ranking is entirely based on preconceived notions of the characters Ultimate forms.
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red13n
12/03/18 9:12:08 PM
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Basically, I'm pretty hyped and this is a good way to pass the time.
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Panthera
12/03/18 9:13:29 PM
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How dare you not rank Mii Swordfighter #1, he is the best most brilliantly fleshed out character in fictional history with the greatest moveset in any video game ever
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Paratroopa1
12/03/18 9:17:19 PM
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correct last place imo, miis just don't really add very much to this game

I get why they're there but they just do nothing for me
Shonen_Bat
12/03/18 9:19:48 PM
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Tag.

Good last place.
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12/03/18 9:21:57 PM
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Tag

Although I'm surprised no one is busting you for talking about character slots.
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Zigzagoon
12/03/18 9:22:31 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Were you the duck hunt main

im dog
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pjbasis
12/03/18 9:25:32 PM
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red13n posted...
pjbasis posted...
Were you the duck hunt main


That is Ermine.


oh fuck I knew I was wrong

But also kinda right
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Waluigi1
12/03/18 9:25:45 PM
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T-t-t-t-tag!
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pjbasis
12/03/18 9:26:06 PM
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Zigzagoon posted...
pjbasis posted...
Were you the duck hunt main

im dog


oh yeah this is your alt, and red is a mafia guy

now it all makes sense
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red13n
12/03/18 9:37:43 PM
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#73: Wario

In all the time Wario has been in Smash, I think I've played him like twice. Both were when I was picking random. I would never willingly choose Wario, I don't like Wario. In fact, I hate Wario, everything about Wario is awful. He is fat, ugly, mismatched color Mario with an identity of basically being repulsive. There isn't anything here for me to like and I am probably part of that market that keeps Nintendo from putting Waluigi into the game. He moves janky as all hell in game, his bike is annoying, its annoying watching him glow because hes literally going to attempt to fart his way to victory. To put it simply, he is a character with no appeal to me and narrowly dodged a last place ranking simply because I dislike the character and not the mere idea of his existence as a whole.
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red13n
12/03/18 9:52:48 PM
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#72: Pac-Man

Its hard to believe a character as old as Pac-Man could carry no nostalgia value whatsoever, but Pac-Man simply has never translated well following his old 2D sprite. Hes now this weird thing with...arms, and...legs. Pac-Man shouldn't have arms and legs, but apparently he does now. Its so strange because all his moves try to pull you in with old nostalgia but it just doesn't translate to his current 3D incarnation. There just isnt a big draw for him, all he brings the game is a reminder that hes a character that has lost all relevance. I can't remember the last time I saw anyone casual pick Pac-Man in Smash. I'm certainly not going to be one to do it.
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MZero11
12/03/18 9:54:30 PM
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I forgot Pac-Man was in Smash
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12/03/18 9:56:20 PM
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Pac-Man is strangely irrelevant for being one of the most famous gaming icons of all time.
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Panthera
12/03/18 9:56:48 PM
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Pac Man is great just for the sheer nonsense he can do. Every time I see a video compilation of cool/weird Smash moments, it's a safe bet there will be some bizarre Pac-Man shenanigans with the hydrant and fruits and so on
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Naye745
12/03/18 9:58:10 PM
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right on cue, i already hate this list
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red13n
12/03/18 10:04:22 PM
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Naye745 posted...
right on cue, i already hate this list


Whoa Naye didn't know you were still around.

And yeah, list is definitely not going to be liked by everyone(Anyone).
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Johnbobb
12/03/18 10:07:15 PM
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Unpopular opinion: I like having Miis in the game. They don't really need 3 slots, but Miis have sort of been the mascots of Nintendo consoles for three generations now. Arguing that they "aren't characters" doesn't really make sense when we have Wii Fit Trainer and Mr. Game and Watch (both of which I love!). They're definitely iconic enough to deserve a slot.
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pjbasis
12/03/18 10:08:24 PM
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So far a bunch of characters I wouldn't want to play as either.
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Waluigi1
12/03/18 10:09:25 PM
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Aw I like Pac-man. Not as a character, but in the game. His moveset is just really fun imo.
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red13n
12/03/18 10:11:08 PM
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##71: Dark Pit

We have two "dark" characters in the game and somehow neither of them are "Dark Link". I haven't played the game Dark Pit is from, but from an outside view, he is...Pit. He doesn't look different enough, we've had plenty of recolor choices as characters, and this just...he doesn't even look or sound evil. He is Pit colored black. There is nothing more boring than Dark Pit being in the game. Of all the clones we've had or have, this has thus far been the worst.
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Waluigi1
12/03/18 10:13:37 PM
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red13n posted...
##71: Dark Pit

We have two "dark" characters in the game and somehow neither of them are "Dark Link". I haven't played the game Dark Pit is from, but from an outside view, he is...Pit. He doesn't look different enough, we've had plenty of recolor choices as characters, and this just...he doesn't even look or sound evil. He is Pit colored black. There is nothing more boring that Dark Pit being in the game. Of all the clones we've had or have, this has thus far been the worst.

Completely agreed on this one.
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Johnbobb
12/03/18 10:21:56 PM
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as much as I think clones (especially Dark Pit) are pretty dumb

I'll admit I saw Dark Samus and thought she'd be cool to play as, despite me almost never playing Samus
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JonThePenguin
12/03/18 10:26:37 PM
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Paratroopa1
12/03/18 10:30:42 PM
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Dark Pit is a cool character in KIU but he's totally unnecessary in smash
NowItsAngeTime
12/03/18 10:35:27 PM
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I still like Pac-man in random fun sets but I recognize I'm the minority and mosty like how his moveset is just a nostalgia Namco game shill fest
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Naye745
12/03/18 10:37:02 PM
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dark pit, 3 spots too high
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red13n
12/03/18 10:41:35 PM
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Naye745 posted...
dark pit, 3 spots too high


I debated this, yes.
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Johnbobb
12/03/18 10:43:48 PM
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What I'm most annoyed about is how we have Dark Pit AND Dark Samus but no Shadow the Hedgehog, who everyone knows is the best dark version of the protagonist
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Ashethan
12/03/18 10:43:59 PM
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Just wait until we get Pink Gold Peach!!
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red13n
12/03/18 10:57:21 PM
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#70: Roy

Did I say a character would get penalized for having 3 iterations? Because I totally had it slip from my mind at the time that this group now contains 4. Thats, a lot. Tell me you haven't wanted to throw your controller at some point when one of these guys gets a counter off successfully. Two swordsmen was plenty, now we have 4 of them. Unfortunately for Roy, I kind of like Chrom, so if I prefer Chrom to Roy and the amount of FE Swordsman is too many, so Roy is the automatic odd one out. Yeah, they'll probably play slightly different and that could change things, but for now, thats how it is. I don't really like Fire Emblem much as a series either, so Roy is certainly not my boy.
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Johnbobb
12/03/18 10:59:50 PM
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red13n posted...
Two swordsmen was plenty, now we have 4 of them

5 by my count
Marth, Roy, Ike, Lucina, Chrom

literally three of them are clones are Marth though. Seriously, how the fuck is there an echo that is based on a character that was already basically a clone
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red13n
12/03/18 11:03:58 PM
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Ike has differentiated far enough that he no longer feels like a clone, at least. So he falls outside the grouping.
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Johnbobb
12/03/18 11:09:15 PM
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red13n posted...
Ike has differentiated far enough that he no longer feels like a clone, at least. So he falls outside the grouping.

I mean I agree. Hell I semi-main Ike, despite not being a Fire Emblem fan. His counters are so much more satisfying to pull off than the other swordsmen
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Panthera
12/03/18 11:16:44 PM
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How the hell did Ike ever feel like a clone

He has one move in common with Marth
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Mewtwo59
12/03/18 11:19:15 PM
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Lucario has one move in common with Mewtwo but that never stopped people from saying they're the same.
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charmander6000
12/03/18 11:25:47 PM
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They were just upset that Mewtwo was cut...
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Panthera
12/03/18 11:27:55 PM
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Does that make Rosalina an Ice Climbers clone
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12/03/18 11:28:58 PM
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Panthera posted...
How the hell did Ike ever feel like a clone

He has one move in common with Marth

His b neutral is also similar, and his b-side to a degree.
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Panthera
12/03/18 11:36:12 PM
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How the hell did Ike ever feel like a clone

He has one move in common with Marth

His b neutral is also similar, and his b-side to a degree.


I mean I can at least see the argument for neutral B but side B? Not at all.

If this is the standard being used, Marth was a Link clone (so many moves involve swords!), Captain Falcon is a Mario clone (look at that up air!), Mewtwo a Samus clone (if it's good for Lucario...hell they have similar down airs too)...actually I like that, I'm going to start calling Lucario a Samus clone from now on and see if anyone knows what the hell I'm doing
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Grand Kirby
12/03/18 11:36:58 PM
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Pac Man is one of the best characters in Smash 4. I'm honestly upset.

Also, tourny-level Pac mains provide the best highlight clips ever.
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12/03/18 11:50:23 PM
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Panthera posted...

I mean I can at least see the argument for neutral B but side B? Not at all.

If this is the standard being used, Marth was a Link clone (so many moves involve swords!), Captain Falcon is a Mario clone (look at that up air!), Mewtwo a Samus clone (if it's good for Lucario...hell they have similar down airs too)...actually I like that, I'm going to start calling Lucario a Samus clone from now on and see if anyone knows what the hell I'm doing

Their side-Bs both move them forward in a horizontal line. It's obviously not a real cloned move, but it has some similarities. I'm comfortable saying Ike's not a clone, but he's got at least 1.5 cloned moves.
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ScareChan
12/03/18 11:51:41 PM
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tag

I demand smashing time with red
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MZero11
12/03/18 11:52:20 PM
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I'd call Jigglypuff a Kirby clone sooner than Ike a Marth clone
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NFUN
12/03/18 11:54:55 PM
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ike isnt a marth clone at all
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